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20 year old Atlas turnouts

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20 year old Atlas turnouts
Posted by fmartybee on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:53 PM

 I have a bunch of Atlas turnouts that I would like to use on my new layout.  They are code 100 and the track is code 83.  That is not my major problem though, since I can use those transition connectors and file the turnouts.  Before I do all that work, I need to know if the turnouts are compatible with dcc. I also have some reversing loops.  Do I have to purchase new turnouts or can the old ones be modified?

Thanks

Marty

 

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:28 PM

Are they brass or nickel-silver?  Brass is the old stuff, more gold in color, while NS is the current standard.  NS is generally better because it doesn't need to be cleaned as often.  There are those who still use brass track, but you can't find it any more in stores.  That should tell you something.

Other than the rail material, Atlas turnouts haven't changed much in 50 years.  I have a bunch of half-century-old brass turnouts from a previous layout.  I didn't use them, but I did take off the twin-coil switch machines and those are in use today.  They still connect to snap-switches on the same mounts.  Electrically, these old turnouts are the same as the ones you'd buy today.

But, take a look and see what kind of shape they're in.  If the rails are loose in the plastic web, or if there are worn spots or loose points, then these will likely give you trouble.  It may be a bit more expense now, but unless they're in pretty good shape, it will be a lot more trouble to replace them once they're glued in place and ballasted.

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:48 PM

Turnouts are the only piece of trackwork with moving parts, so if anything is ever going to give you trouble that will be it.

Old Atlas turnouts used rivets to fasten the point rails and those rivets were notorious for causing electrical loss due to wear and their looseness.

Save yourself a lot of aggravation and get new Atlas code 83 turnouts.  The difference in quality between the two is like night and day.

Over the past year I have had to go around and replace six or so old Atlas #6 code 100 turnouts on our HO scale club layout because they were wearing out.  I replaced them with Peco.

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Posted by fmartybee on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:21 PM

 Thanks for the info.  I was inclined to replace them since they have not been installed yet and I was not thrilled about spending time matching the code 83 to the code 100 by filing.

Marty

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Posted by fmartybee on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:28 PM

 Thank you for the prompt response.  They are all nickel silver.  They seem to be in pretty good shape, but sitting in a box for twenty years, who knows?  Since they have not been laid, glued, or ballasted, I might bite the bullet and go for new ones. I have limited time and prefer not to file.  I'm not sure how the electrical connections integrate with DCC.

 

Marty

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:57 PM

 The newer ones in Code 83 are definitely better made than the old ones. I had absolutely no issues using them with DCC, even without ever powering the frogs. The only 'issues' with cars bumping through the frogs were ALWAYS traced to out of gauge wheels. Sure there are others that look better, but the Atlas ones are relatively inexpensive and they do work, especially the #6 ones.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:00 PM

fmartybee
I need to know if the turnouts are compatible with dcc.

This whole thing of DCC incompatible turnouts is a mountain-out-of-a-mole-hill deal.  They will be fine.   I've got 40 year old Atlas turnouts that still work fine. As a prior poster noted if there is some issue it is probably due to metal wheels being out of gauge, not the turnout.

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Posted by lvanhen on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:07 AM

I've got 40+ year old Atlas C100 switches that still work fine - even the ugly switch machines!!  If you are concerned, how about using them for a staging area or other "hidden" trackage - or at least using them where they're easy to get at if they have to be changed!Smile

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Posted by TomDiehl on Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:34 PM

fmartybee

 Thank you for the prompt response.  They are all nickel silver.  They seem to be in pretty good shape, but sitting in a box for twenty years, who knows?  Since they have not been laid, glued, or ballasted, I might bite the bullet and go for new ones. I have limited time and prefer not to file.  I'm not sure how the electrical connections integrate with DCC.

 

Marty

Heck, if you're getting rid of them, let me know, I'll take them. My mainline is code 100, with spurs in code 83. I've used some older ones on my current layout (GASP) brass rail. I did make them easily accessable for cleaning.

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