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Construction of the South Concho, Big Lake & Flint Hills RR

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Posted by S&G Rute of the Silver River on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:41 PM
One cheet I know of in Wet Worshington is to use sheets of moss as ground cover. It dosen't harm anything, its light and takes forever to rot, looks good in G scale, and most of all its plentyfull! Shoot thats what my lawn is made up of.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:08 AM
Looks great! Outstanding details. Will be looking for some more pictures. Jack
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:38 AM
wow this is gonna be sweet
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Posted by imrnjr on Monday, May 21, 2007 9:39 AM

Well -

 

Progress continues on the rail garden, although very slowly due to the continued blessing of rain to this normally dry landscape.  We have gotten over twice the average rainfall for the year so far.Smile [:)]

 

Anyway have done some rock work, and planted a few things.  We also have gotten the south tunnel portal and retaining wall almost completed.Big Smile [:D]

I'm going to move some dirt in today and place more rock.  We went up to my daughter's in-law's ranch on Mother's Day to visit and was able to gather a pick up load of red sandstone that has a lot of lichen and mosses that I'll try to set over the next few days.  Probably don't have enough and will need to slip back up there for some more in a week or two. 

Also have the inner loop underway with the climbing loops trestle about 80% done, but need to clean up the work site to place it and finish the trestle with connecting girts.  No pictures yet ...but soon.

 

More to come.......

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Posted by imrnjr on Monday, May 7, 2007 11:39 PM

About an hour after I took the pictures I posted yesterday the skys opened and rain fell (has continued through this afternoon)......and I have a large mud pit in the back yard.... I doubt any progress will be made till ... well with the forecast as reasonably accurateYeah!! [yeah]Shock [:O]... maybe Friday or Saturday... then there's Momma's day... hummmmmm... wonder if she would like a Bachmann Forney or  55 tonner????

 Mark

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Posted by S&G Rute of the Silver River on Monday, May 7, 2007 8:12 PM

Bravo! Bravo! Bet your glad you can finaly make it out of the tunnel (literly and figeritivly).

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, May 7, 2007 5:28 AM
Congrats. Having just reached the same milestone (Having trains running over the completed road), I know the feeling.  Looks great. Jack
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Posted by zakowitz on Monday, May 7, 2007 4:05 AM

Hey Howdy,

     Congrats on your benchmark! The storage shed looks awesome. I am looking forward to more photos from you.

                                     Take Care,

                                                  Zak

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Posted by imrnjr on Sunday, May 6, 2007 11:40 PM

Well, it's been almost a month since I added to the construction log..... shame on me! 

 

How ever I do have positive news... the tunnels are done... the outerloop is done and I ran trains today to the delight of my wife and and me.

It's been 6 plus months since I started the layout... I thought I was not ever gonna' hit today!

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Posted by imrnjr on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:54 AM

well... no we did not make the easter dead line  Black Eye [B)].... the CEO/CFO had several duplicate priorities for me as Chief yardman and pool boy, and as surmised from others the weather went in  the crapper..... 2 inches of snow and ice.  I told the CEO that most of the plantings made in the last 3 weeks were only temporarily burned back and if they didn't come back by September she should replace them in March next year..... (fat chance)Tongue [:P]

However, some progress is in the offing this week once "ye old Tax Man" is satisfied.  I do have tunnel #1 completed  and in place but not yet leveled, and tunnel #2 construction has begun thought somewhat slowly.Big Smile [:D]  And the train barn has seen the paint brush.  Whistling [:-^]

Now what I've got left to do is get the tunnels set, the roadbed finished, the water feature built, the dirt work done, the wiring finished and sensor installation done, the DCC blocking installed,  The DCC system installed, about some 40 linear feet of varying sizes of trestles built and installed, some of the landscaping done, the buildings and scenics set, and of course the track set......Dead [xx(]

so I guess I really do not know when the first @#$%&*&#$% train will make it all the way around the road way.Sigh [sigh]

On a more positive note all but one of the 4 Grandkids were here ove Easter and they loved the train.  So I guess I'll keep working to the goal.Cowboy [C):-)] by the way the tempuratur on frideay was mid to upper 70's, Saturday high of 38, sunday high of 48, Monday high 84....

Mark

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Posted by S&G Rute of the Silver River on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:19 PM
Hmmm. That's not gona be good for your naboring wilds.  Hope progress continues.  I think we swaped weather, up here in worshington the two days before Easter we had high sevendies and sunny.
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Posted by MTCarpenter on Sunday, April 8, 2007 7:25 AM
I'm down near Austin in Pflugerville.  Didn't get any snow, but got sleet, freezing rain, and a LOT of cold.  Stay warm and safe up there sawdust!
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Posted by sawdust on Saturday, April 7, 2007 11:25 PM

  If Easter is a deadline, it came to a screeching halt in Lubbock, Texas.  We have 3 to 4 inches of snow and 27 degrees.................. The mesquites and Mimosa's are budded out and Apricots are the size of quarters, I have never seen snow on Easter (I'm 74). My trains are in the barn.

Lubbock Model Railroad Assn. will be at the Arts Festival at Civic Center April 20,21 and 22, Big Lake is not that far...   

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Posted by MTCarpenter on Friday, April 6, 2007 12:34 PM
Are you/did you make the Easter deadline?
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Posted by John Busby on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:57 AM

Hi imrnjr

Dear confused you would seem to be making better progress than meBig Smile [:D]

Me for the sake of my sanity am sticking with analogue DC and manual steam and battery power at least I understand that

TJ don't forget to pick up the body armour from the QM store on the way home you might need itSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I must have a more understanding SWMBO she Tells me to get out and play with the trains should I be suspiciousBig Smile [:D]

regards John

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Posted by imrnjr on Monday, March 26, 2007 7:26 PM

Finally got started on the tunnels today, but since the curve is an increasing radius its requiriing multiple angles and lengths so its taking a while.  Pictures will follow soon as I get my camera recharged.

 I have a question for the forum on side clearance on the curves. 

 I have one place (about 6 inches in length) that the outside clearance (outside edge of outside rail) drops below 3.5" to 2.7125".  I don't currently plan to run heavy weights or modern length freights, but would like to be able to run some of the larger engines in 1:20, like a 3 truck shay, or the 1:22 LGB Unitah Mallet or even some of the 1:29 stuff like the Hudson or Pacifics. 

Where can I find a clearance list or some stats on the required clearances for those engines??  I've looked a couple of places, but haven't seen much.

 

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Posted by MTCarpenter on Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:45 PM

 imrnjr wrote:
It is spring in Texas... the mesquites are budding out.... And I have only once in 56 years seen a mesquite get caught by a late freeze.Cowboy [C):-)]

Yes, this is the 'week' of spring in Texas :)  I think it's run a bit long this year, so we might get two weeks before it's all said and done.

Absolutely love the layout so far.  Really inspiring.

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Posted by imrnjr on Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:51 PM

Allen / Ian -

thank you for the encouragement,  being new to the hobby I wonder if I'm doing it properly or "right".  Blush [:I]

It's been entirely to long since I was able to update the construction log, but I've had my priorities "modified" several times over the last 3 weeks.... Sometimes by my choice ...sometimes ‘cause I let my hummin'bird brain overload my mockingbird mouth......Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Laugh [(-D]

I finally got a couple of days to work on the railway and got some decent progress in.

Got the trainbarn painted, but still need to paint the door trim ....

 

laid out all the track on the mainline.... But still don't have the backordered tie strips for the flex rail yet so I've got a couple of gaps to fill in....Whistling [:-^]

 

 

And as luck would have it the chief architect (Me)  missed a couple of details (measurements) and over ordered some track.....so I'll be looking for expansion ideas this fall..... just can't add anything else till I get this part of the road done.   The CEO-CFO has given me a requirement to have trains running by Easter for the Grand Babies.

(However she does want me to play golf with her tomorrow morning......)Laugh [(-D]

 

Used my Train-Li railbender and it makes meet ups really easy... just have to watch how fast you arc it.  I had to back off a couple of bends ‘cause I got tooo aggressive....

 

It is spring in Texas... the mesquites are budding out.... And I have only once in 56 years seen a mesquite get caught by a late freeze.Cowboy [C):-)]

 

More to come.......Big Smile [:D]

 

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Posted by sawdust on Monday, March 19, 2007 8:51 PM
 Keep up the great first class construction, Iv'e got 2 years in mine.. I have 2 tunnels, one is about 9 feet and curved, only once a year with a small brush and long handle I brush it out.  My loco,s are Air Wire 900 and battery pack and with a small snow plow it pushes out leaves and debris.  My main problem is ground cover growing over the tracks.  Good luck from Lubbock, Texas..............Allen
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:10 PM

Tunnels in general are a worry and they always will be but i would rather have them and their associated problems than not have them, they really add to a layout.

Any help i can give you i will.

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Posted by S&G Rute of the Silver River on Monday, March 5, 2007 11:24 PM
First off, I am truly druling over that setup. I don't remember how long the tunnels are but cinder blocks for the walls and depending on if you are planning to plant things over the tunnel or use rocks to cover(I'd personaly use the rocks so I could put a wood roof on for accesability) just pull the rocks, lift the bords and walla a right of way.
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Posted by imrnjr on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:29 AM

Well. Its been about 2 weeks since my last update, and I really did not get a lot done between weather, honey do's, other business committments and playing a little golf till this past weekend.Big Smile [:D]

But I did get the train barn electrical sorted out,

The north side cribbing completed,

and about 10 yards of soil and a yard and bit of rock moved in.

Then I cut in or rather dug out the approximate lines for the tunnels.

I'm a little stuck on the construction of the tunnels since both involve curves, and I need to lay out the track to ensure placement is correct for the entry and exit clearances.

I've looked at several different threads in the various forums on different materials and methods for tunnel construction, but have not settled on one.  (leaning to Cozad's PTW and mortar or the corrigated plastic pipe, but have some concerns about each with my track plan)   Question [?]  Suggestions and comments would be appreciated.Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by imrnjr on Monday, February 19, 2007 6:43 PM

Thanks for the advice Ian --- don't know if I can given the way I've pre disposed the topography.   fixed part of the lighting issue, but the lights are dimDead [xx(]... got to check with an electrician friend to see what I'm doing wrong.  Will post a few pictures in the next couple of days... gonna play golf tomorrow since it's gonna be 70+ degrees F and the wind is only supposed to be in the teens.....

 

Happy trails....

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 19, 2007 5:59 PM

Mark;

From my experience it would be better if you could shift your 3 to 3.5 % grade away from a curve, you will be surprised at how much ity will shorten the train lengths you can handle.

From one who has doen it.

Rgds Ian

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Posted by imrnjr on Sunday, February 18, 2007 8:01 PM

Well -- It's finally gotten semi-warm and the wind is blowing 15-20 mph but just had to get out and do something today.  Got all the power and conduit done in the train barn, but mis-wired the lights and switches so only one light worksSign - Oops [#oops].... oh well just have to trace it out and do it again.  I'd never make a good electrician....  Still have a little trim work to do before we move the rest of the dirt and rock.  Should be in the earth moving mode middle of next week.  More pictures in the next couple of days (I hope...)Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by imrnjr on Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:25 AM

Thanks for the comments guys... to try and answer the questions from the posts here goes...

the area is about 45 feet wide and varies from 28 to 38 feet deep left to right on the track plan.

If you look at the Track plan there are a couple of sidings and some area that I plan to store the trains and electronics in in the Train barn..  It's 14 feet end to end and 12 feet in the main area.  The switches are tight, but leaving or entering the main line speeds will be very low.  I've pulled 110VAC to it and run conduit from it to center and around the perimeter of the garden with and access or jucntion box about every 25-30 feet.  I'll feed DCC power to track and switch controls Through the conduit....(I hope....) Still don't have a good feeling about the DCC implementation, but I'm committed .... or as my lovely bride says committable.....Cowboy [C):-)] 

The cribbing is pressure treated 3/4 inch ripped to approximately 5/8ths ( I use 1x4 and 1x6 nominal) and cut in various lengths from 6 inches to 24 inches and then stacked using 8-32 all thread through a 9/32s hole and double nutted top and bottom. I've varied the verticle sizing to fit the need but most of it is 12 to 18 inches high.  The highest is 28 to 30...  The all thread lets me adjust the contour to meet my needs.  The off cuts and short waste peices are stuck in randomly to look like a deadman.....relatively easy to put together and stake in place with pressure treated dowels or off cuts twice as long as the cribbing is high.  Place the cribbing, and drive the stake to just below the top rail, then use a brad or finish nailer to tie the stake and cribbing together.  (A little glue doesnt hurt either.... but I generally don't use it takes to much time.)

The max grade will be in the 3%-3.5% range and that will be in the inside of the double loop at the upper right hand corner of the track plan.  right now I plan to deal with the clime via a series of trestle bents and fill.  There will be some 1.5% to 2% grades  on the down hill side of the inside loop, but right now I think every thing is managable... long curves and straights with short trains re early 1900's to 1930's  and depression era doodle bugs and motorized combines  for rural passenger and general freight services.

It's been cold and drizzly here in west Texas the last couple of day so not much progess in the second half of the week.  Tomorrow's supposed to be better.... but then so was today.  I apologize in advance for my PP typing and spelling

 Goodnight all....

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:44 PM

Mark mate, really DCC is not such a big start up costs, compared to DC or even R/C and in the long run it can be cheaper, as you need less track for the same result, as you can control your rolling stock better. But allow about $100 extra per loco.

Another subject; have you put a level over your intended layout, it looks to have a fair slope on it?

Anyway keep up the good work, what you have done so far looks awsome to me.

Rgds Ian 

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:48 PM
Mark, Me again. Forgot to ask this morning, how high is the cribbing and what size lumber did you use? I'm thinking of including some on my layout. I need to go about 15 inches, but could do some stone walls and cribbing on the ends. Jack
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:23 PM

All I can say is wow!  Looks like a 30x40' space or there abouts, right?  Man you haven't started a hobby, you've started a career! 

I wish I had the space you have, and the where-with-all to take on a project like yours.  Loved the pictures, please keep us posted.  Will in interested to see how you utilize the train barn.

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:28 AM
Mark, Great pictures. You have a really huge project on your hands. Your work to date looks great. Keep us up-to-date on your progress. The cribbing looks like the real thing. Jack

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