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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 8:31 PM
I all ready have a MR. ROGERS trolly , but it does not have a motor in it yet , I'M thinking of useing a litter critter motor block. I was at a place up state penna. where they made them several years ago and pick it up. the company name HOLGATE TOY CO. kane, penna. CAN'T find a web site for them Ben
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 6:25 PM
Sandy, I already plan to build that one eventually for nostalga sake. I asked a question a year or so back on the scale of the orignal and came up with a good site on the whole Mr. Rodgers trolly thing. That was my favorite parrt of the show growing up! Trolly was the Thomas of his day.

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Posted by SandyR on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 3:19 PM
It would be fun to build a model of Mr. Rogers neighborhood trolley...and would probably violate a copyright, too...Oh, well...
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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 2:55 PM
Yes Troy

a TRAM!

A small, two axle type like a shrunken version of Bachmanns tram but dead on for the scale of my layout! I need to decide when I build it whether to use the two axle version or add small trucks which is how most of the reused trolleys were modified when they got recycled. That and whether to use link-n-pin or add Bachmann couplers

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 2:15 PM
Trolley -does this mean tram---speak to me!!!!
What--removed motors,,,,,Passenger cars ,,noooooooooooooooo!!
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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 1:47 PM
John the newest GR has TROLLEY plans!!!

I plan to build this trolley as an unpowered passenger car. This was done on several small NG RR lines where they took second hand trolley cars, removed the motors, and used them as cheap passenger cars for short travel service. It looks like it fits nicely into the scale of my layout.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 9:11 AM
Hi Troy
Whats the next tram project that is obviously more your thing than trains[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 9:06 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by aljay

Well that clears that up,................................I guess..........whats next,? Gscale on n scale track . That could have some use. [:o)] [}:)]

So when do we see the model of the local model engineer club.
I think we should be told[:D]
that gauge could be used for 5" to 71/4" gauge trains[8D]
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Posted by grandpopswalt on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 9:15 AM
Tony,

I couldn't find my calculator so I used the old slide rule. Obviously I must be pretty rusty to have missed by that much................................ Not really, I just did some rough math on 1:22.5 and came up with those numbers. The point is that 1:22.5 scale is supposed to represent 1 meter gauge.

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Posted by Kiwi Down Under on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 1:31 AM
Walt
Unfortunately the guage you refer to is 3ft 6" ( 42 inches). A metre is 39 inches.
Back to the drawing board with your scale ruler.
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Posted by aljay on Monday, February 28, 2005 7:20 PM
HO
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 28, 2005 4:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

I've seen pics of a Z gauge layout in the backyard of a G scale house, a model garden RR in the garden RR!


Alrighty then, what scale would the "Z" garden railroad be if the Real garden railroad layout is 1:20 or 1:29?????????[:D]
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, February 28, 2005 11:40 AM
I've seen pics of a Z gauge layout in the backyard of a G scale house, a model garden RR in the garden RR!

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Posted by aljay on Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:49 PM
Well that clears that up,................................I guess..........whats next,? Gscale on n scale track . That could have some use. [:o)] [}:)]
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Posted by vsmith on Friday, February 25, 2005 12:48 PM
YEP, I just being a little more generic [#ditto]

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Posted by grandpopswalt on Friday, February 25, 2005 11:41 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Tim

Gn15 and Gn24 are used to describe very narrow gauge trains in G scale

we can all agree that G scale when refered to narrow gauge generally refers to 3 foot 0 inches between the rails, technically it should be called Gn3 and therefore Gn24 refers to G scale trains operating on tracks that are 2 foot 0 inches between the rails and utilizes O gauge track, and Gn15 refers to G scale trains that operated on rails 15 inches in guage and uses HO guage track.


I believe that "G" scale is 1:22.5. Therefore 45MM track would represent 3.32ft between the rails or 3'4" or 1 meter. The scale and track gauge were chosen to represent the european narrow gauge standard of 1 meter between the rails.

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Posted by TurboOne on Friday, February 25, 2005 2:50 AM
Matt, Iced coffee is great, but not while its raining.

Capt. Bob, right you are....[:)] [:)] [:)]

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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Saturday, February 19, 2005 1:49 PM
Ian,
Sit around sipping your coffee and solving the woes of the world! In other words, a glorified general B ___SH__ session!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:00 AM
Ian, I tried Ice coffee once, can't really remember if i liked it or not. Although I do have a habit of drinking my coffee long after has lost it's heat and concidered cold by everyone elses standards.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 18, 2005 7:11 PM
I just never understood what this coffee shop thing was all about and I didn't get involved in it too much, as you didn't have iced coffee. Its too hot here to drink the real stuff at this time.


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 18, 2005 7:16 AM
MATT
I am going friday , the way it looks be fore the saturaday crush of people, i would have liked to hooked up with you , but it will not work out. maybe some time??? this show i hear the vender tables are sold out at the train show. bring you banker along. I ONLY LIVE ABOUT 50 MILES FROM THEIR. BEN[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:13 PM
Ben, i believe I will be. Probably noonish Saturday till Sunday then driave home.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:42 PM
MATT
Are you comming to the ECLSTS???? BEN
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:39 PM
21 inches is this carpenters cubit[:D]

You ever here the Bill Cosby comedy rutine about Noah and the Lord?
Noah " What's a cubit"

The Lord " How long can yo tread water"

Hillarous stuff!

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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:31 AM
Technically a Cubit is a measure of lenth from the tip of your elbow to the tip of your middle finger and was measured by laying your forearm an hand down onto whatever you were measuring. 18" is an "average" dimension used to describe it, but it varied greatly depending on how tall or short the carpenter was. Back before there were standards of measurement, body parts were used for measurements. The "Hand" was a common measuring unit, as were fingers, fists, and where do you think we get "feet" from? Horses heights today are still refered to in "Hands".

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Posted by bman36 on Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by grandpopswalt

Vic and Tim,

Sounds as though you guys should start considering work on a scale ark, let's see ....... how long is a cubit?

Walt
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According to history a cubit is equal to 18", or 1-1/2 feet. Now do the math! [:D] A scale Ark huh? Hmmmmmmm...better hire a Cat to build the scale mountain to put it on. [:o)] Later eh...Brian.
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Posted by grandpopswalt on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:53 PM
Vic and Tim,

Sounds as though you guys should start considering work on a scale ark, let's see ....... how long is a cubit?

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Posted by TurboOne on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:35 AM
Those G scale links are cool. I saved them if I decide to add to the ever growing wish list.

I like the new name for growing topic. I have a real cup of tea, actually a tall coffee mug full of tea in my hand, so who needs fake tea. [:D]

More rain coming to San Diego, but not as much as LA is getting. Guess you could really build a whole new layout easy after the next back of water. Been looking at some houses in Las Vegas, I will definately full on switch to G if we move, HO train store is poor. G scale store is great. Also they have a G club there, no HO club. Still wish I could do the HO thing outdoors, what a layout in 20 x 50 area. Miles of track. [:D][:D]

But I bet the summer the entire track would be liquid black ties. [}:)]

Either way, cab forward bound when it comes.

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Posted by SandyR on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:26 PM
I wonder if the problems that folks have with Gn15 outdoors are due to using HO scale track (code 100 rail and puny ties) and HO wheelsets.
Think now, scale wheels in 'G' (I use the term loosely) have wider treads and deeper flanges than HO scale wheels do. Furthermore, even on a 15" gauge prototype, wouldn't the rails be somewhat heavier than what code 100 represents?
In other words, Gn15 would work fine outside with full-scale wheels and taller rail, maybe code 148.
Just a thought...and should I have started a separate thread with this?
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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:00 PM
heres some tasty tid-bits of Gn15

http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/PDF%20Files/Page%2018.pdf

http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/PDF%20Files/Page%2019.pdf

the catalog states it operates on On30 track, but On30 is the same gauge as HO track.[:D]


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