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Any idea's on industry's for a small space? Pic's to show how small!

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Any idea's on industry's for a small space? Pic's to show how small!
Posted by Gary UK on Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:54 PM

Guy's, I could really use some help here on a small area of my layout that I need to finish.

Its been this way for about 4 years now as I cant fathom what to put here.

The GP60 is included as a reference point on the end of the small spur track.

The next nearest track is the lead to my yard behind the camera.

The other 2 tracks are main lines.

I already have a plastic pellet transfer and a concrete plant and background buildings in other area's of the layout.

I figure I could have a service road coming in from the lower right hand corner.

Im open to any idea's to fill this small space in the pictures!

 

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Posted by zstripe on Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:01 PM

Gary,

Small Fuel supplier,,( tank cars),,small seed & feed,,( box cars) small lumber yard,( flat cars&center beam cars)..What does the rest of the layout look like,,,farm, mountains,rural,city,etc..For some reason, the name eludes me,,must be a age thing,,but a siding that anyone can use, to unload box cars and such,you can have a little shack and a small dock with a ramp at one side........That name is going to bug me now,the rest of the nite..Laugh

Cheers,Drinks

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Posted by NorthWest on Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:09 PM

Frank, I think the word you are looking for is "Team Track"

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Posted by zstripe on Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:10 PM

Gary,

The name,I could not remember, is Team Track,,,My Mind is shot..LaughLaugh

Cheers,Drinks

Frank

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Posted by zstripe on Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:15 PM

NW,

Look's like My Brain woke up at the same time you posted that.Laugh

Cheers,Laugh

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:17 PM

Gary, don't think small, think BIG!

Use the length of the siding for the loading racks used to fill tank cars with specialty petroleum products, a few small pump houses and the plumbing used to connect the racks to the refinery.

Where's the refinery?  Virtual, in the aisleway.  You're standing in it.

(Idea from John Armstrong.)

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:47 PM

A scrapyard is appropriate for any era.  Just watch the born-on date of your junk automobiles.

This stockyard occupies a small space on my layout.

I used a background building kit for the Strumpet Brewery.

But, since it's actually on the aisle, I did the interior as a slice-of-life scene

It' directly above an edge-of-the-layout subway station.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by Gary UK on Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:02 PM

OK, this is good feedback! So what do you think of this-  http://www.modeljunction.info/estore/product_info.php?products_id=36924

I have a few idea's like Frank has mentioned but there's so many models available, anyone have any specific models that may fit from the likes of Cornerstone or AMB etc. Ive spent hours looking, believe me Bang Head Laugh

The following picture is the small yard leading from the right hand side of 3rd pic above. This will eventually be altered as Im not happy with the buildings but Im not to worried about it for the moment.

Last picture is my plastic pellet transfer directly behind me at the other end of the layout.

Ive also some Walthers background buildings like Lauston Shipping and the Comissionary building along the side wall also a Cement silo's from Walthers. Bear in mind this layout is only 9"x12" and Ive not much room to play with.

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Posted by Gary UK on Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:09 PM

MisterBeasley

A scrapyard is appropriate for any era.  Just watch the born-on date of your junk automobiles.

This stockyard occupies a small space on my layout.

I used a background building kit for the Strumpet Brewery.

 

Ah ha! That's that Arrow head ale kit from Walthers isn't it? They've just re released it again. Im thinking of getting for my back wall. Likeing your scrap yard too!

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Posted by zstripe on Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:32 PM

Gary,

Cornerstone Series,Walthers;;;Interstate Fuel&Oil,933-3006,McGraw Oil Co.,9332913,,Valley Growers Assc.933-3096,Farmers Coop.Grain Elevator 933-3036,,Spooner Sash&Door,933-2847...They will all fit in the area you have,with only one track,siding......Have Fun..

Cheers,Drinks

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Posted by Gary UK on Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:22 PM

Frank and all the above, thanks for getting my backside in gear with this!

Ive decided on Interstate Fuel & Oil. And whatdaya know, my local hobby store has it in stock!

Ive also found the Walthers oil loading tank car platform-

     http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281159365122?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

These two models will fit in well here with some small alterations!

So pleased Ive made a decision with this after all this time, just needed that spark and to think outside the box as it were!

 
 
 

 

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Posted by Doughless on Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:48 PM

1) Road salt yard and distributor.  Just a few small structures are needed.

2) Rock yard.  A local train brings a few cars of rock/gravel to this gathering place where it is piled according to size and then trucked to customers.  One small structure and a few piles of rocks.  Some front end loaders to push the rock around.  

Either would be small enough to blend right into the scene and not overpower it.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:27 PM

Gary UK
Ah ha! That's that Arrow head ale kit from Walthers isn't it?

Yes, indeed, it's Arrowhead Ale.  However, I chose the name Strumpet Brewery because, well, nothing goes down like a Strumpet.

I also used Interstate Fuel.  I used the tanks, but not the Quonset hut,

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Posted by NittanyLion on Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:02 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't put an industry there.

I'd use it as a spot to set out bad order cars and use the real estate as a MOW site.  Old boxcar or two, a hi-rail truck, that sort of thing.  Maybe even go as far as an out of service depot or tower.

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Posted by jmbjmb on Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:11 PM

1.  Pulpwood yard or for more modern times, woodchip loader.  Lots of loads out for a relatively small spur.  For the pulpwood especially, the entire spur could be used for cars since the loader brought the wood the the rack rather than moving them under a loader.

2.  Chicken feed plant, esp in modern times can receive a lot of covered hoppers.

Both the above can easily be located in a rural area. 

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Posted by dehusman on Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:14 PM

Beverage distributor.  Inbound boxes of canned beer and soda,  inbound reefers of kegs of beer.

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Posted by gregc on Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:07 AM

you may find Lance Mindheim's One Turnout Layout interesting.   google it.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:05 PM

NittanyLion
Honestly, I wouldn't put an industry there.

I'd use it as a spot to set out bad order cars and use the real estate as a MOW site.  Old boxcar or two, a hi-rail truck, that sort of thing.  Maybe even go as far as an out of service depot or tower.

rip track, or MOW equipment storage. 

The stock yard idea wouldn't work in the same era as GP60s.

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Posted by Gary UK on Monday, September 30, 2013 3:44 AM

Well I went ahead and ordered a Walthers Interstate Fuel & Oil..............

and then cancelled it a few hours later Laugh

After some research I figured that it just wouldn't have worked in the narrow space so well and I was looking for a scene with a little more detail.

The type of scene I eventually envisaged is a scrap yard.

Scrap yards can be long without being broad right? Smile, Wink & Grin

Anyway, this is what I have in mind- http://www.rrmodelcraftsman.com/reviews/cm_review_walthers_salvage.php

I went ordered up a lot of the Walthers parts for this aswel a Kibri grab crane shown here-

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/405-11282

I think the Walthers conveyor will work well along side a gondola car http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3645

Im pretty sure this is the way to go now! I trawled through a lot of structure kits but I didn't want anything to big and high off the ground as it would detract to much from the trains moving behind. I think the the scrap yard is a nice balance, plus I can move things around to fit.

Guys, thanks very much for all your input, its been a great help and is always appreciated Thumbs Up

I will post back when Ive made some progress.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, October 4, 2013 10:53 PM

Gary UK:

Sorry I'm a bit late coming to this thread but I do have one suggestion that can provide a lot of interest regardless of the purpose of the siding. That is choose a small building suitable to the purpose of the siding - it can be anything from a small office to a transfer station to a pump house - and mount it so that the building is bisected by the fascia. In other words, cut it in half or thereabouts to expose the interior and then detail the interior. When standing in the aisle you will be able to see right inside the structure, and it will only take up half of the space of a full building.

I have seen this done (I think) in an article in MR and it was quite an interesting effect. If you don't go too big it won't overpower the track behind but it will be a focal point. It will also give you a neat detailing challenge. Maybe somebody can direct us to the article. My memory is the pits!

Just an idea! I am working on a similar project with a simple caboose track supply shed. It will provide a lot of modelling in a very small space.

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

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