I've been looking at the Bowser freight Cars, and Loco's, and would like some input on a few things. I notice some say EXEC, and TRAD. TRAD means basically RTR ready to RUN, TRAD kit form. I must put in decoders, and sound board?
What would you have too do LOCO's, and what do these Terms mean??
#23753,or 23754 / no DCC, or Sound?
23791, or 2100 Cab Exec?
#691-3221 Dummy A single HDL 5600?
#691-3223 Powered A HDL 5600?
#691-3225 Dummy A DHL 5601?
Thanks for All your Help
Calvin.
BOWSER!!!!!!!!!!!
Calvin,
Some Bowser Engines you see,or kits I believe,when,Exec. is used,it relates to their ''Executive Line'' meaning,RTR and Detailed,,,Trad. I'm not sure of,,,but my guess would be that it means,,Formal,like in dress code,,,for it surely does not relate to Music,another definition of Trad,,,Havn't seen it used,,so I am only guessing................Just a suggestion,,,,,You should try your hand at using,''Google'',,there is a wealth of information out there,,,for free,on any subject..
Cheers,
Frank
I think that the OP's question is legitimate. No need to send him Googling. Bowser could do a better job of explaining its abbreviations.
EXEC does stand for their Executive Line which are highly detailed numbered cabs and rolling stock.
TRAD stands for their basic model, no extra details, mostly unnumbered, all without sound, all powered.
HDL stands for headlght, single headlight.
DHL stands for double headlight.
The Executive Line is equipped with a sound decoder.
The Traditional Line is DCC ready, but is not equipped with a decoder.
#23753 and 23754 are DCC Ready, no decoder, no sound, you need to install your own.
Rich
Alton Junction
Rich,
What do you have against,''Free'' information?? And some learning in the process?? I sure can see Why our country,is rated last in the world of Education in Math and Reading..
Well, the Bowser web site does have pictures of most all of their offerings.. think it even mentions what the difference between the Traditional Line and Executive line is.
Not all road names are photos of the model, but several of each type are, the others are renderings of the paint scheme.
--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
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Frank, the tendency of some members lately on the forums is to send those with questions Googling.
If someone already has the answer, why not just give it and make the OP's search a little easier?
If someone doesn't have the answer, ..........................well, that is another matter.
Providing the answer sure beats guessing.
rrinker Well, the Bowser web site does have pictures of most all of their offerings.. think it even mentions what the difference between the Traditional Line and Executive line is.
I did say it was a suggestion,,not a demand,to use it...without knowing how to get Bowser web site,,just type in the question,in Google search,,and low and behold,,,your on Bowser Web site,,,simple and ''Free''.
Nuff Said!!
Frank, let me ask you this question. If you knew the answer, would you still send him Googling?
Chances are, he was already on the Bowser web site, and couldn't find what he needed to know.
I don't think that Bowser's less than perfect web site indicates that the OP is lacking in math and reading skills, as your reply seemed to suggest.
Why make the forum a hostile environment?
I was not the one,,who brought up,,,using Google,,it was a suggestion,,,what has that got to do with being Hostile??
zstripe You should try your hand at using,''Google'',,there is a wealth of information out there
You should try your hand at using,''Google'',,there is a wealth of information out there
Nuff Said
richhotrain zstripe You should try your hand at using,''Google'',,there is a wealth of information out there Nuff Said Rich
You left out,''suggestion''..........
''Nuff Said''
Easy Fellas!
There are a lot of newbies around, so let us lend them a helping hand.
Over the years, us model railroaders have developed our own lingo, which may be a bit confusing to someone just starting out in the hobby.
To the OP:
Bowser has a line of products called "Executive Line". This line features DCC and sound and is the top range of their products. The "Traditional Line" ist RTR, but is not equipped with a DCC decoder or sound. "Dummy" engines have no motor in them.
Hope that helps a little.
how many full moons can we have in one month???
charlie
I received a tip from a friend not to buy the new Bowser RTR freight cars. He bought several, and when he tried to run them they derailed all over!
It turns out that the metal (metal!) wheels supplied with the RTR freight car models he bought are OUT OF ROUND, and so they were derailing even in places where he hadn't had any problems before.
If anyone is buying the new cars, be careful and immediately check the stock wheelsets for roundness.
Personally, I think they're overpriced for Athearn RTR detail and bad wheels. I'll stick with Accurail.
S&S
Modeling the Pennsy and loving it!
Schuylkill and SusquehannaI received a tip from a friend not to buy the new Bowser RTR freight cars. He bought several, and when he tried to run them they derailed all over
RTR means Ready to Repair. There are many manufactured products from a multitude of manufactures that need repair right out of the package.
OP.
Many of the Bowser traditional line locomotives need to be assembled with hand rails, horns, exhaust stacks and such. I know their Baldwin switchers need holes drilled into the shell for some parts.
Pete
I pray every day I break even, Cause I can really use the money!
I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
I recently picked up the Bowser H-30 covered hopper car shown below and it is the first r-t-r car which I have purchased which was truly ready-to-run. I changed-out the installed Kadee #5s for #58s and added a little weathering, but both of those changes were personal choices. The car has great detail, is solidly-built, and tracks well, too.
Wayne
Wayne,
I see you have the, '' Pickle Packer'' car coupled,to it..
I have a handful of Bowser RTR cars, though the ones I have are RTR versions of the old Stewart open hopper kits, which I have dozens of. The RTR ones I have were all fine out of the box, certainly not with oblong wheels.
I have several F units and a bunch of the Baldwin switchers - the Baldwins are highly detailed (well, they are made by a company more known for brass models, so it isn't hard to figure out) and run like fine watches. The F units run great, but need the addition of a dress up kit to get the grabs and lift rings.
Rich,Thanks to the fear mongering media many fear using Google or Bing for getting their own information.
Why?
They fear getting a virus or their computer hacked so,they come to expect others to do their simplest research.
None the less one should fully understand Google is their new BFF and contains a wealth of information and is simple to use.
One does need to keep his anti-virus protection up to date.
To answer you previous question and if I had the answer I would share it or better disqualify myself because I do not own a Bowser locomotive and know very little about their products.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
BRAKIE Rich,Thanks to the fear mongering media many fear using Google or Bing for getting their own information. Why? They fear getting a virus or their computer hacked so,they come to expect others to do their simplest research. None the less one should fully understand Google is their new BFF and contains a wealth of information and is simple to use. One does need to keep his anti-virus protection up to date.
Larry, I have no idea if that is the reason that the OP did not use Google to try and answer his questions.
My point was why should he, if someone on the forum can provide answers to his questions. I doubt that he was just being lazy. While the Bowser website does define terms like Executive Line and Traditional Line, it is not all that easy to find, and I was not able to find the definitions of HDL and DHL when I looked on the web site. I just happened to know what those acronyms represented from my overall familiarity with Bowser products.
I find it a bit troubling lately that the ready response to a lot of newbie's questions seems to be, why don't you just Google it. It depends upon the simplicity, or complexity, of the question.
richhotrain I find it a bit troubling lately that the ready response to a lot of newbie's questions seems to be, why don't you just Google it. It depends upon the simplicity, or complexity, of the question. Rich
Rich,I agree 100% but,some basic modeling questions and locomotive reviews can be found on you tube and that beats good,no its bad,no its good answers we see on this and other forums.
That's how I checked Bachamans Alco S4 sound and overall performance.
BTW.I'm not saying the OP is lazy its just some folk fear the internet search because of viruses.
BRAKIE BTW.I'm not saying the OP is lazy its just some folk fear the internet search because of viruses.
Let me be clear about something. Nobody said that the OP was being lazy.
When I mentioned the word "lazy" in my prior response, it was mentioned solely to say that I doubted that he was being lazy by not consulting Google for an answer to one or more of his questions.
The questions that Calvin asked were legitimate ones about the acronyms and abbreviations used by Bowser. Since these acronyms and abbreviations are not self-explanatory, it makes sense to turn to other members of the forum who are more familiar with Bowser and its products.
What I believe that by just telling someone to "just Google" it, without providing an answer, perpetuates the label that model railroaders are cliquiest, unfriendly, non-caring individuals, which I know isn't the truth.
On the forums that I'm a member of, if I don't know the answer to the question asked, I don't post. Since I have very little in the way of Bowser diesels, (1) I couldn't answer his question, so I didn't post.
What was it Mark Twain said about not saying anything?
Carey
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richhotrain BRAKIE BTW.I'm not saying the OP is lazy its just some folk fear the internet search because of viruses. Let me be clear about something. Nobody said that the OP was being lazy. When I mentioned the word "lazy" in my prior response, it was mentioned solely to say that I doubted that he was being lazy by not consulting Google for an answer to one or more of his questions. The questions that Calvin asked were legitimate ones about the acronyms and abbreviations used by Bowser. Since these acronyms and abbreviations are not self-explanatory, it makes sense to turn to other members of the forum who are more familiar with Bowser and its products. Rich
I'm with Rich, the reason the forum is here is to help fellow modelers, telling them to just "google it" is not the way it should be done.
If you can't help the OP, then let someone else help the OP.
There is no reason to respond at all, unless you feel the need to type. If that's the case, that's what the "diner" is for. (It helps your post count too, which seems to be the objective to some of the forums members)
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