How would you rate Ebay for train purchases overall

[Anonymous]

I was looking on Ebay and they had some good deals. I just wanted to know how well or bad your experiences were. Can you trust a seller with a 0 rating? I tried to buy a lionel MTH UP SD 90 MAC from some woman. I sent her an email to make sure it was lionel and the2000 year model but she didn't know. I didn't buy it because I was not sure.

[Anonymous]

ive had mostly good experiences so far.... i did buy some HO track that turned out to be crap. i also bought a MTH challenger for a great price, it had PS1 sound upgrade that was unlisted which was a plus, but it also had a FUBARd smokeunit that cost me $80 to have repaired..... gosh i hate these new electronics, because i cant fix them!....

everything else i bought was great..... i would never ever buy from someone with 0 feedback or anyone with 2 or more recient bad feedbacks.

[TurboOne]

I learned a lot. I "won" some great deals, trains turned out to be poor to fair in quality. Of course I was buying cheap. [oX)] Always look to see where the item is coming from, it doesn't do any good to win something at $0.99 and pay $100 shipping as you are in nebraska and its coming from China. Read everything carefully, so that you know exactly what you are bidding on. Also I read the positives and the negatives. Sometimes the negatives are retaliation between buyer and seller, nothing bad, just words. Don't overpay. Too many people bid more than if you went to your LHS and just bought it.

Enjoy and bid smartly.

Tim

[laz 57]

Not bad rating for Ebay. I, like Tim have gotten some good deals like my Lionel beer cars all except the Coors car were under 45 bucks. They list in Greenbergs for under that but if you want the cars they are out there to get. Most people that sell are pretty good to deal with I usually look for the rating of a seeler anything under 97% , I will usually pass on. Also ask questions and ask if they are TCA members, this sometimes helps.
laz57

[Anonymous]

I like eBay and have bought many items, including expensive items through eBay.
In my opinion the key to successful transactions are: 1. Good communications between the bidder and seller. 2. Understanding completely the seller's auction description and what you are bidding on and it's suggested retail price. 3. Understanding the seller's shipping & return policy. 4. Don't bid emotionally.

Be very warry of any seller with zero feedback.

Hope this helps.
BillFromWayne
www.modeltrainjournal.com

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BillFromWayne

I like eBay and have bought many items, including expensive items through eBay.
In my opinion the key to successful transactions are: 1. Good communications between the bidder and seller. 2. Understanding completely the seller's auction description and what you are bidding on and it's suggested retail price. 3. Understanding the seller's shipping & return policy. 4. Don't bid emotionally.

Be very warry of any seller with zero feedback.

Hope this helps.
BillFromWayne
www.modeltrainjournal.com

I would like to humbly add to this that do your research, there are alot of products on ebay that you can get at the hobby store or mail order. Know what you are dealing with for example a Athearn Box car should have all it's parts and not have a asking price of 20 dollars unless there are two or more in the set.

Communicate questions during the time the auction is on going. I am communicating about a specific ore car set with a seller on ebay and it has 5 days to go.. I have plent y of time to decide if I will buy this item and for what price.

Once you decide on a price that is hopefully lower than retail or a price that is the MAXIMUM you will pay then the last day of the auction is the time to bid. Beware that snipers (**raises hand...I confess my guilt) will try to snatch the item away

I have a soft spot for sellers willing to ship free, at a flat rate or multiple items on one price. If there are anything that you dont understand about the item and seller has not responded then dont bid and hopefully a similar item may come around down the road.

Good Luck

[tjsprague]

Be careful of 0 feedbacks. My neice got taken for a few hundred dollars on a "to-good-to-be-true" deal on an iPod.

As far as trains go, probably half of my collection came from ebay. And I've sold quite a bit this past year too. I always try to be honest, pointing out, and photographing flaws. And I state that I'm a TCA member. People seem to appreciate it. In some cases I've sold things far above what I thought I'd get for them, other times things went for far less. That's the auction game.

I'd sugghest making usre the photos are clear, or assk for more. And ask about any details, along with a return policy for misrepresented items. Some sellers claime to "know notheing about trains", but they seem to know the Greenberg values.

Also, if you see negative feedbacks, check out the details. Personally, I've got 2 in the last year. One was the result of a seller sending me a repaint, then ignoring my emails for 3 weeks, the other was a buyer who did not respond to my request for payment. I felt it was better for me to give the negative, thus risking one in return, so others would know what these folks were like. To me that's more important than protecting my pristine feedback rating.

Have fun!

Tim

[Anonymous]

I have won bids on seven O gauge locomotives- a Marx 999 that runs like new, a lionel Alco FA that runs well, a Lionel 246 that doesn't run at all, a Marx 21 that only hums, another Marx 21 that only runs in reverse and 2 Marx 21s that are dummies but look good.
Beware of the seller that states in the ad "I have no way to test so I can't guarantee". You can bet the farm they are looking to unload a piece of junk.

[Anonymous]

Hello All: Bought a lot , Found a lot of peices you can't find in hobby stores, check the item description carefully, check feedback, overall I have been happy with all transaction's. Have a Great day Steve

[Anonymous]

My experience has been good, with the exception of one purchase of track and switches. There are 5 rules that I follow.

1. Do not buy any item unless the seller states the condition. If the seller says it is untested, you have to assume it doesn't work. it the listing is just a picture with no description of condition, ask what the condition the item is in. If you don't get a satisfactory reply, don't bid.

2. If the seller has ANY negative feedback read it. Look for any consistancy in the negative feedbacks. If you see multiple complaints along the same line, be very wary. You have to realize that most people are very reluctant to give negative feedback, because the seller (especially if they are unethical) will nearly always retaliate with their own negative feedback. Because of this you need to be careful, even of someone with a 98 or 99% positive rating. One way to sort this out legitimate negatives from bogus ones is to drill down and look at the feedback of the person who left the negative comment. If they are a chronic complainer, you can usually pick up an indication.

3. If shipping is not specifically stated, ask. There are sellers who make more on the shipping than the items. If you "win" a bid without knowing the shipping charge, you are obligated to pay whatever the seller charges.

4. If you have any doubts, ask the seller a question, any question. If you don't get a fairly rapid and polite response, don't bid on their item. A seller who is too busy to answer questions is likely to be even harder to communicate with after the sale.

5. Check the price of an item at one or two of the on-line stores and in e-Bay Completed Items before you bid. This can provide a gauge of how hard to find the item is as well as giving you a reasonable top price to bid.

One other comment, there are a LOT of people watching what's for sale on e-Bay. If you see a price that looks too good to be true, it probably is. Doesn't mean you can't get a good deal, but if it looks like a really great deal, you need to figure out what's scaring off everyone else.

[Anonymous]

I haven't puchased much on Ebay to date, but was able to purchase a Marklin HO E40 electric loco w/dgtl horn that was only available in a large set. The seller offered the set components as individual sale items. I got the engine for a great price! I'm happy! I love to window shopping on Ebay too. You never know what you'll find!

[Dr. John]

A great deal of my train collection was purchased on Ebay and I feel that I've made some good deals (and one or two not so good). I would hesitate before bidding much on an item from a seller with a "0" rating. It's your money, so be careful. Do your homework, place your bid and good luck!

[jimhaleyscomet]

I have purchased some junk (which shipping cost made not a deal) and have gotten a very few great deals. Ebay seems to often get more for stuff than it would sell for at a local hobby shop or trian show. However Ebay does have the widest selection. If you have money and want a scarce piece now Ebay is an option. If it is a new item and relatively available elsewhere you can often do better at the online mail order train sellers or even your local dealer.

So I rate Ebay as a 5 out of 10 overall for purchases. I do not get much from Ebay anymore.

Jim H

[tgovebaker]

I have had only good experiences with eBay, but am always wary of the risks. In fact, I think I know which woman the first poster is referring to. She recently posted about 60 auctions, most of which were for "like new" Lionel locomotives. I had been looking for a while for a pair of Rio Grande SD-50s, and she was offering two of them. Before I had a chance to think through what I was doing, I had bid on both. It was only then that I realized she had a zero feedback rating. I guess I should not have been surprised to learn that she only accepts checks or money orders.

I wound up winning the auctions, and subsequently had to send payment. Before doing so, I attempted to contact her for more information, but consistently did not get a response. Finally, in desperation, I had to go through eBay to get her contact information. This process automatically sends a notice to the seller, which did result in an invoice with a name and address.

I am not confident that I will ever see the merchandise in question, but I'll keep you posted (and will gladly apologize to the seller if proven wrong).

The good news, such as it is, is that eBay does have a seller protection program that will repay defrauded buyers up to $200 per transaction, minus a $25 fee. The worst that can happen is that I will be out $50, which is better than being out $300.

The lesson: don't bid on anything unless you are confident that the seller is credible. If you can't control yourself, under no circumstances should you bid more thant $200, because you can't get it back. Finally, make sure you know what resources are available to you through eBay's buyer protection program, and keep a detailed record of the transaction process in case you need to file a complaint.

Wish me luck...

[Anonymous]

Yeah the woman or person had a lot of items for sale. Her descriptions were as follows "It has ran for about 15 hrs". She had no pictures of her products and did not accept paypal. I was suspicious also. I do wish you luck.

[Anonymous]

Didn't realize they have a protection program.... but having been very active on eBay the last 3 months, getting into the hobby, have gotten all my trains either directly on eBay, or from dealers who happen to sell on eBay----- especially go to their "See sellers other products", or their eBay store.... also found dealers thru Google by product wanted....and found this site that way....

Several of my purchases were from an initial eBay contact which lead to my dealing directly with the seller - (Shhhhh) - tried to stick with dealers and individuals with excellent feedbacks.

[Dr.Fu-Manchu]

The Doctor is In !!! I have bought items for my collection and items to fix and resell. I have done well so far. I bought a SP box car new in box and got it for less than the price in the Greenburg price book. I had one bad deal, I bid and won an SP caboose from an east coast shop(antique shop, i think) They were hard to get in touch with, did not know
what I was buying from them. I had to trace the postal m.o. I got a refund and gave up.
They struck me as people I did not want to deal with. Buyer Beware! I also have found items that were cheaper on Ebay than the train shows. Bottom Line, More Winners Than Losers ! Till My Next Missive, I Remain The Humble, Yet Strangly Evil Doctor !!! [}:)]

[Anonymous]

I buy things occasionally from Ebay. I just sold all my HO stuff on it, racking up a good sum of $45. I, myself is a good horse trader, I get much better deals at swap meets. I think they are more fun then Ebay too. You can touch, hold, examine and even sometimes test the trains sometimes. I like Ebay, but I would not be to dependent on it.

Just my [2c] .

[Frank53]

I've bought and sold coins on ebay, and have not yet had a bad experience. I have looked at lots of trains, but have yet to buy because of the numerous wild cards. Does it work? What if it doesn't? Coins are certified and rarely do you end up sending one back, trains that don't work are another story.

Also, shipping is going to be a nightmare. I looked at a number of cars that I felt would give me nice sets of rolling stock at reasonable prices, only to see flat $8.00, $10.00 and $12.00 per car shipping charges.

Like in coins, I would stil prefer to buy from fellow train folk on forums like this via a buy/sel/trade board.

[Dave Farquhar]

Depending on what it is you like, Ebay may be your best outlet to buy stuff. I know a lot of Marx collectors who built 90% of their collections off Ebay, because you just don't see much Marx at swap meets and the like. It's good for the obscure manufacturers too--you may see a handful of Bing or Dorfan auctions each week on Ebay. Chances are you don't get very many chances locally to buy that kind of stuff.

But if your tastes run more toward the modern, the deals are harder to find. By the time you factor in shipping it might be cheaper to just buy it at the local hobby shop. Or you could always just mail-order it and know exactly what it's going to cost up front. The deals on modern stuff tend to be on the low-end pieces from set break-ups, and chances are you're not going to be as interested in those.

The more your tastes tend towards the modern, the less you'll like Ebay, I'm betting. Since I like the old stuff and I generally enjoy fixing it (as long as I didn't pay a premium for a working item that didn't, that is) I buy a lot on Ebay.

[Anonymous]

Hi Frank-you say you are into coins, my grandmother gave me several old coins
a long time ago, nickles, dimes, quqrters, halves and silver dollars and a couple
of bills. How do you go about finding value of these. Don't want to go to pawn
shop, or maybe you can help.
Thanks[:)][:)]

[palallin]

I've bought and sold on eBay. I've studied eBay, too (for an article that I wrote on on-line auctions--a much smaller subject at the time!--for CTT). My experiences has been almost universally positive. When I've sold, one buyer backed out of the deal. Some pieces went cheap, some went for more than I'd thought. When I've bought, I've gotten less that I expected twice, one time having been my inattention and one time having been seller ignorance. Each of those problems was resolved to my satisfaction.

Something upward of 75% of my trains are eBay purchases; without eBay, I'm nearly dead in the water, lost out here without a local train dealer ("local" being operationally defined as closer than 100 miles away).

[Anonymous]

Just adding a couple cents.
I buy only pre-war Lionel on e-bay (so far). I recently purchased a 1933 Lionel 259 which was described as "does not run." So, I got it fairly cheap. When it arrived, I found the reason it didn't run. The e-unit lever was in neutral. I threw the level up, and the thing sped off down the test track.

I guess the moral of the story is to be very careful and don't expect the sellers to be collectors or experts. Also, be wary of the pictures. Or should I say, what's NOT in the pictures. If there is a portion of the item never shown in pictures, assume it's the worst portion and something is not right with it. I realize this is a negative attitude, but I say better safe than sorry. There are wonderful people, selling wonderful things on e-bay that they simply have no use for anymore. But there are just as many people of the opposite type.

Good luck and happy hunting.
T

[Frank53]

QUOTE: Originally posted by expogs6

Hi Frank-you say you are into coins, my grandmother gave me several old coins
a long time ago, nickles, dimes, quqrters, halves and silver dollars and a couple
of bills. How do you go about finding value of these. Don't want to go to pawn
shop, or maybe you can help.
Thanks[:)][:)]

Expo - soory for not responding to this sooner. Send me an email at [e-mail]. I will give you an idea of what you may have.

[hsaxon]

Guess I'll chime in but only to echo the good advice others have already given. Caveat emptor-always. Most of the e-bayers are honest and friendly folks. Shipping can really bite, so look hard at the costs. Clearly some folks appear to be "selling" you shipping services with a cheap product thrown in to justify the way they make their money. Pay attention to ratings. Good ocassional source of scarce prewar stock and parts. Most offerings run long enough for you to ask questions and do research. The real bidding happens in the last hour before the sale closes anyway.

[underworld]

You have to know what you are bidding on. Don't get into a bidding war and don't bid too much. READ the entire ad including any bits about shipping and payment. I've found some things that I've not seen anywhere else. I've gotten some Ok deals and some good deals. You just have to be aware of what's going on. I give ebay a 10.

[powernailer]

This is a super question? I myself do buy and I do sell on Ebay, but I can't say that ever seller out there is totally honest, we're there to sell and hopfully make a few bucks. I have had a little trouble with a couple of items and with no recourse. What I consider in good condition, might be very good to others. If I am to buy new, I'm back to a dealer that I can trust and get service. The dealers need our business, we need their service (electronics?). Most are willing to bargain a little, and if not, it's our money, our choice if we buy or not. My dealer takes good care of me and has helped me find parts I need. It doesn't get any better than that..

[tgovebaker]

Ok, as promised, it is time for my public apology to eBay member debbi391. As noted when this thread began, a few weeks ago a large lot of O guage trains were listed for sale on eBay by debbi391, but with some ominous characteristics: debbi391 had received no feedback; none of the listed items had photos; the description for nearly every item was the same (as macaste noted earlier). Normally this is a recipe for disaster, and I expected I had made an error.

Today I received both of the engines that I ordered -- two Rio Grande SD-50s in their original boxes, with the original paperwork. The engines are in great shape, and were purchased for what, ultimately, was a great, great price. Thus, to debbi391, I am sorry for doubting you.

Check Sunday photo fun for pictures of the new engines in action.

[Anonymous]

Wow now I wish I could have gotten the sd 90mac she had for sale. I'm glad
tgovebaker got a good deal.

[underworld]

Everybody starts with zero......sometimes you just have to take a chance.
Congratulations on your cool purchase!!!!!
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