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Posted by ngartshore350 on Sunday, September 23, 2007 3:45 PM

Hi John,

I've had plenty of used flexitrack from a previous layout that had to be dismantled for size reasons. Simply didn't have the room at the new place!

I use the old track pins every tenth sleeper, give or take a few and use a large aluminium square against the track to work out where it needs to be straightened. Then I just use a nail punch on the side of the pin to knock it over slightly. After a bit of practice you can generally knock it over in one hit!

Hey Mr Milkman, l used Selleys, Liquid Nails Acryllic for styrene to timber/lumber on a backdrop and it worked fine. As for our accent, last time I spoke to a freind of mine from Oz who moved to Texas I was told, "You have no idea how Australian you sound!" Guess it is a case of differing perceptions?!

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Nigel

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Hi Mr Milkman

Try. "No More Gaps" available at your local Bunnings or similar shop or warehouse.

By the way I am old fashioned and use track pins and Ballast with good old 50/50 water PVA.

On the basis most track once lay-ed will not be easy to recover in one piece, I have not yet found a way to straighten used flex track successfully

regards John

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Posted by Grubby on Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:52 AM

"BrisVegas" for the same reason red haired people are often nicknamed  "Bluey" or quietly spoken people "Rowdy" ?

Brisbane is as quiet as you can get without living in Toowoomba ;)

 

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Posted by selector on Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:42 PM
You "blokes" lend a nice flavour to the place....here on the forum, I mean. Smile [:)]  I studied Australia in Grade 9 at a boy's school I attended (only the one year), and our instructor was  Mr. Gibbs, an Australian.  He was clearly fond of his homeland, and I remember thinking he was right to be so.  After this thread, I see no reason to revise my understanding.  And that is fair dinkum.
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Posted by Alantrains on Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:18 PM

Hi all,

as another Brisbaneite (the local music papers and evening paper often call it Brisvegas and I'm not sure why, perhaps it is our laid back attitude to life) I agree with Mikelhh that we are usually a very easy-going lot. Why not, when you live in the sunshine state where our saying is 'Beautiful one day, perfect the next'.

I too appreciate knowing what latex caulk is know as here in Oz. I've even used it to lay my branch line with out knowing it.  I may never be able to pull it up as it sounds like I used way too much of the stuff.

For those that don't know, Brisbane is about half way down the east coast of Australia and is the gateway to the Gold Coast (1 hr drive to the south), Sunshine coast (1hr drive to the north), the great barrier reef further north and capital city of Queensland which has some of the greatest 3 foot 6 inch gauge trains in the world.

Alan Jones in Sunny Queensland (Oz)

 

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Posted by mikelhh on Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:49 PM

  Good question, Mr Milkman, and I too am grateful for the replies.

   As for Grubby - it strikes me as odd that one who supports all things Australian would claim to live in some joint called Brisvegas. Where's that??????

  We Queenslanders may be very parochial at times, but generally we're very easy-going.

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Posted by betamax on Friday, September 21, 2007 3:28 PM
 Mr Milkman wrote:

Hey all, I'm ready to lay my track, and I want it to be semi-permanant (ie maybe pull it up again in the future to re-use) I was thinking to tack it down with spikes, but I've been reading through that caulk topic and it sounds pretty cool. I'm just not sure what we call it in Australia (almost everything seems to have a different name here!) Are you US guys talking about what we call "gap filler"? Basically "A flexible Acrylic Sealant" you use a caulking gun with right? I'm also worried that the bond may be really strong, like liquid nails? and end up ripping off the ties?

 Anyways, thanks for reading my ramblings! And also for the advice!

 

 



The stuff I got is Mono brand Latex caulk. (Made by Tremco, an RPM company).

Basically, it's like silicone caulk that they sell for sealing gaps between things like the sink and the countertop, around the bathtub, that sort of application.

This stuff comes in a tube for your caulking gun, and it says LATEX on it. Not Acrylic or Silicone. Latex.

http://www.rona.ca/product/sealant_mono_p0330119_sealants-caulking_strippers-thinners-cleaners-sealants_paint_shop is about the only place I see something like it.

(Alternate link: http://tinyurl.com/2e866q )




You can pull up stuff that you've affixed with this product, easily. Takes a while to set too. So you have a chance to change things.
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Posted by selector on Friday, September 21, 2007 2:35 PM

Shawnee, if it were only true about Canadians....  Fact is, we, in some snooty groups, can be as pedantic, deprecating, and self-congratulatory as the worst in any culture.  Frankly, and I don't want for this to develop into anything more than this single personal observation, some of our Liberal Party of Canada membership have recently delighted in opportunities to try to make you Americans look bad for their own personal political aims.  I would have barfed had I been present...but it was bad enough to see it on Mother Corp., the good old CBC in the evening news. Angry [:(!]

Suffice it to say that we Canucks have no monopoly on civility or good breeding. Dead [xx(]  I guess, though, that it makes us no better, no worse, than any other group.  If the Liberals could only get that......

(deep breath....) let's get back to trains.

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Posted by shawnee on Friday, September 21, 2007 2:18 PM

Geez, I was going to make a seemingly harmless joke about latex caulk and vegemite, but I guess I'm much more culturally sensitive than that! Wink [;)] 

A couple of things I'll say about Oz...when I was there, I thought it was one of the most stunningly beautiful countries I've seen, and the people were warm, friendly and delightful. It's like a best mixture of English tradition and sensibility with American optimism in a Asian-style landscape. I think it's one of the nicest countries in the world.  And with among the best wine, an added bonus of course.

Now Canadians, they're like Americans with manners, right? 

Just kiddin'...Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by alfadawg01 on Friday, September 21, 2007 12:22 PM
"Lytex caulk, mate!"

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, September 21, 2007 9:55 AM

Not sure "noogie" (the term) is Australian anyway. I first heard it used by Bill Murray on Saturday Night Live 30 years ago when his character Todd would give "noogies" to Lisa Lupner (played by Gilda Radner).

BTW the same Todd and Lisa sketches also popularized the term "NOT"...as in "Wow Todd, you really are a genius...NOT!!!"

Smile [:)]

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Posted by marknewton on Friday, September 21, 2007 9:55 AM
 Grubby wrote:

Merchant banker indeed, another common expression in the western suburbs?


You tell me, I don't go to Wacol that often.

Give it a rest, grubby, you're on a hiding to nothing.
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Posted by reklein on Friday, September 21, 2007 9:45 AM
Hows the saying go?? Cultures separated by a common language???Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by tstage on Friday, September 21, 2007 9:02 AM
 John Busby wrote:

There are just to confuse things further some things in the Aus version of things that just don't work in print.

You have to hear the tone and see the face because that will tell you if its a greeting of old friends or fisty cuffs.

regards John

John,

I think that's fairly true for just about any language and, unfortunately, is one of the major limitations of the forum format.  Unless the other person knows for certain what you are implying (or not implying) by your "written" word, your words can be misconstrued or misunderstood by others from their original intention.  The emoticons do help some but don't necessarily make things fool-proof.  I'm the test of that. Smile [:)]

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Posted by Grubby on Friday, September 21, 2007 8:52 AM
 marknewton wrote:
 Grubby wrote:

I hardly think they need help from you Mark in their defence.


I'll defend whoever I see fit too, thanks. Tom and Crandell are alright by me - there was no need for you to spit the dummy. If you weren't so up yourself, you'd have taken the joke in the spirit it was intended.

At least you understand what Grubby means


Yeah, a grub is as a grub does.

Interesting concept, "up yourself", I couldn't think of anyone who that would apply to more than you. Merchant banker indeed, another common expression in the western suburbs?

 

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Posted by Grubby on Friday, September 21, 2007 8:45 AM

No offense taken or really intended initially.  The responses were interesting though..

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Posted by John Busby on Friday, September 21, 2007 8:44 AM

Hi tstage

There are just to confuse things further some things in the Aus version of things that just don't work in print.

You have to hear the tone and see the face because that will tell you if its a greeting of old friends or fisty cuffs.

We can be thought a Weird MobSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg] by other nationalities never mind what the Eastern staters  think of the West or vise verse.

regards John

 

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Posted by tstage on Friday, September 21, 2007 8:11 AM

Well, this has been an education.  I had to consult an online "urban" dictionary to find out what a "seppo" was - i.e. before I discovered that Grubby had already explained it a couple of posts later.


Grubby, believe it on not, I have never even seen any of the Crocodile Dundee movies.  My post/comment was only meant tongue-in-cheek and in no way as a belittlement of Aussies or their language.  I was merely using phonetics to "imply" the Aussie pronunciation.

Grubby, I'm very sorry if you found offense in what I said.  I really did not intend it to be that.  Again, it was only meant in good humor and in no disrespect to you.

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Posted by marknewton on Friday, September 21, 2007 7:42 AM
Crandell, the term "seppo" is derived from the rhyming slang name for Americans, and is largely obsolete usage. When discussing matters with Grubby, another useful piece of rhyming slang to keep in mind is "merchant banker"... Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by marknewton on Friday, September 21, 2007 7:36 AM
 Grubby wrote:

The "strine" emphasis you place on our language is largely a creation of Hollywood and sounds stupid even to us.  The US version of Australian accents is usually closer to an uneducated, somewhat effeminate englishman than anyone I hear on a daily basis.


You're joking, yeah? When Queenslanders speak, it sounds like a bayonet being shoved through corrugated iron... Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by marknewton on Friday, September 21, 2007 7:32 AM
 Grubby wrote:

I hardly think they need help from you Mark in their defence.


I'll defend whoever I see fit too, thanks. Tom and Crandell are alright by me - there was no need for you to spit the dummy. If you weren't so up yourself, you'd have taken the joke in the spirit it was intended.

At least you understand what Grubby means


Yeah, a grub is as a grub does.
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Posted by marknewton on Friday, September 21, 2007 7:25 AM
 Mr Milkman wrote:

...and the sheet styrene, I haven't actually looked yet, I was just thinking about it that night after reading heaps about it on the forums....I'll probably ask for more advice with the styrene in a few weeks...


No worries. I ask because I've got a couple of the young blokes from the club coming around on Sunday for a "styrene school". Hopefully I'll remember how to use the stuff!

Cheers,

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Posted by marknewton on Friday, September 21, 2007 7:19 AM
 selector wrote:

...Hold victim's head firmly in the crook of one's elbow and rub victim's scalp vigourously with the knuckles of the free hand.  Almost always done in good fun, except when done to humiliate someone who asks for it...


Yeah, I'd say it's long overdue.

Cheers,

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, September 21, 2007 7:17 AM

Back to the topic - I use something called Liquid Nails for Projects.  You mentioned "liquid nails," so it may be the same stuff.  There are several different formulas of the stuff for different jobs.

This stuff holds well.  I use Woodland Scenics foam roadbed on top of pink foam, and I use the same caulk for that.  When I've had to remove trackwork I've glued down, I can get the track off easily enough (just slide a knife under the track) but the roadbed generally goes in the trash if I have to pull that off.

My wife has one of those Martha Stuart books about "gracious living" or something.  I've found this book very helpful when laying track.  After gluing the track down, I put a short piece of 1x2 wood on top of the track, and then put the book on top of the lumber.  Nice and heavy.

In case you're not familiar with Martha Stuart in Australia, well, consider yourselves lucky.

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Posted by Grubby on Friday, September 21, 2007 7:01 AM
 selector wrote:

Well, taking your last statement as an example of how I disagree with you, I doubt my Kanadian heritage is any more limiting, or affording of enlightenment, than is your own.  For what it is worth, I have worked with Auzzie exchange officers in my business as a military psychologist, and recall that their accents were distinctive, and quite close to those our culturally impoverished neighbours to the south claim them to be.  I also don't recall them being as dismissive of the American as you appear to be.  Perhaps it is our proximity to our American neighbours that makes our perception of what we hear sufficiently disparate from yours, and our affection for them, too?

I do agree with you that sarcasm is often wasted, but not between us.  Wink [;)]

Cheers.

There is so much love for America right across the world, I am surprised you hadn't noticed.  Of course I am dismissive of your stereotypes, when I express similar standards in response you can feel your righteous indignation rising... all too easy really.  I will taunt you no further however, the subject related to "lay techs cork" something that seems to have been overlooked in the quest for scoring a cheap laugh.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by John Busby on Friday, September 21, 2007 5:18 AM

Hi Mr Milkman

Try. "No More Gaps" available at your local Bunnings or similar shop or warehouse.

By the way I am old fashioned and use track pins and Ballast with good old 50/50 water PVA.

On the basis most track once lay-ed will not be easy to recover in one piece, I have not yet found a way to straighten used flex track successfully

regards John

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Posted by selector on Friday, September 21, 2007 4:40 AM

Well, taking your last statement as an example of how I disagree with you, I doubt my Kanadian heritage is any more limiting, or affording of enlightenment, than is your own.  For what it is worth, I have worked with Auzzie exchange officers in my business as a military psychologist, and recall that their accents were distinctive, and quite close to those our culturally impoverished neighbours to the south claim them to be.  I also don't recall them being as dismissive of the American as you appear to be.  Perhaps it is our proximity to our American neighbours that makes our perception of what we hear sufficiently disparate from yours, and our affection for them, too?

I do agree with you that sarcasm is often wasted, but not between us.  Wink [;)]

Cheers.

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Posted by Grubby on Friday, September 21, 2007 4:21 AM

 marknewton wrote:
No wonder you go by the name Grubby. Crandell and Tom are some of the most consistently pleasant, polite and helpful contributors to this forum. To paraphrase a certain foxy moron from Fountain Lakes, where's your sense of "yumour"?

BTW, Crandell, what IS a noogie?

I hardly think they need help from you Mark in their defence.  At least you understand what Grubby means :D 

 

 

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Posted by Grubby on Friday, September 21, 2007 4:18 AM

Sarcasm is wasted over the internet obviously however, seppo = septic tank= yank = a very common Australian expression used to convey our feelings about Americans in general.  If you want to take the ****, at least learn to do it properly.

The "strine" emphasis you place on our language is largely a creation of Hollywood and sounds stupid even to us.  The US version of Australian accents is usually closer to an uneducated, somewhat effeminate englishman than anyone I hear on a daily basis. It is a simple enough stereotype based of your extremely narrow exposure to our culture versus our massive over-exposure to yours.  Further, we have never "thrown a shrimp on the barbie" and never will, those things are called prawns.

As for being clever, you concession is accepted and you are free to move on... you people bite so hard sometimes.  :D

The reason for the distinction is clearly you hail from Kanadia, and you should know better. 

 

 

 

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Posted by selector on Friday, September 21, 2007 3:32 AM

 Grubby wrote:
What is a noogie?  Some quaint expression used by English public schoolboys?  The poor seppo before you thinks Crocodile Dundee was Australian obviously, but I am unsure what your excuse is?

Clearly, Grubby, you are much more clever than I.  So, in a spirit of good will, kindly explain your quoted post to me in 20 mono-syllabic words; fewer if you can.

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