Stupid Question Thread

[Anonymous]

Did you import a picture of a real one or the model.Someone looked at one of my pictures of real trams and thought that I had built it [%-)]
I wish I could build that well.

[TurboOne]

Your model from your post a while back. The time you took had to be incredible, the detail and craftmanship was great.

Here is what I posted in the MRR forum.

To trolleyrob and other trolley fans, (Ryan among others)

Here is a great website

http://members.lycos.co.uk/troybetts/

Troy also builds trams from scratch, they look incredible.

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30309

by the way as you see his dad was a part of the real trams over there.

Good job Troy

Hope all you trolley fans enjoy [:D] [:D] [:D] [:D]

Tim (dad of trains fans) [:)]


Tim

[Anonymous]

I see these trams all the time, and ride on them, it's where I live. The name on the destination board of Troys dads tram, Marton, is the actual area that my house is in. As a matter of interest the Blackpool trams run from the St Annes/ Blackpool border north through Blackpool and onto Fleetwood, following the coast for most of the way. I think the newest tram is the best part of 60 years old now and the oldest, again I think, is a diminutive double decker ex Bolton transport that is 100 years old. Some of the trams are decorated up with light displays for our annual illuminations that run from September through November, very colourful. Fleetwood used to be a very busy seaport that was the actual terminus of railways running North from London up to Scotland. Passengers would embark onto steamers here for a sea journey upto Glasgow where they would pick up the train again. A rail route was finally engineered over the fell barrier as loco's became more powerful and the importance of Fleetwood diminished. Blackpool can be visited at www.blackpool.gov.uk
Cheers,
Kim
[tup]

[TurboOne]

Kim, do they make these trams in HO, O, or G scale. Besides Troys creation ?

Thanks

Tim

[powlee]

Kim
Never been to Blackpool. Funny how we travel the world and don`t see half of our own country. Wife says we must make the trip one day. I might have been there on Saturday but was cancelled as we are now at Hartlepool in the FA Cup.
Cheers Ian P

[Anonymous]

Tim,

Corgi make a lot of them in HO scale and you can get them motorised with Bachmann blocks. I think any other scale would be a build it yourself or bash a Bachmann G scale trolley car.
Cheers,
Kim

Ian, give us a shout if you are up this way mate.
Cheers,
Kim

[vsmith]

Those are Awesome models, Troy

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the kind remarks,but the're not really that good.I only build them because I used to play on them when I was young.
There are some fantastic modellers out there.I'm just a cheapskate imitation.
Troy

[Anonymous]

Well I am living on the other side of the world in a different day and a different season and i don't understand it at all. The minute i saw all the rubbish i thought this isn't for me so i went away from the forum for a while, I'm back but just for this comment.

I am going to take a rest from the forum for a while I would be very surprisd if any of the regulars would make even the slightest of a nasty comment to any one else. If we have people that are so thin skinned well they are not for me.


regrds


Ian

[vsmith]

Ian, I think my comments at the top of this page pretty much sum up my feelings on the issue, its not so much that some are thinner skined than others, its also the language differences between us, we are spread out between 3 continents and god knows how many different backgrounds. As I said I hold back alot of my humor because I have ended up creating problems myself when a sarcasticly humorous comment was tken the wrong way. Now I get where your coming from in your comments but I'm used to it, others who are not so exposed to those type of comments will take it differently. Anyway I know your frustrated, and I can understand your desire to take a Vacation, but dont stay away forever, take a couple days then come back. I had to do that a while ago on another forum, I got hot at something, said some stuff that PO'd some people, decided I needed to stay away for a couple days. I'm back there, no worse for wear.. Dont take too long... Vic

[TurboOne]

Ian, take a few days to chill, play with the trains, then come back and have a good time. Playing with trains is always the best therapy.

Vic, heading to Las Vegas, gonna check out some train stores.

Tim

[vsmith]

Tim,

Dont pull to many handles while your there, Later Vic

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Tim,

Dont pull to many handles while your there, Later Vic

Tim, Are you hoping to increase this years RR budget[?]

[aljay]

Well Im back and also confused, my normal point of being, Been real busy at work and trying to get back on track for all the closings. I am trying to get early occupancy for the site but got held up by Hydro..........So whats new, or should I even ask.!!!!!!!!!!! [%-)][%-)]

[vsmith]

Aljay, just a family disagreement, no harm done. But I should revise the topic...

I have been considering changing the heading to something similar to on the Trains.com forum called the "Stupid Question Thread" so if you have any simple questions or tips to share post them here

[vsmith]

OK as of Feb 14 2005 this topic has officially become the "Stupid Question Thread"

I rewrote the original topic at the start of this thread thus...

"This was originally the "CONFUSED, What the heck is hpppening here" thread but I decided that this topics original title was becoming no longer relevant but since its already up to 3 pages we might as well find a use for it.

Over on the Trains.com forum is a topic called the "Stupid Question Thread" that is used to post simple questions or tips that might not necessarily need a whole topic dedicated to them. Now this is NOT the Coffee House but dedicated to the fact that even experts get lost and occasionally ask a stupid question and even idiots can have good advice, at least I think my advice is good"

SO lets use this thread for that and see how it goes...

So Post here for....

Simple Questions....

Stupid Questions...

Good Advice.....

Bad Advice....

Tips on how to do something, and...

Tips on how NOT to do something...

Lets see where this takes us...

[aljay]

I like that name , makes it easier to ask stupid questions. After all thats how we all learn.

[SandyR]

I like the name too, and the irony is that I have a cup of coffee right here at hand! So my studpi question (I have way too many, but let's start with just one) is: has anyone built a Gn15 garden railroad? If so, how did it work out? (OK, so that's TWO stupid questions!)
SandyR

[vsmith]

Sandy, I might give it a try later this year, cant be any worse than my experiences with HOn30. I'm kinda hoping this year at the BTS Ozark will have the resin kits for sale. One guy over at MLS tried to add a Gn15 mining tram to his GR but he had too many problems with it, mostly derailments, wind problems, etc. so he switched to Gn24 which is basicly using O gauge track instead of HO, He's been alot happier with it since then. I think Gn15 is going to be mostly for indoors only. I've already decided that if I ever get absolutly sick and tired of my full size G gauge stuff, I'll rebuild the layout to Gn15 and Gn24 scale.

[TurboOne]

Hey guys, had a blast in Vegas, saw lots of trains, stuff, had to go to the M&M store, eat way too much, but no gambling, had my 6 year old with me the whole time. Our cheerleaders didn't place and they were sad. But they did their best, and probably learned a huge lesson, you can't always win.

Was going to go to palace station, as the theme is trains, but still not enough time.

My silly question, we don't use the other s word in this house [:D][:D] kids you know.

What is Gn15 and Gn24 as oppossed to G? Haven't even heard the term before.

Take care, and keep playing with the trains.

Tim

[vsmith]

Tim

Gn15 and Gn24 are used to describe very narrow gauge trains in G scale

we can all agree that G scale when refered to narrow gauge generally refers to 3 foot 0 inches between the rails, technically it should be called Gn3 and therefore Gn24 refers to G scale trains operating on tracks that are 2 foot 0 inches between the rails and utilizes O gauge track, and Gn15 refers to G scale trains that operated on rails 15 inches in guage and uses HO guage track. 2 foot gauge was not uncommon, Maine had several RR's, and 15 inches while odd in reality, Gn15 can encompass the more common 18" industrial trams and Euro 600mm lines which were very common in industries before and after the turn of the 20th century.

Now to throw some confusion into the pot.... at 1/20.3 or F scale 45 mm gauge track at 1/20.3 is 3 feet 0 inches and therefore Fn3, now if thats thru and your using O gauge track in 1/20.3 shouldnt it be called Fn24 same with Fn15or do the scale get whiggy in F where O gauge track scales to 20"? or HO track to 12 inches ???????? What a whiggy wiggy wierd world we live in!

Any F scalers out there can help clear this up????

[SandyR]

OK, it's the Stupid Question Thread. But I've got a Stupid Answer to the question of what scale gives what gauge, especially the Gn15 thing. My answer: build whatever looks right and just don't call it scale! Have fun!
SandyR

[vsmith]

heres some tasty tid-bits of Gn15

http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/PDF%20Files/Page%2018.pdf

http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/PDF%20Files/Page%2019.pdf

the catalog states it operates on On30 track, but On30 is the same gauge as HO track.[:D]

[SandyR]

I wonder if the problems that folks have with Gn15 outdoors are due to using HO scale track (code 100 rail and puny ties) and HO wheelsets.
Think now, scale wheels in 'G' (I use the term loosely) have wider treads and deeper flanges than HO scale wheels do. Furthermore, even on a 15" gauge prototype, wouldn't the rails be somewhat heavier than what code 100 represents?
In other words, Gn15 would work fine outside with full-scale wheels and taller rail, maybe code 148.
Just a thought...and should I have started a separate thread with this?
SandyR

[TurboOne]

Those G scale links are cool. I saved them if I decide to add to the ever growing wish list.

I like the new name for growing topic. I have a real cup of tea, actually a tall coffee mug full of tea in my hand, so who needs fake tea. [:D]

More rain coming to San Diego, but not as much as LA is getting. Guess you could really build a whole new layout easy after the next back of water. Been looking at some houses in Las Vegas, I will definately full on switch to G if we move, HO train store is poor. G scale store is great. Also they have a G club there, no HO club. Still wish I could do the HO thing outdoors, what a layout in 20 x 50 area. Miles of track. [:D][:D]

But I bet the summer the entire track would be liquid black ties. [}:)]

Either way, cab forward bound when it comes.

Tim

[grandpopswalt]

Vic and Tim,

Sounds as though you guys should start considering work on a scale ark, let's see ....... how long is a cubit?

Walt

[bman36]

QUOTE: Originally posted by grandpopswalt

Vic and Tim,

Sounds as though you guys should start considering work on a scale ark, let's see ....... how long is a cubit?

Walt

Walt,
According to history a cubit is equal to 18", or 1-1/2 feet. Now do the math! [:D] A scale Ark huh? Hmmmmmmm...better hire a Cat to build the scale mountain to put it on. [:o)] Later eh...Brian.

[vsmith]

Technically a Cubit is a measure of lenth from the tip of your elbow to the tip of your middle finger and was measured by laying your forearm an hand down onto whatever you were measuring. 18" is an "average" dimension used to describe it, but it varied greatly depending on how tall or short the carpenter was. Back before there were standards of measurement, body parts were used for measurements. The "Hand" was a common measuring unit, as were fingers, fists, and where do you think we get "feet" from? Horses heights today are still refered to in "Hands".

[Anonymous]

21 inches is this carpenters cubit[:D]

You ever here the Bill Cosby comedy rutine about Noah and the Lord?
Noah " What's a cubit"

The Lord " How long can yo tread water"

Hillarous stuff!

Of course nothing beats "Chicken Heart"[;)]

[Anonymous]

MATT
Are you comming to the ECLSTS???? BEN