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Magic Water
Posted by dcfixer on Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:54 PM

Although, I have a lot more to do on the scene, I wanted to stop and share some Magic Water work on my retirement layout, cause some angles and lighting will be gone once the trestles are in. The modeled water is all Magic Water.  No WS, Effects or any other clear medium.  I might use some WS Effects around rocks, here and there, for a more rough and higher look.  "Magic" is a good name, Dave. Smile

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, December 30, 2012 4:05 PM

Nice Water!

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Posted by Rastafarr on Monday, December 31, 2012 4:52 PM

Admirable. Your rock work is gorgeous as well.

Stu

Streamlined steam, oh, what a dream!!

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Posted by skray775 on Monday, December 31, 2012 10:34 PM

That looks great!  Is Magic Water a brand name?

Kelly

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Posted by dcfixer on Tuesday, January 1, 2013 12:44 PM

Thanks for kind words.  Magic Water is a two part resin product.  The inventor/owner is a real nice guy who seems to really care about his customers/users, and has responded quickly to my questions.

http://www.unrealdetails.com/

Happy New Year.

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Posted by Grampys Trains on Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:27 PM

DC, you have a very nice looking stream. I'm a Magic Water user, too. DJ.

jd3
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Posted by jd3 on Tuesday, January 1, 2013 8:13 PM

DCFixer:  Very nice!  How did you get such magnificant texture to the water surface?  Did you have to tease all that in or does the product shrink back a bit as it cures?

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Posted by dcfixer on Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:38 PM

Thanks, DJ, for the encouraging words.  Being a first time user, I found the level pours pretty straight forward.   I only had to experiment with tinting and clouding a little.  The surface effects and working with the  MW in the last few hours of curing required more experimentation and practice.  I just hope the falls go as well.  I'm doing my homework, but got any choice leads or tips on that subject? Anyone?

JD3: Thank you.  After the level pours were fully cured, I mixed up a small amount in a cup and let it cure for about 12 hours.  That's at 70 degrees F and 70-80% humidity.  The cure time will vary with temp and humidity.  I then, sort of  "painted" it on at different depths with a craft stick.  I was checking it and moving it around about every 15 minutes for 3 or 4 hours.  It was settling out too much initially.  The harder the compound gets, the rougher and the more it will hold it's shape.  There comes a point, though, that further teasing/stirring starts to cloud it and bubbles get trapped for good.  Not to mention it gets real sticky.   Dipping the stick in alcohol kept the partially cured MW from clinging to the stick too much. Stirring/moving it slowly/gently helps minimize the bubbles.   I can't emphasize enough the importance of experimentation and practice with this.  The stuff dries hard, and I didn't like the idea of having to dig it out.  After some practice, the actual application to the scene went quite easily.  Great stuff, IMO.

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Posted by wsdimenna on Wednesday, January 2, 2013 10:52 PM

Use Magic Water also. II really like the stuff. Its odorless. important to me in a basement without windows.

The running water effect is achieved with clear caulk (comes out of tube white) mixed into the wet Magic Water. This is a bit tricky, as it tends to gob up so the excess is removed with toothpick.. The white at head of falls was done by dry brushing some irridesicent white after drying

here is experiment with using static grass and weathering powders

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Posted by dcfixer on Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:01 PM

Beautiful!  Is the caulk non-yellowing?  If it doesn't say "won't yellow" then I don't want to apply it in the wrong place.Surprise

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Posted by wsdimenna on Friday, January 4, 2013 1:18 PM

It was red devil brand. since its covered with resin from magic water I doubt it will yellow. That would require air.  That photo  is after two yrs

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Posted by fkrall on Friday, January 4, 2013 4:50 PM

Rastafarr

Admirable. Your rock work is gorgeous as well.

Stu

Agree; beautiful rock work.  Could you share how you did it?

Rick Krall

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Posted by dcfixer on Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:00 PM

Thanks, Rick.  The vast majority is just hand sculpted - both wet and try using Sculptamold.  Stand alone rocks and boulders were hand rolled out of the dried up left-overs of bigger batches.  A little Fix-All plaster sometimes.  Thick Fix-All cracks, and I take advantage of that in places. Fix-All is harder than Sculptamold and carves/sands differently. The big granite face was done with molds made from folded and slightly crinkled foil - copper or aluminum.   Thick or thin foils give a different texture.  The pour was a harder, air drying ceramic plaster that is common at hobby/craft stores. Then a lot of spot sanding and scrapping here and there on just about everything.  Finished with layered, watered down acrylic paints.  Sorry, not much special to share here.  It's a lot of tedious, repetitive motion...and patience.  It helps to enjoy the productivity and results at the smallest levels, even during experimentation and practice on little dioramas.

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Posted by dcfixer on Monday, January 7, 2013 11:37 AM

wsdimenna

It was red devil brand. since its covered with resin from magic water I doubt it will yellow. That would require air.  That photo  is after two yrs

Is the red devil you used clear silicone?

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