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Blue Foam question
Posted by afzski on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:24 PM

Hi All -- I'm finally getting my layout built - I've built a table with 3/8" and I'm going to glue 1/2" blue styrofoam on top of that -- My Question is (and I'm sure I already know the answer) do you take off the plastic covering before you glue it down or start painting the base color coating???

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:27 PM

Off.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:44 PM

Alex,

Just curious but do you have photos or plans of the layout you're building?  Is it a shelf type layout or table top?

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Posted by cowman on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:09 AM

Welcome to the forums.

Yes, remove the film.

I am presuming you  have already bought your foam, since you know it has the film on it.  However, if you haven't glued it on yet I have a suggestion.  Unless you are building primarily a yard or a very flat section of the country, I'd suggest using 2" foam as your base.  1/2" foam doesn't give you much for below grade scenic possabilities.  Also, I would suggest cheap laytex caulk for an adhesive for your foam to wood, foam to foam, cork to foam and track to cork.  Doesn't take much and works very well.  If you already have the 1/2" you can still use it for land forms, elevating a section of your track, foundations, stone walls, piles of dirt and a host of other things.

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:42 AM

Smile, Wink & Grin

 Yep you knew the answer.

 I all second the 2" foam. And a little tip. If you can find a damaged section at Home Depot (there's is pink) if you ask for a discount they will knock off 75%. My last section was $28.00, I got it for around $8.00.

 All so Welcome from me as well.

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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:19 PM

Ahhhh, the film. When I first got the pink foam, I didn't notice it had a film on it, and ended up gluing that sheet down without removing the film. Then on the next sheet, I was like, oh the film, what the heck, and of course peeled it off and then glued it down.

ooops. Embarrassed

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Posted by superbe on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:46 PM

Yes, with foam more is better,

In my case the thickest sheet available was 3/4 inch so I glued one on top of the other.

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Posted by galaxy on Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:38 AM

I second the peeling part AND the 2 inch part. I used 1 inch blue on  a 12 inch on center frame for my small HO layout. I built up using the WS one inch foam flexible riser ramps and one inch foam flexible  "pillars" to vary the height of the traks so I didn't have a  "prairie" look to it. But I would Use the 2 inch blue foam as a base next time!

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Posted by afzski on Friday, September 17, 2010 5:19 AM

Hi All

Thanks for the input - I kinda figured that was what I needed to do  Crying

For Antonio's question - I have a tabletop 5X9  thinking about the Verdent Valley  or the Granite Gorge and Northern layouts - In HO scale working with DCC (Digitrax Zephyr)

I hear the preference for pink 2" foam - but I think with having my 3/8" ply screwed down and the 1/2 blue glued down - am I committed now to this setup??? or should I go through the trial of pulling it all up and starting new???  Crying

as additional information - I plan to use the Tortise w/ Hare or Wabbit for the turnouts (taht will be a different posting for mounting advice)

Thanks to all

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Posted by afzski on Friday, September 17, 2010 5:35 AM

Hi All

Thanks for the input - I kinda figured that was what I needed to do  Crying

For Antonio's question - I have a tabletop 5X9  thinking about the Verdent Valley  or the Granite Gorge and Northern layouts - In HO scale working with DCC (Digitrax Zephyr)

I hear the preference for pink 2" foam - but I think with having my 3/8" ply screwed down and the 1/2 blue glued down - am I committed now to this setup??? or should I go through the trial of pulling it all up and starting new???  Crying

as additional information - I plan to use the Tortise w/ Hare or Wabbit for the turnouts (taht will be a different posting for mounting advice)

Thanks to all

Alex

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, September 17, 2010 7:34 AM

 Not a problem Alex, get the 2 inch foam and use caulk to glue it to what you all ready have! Just add some weight on top while the caulk sets up. That how we make mountains using the foam.

              Cuda Ken

 PS, don't forget about trying to find damage foam and getting the discount.

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Posted by L&M RR on Friday, September 17, 2010 9:47 AM

I second all what "cowman" has to say here.  Very sound advice!

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:16 AM

I also used the 2 inch foam but to secure it I used a relatively small amount of white glue and screwed it down with fender washers.  If I ever want to pull it up or change it (which I recently did) Just unscrew the washers and tug on the foam some. Comes right up.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:23 AM

I agree, just glue down a second layer of foam on top of what you have.

You can also just glue it down in the places where you know you need more vertical relief in your terrain.  Like where you want your tracks to go.  The original 1/2" layer would make a nice water feature with the rest of the terrain elevated 2" above it.

One great attribute you have is your willingness to rip out and redo if things don't work right.  In my opinion, that's an essential attitude in this hobby.

 

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