wm3798 wrote:I didn't see this until just now, but I must again protest the handling of scale. 2x8 for HO, but N has to be cramped down to 13 x 52? What is the point of that?
Would an O scale plan then be allowed to work up to 36 x 12?
Available space is available space.
you've defeated the point of the exercise,
I didn't see this until just now, but I must again protest the handling of scale. 2x8 for HO, but N has to be cramped down to 13 x 52? What is the point of that? Would an O scale plan then be allowed to work up to 36 x 12?
Available space is available space. Choice of scale determines how you can use that space. If you force the available space to change proportionally with the scale used, you've defeated the point of the exercise, and forced N scale to into the same crowded box with HO.
If you're only interested in tangled webs, don't even throw a bone to N scalers.
Lee
Route of the Alpha Jets www.wmrywesternlines.net
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alco_fan wrote: vsmith wrote: Reread the submission, its HOn30 (HOn 2-1/2) not HOn3, HO on N track. I have an HOn30 microlayout that operates even smaller radius, try 4"... and thats with stock equipped with Kadee couplers! I stand corrected. If you can make seven inch radius work on a 4% grade with those tiny engines, it's quite a feat.
vsmith wrote: Reread the submission, its HOn30 (HOn 2-1/2) not HOn3, HO on N track. I have an HOn30 microlayout that operates even smaller radius, try 4"... and thats with stock equipped with Kadee couplers!
Reread the submission, its HOn30 (HOn 2-1/2) not HOn3, HO on N track. I have an HOn30 microlayout that operates even smaller radius, try 4"... and thats with stock equipped with Kadee couplers!
I stand corrected. If you can make seven inch radius work on a 4% grade with those tiny engines, it's quite a feat.
Its actually easy when using those tiny Roco freight cars as shown in the advertisment, they weight next to nothing, so they dont tax the engines very much. Its mostly just the engine pulling its own weight around.
BTW Mousewatch over, its saturday.
LOLOLOL! vssmith, there is always some humor that you always add to a post. I'm still laughing at the funny's you added today.
Here is a small history lesson on the small town I grew up in. Back in the 1850's Thomas Thaw, and another man who's last name was Roberts built a small rooming house just north, about 2 miles from the current location of Thawville on the IC tracks. There was just these 2 men who had built the rooming house, and then added a very small water tower. They did this in hopes of attracting people to settle a town there. Now as the story was told, the 2 men, Thaw & Roberts had a dispute over the what to name the town. So they abandon their current location of the future site, selling it to another person and parted company, never to speak to each other again. Two towns were later plotted out. Thawville and Roberts, Roberts is 7 miles south of Thawville on the IC line.
When I was a young boy my brother and I use to walk the tracks to the north of Thawville to go fishing about 2 miles total distance. There was a medium size foundation close to the tracks, and other small concrete walls and footings. Allot of the old timers always spoke of this place, but there was no documents to prove it was there. I tried for years to find some information on it, but never did.
ICRR1964
So did I
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chadw wrote:So when are the layouts going up? We don't need a repeat of "Mouse-watch"
Hey...dont diss the mouse....
Mouse watch.....11 hours, 35 minutes till Saturday
SpaceMouse wrote:How does tomorrow, Saturday sound?
Sounds good! I can't wait to see what everyone came up with.
alco_fan wrote: One other one I saw was maybe a joke. Seven inch radius in HOn3 does not seem practical. Probably wouldn't even work for N gauge. But I've never done HOn3 or N, so I can't say its impossible.
One other one I saw was maybe a joke. Seven inch radius in HOn3 does not seem practical. Probably wouldn't even work for N gauge. But I've never done HOn3 or N, so I can't say its impossible.
If your refering to my withheld submission posted above,
No Joke Sparky! 7 inch radius, I've done it.
Since I decided to drop my submission I didnt write a description to go with it so I didnt include the breakdown of engines and rolling stock, but it was designed to operate with my current HOn30 collection with consist of vintage 2-axle AHM Minitrain Locos and uber-short 2 axle Egger-bahn/Roco rolling stock! so it not only is possible, its actually been done!
Old AHM ad
My microlayout under construction...and Yes, I know I'm completley Nuts!
alco_fan wrote: Texas Zepher wrote:That was way too long a "design" time for a 2x8 in HO. I'm surprised everyone didn't do 5 or 10 entries - but I guess they would all be really similar.I was surprised that the one that had so much discussion on here had a curved main line. I have railfaned in the midwest and the tracks through these little towns are usually perefectly straight. I wonder if most of the entries will be curved. I can see that its easier to get more in the layout by curving the main line, but it just doesn't seem like the midwest. Yeah, there are a few places where the main curves through town, but most are straight. Even the real place that layout was about.
Texas Zepher wrote:That was way too long a "design" time for a 2x8 in HO. I'm surprised everyone didn't do 5 or 10 entries - but I guess they would all be really similar.
I was surprised that the one that had so much discussion on here had a curved main line. I have railfaned in the midwest and the tracks through these little towns are usually perefectly straight. I wonder if most of the entries will be curved. I can see that its easier to get more in the layout by curving the main line, but it just doesn't seem like the midwest. Yeah, there are a few places where the main curves through town, but most are straight. Even the real place that layout was about.
It all comes down to what aspect or aspects you chose to model. A model is a representation of some part of reality - you just pick what is most important to you and model that.
Thawville, version 01 (the one submitted was version 10) - mainline straight past the depot:
Here is a different design with a perfectly straight mainline - version 01 of Dalton, MN - not developed further and not submitted:
And here is version 02 of a layout where the mainline is mostly straight - Fergus Falls, MN (also submitted)
What was most important to me was to model single track mainline, typical smalltown industries (several of them on the same siding), and try to resist overloading the thing with trackage - fergus is borderline too much - even though prototypical.
If a straight mainline is the most important to you, then you just straighten the mainline - that makes the siding a little longer, and leaves less space for switching on the outside of the turnouts to the siding when you operate the layout as stand alone module.
Anyways - I am really looking forward to seeing what others have done with their 2x8 - whenever SpaceMouse gets a change to post the layouts he has received from various people.
Smile, Stein
Texas Zepher wrote:That was way too long a "design" time for a 2x8 in HO. I'm surprised everyone didn't do 5 or 10 entries - but I guess they would all be really similar. Only so much wiggle room.
Depends a bit, I guess - I designed three proposals (one in collaboration with ICRR1964) and submitted two of them (joint proposal and another one just by me) to Spacemouse.
I have also seen one submission from another forum regular I exchange emails with from time to time. Four proposals, four fairly different designs . Or rather - at least three fairly different designs - the one I didn't submit had quite a bit in common with one of the ones I did submit.
Guess it is time for vsmith to start the SpaceMouse watch again, eh ? Nothing like traditions. Just keep it clean, guys :-)
Dog, can't have Turkey without something to stuff it with:
I was going to enter this, but it really doesnt meet the intent of the contest, as its really just a full-on HOn30 layout that just happens to have an HO mainline running thru it.
The Old Dog had planned to enter this turkey;
However, at the last minute the Old Dawg realized that the plan has major access problems! It would be difficult to see the positions of the turnouts for the industries and to couple/uncouple the cars with the station at the front of the module.
But the Old Hound thinks it might have one "good" concept in this disaster.
Goal 05 - Provide a module that could represent different industries during different operation sessions by using generic industrial buildings.
That might be an interesting concept.
Have fun
chadw wrote: Texas Zepher wrote:Will it never end!Last Day! Only 86400 seconds 'til time's up!Edit: I forgot about time zones! Last day for east coasters.Also Bump
Texas Zepher wrote:Will it never end!
Last Day! Only 86400 seconds 'til time's up!
Edit: I forgot about time zones! Last day for east coasters.
Also Bump
LOL Already 6:10 am on the 20th over here in Norway.
Btw, Chad - those cars you had weathered in the Weekend Forum thread - very impressive!
chadw wrote:Only 5 days left!
wheeler wrote: Do they have to be in "XtrkCad"?I'm going crazy trying to figgure it out, and I'm just wasting time with that thing. I do want it legible. and all to see that my stuff all fits correctly in the required space if someone would actually chose to build it (my entry)
Do they have to be in "XtrkCad"?
I'm going crazy trying to figgure it out, and I'm just wasting time with that thing. I do want it legible. and all to see that my stuff all fits correctly in the required space if someone would actually chose to build it (my entry)
Nah, no demands about using any particular program, as far as I know. It just needs to be a picture or sketch that is readable. Could be handdrawn and scanned or photographed, if that is clear enough.
Grin, Stein
chadw wrote: Nudge...Only 5 days left!
Nudge...
Only 5 days left!
I don't care either way about the voting part, but I am really looking forward to seeing what designs people have come up with for a 2x8 small agricultural town.