The Pub.............grab a pint and..........

[highrailjon]

QUOTE: I can never understand why Americans drink so much coffee

I think because all our tea wound up in the Boston Harbor.[:D] Sam Adams Boston Ale, Please.

[Anonymous]

At least you where drinking Becks mate, purity laws etc. Ref Carling Ian you may be interested to know that the Isle of Man had very similar purity laws to Germany and one of the local brewers, Ockells, asked the Tindwall (local government) to repeal the purity laws so they could brew Carling!! The bloody sods did as well.

VIC, Brooklyn Brewery and the beer was Brooklyn Best.
Cheers,
Kim
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Cheers,
Kim
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[Anonymous]

Gentlemen;

I am now in a position to comment on British warm beerand i can tell you that fronm my point of view it is awful.

However I had some Carlings that i quite liked but I like to drink Beer very cold and thats not how you get it around here.

After being in Bremen Germany for a month which is the home of Becks Beer, what a great drop and the way that they sell it is very good. 24 for 9 euro and they come inwhat looks like a small milk crate. and when you finish you take it back and they give you 3.40 Euro back on the crate and the bottles.

On to slitghtly different matter, what is the relationship between Boris becker and Becks beer, you might be surprised

Regrds Ian

[Anonymous]

Vic, I have had a bottle of Anchor Steam, I can't remember where I had it but I remember seeing their advertising stuff in a pub and it was that led me to it. I suspect it would have been in Manchester, we go for day long drinking trips there, via the train of course! It's not as bad as it sounds as we have a well trod route with a good walk between pubs, they are all cask houses and on the day we probably have a choice of 50+ beers, one of them is also a micro brewery. Another of our local Manchester brewers has a link up with a New York brewery, I'll find out which, and they even traded head brewers a few years back and they brewed a special cask beer each. Back to the day long drinking trip, we also have at least one good meal so we are well set up and going home is great for me as Blackpool North station is a terminus so I can't miss my stop!
Cheers,
Kim
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[vsmith]

Since this is obvioulsy the drinkers thread now!

Wish I could try a pint of Lancaster Bomber, dont suppose they brew enough for export.

Here in the US we get some odd ones occasionally, but there mostly specialty beers from some of the larger brewers who can afford to export. One I always look for is from Young's "Old Nick" which is a barleywine ale, nothing on the US market is even anywhere similar.

The two most common English brews that are now available on tap at many places here are Guinness, which I discovered when I was 21 and used to be a pain to find, and Newcastles (beats Bud, usally with a stick).

Some other bottled commercial brands that are popular here: Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout, Old Peculiar, Paddington's Pub Ale has found a following here, and my personal favorite Murphy's Stout, there are quite a few others also avalable. I'm sure it varies region to region too.

American micro breweries have really helped fill in the taste buds since the early 80's when your beer choices used to be Bud, Coors, or Miller (all **** beers to me). Far too many good ones to name...Arroyo, Redtail, Firestone, Craftsman, yadda yadda yadda. Some have become big brewers on there own like Samual Adams, Petes Wicked Ale, Sierra Nevada, and one I have to recommend, the beer that saved me from Bud and if you can find it, try it, Anchor Steam from San Francisco, they were perhaps the FIRST micro-brand as we know them today, still one of the best.

[John Busby]

Hi Kim
Oh well won't be able to get the beer but if I ever get
back to the UK.
At least I will be able to get a train and find out if the Nags Head
and my child hood home is still there.
regards John

[John Busby]

Hi Capt Carrales
Maybe you just found the solution to the oil crisis[:D]
moonshine powered cars I give no garentee***hat it will be able
to be driven in a straight line[:D]
regards John

[Anonymous]

Vic, the brewery that brews the beer for my local, Thwaites, also brew Coors under licence. It's that popular that a £2-50 bottle is now being sold for £1-00 - Rocky Mountain run off - I like it!
Ian called me last night, he and Doreen are now just outside london and having a great time, be introducing them to the delights of 'Lancaster Bomber' in a couple of weeks.
Cheers,
Kim
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[Anonymous]

Hey Joe i was related by marriage to some people who made cider illegally and eventually the revenue people got them.regrds

Ian

[vsmith]

Given a choice between Budwieser and Newcastle, I'll take my chances with the brain rot!

Theres an old saying here, "Budwieser, they don't have them Clydsedales for nothing!"

Another old saying, "Coors, Rocky Mountain runoff"

[Anonymous]

Hi John,
Yes they do, there is both a fast (40min) and a slow (55min) service with 7 or eight per hour. Pocheen in a water boiler, hmmm, wouldn't want to be around if that caught fire. Newcastle Brown is why geordies speak funny, can't stand it myself, tastes like it's full of sugar. Ind Coupe went many years ago mate, I think Whitbread ate them, who in turn got whacked by Scottish Newcastle I think.
Cheers mate,
Kim
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[John Busby]

Hi Kim
a pint of Ind Coupe (Spelling) thanks
Pocheen ideal substitute for meths in a meths fired live steam locomotive
and don't make more than a gallon at a time or it will be wood alcahol.
Do you know if trains still run from Liverpool St stoping at Bishops Stortford
Oh and leave the Newcastle brown alone real brain rotting fighting beer that
one.
regards John.

[Anonymous]

I forgot to mention pocheen, our Irish friends make this colourless dynamite out of potatoes and it is rocket fuel. It has been many years since I drank it now but I recall one that was so pure it didn't turn Pernod cloudy - no water in it at all, pure alcohol!! I don't think I could handle the stuff these days but I do have fond memories - I think!!
Cheers,
Kim
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[Anonymous]

Hi Joe, sorry to take so long answering your question on beer, been busy drinking the stuff! The drinking scene in the UK is very diverse with lots of silly rules and regulations and the advertising guys trying to push chemical crap in place of the real stuff. A lot of the big national brewers have now sold off their brewing rights to companies like 'Interbrew' that brew, as their name suggests, internationally, this leaves them as pub owning companies and they now buy their beer from 'Interbrew'. We have lots of regional brewers who are still pub owners and brewers and it is one of these pubs that I do most of my drinking, the only down side is that they only sell their own products. We now have a country full of 'micro' brewers who can only brew a few barrells at a time because of the size of their plant. These guys have the odds stacked against them in that they are limited to the pubs they can sell to, some brewers allow their publicans to sell a guest beer and some, like where I drink (Thwaites) don't. On Friday I spent a few enjoyable hours with wife, son & future daughter in law in Preston visiting a half dozen pubs that stock micro brews, the selection was fantastic, we had a choice of over 20 beers in 4 pubs.
All of our brewers produce beer, because they use hops to flavour the beer and to give varying degrees of dryness. Ale is beer without hops (I hope I've got this right!) and is the brew that has been made for hundreds of years. Mead is, as stated, a honey concoction and whilst you could probably find ale and mead it will be in a very few specialist pubs.
We have an organisation called 'Camra' that was founded many years ago when brewers tried to phase out cask ale and replace it with chemical stuff. They have done an excellent job and it is a direct result that we have so many micro brewers. I keep going on about chemical beers, this is beer that during the brewing process nitrogen and goodness knows what other gasses are introduced to give the beer a smooth creamy head, it is then pasteurised and they are called nitro kegs and guinness was the original one -sorry Troy! Cask ale is a living thing because of the yeast in it, a natural by-product is CO2 which keps the beer fresh when the cask is sealed (when not in use). The beer is dispensed by handpump, gravity or electric pump and the style varies around the country, in Troys and Ians area they probably like their beer with no head and filled to the brim, in my area we like a head on the beer that clings to the glass all the way down as it's drunk.
The American brewing scene is coming on leaps and bounds in pubs that brew on the premises and several people I know have had holidays in the states with the sole purpose of drinking and checking out trains. Strange how the hobbies go together.
Cheers,
Kim
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[vsmith]

Actaully Toms got the taste pretty accurate.

[vsmith]

Your all wrong, If you can taste it, it ain't moonshine!

They sell the stuff here in the US in certain states, its sold under the name "Everclear"
Its colorless, has almost no odor, and has no other flavor than the achohol in it, thats because its 190 proof!!!!! Yes 190 proof, It aint a drink, its rocket fuel!!!

My introduction to Mr Everclear came at a graduation party in school in college, some guys drove to Arizona to get it so they could mix Hula Julas which is a classic GI Joe hooch recipe from the Pacific Theater of combat and consisted of two ingrediants, grain alcohol and Fruit Punch, Hawaiian Punch being the best. I got a half glass on entry to the party, my date got a half glass and kept pouring hers into my glass, before I knew it knew it I was seeing technicolor wonders as colors flowed from every light source, thats about the time the cops arrived and broke up the party. I was still pretty high up in the stratosphere, mind you I didnt "feel" drunk nor did I act drunk at anytime, I was just "up there". A few of us ended up at a Denny's a block away from the party and stayed there till 3am talking till we back on the ground.

[ttrigg]

Flavor.....Taste......

Granddad's shine had three distinct flavors.

1. Flaming fire in the mouth.

2. Flaming fire in the pipes.

3. Roaring bonfire in the gut.

Kind of like German afflekorn except multiplied by a factor of ten or more!

[Anonymous]

I once had...moonshine...one week out of the still. It was, dare I say...too much for me.

It makes great fuel!

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by troybetts

Ha ha Trigg.
I assume that moonshine is a sort of whisky type thing?
I remember when I told a friend that I can't stand the taste of Scotch or Whisky.
............................................

Ha ha ha Troy,

Some even think it's almost like "Bourbon". The name had me puzzled for a while since I suspected it had nothing to do with the French royal family.

Then one day it dawned on me; it was most likely the genteel form of "burp on". [:)][;)][:D][:D]

[ttrigg]

Troy:

The stuff Granddad "produced" started life in a corn field, with a couple of mashed potatoes tossed in as good measure. BTW the jug that we found had been hidden and lost in the barn for almost 30 years! Grandad always uses a carved corn cob for a stopper, and then he poured a lead seal around the corn cob and mouth of the jug, he then scratched in the date. 1929

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by troybetts

Vic-
Meade is very nice but very sweet.
Try some proper abysynthe (spelling) in a VERY small glass.Helps if you have a doctor near by.
Anybody tried some proper moonshine?

Absinthe is actually illegal in the United States! Ocar Wilde..."The first stage is like ordinary drinking, the second when you begin to see monstrous and cruel things, but if you can persevere you will enter in upon the third stage where you see things that you want to see, wonderful curious things."

I have never partaken of this drink, my Brother was interested in finding a bottle but on one we ever asked had heard of it.

[Anonymous]

Ha ha Trigg.
I assume that moonshine is a sort of whisky type thing?
I remember when I told a friend that I can't stand the taste of Scotch or Whisky.
"Oh,you havn't tried the right stuff yet!" he said
Four hours later I woke up in a field ,talking to a stray dog (true)
I still don't like the taste of either.
(mind you,I've stayed in contact with the dog[:D] )

[ttrigg]

Troy;

Some 45 plus years ago, my cousin and I found a earthen ware jug of "shine" that my granddad had hidden in the hayloft of the barn. Being that we were 15 or 16 at the time we had to give it a try. One of my uncles found us in the barn and drug us to the house. (We were no longer capable of walking) Dad took an old lard bucket (think 5 gal painters bucket with sealing lid except made out of metal) attached some wires from a spark plug to the car motor, put in a shot glass full of the "shine" sealed the lid. When he started the car, the bucket BLEW UP, left a hole in the asphalt driveway over a foot deep and three feet across. Dad and Uncle John both agreered that if it was good enough to explode it surely would be good enough to consume. My headache lasted six days, stomach took about two weeks to settle down.[xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(]

[Anonymous]

Vic-
Meade is very nice but very sweet.
Try some proper abysynthe (spelling) in a VERY small glass.Helps if you have a doctor near by.
Anybody tried some proper moonshine?

[vsmith]

Troy ya forgot to mention Meade, an ancient drink made from fermenting honey, never got to try it thought , too many "Pasturization" rules over here for any real daring drinks. Though i did get to drink Pulque (Pool-kay) in Mexico, Pulque is pre-spanish fermented Agave which the Aztecs and Mayans used in rituals, tastes literally like an alcohol mixed with Mallox. the spanish distilled the Pulque into Mescal, the best Mescal comes from one area in Mexico, Tequila. Kinda like Cognac and Champaigne, you cant call it that if its from somewhere else.

[siberianmo]

Been quite a bit of talk lately regarding Coffee Shops and the like .... all not very positive. Too bad, really. After all, choice is what these forums are all about. Compared to some of the absolute nonsense being posted - polls on polls, for example - I'd prefer to spend my time chatting with those who have similar interests. Which brings me to the point of THIS post:

C'mon over to Classic Trains and visit us at "Our" Place an honest to goodness cyber bar 'n grill, where the talk is about Classic Trains real and model, along with lots of good natured adult fun.

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

Jose,
Kim lives in the heartland of good beers.Most English people enjoy their beer.My favourite is the black stuff (Guiness)
But a night spent in the pub working through the guest beers is a wonderful experience (well it is until you go numb)
As Kim says.Real ale.Room temperature.(and someone to carry you home)

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kimbrit

Joe, if you are a RUM-o ther's no such thing as a clear record, hazy - yes, clear - no.
Meeting Gail from work this afternoon and we are in Preston for a few beers around the cask ale pubs, half a dozen within a few yards of each other, yum yum! Early evening meet the youngest lad & his girlfriend for a chinese & then home and a few more beers. Gail had made other plans with her mates for tonight but our wonderful summer weather has put paid to them, so plan B.
Cheers,
Kim
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I am much curious. In South Texas most people secure their libations from glass bottles (beer...mass produced and bottled at some distant factory in some distant time). What types of ale's are commonly consumed in British Pubs?

As I recall from Beowulf there are meades and ales; but I image there has been some upgrading. Being that I have go frame of reference...please cure me of my ignorance.[:p]

[Anonymous]

Joe, if you are a RUM-o ther's no such thing as a clear record, hazy - yes, clear - no.
Meeting Gail from work this afternoon and we are in Preston for a few beers around the cask ale pubs, half a dozen within a few yards of each other, yum yum! Early evening meet the youngest lad & his girlfriend for a chinese & then home and a few more beers. Gail had made other plans with her mates for tonight but our wonderful summer weather has put paid to them, so plan B.
Cheers,
Kim
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