METAL WHEEL'S

[Anonymous]

Mark, at ridge road station, aristo ball bearing wheel sets are $23 for 2 axles, and LGB is $25. I guess you are not talking about ball bearing wheel sets.
so $45 to $50 additional for each car is pretty steep, considering the cars, bought "right" are about $70 to $100. (I'm pricing used and ebay USA trains cars, Aristo Bachmann, etc. can be had for much less)

Again, does anyone have a less expensive way to get ball bearing wheels (not journals).

Greg


Greg

[Anonymous]

greg

most all the new usa cars are with metal wheels.

[Anonymous]

I'm looking for ball bearing wheels, not just ordinary metal wheel sets.

Ball bearings between the wheel and axle, not a model of a roller bearing wheel.

Greg

[Anonymous]

gregeusa
hope this helps.
LGB number, 67403. It is the ball bearings that do it not the metal wheels.

[Anonymous]

One of the problems with buying wheel sets, is that different people have dofferent ideas as to what is a wheel set. I think four wheels on two axles is a set; what do thers think?

Rgds Ian

[Anonymous]

sheesh... I want metal wheels... that's for keeping the rails and loco wheels free of gunk....

I want the metal wheels to have ball bearings between the axle and the wheels, that's for better rolling resistance, especially on curved track.

So, no plastic lgb wheels, no ball bearings in the journals.

So far, the San-Val wheelsets look interesting, $10 for 2 wheelsets, or one truck's worth. Half the price of the Aristo, and much cheaper than Gary Raymond.

Anyone else find any other sources of metal wheels with bearings (as described above in this post)

A wheelset is usually a set of 2 wheels and an axle... like the piece you get on a real railroad.

I have never had anyone use the description "truck set", but many sites say "xxx, enough for one truck", since the definition seems to vary, you have to get it explicitly stated just what "set" means.

Greg

[Anonymous]

greg
pairs is just like you said 4 wheels 2 axles. 2 pairs per 8 axle cars. does this help.

[Anonymous]

All my MDC Hoppers are fitted with USA trains wheel sets. I fitted some BAchmann wheels to a couple of the USA trains reefers I purchased that had plastic wheels on them and to be honest, they are OK but they dont have the weight that the USA wheels have. Plus the USA wheels roll easier. Just my humble opinion.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SoundGK

All my MDC Hoppers are fitted with USA trains wheel sets. I fitted some BAchmann wheels to a couple of the USA trains reefers I purchased that had plastic wheels on them and to be honest, they are OK but they dont have the weight that the USA wheels have. Plus the USA wheels roll easier. Just my humble opinion.

are the BAchmann wheels 1/20 or 1/29 size ?

[Anonymous]

Bachmann certainly has 2 wheelsizes, if not 3. Yesterday I ran a home built water tank car that I built years ago with Aristo bogies & plastic wheels, today I had to clean all of the track, black crap every inch of the way. That tank is staying on the spur from now on. I agree with Ian about LGB plastic wheels, they use a very durable plastic that doesn't leave crud everywhere. Any other make you have to fit metal if it's supplied with plastic. Is it right that USA are now fitting metal wheels as standard? About time!
Cheers,
Kim
[tup]

[Anonymous]

Yep, all current USA are steel wheels. I can't say this on the Aristo forum, but the weight of the wheels alone makes a big difference in derailments. I don't have perfect track, and run a USA trains lighted caboose, which has a lot of drag. If I put 6 USA cars on with the caboose, no problem. Swap out one USA car for an Aristo box or reefer with plastic wheels, bam, derailment.

Since replacement wheels are 20-30 dollars a set of 2, then adding 40-60 dollars to an aristo freight car is absurd.

If I pay $100 off the shelf in a local hobby shop for a USA box, with superior detailing, I'm still ahead of buying an Aristo.

It's too bad, since Aristo is very agressive with new products. Seems that they are focused on the high profit items, like locos.

No problem, I just vote with my pocket book.

Aside: "train-me" aren't you Steve Q from the Aristo forum? I'm Greg Elmassian... I kind of like real names.

Greg

[Anonymous]

gregusa is a real name? I'm Greg Elmassian... I kind of like real names.

"very little hidden from you i have a lot in my profile including my photo.
you have what in your profile?
nothing hidden if you look. i kind of like profiles" thats more then real names" i guess its just a opinion
happy RR

[Anonymous]

I belong to so many forums, typing a bunch of stuff about myself in so many places is tedious. I wish I had put my real name in instead of a "handle", but that's what was suggested in signing up.

There are over 2,000 hits on my name on the web, so, instead of what I want to say about myself, the real deal is out there.

I wrote a little bit about myself on my web site, www.elmassian.com so if I want to change something, it's in one place.

So, I'm not sure if you were criticising me for nothing in my profile or not, and I CERTAINLY was not criticising you. My statement was about myself.

There is a big increase in spam mail and weirdos giving you a bad time if you put your real name on everything. That said, if you have a web site, you're likely to get hit anyways, I get about 350 spam mails a day.

Anyway good to see you over here. I don't even like mentioning Aristo problems on their site, no matter how legitimate, like the problems with the switch frogs, and how the jumper wires come loose/corrode all the time. So this is a nice place to unwind.

Regards, Greg

[Gavin Sowry]

I don't have any problem with Bachmann metal wheels. In fact, just yesterday I replaced a set of plastic wheels on my Bachmann Tank Car with metal ones.
I found that this car tracks much better, and having a lower centre of gravity now, is less prone to be blown off the track in high wind. It is not unknown in this part of New Zealand for real trains to get blown off the track. ( less likely now with heavier steel rolling stock)

[Anonymous]

I wonder if the upcoming San Val wheelsets will fit Aristo and Bachmann cars? I guess we will see, but could be the shot in the arm that these cars need.

One thing for sure, any extra weight helps, my Bachmanns and Aristos just don;t track like the USA trains rolling stock.

Now, my trackwork is not perfect, right now lying on mostly landscape bark. My track is better suited to a shay!

Greg