Covenants & Restirctions?

[emdgp92]

I live in an older suburb of Pittsburgh. We're pretty much free to do whatever we want to our residences. The borough does insist that you keep the yard cut (not weekly, but they don't want 3-foot-high grass either) and free of debris. Junk cars on the property are illegal, but that doesn't stop them from occasionally showing up, especially if they're hidden from the street.

I'm not for HOAs either. They're usually a bunch of anal-rententive busy-bodies who have nothing better to do than insisting on sticking their noses in other people's business. How do I know this? The goofballs next door to my old house were *constantly* coming up with HOA-style "regulations" to harass everyone else. Did we have an HOA? No. But that didn't stop them from using the local police department to enforce little-used borough ordinances  and make things annoying for the rest of us. What they'd do, is they would actually look up ordinances, find an offender, and then call the cops. Needless to say, they weren't exactly liked in town...

Until an HOA starts paying my mortgage, utility, or other fees, they have no right to tell me what to do with *my* property.

Sorry if I sound a bit upset, but the HOA concept simply rubs me the wrong way.

[cabbage]

"After due consideration, and due democratic process. The Elected Government for the Crown Colony Of Southern Rhodesia...

.... GOD Save The Queen"

I had to learn that off by heart -it seems from reading these posts that you have forgotten something. I have it on good authority that it was very carefully worded NOT to sound any thing like:

"We the People...."

I find it curious that BOTH these documents have been penned and signed by Englishmen(!)

regards

ralph

[tangerine-jack]

"After due consideration, and due democratic process. The Elected Government for the Crown Colony Of Southern Rhodesia... .... GOD Save The Queen" I had to learn that off by heart -it seems from reading these posts that you have forgotten something. I have it on good authority that it was very carefully worded NOT to sound any thing like: "We the People...." I find it curious that BOTH these documents have been penned and signed by Englishmen(!) regards ralph

 

Thomas Jefferson was NOT and Englishman, nor were most of the "founding fathers" of this country.  He was born in Virginia, the third of ten children (two of them were stillborn). His mother was Jane Randolph, daughter of Isham Randolph, and a cousin of Peyton Randolph. Jefferson's father was Peter Jefferson, a planter and surveyor who owned a plantation in Albemarle County named Shadwell.  Later he moved to Montecello and founded the University of Virginia with the donation of his personal library.  He was good at everything, a true genius of any age.

 

[vsmith]

"After due consideration, and due democratic process. The Elected Government for the Crown Colony Of Southern Rhodesia... .... GOD Save The Queen" I had to learn that off by heart -it seems from reading these posts that you have forgotten something. I have it on good authority that it was very carefully worded NOT to sound any thing like: "We the People...." I find it curious that BOTH these documents have been penned and signed by Englishmen(!) regards ralph

 

Thomas Jefferson was NOT and Englishman, nor were most of the "founding fathers" of this country.  He was born in Virginia, the third of ten children (two of them were stillborn). His mother was Jane Randolph, daughter of Isham Randolph, and a cousin of Peyton Randolph. Jefferson's father was Peter Jefferson, a planter and surveyor who owned a plantation in Albemarle County named Shadwell.  Later he moved to Montecello and founded the University of Virginia with the donation of his personal library.  He was good at everything, a true genius of any age.

 

Quite true, while technically all Americans in June of 1776 were subjects of the English Crown, if you were to call Jefferson an Englishman to his face, he'd likely be offended and reply "Sir I am a Virginian, not an Englishman!" The notion of being American had a great fervor during the revolution but by 1820 identity by State was once again the dominant form of where one associated ones allegiance in the loosly titled "United States of America" Of course it was this lack of a wider National identity in favor of a rabid State indentity that helped fuel all that unpleasantness around Fort Sumpter in '61....

[tangerine-jack]

Yes Vic!  That is 100% correct, give yourself a gold star!

I don't think Jefferson, Madison, Henry or any of the others would have tolerated a HOA, they probably would have made some speaches and whipped the mob into a fervor until they burned down the home of the president of the HOA and run them out of town.  Ah for the good old days.......

[Capt Bob Johnson]

And I, Gentlemen, believe more in States Rights than I do Federalism!