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Posted by dominic c on Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:11 AM

It looks like you have a big project ahead of yourself. But I'm sorry if you get offended, but looking at your track, it's hard to believe that all your engines run perfectly well. It looks to me that your track is not completey done. What about the missing ties? You have incomplete branches to your switches.What happens after ballasting? It seems more work has to go into your trackwork. I'm in that group that thinks the track has to be completely done and engines are happy in every direction before I can concentrate on scenery

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:22 AM

dominic c

It looks like you have a big project ahead of yourself. But I'm sorry if you get offended, but looking at your track, it's hard to believe that all your engines run perfectly well. It looks to me that your track is not completey done. What about the missing ties? You have incomplete branches to your switches.What happens after ballasting? It seems more work has to go into your trackwork. I'm in that group that thinks the track has to be completely done and engines are happy in every direction before I can concentrate on scenery

Joe C

 

I saw nothing mentioned about poor running track. Track can bad but look good, I have the end of a curved bridge that look crooked, it was an optical illusion because of the way it was soldered and then the runng sides were filed.

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:53 AM

Joe I never get offeneded so no worries. The main line has been tested extensively for hours and hours and adjusted as needed. I've tested with very small steamers to fairly larger steamers, I had thought steamers would be the bearer of bad track but it was one specific deisel that really showed a couple bad switches that I had to fix. The missing ties will be trimmed down and slid under the rails and in place as I go. I  tend not to ballast for at least a year after track has been in place. Scenery is done from the back to front obviously and the area I'm in must be completed before the bridges can be left in place. Branch lines and industry spurs come last as I try to figure out where specifically the structures will go. For me this is a very large layout and because I'm not retired and work 4 and 4 I don't go full steam ahead like many folks as well in the summer months we ride motorcycles.

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:56 PM

I've been plugging along in one particular corner and outward from it as it is a deep corner and as we all know we need to build from back to front. Bridges are removed and my vision of a small town on the hill is perhaps starting to get some where.










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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:26 PM

Transformed the gorge using ground goop, poly fiber, and a bunch of sticks twigs and ground up leaves oh ya and ground foam.Can even see the river bottom again. I'll be fixing up the waterfalls real soon.




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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:52 AM

I've been working  on the little community in the corner, we all know we have to work back to front. I think I will need to make some fences and work on a better game plan for parking  area.

I also tried my hand at making a new water form for the waterfalls. Took a few  days but it did cure clear. I had made up 3 strips so I'll have  to peel off another strip and tuck it under the upper level strip and try my hand at some white dry brushing.

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Posted by wickman on Monday, November 10, 2014 2:14 PM

double post

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Posted by wickman on Friday, November 14, 2014 1:50 PM
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Posted by Mario1 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:23 PM

Hi Lynn

Just checked out the thread. WOW Man! Its coming along very nicely. You got a lot of real estate. Nice work keep the pics coming.

Mario

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Posted by bing&kathy on Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:31 PM

mobilman44

Hi,

May I offer a suggestion............

I have a window similar to the one in the pics.   I replaced the white mini blinds with light blue ones, and painted in the backdrop to blend into the window ledge, etc.

It proved to be a good thing to do, and you might want to consider it. 

 

Another suggestion is to paint the backdrop onto the blinds. Even done halfway decent most people won't notice it versus a chunk of missing background.

 

P.S. Hope you have given some thought as to how to replace/repair the furnace and water heater.My 2 Cents

God's Best & Happy Rails to You!

Bing  (RIPRR The Route of the Buzzards)

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, November 27, 2014 4:49 PM

Now no offence but some of you methods seem a bit odd but your outcome is spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:38 PM

Thanks everyone for the comments. I'll be doing an update on progress in next  couple of days.

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, November 30, 2014 4:15 PM
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Posted by wickman on Saturday, December 6, 2014 10:55 AM

I'm still working on  getting the bents  spacing figured out,  I've got it down to  2- 2.5 inches apart for the most part. May have to make somemore and perhaps shorten  a couple of the longest ones. I find this process is like structure positioning, you have to keep repositioning until it feels right.

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, December 6, 2014 10:58 AM

I also received a supply of ME bridge flex track in the mail. I think it may be time to finish up the bents and start on the stringers. 

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:45 PM
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Posted by wp8thsub on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:14 PM

wickman

I see an issue with the stringers, but it may be too late to correct.  It appears you cut the pieces for the inside of the curve the same length as those for the outside.  As a result, the joints for the inside stringers will not fall atop a bent like the outside ones will.  I didn't mention the need for the the two lengths in my advice on the other thread, so to the extent I may have sowed confusion on the point - my bad.  I was figuring the kit instructions and/or plans would have shown the joints.

Rob Spangler

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:44 PM

wp8thsub
 
wickman

 

 

I see an issue with the stringers, but it may be too late to correct.  It appears you cut the pieces for the inside of the curve the same length as those for the outside.  As a result, the joints for the inside stringers will not fall atop a bent like the outside ones will.  I didn't mention the need for the the two lengths in my advice on the other thread, so to the extent I may have sowed confusion on the point - my bad.  I was figuring the kit instructions and/or plans would have shown the joints.

 

Thanks Rob I see what you mean I think. So your saying when I centre the bents on the seams of the stringers the outside bent caps will line up as obviously I  will  be trying to line up every 2 inches which is the length of each stringer where as the outside bent will sit on a seam and the inside of the bent will not sit on the seam? Hopefully this doesn't cause any issues as long as the track rail is over the inside\outside rail and the bent caps line up ok. Unfortuneatly it was last  nite at 3am when I set the rail on the stringers permanently so no adjustments can be made.

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Posted by wp8thsub on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:44 AM

wickman
So your saying when I centre the bents on the seams of the stringers the outside bent caps will line up as obviously I  will  be trying to line up every 2 inches which is the length of each stringer where as the outside bent will sit on a seam and the inside of the bent will not sit on the seam? Hopefully this doesn't cause any issues as long as the track rail is over the inside\outside rail and the bent caps line up ok. Unfortuneatly it was last  nite at 3am when I set the rail on the stringers permanently so no adjustments can be made.

Yup that's it.  This is an aesthetic issue for an HO scale trestle more than a structural one.  Hopefully it will be hard to notice once you have everything installed.

Rob Spangler

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:49 PM

EmbarrassedIf its  just aesthetics issue I can handle that, Im real good  at hiding stuff. Embarrassed

Any advice once I go  to  install the bents? Perhaps start in the middle or end ?  Glue one bent checking  for straightness then the next and  the supports maybe?

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Posted by wp8thsub on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:10 PM

wickman
Any advice once I go  to  install the bents? Perhaps start in the middle or end ?  Glue one bent checking  for straightness then the next and  the supports maybe?

Assuming the kit instructions don't suggest a sequence, that sounds reasonable.  Pick a spot and work from there.

Rob Spangler

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:01 AM

Thanks Rob  kinda sounded good to  me as well and the instructions really don't say much.

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:37 PM

Trial fit for bent over river,  this won't work need  to  do some trimming.I hate math.

Rail was attched  to stringers using pliobond and weighted down, left  it for 48 hours.

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:39 PM

And the fun begins

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, December 12, 2014 3:25 AM

Lynn:

Thank you for sharing all of the trestle construction details. I have a similar project in my future. This has been very educational.

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

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Posted by wickman on Friday, December 12, 2014 4:40 AM

hon30critter

Lynn:

Thank you for sharing all of the trestle construction details. I have a similar project in my future. This has been very educational.

Dave

 

Your quite welcome Dave, its my pleasure and has also been very educational for myself.Big Smile

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, December 13, 2014 10:07 PM

Moving right along with  the trestle, four days off so I should be able to finish this off  I hope.

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:01 AM

Just have to finish  off supports.

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:49 AM

Very impressive!

Don't drop it when you turn it right side up!Smile, Wink & GrinClownLaughLaughLaugh

Dave

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:56 AM

hon30critter

Very impressive!

Don't drop it when you turn it right side up!Smile, Wink & GrinClownLaughLaughLaugh

Dave

 

Thanks Dave.  Funny thing when carried it upstairs to   work on  in our spare  room it darn near slipped right out of  my hands.  Its getting some weight to it. Should  be able to finish  it tomorrow depending whether I decide to put my  self through the torture of adding nbws or not.  Also need to decide if I'm putting cross  braces.

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