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Layout design: 9x9 u shaped

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Posted by steinjr on Friday, April 10, 2009 12:28 AM

rcato

What are the drawing programs used?

 

Quite a few different ones. Like with the choice of operating system for your computer, a lot comes down to what you like and what you feel comfortable with.

 For Windows, I like XtrakCad - a freeware program which can be downloaded from (http://www.xtrkcad.org/Wikka/HomePage)  - it does what I want, and the investment in time on how to use it well has been repaid in flexibility since I have used it on a large number of track plans - my current layout is on revision 43 of it's track plan, I think, and I have designed/drawn quite a few other track plans as well - probably more than 100 different or modified plans over the last couple of years.

 Some other people around here doesn't like XtrakCad's user interface, and swears by a program called AnyRail (http://www.anyrail.com/buy_en.html), which costs $55 (IMO, still not very much, compared with the total cost of this hobby).

 You had already tried the Atlas track planning program - it is free, but limited to using Atlas tracks -  and you didn't care for it.

 There are quite a few other programs as well, but I'll leave it to people familiar with those to give you recommendations on those.

 And of course - you can use pretty much any vector based drawing program (vector based - a line or a curve is an "object" which can be selected, adjusted, moved or deleted) to draw layout plans. It doesn't have to be a dedicated track planning program.

 Or draw on paper, or just layout out turnouts and pieces of flex track on the floor or on a temporary piece of benchwork made from scrap cardboard mounted on sawhorses or whatever.

 The relatively low tech solution of buying one turnout in every size (small, medium, large, curved), putting it on a xerox machine and making paper cutouts also work.

 Many different ways of visualizing and testing designs.

  Great book for learning about layout design (and about how and why real railroads do things in various ways) is John Armstrong's "Track planning for realistic operations". Can be picked up e.g from our hosts here (Kalmbach) or from Amazon.

 Smile,
 Stein

 

 

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Posted by GraniteRailroader on Friday, April 10, 2009 4:48 AM

 Touche! Or is that Two Shays? Big Smile

 

As if the current legislative systems weren't screwed up enough on their own Whistling

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Posted by gerhard_k on Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:55 PM
Stein said: The relatively low-tech solution of buying one turnout in every size (small, medium, large, curved), putting it on a xerox machine and making paper cutouts also work.

If you do this, just be very careful about lining up the paper track pieces so the junctions are truly straight across. It's real easy to cheat a little bit, even unintentionally, and introduce kinks which will let you fit in more track, but when you go to build, your plan won't fit - or even worse, if you build in the kinks to make it fit, your trains won't stay on the tracks.

I won't say "ask me how I know" because I haven't actually done this, but a friend once bought a partly-completed layout with this "feature", and had to completely scrap it.

- Gerhard

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Posted by dante on Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:54 PM

One of the features and benefits of a good software design program written specifically for model rr is that it won't allow you to connect with a "kink."  And it should have accurate switches, which I believe is the other principal benefit (if its catalog doesn't have accurate ones, construct your own in the program based on actual dimensions, frog angles and radii).  Again, if you have a Mac, I recommend Empire Express by Haddon.

Dante

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