Hi im wondering where to find a nice layout for a 10x10 room? I have 3 full walls.
Welcome to the forums.
A bit more information would be helpful.
Do you want a switching layout, continuous running (possible on a shelf with some creativity)?
What era?
Where will your railroad be? East, West, city, rural, mountains?
Are there any special industries you want to model?
Are there any other obsticles in your room that you will have to work around?
If you are a subscriber you can check out the track plan database. Long designs can often be bent around corners to make them fit in a shorter space.
Sorry for all the questions, but answering them will help the folks that are good at such planning give you a better answer.
Good luck,
Richard
I stuffed this in a 9.5 x 9.5 shed.
It had point to point as well as continious running. I have to keep the shed it is in usable as a workshop so I deisgned about a 5' section that can lift out and be stored on a shelf.
Your layout is going ot largely depend on how usable the room really is. Can you draw out a floor plan of the room letting us know where things like closets, doors and windows are located? this will better help us figure out what can and cannot happen.
Massey
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A little more information about your room might help. I used to have a medium-grade drawing program (doesn't work with my new computer) and I drew up a room plan to help me juggle ideas.
JayR Hi im wondering where to find a nice layout for a 10x10 room? I have 3 full walls.
You are sure reluctant to give much info.
Look below.
http://www.thortrains.net/poorhox.html
Rich
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Hi There and sorry for the lack of info . I have a 10x10 air conditioned room in my garage that i would like to use as my train room it has no windows or closets .I think a U shape layout would work nicely. My era is 50 60s in West Virginia coal mines .let me know if there is anything else im missing .Im pretty new to MRR so any ideas will be appreciated.
What scale are you planing on, N scale 10x10 ft room would great HO would be good anything larger would not be so good
Im using HO
Take a look at the link I provided. Figure out, what is the maximum size of the layout that will allow getting to different parts of the layout when it is finished and operational. Yes, I know, some layouts are never really finished.
Figure what you need for overhead lighting and make sure that is finished before starting the layout.
Pictures here can help also.
Jay.
Recieved your PM. As you can see there are a lot of questions to be answered before the good layout planners here can help you. Keep following their comments and answering their questions and I'm sure you will find something to your liking.
Sounds like a perfect place for the popular HOG Heart Of Georgia layout. Then modify it to your liking.
Michael
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The LION thinks that you start with the table.
Simplest would be a shelf layout on three sides of the room. Make the shelves 16" wide.
Nest step up would be to make a "blob" in the middle of the room coming off of the middle shelf. If the edges (x2) are 16" and the isles (x2) are 24" you are left with a 48" wide blob in the middle of the room.
You do not need a full 24" isle at the very far end of the layout, the blob can be wider there, and could easily conceal a helix as big as you like.
Now you can have two levels along the three walls .Lets call the back wall North. On the west wall you can have a terminal at the 38" level, a staging yard at the 50" level and another scene at the 58" level.On the East wall, you can have a terminal or an industry or something at the 40" level and the 53" level and another staging area the the 36" level. As I see it the main blob is only on the lower level, which gives you more vertical for your scenery.
Once you know what your table can look like you can discover what sort of layout you might build on it.
The LION just slaps down the tracks and then builds scenery around them rather than making a detailed plan and trying to follow it. Put your wiring in before you start building the track work. Put in 14 ga feeders for track poser (each leg and the blob can be their own cab--or go with DCC). LION would put in 25 pair cables that terminate at telco punch-town panels on each leg ant at the control panel, this way wiring the rest of the layout is a simple matter of connecting to these cables, and you do not have to run wires around scenery that is already built.
The LION has a nice method of installing switch machines on the rear fascia of the tables so that they do not stick down into the staging tracks below.
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BroadwayLion The LION just slaps down the tracks and then builds scenery around them rather than making a detailed plan and trying to follow it.
The LION just slaps down the tracks and then builds scenery around them rather than making a detailed plan and trying to follow it.
Does the lion have at least a vague idea about whether he wants to model a narrow gauge railroad in Maine, a subway in New York, intermodal trains coming out of the ports of Los Angeles/Long Beach i 2010, or a granger in the midwest in the 1940s before he starts slapping down tracks?
Smile, Stein
steinjr Does the lion have at least a vague idea about whether he wants to model a narrow gauge railroad in Maine, a subway in New York, intermodal trains coming out of the ports of Los Angeles/Long Beach i 2010, or a granger in the midwest in the 1940s before he starts slapping down tracks? Smile, Stein
Well even that evolved as the layout grew. I had planned it as a commuter railroad, with Penn Station right in the middle of the room with a four track main line on the middle shelf. The lower shelf was supposed to be for staging yards, and the upper shelf for a branch line.
THEN Life-Like came out with inexpensive models of New York City Subway cars and I shifted the whole layout into a subway operation. I recently pulled out all of Penn Station and the lower level staging yards.
Now 34th Street / 7th Avenue is where Penn Station was, and 14th Street and Chambers Street are where the staging tracks were. A new Penn Station is being built under the Prospect Park station, but this will be a static display not connected to the railroad. It will showcase my older passenger cars and locomotives. They will be lit, but the tracks will not go anywhere.
So even vague ideas are fungible in the end.
JayR Hi There and sorry for the lack of info . I have a 10x10 air conditioned room in my garage that i would like to use as my train room it has no windows or closets .I think a U shape layout would work nicely. My era is 50 60s in West Virginia coal mines .let me know if there is anything else im missing .Im pretty new to MRR so any ideas will be appreciated.
For possible inspiration, have a look at these track plans from the Appalachian Model Railroading website:
10x11 foot "Rend Branch" : http://appalachianrailroadmodeling.com/tp_rend.html
10x12 foot "Dixiana Branch": http://appalachianrailroadmodeling.com/tp_dixiana.html
11x14 foot "Dorchester Branch": http://appalachianrailroadmodeling.com/tp_intdorchesterbranch.html
Not so much to copy any specfic plan, but to get some ideas of possible ways to fit a H0 scale Applachian mining theme point to point layout into a bedroom sized area.
Does this mean that everything that moves is underneath the "street" on your layout and all you can see is the street and the city above the subway?
Bear "It's all about having fun."
bearman Does this mean that everything that moves is underneath the "street" on your layout and all you can see is the street and the city above the subway?
I assume you are talking about Brother Elias' layout (the guy who speaks of himself in the third person)?
Click on the link in his signature to see his layout. His subway is partially underground (but viewable from the aisle side), partly elevated and partly at ground level.
Some of it is already in subway tunnels. All of the work I am doing now will be in the tunnels. 14th Street and Chambers street are on the lower level along the walls, just 12" above them is the middle level which is both "open cut" and on an embankment, with one brief stretch of "cut and cover" (which is the building technique of most of NYCT's underground system. The lower level will have no out of tunnel scenery, but will have room for some of the mezzanine work. The tunnels themselves are defined by tunnel walls complete with the bench-wall, but without the stanchions that would be found in the subway tunnels. I'll suggest them in some areas, but other areas will be "cut away" so that I can rescue any train that dies in there.
42nd Street and 34th Street will have the street and city modeled above them. 34th Street will be done with more care and with more building kits. 42nd Street is so far off of the floor, that a visitor would only see the street level if he were standing on a stool. These buildings will be more photographically represented and will be well lit. At times square, the buildings are not really seen, but only the lighted billboards that are built on them. I have photographs of these billboards and will mount them on cardboard buildings, light them up from behind and call it a day.
At the Coney Island station, I will actually build the city street under the station. The terminal is elevated with two tracks sticking out over the street, just hanging there in mid-air. I'll model some parts of the terminal building under the tracks, put in one lane of Stillwell Avenue. I will spend most of my attention there on the train shed.
Here is a snap shot of a work in progress. Since it is supposed to be in the tunnel, I just propped a board on top of it for the photograph. This is on the helix that I am building. Since I want to be able to reach in there to rescue a stalled train, I figured I may as well decorate it. Even with the tunnel lights in there, it will be a dark place, and so great detail is not required. I will have to put in the signals since those lights will be needed to make it look just right. I will also have to paint the rail webs.
You assume correctly stein. And I can't seem to get to the LION's layout link. I did get to his home page, and it took me a few minutes to stop laughing when he mentioned the bldg code agencies.
bearman You assume correctly stein. And I can't seem to get to the LION's layout link. I did get to his home page, and it took me a few minutes to stop laughing when he mentioned the bldg code agencies.
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BroadwayLion bearman: You assume correctly stein. And I can't seem to get to the LION's layout link. I did get to his home page, and it took me a few minutes to stop laughing when he mentioned the bldg code agencies. FIREFOX! Need latest flash updates. Do not pull on the Leopard's tail: He does not like it and may find you tasty.
bearman: You assume correctly stein. And I can't seem to get to the LION's layout link. I did get to his home page, and it took me a few minutes to stop laughing when he mentioned the bldg code agencies.
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LION's Website works. Firefox is better than IE. Either way Flash Player needs to be up to date.
The Leopard (His name is Jerry) is a favored cousin of the LION. The LEOPARD has the largest tail of all cats. Not as fast as a cheetah, he is far more maneuverable since he uses his great tail as a counterweight. The tail also makes a nice scarf if the weather is cold.
Not everything runs on rails!
Around the room on shelves is one good approach, with a duck-under, lift-out or swing-gate to bridge the gap. One of the better around-the-room approaches to a coal hauling railroad in a mid-sized space is W. Allen McClelland's Muddlety Creek Branch in Model Railroad Planning 1996.
If you don't mind leaving access areas to reach the far corners for construction and occasional maintenance, it's also possible to build a "water wings" style layout like this one.
This HO layout happens to be oriented toward logging in a 10'8" X 8'10" space, but something similar could be adapted to coal hauling.
Radii can generally be broader in the around-the-room alternative, but that arrangement does add the complexity of how one enters the space.
Best of luck.
Byron
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Bearman is not disputing whether LION's website works. I am pointing out that I cannot find the link to the layout, only the homepage and I am running Google Chrome, and Flash updates automatically. But, I will doublecheck.
hi Byron
at the right lob of the layout, i assume that the passing siding not just under the overpass is horizontal, otherwise you could not use it for run around moves. The resulting grade to the track over the bridge at the front of the layout will have to be very steep, and this is an understatement. Not even 5 feet to climb 3 inches or so, beside the need of vertical easements you have to compensate for the curve. Where did i hear some-one talking about unrealistic steep grades.
Explain please where i am wrong, a warning might be needed at least.
Smile
Paul
bearman Bearman is not disputing whether LION's website works. I am pointing out that I cannot find the link to the layout, only the homepage and I am running Google Chrome, and Flash updates automatically. But, I will doublecheck.
Good. I sometimes worry about it since my HTML program uses fancy menu bars and stuff that not all browsers can read.
The track diagram is here. To find it you would click on "Tour of the LION" without selecting one of the drop down stations. The track diagram is not up to date as I have removed the lower work and am replacing it with different. New diagrams should be posted in about a month.
Paulus Jas at the right lob of the layout, i assume that the passing siding not just under the overpass is horizontal, otherwise you could not use it for run around moves.
at the right lob of the layout, i assume that the passing siding not just under the overpass is horizontal, otherwise you could not use it for run around moves.
The grade is spit between the two lines, so it's not as steep as if it were all on one or the other. Still, the grade remaining on the lower line would probably require some means to hold cars in place. This was fine for the owner.
I wasn't suggesting this as a perfect layout for the Original Poster, obviously it doesn't reflect his interests in coal mining. I was just noting the overall shape as an alternative, and of course it could be built without the overpass/underpass arrangement.
Since only smaller logging equipment goes down on that lower line, the clearance can also be a little less than what would be needed for full-sized passenger cars and double-stacks.