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New Indoor Layout - New Reckless Experimentation

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Posted by smcgill on Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:29 AM

vsmith

 really like the effect, and I will add some more printed building flats to the rear backdrop

Vic you could add a mirror instead of the brick wall and buildings! Idea

Then you could say it's all smoke and mirrors!! Laugh

Looks great and can't wait to see how things work out!

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:46 AM

Owww... I am sorely tempted to order that print! Thanks for sharing that. Big Smile

PS your right it is the Bronx terminal, I mistakiing labeled as Harlem as I got it mixed with another plan from Carls website than I have yet to convert to G. Edited and fixed

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Posted by PJM20 on Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:49 AM

Actually there are quite a few renditions of CNJ's Bronx Terminal. This is the most famous one by the owner of Fast Tracks:

http://www.bronx-terminal.com/

There is a guy on The RailWire who had partially built it in N Scale.

Keep the updates up Vic, I enjoy seeing this layout coming together.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:04 PM

I reworked the track area at the barge float and rebuilt the lift bridge and track after the 3-way turn out pushed everything 2 inches into the walking aisle, that was a major headache. Now I need to clear off the counter at the area beyond  left side of the layout, but I can't do that till I clear out a bunch of other junk first.

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Posted by dwbeckett on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:23 AM

I like bottom version you can run in both directions.  Any progress on yours? and no I have not made much progress on Ver 10 just some weeding . 

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, March 25, 2013 8:50 PM
Been studying harbor layouts again. Since I drew a plan idea for another fellow on MLS, kinda got some more ideas last weekend, top pic is the version based on the MLS suggested plan, bottom version is based on a plan found on Carl Arendts scrapbook, modified into G, again all R1 curves. Both are self contained Harbor Freight Transfer layouts complete with car float in/out service and could be an interesting ops layout in a small footprint:
 
Just to show another way to approach a self contained switching layout, the bottom version is a lot bigger but its based on a real facility in the Bronx NYC.  Maybe its just me, but the more I study these the more I am surprised they are not more commonly modeled in any scale, the float operation is a perfect excuse for a small totally self contained switching layout with lots of action and a roundy-round option. 

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Posted by Grims on Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:28 AM

I go to bed dreaming of 50s in the day 30s at night  -10 -20 at night to maybe 8 to 10 at day time here.

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Posted by Andrew Simpson on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:03 PM

I'm trying to place a turnout on the bridge, so when the bridge is lifted out the turn out is removed. Not to hard to do, but lining up to rails can be a pain when bridge is replaced.

Today is  91.  Tomorrow is 104 .  Last week went to  109. As I get older it becomes just to hot & windy to do anything outside.

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:38 PM
Nope nothing new to report. Started moving the track by the lift bridge to add in the three way turnout then got piled on by the holidays. Now I am just hoping for temps to warm up and get back to it. Hard to work when its in the 50s in the daytime and the 30s at night.

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Posted by SandyR on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:24 PM

Vic, how's the railroad coming? I guess that you got sidetracked (PUN!) by the LBH from Bachmann. Have to admit, those li'l trains have great kitbashing potential! But...any new pix of the railroad?

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Posted by Andrew Simpson on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:06 PM

Here is some photos from an old post on another website.

http://www.cgtrains.com/t476-new-photos-of-sandbar-and-mudcrab-railways

Inside layout has been modified a bit. As you will see I like 0-4-0 locos, all are battery powered with Hobbyking remote, except for the Aristo Lil critter in which I gutted , squeezed in a 5000 milliamp Li-Po battery and revolution eqiupment. I like the revolution system, but to have each of my locos converted is not financial possible at the moment.  I iike my locos to be individually operated so all visitors can operate a loco.Each loco can be parked on a siding, wires fromt he battery charger hook on to the battery to charge up.

Once I converted to battery power I realized I could make my own turnouts, so there are no troubles with locos triping the power on the frogs and low speed is really  much better than what I had.

One trouble I found was that when a number of people are running the trains, they have to watch where they drive if they are traveling in opposite directions. - Yes there has been head ons!

The trouble is they are used to track power, where they set and forget, thinking the trains will follow each other.

If you want to sit and relax, or have a loco running in the background while working in the shed, then we run in same direction.

A couple of experienced operators using passing sidings makes great enjoyment, working out speed, train positions and direction of travel.

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, December 17, 2012 11:11 PM

I was planning a hinged drop down section at that harbor inlet, so when its in operation I can easily access the inner parts of the layout by simply dropping it then securing it back up to take photos when the layout is not in use.

Any pics of your layout, track plan? always curious how others approach the Great Indoors Wink

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Posted by Andrew Simpson on Monday, December 17, 2012 3:14 PM

That is a good idea for the edging.

Next question is about the construction of the harbour, etc. Will it be a lift out so you can reach over to the back? Also I am very interested in this part of the construction phase.

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Posted by ttrigg on Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:58 PM

When space along the edge is at a premium, and not enough room for a built feature retaining wall consider a short piece of plexiglass with a graphic scene glued on the inside face. I did this back in my N days where a 3 ft fall was "life ending".

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Posted by vsmith on Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:59 PM

ooh, that's a hard one to answer, I have the same risk especially on my peninsula. The best first line of defense is keep the speeds down, second is to keep the track away from the edges, I know thats not easy if you are really tight for space but  depending on how your layout looks the best may be to simply place a low wall, like a retaining wall or similar along that edge particularly at turnouts, which is where I have had the most derailment issues.

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Posted by Andrew Simpson on Friday, December 14, 2012 4:11 PM

My indoor layout had a small accident with a loco & carriages falling to the floor which is a 3 ft drop causing some fixable damage. What would be a suggestion as the best way of fixing some siding to the edge of the layout to prevent this happening again, as well as looking good?

The reason why I raise this here is that it was this plan & photos that inspired me to biuld up a better indoor layout.

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Posted by dwbeckett on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:59 AM

Plenty of operating room. how's the track layout working and some new picthres??

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, December 3, 2012 10:52 AM

After some feedback from the smaller scale guys familiar with dockside type railroads, track plan has been revised a tad to include a holding spur next to the transfer barge and a run around at the gantry crane spur

I should consider calling this the Spaghetti Central

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Posted by GearDrivenSteam on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:24 PM

Vic, as usual your work is inspiring. I am loving it my friend.

 

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Posted by Grims on Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:42 PM

Ok i went into my serch(which is bing) and typed in folsoms air service DC-3 and found still pics and even a you tube video

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Posted by Grims on Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:19 PM

I will see what i can find it belongs to folsoms air service on moosehead lake in greenville maine.

I saw it in the water and it was impressive I saw it out of the water and its monsterous and im not unacostome to the dc-3 as thats what i got my multi eng. cert in.

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Posted by dwbeckett on Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:46 AM

I would love a Picture of that DC-3. I worked on the Military vershion during The ( my ) war.

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Posted by Grims on Saturday, October 27, 2012 4:36 PM

you could have the best of both worlds up here in maine we have a DC-3 on floats.

moosehead lake to be exact.

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Posted by dwbeckett on Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:01 AM

And where is the airport going, A DC-3 would work or maybe a Plane that just landed in the river........

Have fun

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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:51 AM

Feeling reckless again, big changes in the works, no major change to the layout, but a big change in geography


Here is the Master Plan, I am repurposing the layout as an full-on urban harbor terminal type line,

I have been fighting doing this for a long time, mostly just being pigheaded about keeping the desert theme, but I just could not make it work in my mind all the while the layout plan just screamed urban waterfront, I finally realized that most of my big stuff is not decaled for the Borracho line, just numbered. and that I had alot of stuff than would with very little effort, be convertable to the urban theme layout. what finally did it was reading this site one too many times:

http://www.trainweb.org/bedt/IndustrialLocos.html

One day my mind just clicked (or is that snapped) "yeah, I could do this without any major surgery" so there it is..

The boats will all be movable, just sitting on the surface, the aisleway water will be a fold down section that during ops will be kept down for layout access, and up for photo taking, the biggest single change will be switching from link/pins back to knuckle couplers, probably Bachmann's

Haven't decided on a name yet, but the era will likely be post-war 1950's just before these lines were beginning to disappear.


No name yet, not really worrying about that, some ideas:

Brooklyn South Rwy - keeps the BSR already on some engines

or maybe something a little more unique:

Gotham District Transfer
Gotham Harbor Transfer

As I said, I'm really not in a sweat over the name. So here we go

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Posted by vsmith on Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:04 PM

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Posted by vsmith on Sunday, May 6, 2012 5:55 PM

westy1

i also am doing a indoor layout i find your hindged bridge intresring. How do you pick power back up on unhindged side i have a 3 ft opening to bridge. thanks jim westerfield jwesterfield@neo.rr.com

The layout is powered just like traditional HO track powered layouts. Its broken into several segments or "blocks".Those blocks are controlled via Atlas controllers. Each controller essentially an on/off switch, allows the track power to be individually controlled. I simply use the rail gap like a setof insulated joiners, just minus the joiners. The track layout allows me to wire it just like a point to point layout, the loop just happens to occur along that pathway. The inside rail is continuously power. The only exception being the wye, which is also controlled with an Atlas wye controller. I use a Crest /Aristo Basic Train Engineer r/c control throttle which a time allows hands free track power.

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Posted by westy1 on Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:55 PM

i also am doing a indoor layout i find your hindged bridge intresring. How do you pick power back up on unhindged side i have a 3 ft opening to bridge. thanks jim westerfield jwesterfield@neo.rr.com

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Posted by Stourbridge Lion on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:46 AM

Looks to me things are coming along nicely!!!!!!! Thumbs Up

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