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Lionel S2 Turbine horror story

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Posted by Dave45681 on Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:17 AM
 Deputy wrote:

Hey Dave...have you got any S2 turbines in your collection? Just curious. They really are a great engine. Even the MTH and Williams repros are awesome. A really monstrous beast Big Smile [:D]

Dep,

 None of the nice scale ones like you are talking about.  I do have the Century Club (postwar style but with TMCC, etc) Turbine, but that's it for me.  Maybe someday! :-) 

 

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Posted by Deputy on Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:17 AM

 Ole Timer wrote:
 Add another rip off seller " TRAIN GEEKS " on ebay ! Sold me cars with missing parts and quite a few other people ! Then offered $5.00 for me to try and find the parts and replace them 5 lousey dollars !!!

Ouch! That stinks! Angry [:(!]

Add them to the DO NOT BUY FROM list.

Dep

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Posted by Deputy on Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:52 AM
 Dave45681 wrote:
 Deputy wrote:

Hey Dave...have you got any S2 turbines in your collection? Just curious. They really are a great engine. Even the MTH and Williams repros are awesome. A really monstrous beast Big Smile [:D]

Dep,

 None of the nice scale ones like you are talking about.  I do have the Century Club (postwar style but with TMCC, etc) Turbine, but that's it for me.  Maybe someday! :-) 

 

Holy smokes! I've seen those on E-Bay and they are selling for around $500!!!

 http://cgi.ebay.com/LIONEL-18057-CC-6-8-6-671-S2-PENN-TURBINE-NEW_W0QQitemZ110068818502QQihZ001QQcategoryZ4148QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Are you aware that they made a SPECIAL TENDER for that loco that is identical to the 2046 tender and is marked Pennsylvania? I guess the one that came with it was more like a 671 tender.

Very nice loco!!!! Thumbs Up [tup]

Dep

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Posted by Deputy on Monday, December 18, 2006 11:27 AM

My two postwar S2 turbines need some minor parts replacement and/or repair. I was wondering what the best manual was for a parts list or exploded view with parts numbers? I saw Greenberg's Repair and Operating Manual for Lionel Trains, 1945-1969 (Greenberg's Repair and Operating Manuals)  on Amazon, but one comment was the pages were reduced in size from their original 8 1/2 x 11 to 6x8 and many of the part numbers were unreadable. Not much help for my old eyes Big Smile [:D]

I wondered if any other book is available that list these items in a more readable format? Perhaps from K-Line? Or is there a website where an exploded view of an S2 with part numbers is available?

Dep

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Posted by csxt30 on Monday, December 18, 2006 12:03 PM

Here is a site that has a library of help. They have an extensive parts list & diagrams &  should be of much help.

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/default.htm

also this is a great place too, for help.

http://www.ttender.com/

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Posted by Jumijo on Monday, December 18, 2006 12:14 PM

John,

I see that the giving spirit of the holiday season has overcome you! You're a GOOD and KIND man!  Wink [;)]

Jim 

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Posted by csxt30 on Monday, December 18, 2006 12:24 PM
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John,

I see that the giving spirit of the holiday season has overcome you! You're a GOOD and KIND man!  Wink [;)]

Jim 

Yes, seems I had some help from a simularly (sp?) good & kind FRIEND !! Laugh [(-D]

Now tonight I won't be able to get to sleep from laughung all day !!

Thanks, John 

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Posted by Jumijo on Monday, December 18, 2006 12:34 PM

That's what the forum is all about, John. We all enjoy and help each other as much as we can.

Jim 

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Posted by csxt30 on Monday, December 18, 2006 12:48 PM

Yes Jim !! A place to demonstrate just who we are !!   ( you're killin' me today !! )

Thanks, John 

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Posted by Deputy on Monday, December 18, 2006 1:27 PM
 csxt30 wrote:

Here is a site that has a library of help. They have an extensive parts list & diagrams &  should be of much help.

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/default.htm

also this is a great place too, for help.

http://www.ttender.com/

John

Thank you John. I really appreciate it. Thumbs Up [tup]

To those that may have missed it, might I refer all to a post I made back on 12/12/06. I tried then to apologize, but some folks just won't let go. Here's the thread.

 http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/974598/ShowPost.aspx

Dep

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Posted by csxt30 on Monday, December 18, 2006 1:35 PM
 Deputy wrote:
 csxt30 wrote:

Here is a site that has a library of help. They have an extensive parts list & diagrams &  should be of much help.

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/default.htm

also this is a great place too, for help.

http://www.ttender.com/

John

Thank you John. I really appreciate it. Thumbs Up [tup]

To those that may have missed it, might I refer all to a post I made back on 12/12/06. I tried then to apologize, but some folks just won't let go. Here's the thread.

 http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/974598/ShowPost.aspx

Dep

You're welcome Dep ! We're all learning here & words can be such a weapon today. Or the way we say things.  I do hope those sites help & there are more train repair places also, should you need them.

Thanks, John    

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Posted by Deputy on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:10 PM

Well I ALMOST went for it. It was definitely within my price range, but I let it slip buy...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230064512941&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:12

That's a dang good price for that caboose. I just had a hard time justifying paying it. It's certainly worth a  lot MORE than that. Greenberg shows it at $335 in Excellent condition and this was brand new IN THE BOX. It would have completed my 18010 Turbine set. Ever have that happen where you just can't bring yourself to hit the "buy" button. Ack! I probably screwed up bad Banged Head [banghead]

Dep

 

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Posted by csxt30 on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:34 PM
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Posted by Deputy on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:32 PM
 csxt30 wrote:

2 of those for sale at this site.  425. & 500. $

http://www.trainz.com/marketplace/home.asp?mnustp=comeaboard&itmstp=login&mfgID=undefined

 

LOL...gee thanks John...now I feel MUCH better Dead [xx(]  Laugh [(-D]

On a  brighter note...I did manage to find a Pennsy N8 caboose made by MTH at Strasburg.

http://www.strasburgrailroadstore.com/product_p/mr9813.htm

Not made of brass, but identical model to the one I missed out on. I know it doesn't "complete the set", but it will look nice with the S2. Smile [:)]

Dep

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Posted by lionelflyer on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:38 PM

Deputy,

Just a heads up on the 682's.  A dealer (store) in Northern NJ (now out of business) REGULARLY had his mechanic take 681's and add the linkage to make them 682's.  They also apparently had the rubber stamps to renumber them.  It was almost impossible to tell that they had been modified.  It was perfect work to keep the mechanic busy during the summer doldrums.

 I don't know how many in total that they made, but I would guess in the dozens at least.  Back in the late 80's early 90's it was very hard to sell a 681 for a decent price and 682's were very hard to come by.  This dealer magically always had one or two on his shelf.  As soon as one would sell, another one magically appeared. 

 This is the same dealer who got caught selling a bunch of stolen trains (MINE).  Anyway, just a heads up on the 682's.  You may want to ask a lot of questions from a seller when you come across one.  Real ones really are not common.

LionelFlyer

 

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Posted by Deputy on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:57 PM

Holy Moly!! It's weird that you bring this up. I had already thought about doing a conversion, since all the 682 parts are readily available and there are plenty of 681 locos to be found. This is REALLY bad news, but thanks for letting us know. Thumbs Up [tup]

Dep  

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Posted by Dave45681 on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:11 PM
 Deputy wrote:

Holy smokes! I've seen those on E-Bay and they are selling for around $500!!!

 

Are you aware that they made a SPECIAL TENDER for that loco that is identical to the 2046 tender and is marked Pennsylvania? I guess the one that came with it was more like a 671 tender.

Very nice loco!!!! Thumbs Up [tup]

Dep

 Dep,

 Yes I have the other tender too.   While I forget the list price on this engine (since I (and most people who bought CC items) bought direct from Lionel, what it listed at is what I paid, plus 6% tax) it was a bit more than the $500 mark, not that I plan on selling or anything.

  

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Posted by Deputy on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:27 PM

Dave: There's one on E-Bay right now with a Buy It Now of $495. I'd probably buy it but the guy doesn't take PayPal Sad [:(]

No way I'm sending cash or a money order for that amount. Oh well. Still a pretty cool loco. Like a new version of a 682.

Dep

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