As long as I posted the #2679 with the Baby Ruth herald, let me add the #2679 with the candy bar graphic.
Here they are together.
Their lineage obviously shows that they use the same Ives body with different graphics and different couplers.
I think I'm doomed.
Enjoying the World's Greatest Hobby
Northwoods Flyer
The Northwoods Flyer Collection
of
American Flyer Trains
"The Toy For the Boy"
It always surprised me though that Lionel chose not to use the Ives stockcar. Maybe they didn't want to do the cut-outs?
Same me, different spelling!
Remember a number of entries back when I posted a photo of the #1679 Ives/Lionel transition box car?
I was commenting on the amount of mileage that Lionel got out of the acquisition of the Ives tinplate line. Look what happened.
It appears that I have started down a slippery slope.
1679
Another 1679, note the coupler and trucks
and here is the 2679
pennytrainsBut my own version of the "Beast of the East" remains!
You saved the Blockbuster! Outstanding!
I'm still looking. Didn't find one at the last show but I DID get the Dreyfuss, so I can't complain.
Northwoods FlyerPenny, Do you suppose that a previous owner swapped out the trucks? I feel sad when I think that you had to downsize your collection so drastically. Will your new dwelling place allow you to have some space to follow your hobby? At least you have photos and the amazing videos that you produced. I know that until I get a new layout up and running (tentatively named the Arrowhead Division of American Flyer Lines) I will miss the Blueboard Central Division of American Flyer Lines. At least I have photos.
No doubt the trucks had been swapped. If it had been done at Lionel to sell of prewar equipment after 1946, it would have had bar-end trucks. But I'm also guessing it was done at a Lionel Service Station because whoever did it, did a very good job:
Wherever I end up living I kept a lot of goodies to have fun with. I kept this little resto I did:
I kept my 259:
I'll still be running Standard Gauge:
Kept all my street lamps and these glitter trees too:
Kept this little beauty too:
But the plane, the brick viaduct and the board itself are gone.
But my own version of the "Beast of the East" remains!
And it will run under this tree around these Plasticville buildings:
So, I'm going back to my roots and I guess you could say I'll be "specializing".
pennytrains 1682's aint' s'posed ta have staple end trucks!
1682's aint' s'posed ta have staple end trucks!
Penny,
Do you suppose that a previous owner swapped out the trucks?
I feel sad when I think that you had to downsize your collection so drastically. Will your new dwelling place allow you to have some space to follow your hobby? At least you have photos and the amazing videos that you produced. I know that until I get a new layout up and running (tentatively named the Arrowhead Division of American Flyer Lines) I will miss the Blueboard Central Division of American Flyer Lines.
At least I have photos.
This one got sold:
Here is a comparison shot of the 16XX freight cars from the Ives/Lionel transition era. On the top we have the Lionel versions and on the bottom the Ives versions. As mentioned in the posts above the stock car was not carried over from the Ives line to the Lionel line.
Northwoods FlyerWell done Jon! Its nice to see that there are still some treasures to be found out there. Thanks for posting your newest finds. At the rate you are acquiring tinplate trains you are well on your way to becoming a Titan of Tinplate.
Thanks! I got really lucky to find these in such good shape! Here is a link to a video of the engine after I rewired it and fixed the R\C function.
Well done Jon!
Its nice to see that there are still some treasures to be found out there. Thanks for posting your newest finds. At the rate you are acquiring tinplate trains you are well on your way to becoming a Titan of Tinplate.
The next car in the Lionel/Ives transition 16XX freight cars is the #1682 Caboose
pennytrains BONANZA!
BONANZA!
Time for a musical interlude?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksbP3Amjxug
I haven't posted here in a bit but I just had to share this on the forum. I lucked into a couple of Wide Gauge Flyers this weekend. I answered an ad on FB Marketplace for a nice looking 4021 deluxe caboose and a 4022 machine car. I asked the seller if she had any other Flyer items but got no reply. When I got there she had the Ives transition 4694 and golden state tender on the table next to the cars! Then she told me she had a boxed set which I soon found out was this beautiful Brigadier set with an extra car, all in the individual boxes and in beautiful shape! The 4644 R\C needs some rewiring before it will run but the 4694 started right up. Have a great weekend!
Jon
pennytrains A peacock roofed 1679 (or is irt a 2679?) is one of the first tinplate cars I actively sought. Needless to say it survived my downsizing and remains in my collection.
A peacock roofed 1679 (or is irt a 2679?) is one of the first tinplate cars I actively sought. Needless to say it survived my downsizing and remains in my collection.
I'm glad to hear that your tinplate car with a very long heritage will be staying in your collection. Thanks too for reminding me about the 2679. I will have to go looking for my example. It just shows how well used that body style was.
It is amazing how much mileage that Lionel got out of the Ives designed box car #1679.
I just acquired a 4th version of the #1679. This one is also in the Lionel livery and advertising Baby Ruth candy bars.
The family grows.
Here is the Ives 1679 and two of the Lionel versions using the same body and number.
Welcome Hoffman,
I assume that you are referring to one of the early postings in this thread. What color Lionel 600 series car do you have?
I am not a collector of the 600-series Lionel but I have one of these cars - I have always loved the color combo on this since I was a teenager (30 years ago) and finally found one in a box of stuff at a yard sale. Not in superb shape, but reasonable.
This is my first Lionel standard gauge engine and tender. A beautiful 400e and 400t. I figured go big or go home. The only blemmish is the frame has been pinned just behind the 400e emblem on the boiler and a few small paint chips. Now I need to save up for some 200 rolling stock .
Jon,
Nice Marx tin accessory. I always enjoy adding tinplate accessories from other manufacturers to the tinplate empire.
Here is another tinplate car from Ives that Lionel did not carry over into their line. It is interesting that they didn't carry over the stock cars in either of their transition sets featuring Ives cars.
1678 Stock car
Not a train accessory but 100% tinplate, here is a cool Marx Sky Flyer wind up toy circa 1937 I saw in a recent online auction. I thought it would go well with my wide gauge Flyers and in the near future will find a permanent place on my layout. It does work when you wind the plane the propeller turns as should but I'm not sure about the balance. If anyone has info on it I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
1680 Tank car in Ives and Lionel Livery
There are also other freight cars that were produced in the Lionel/Ives transition era.
Lets start with the #1677 in Ives and Lionel livery.
Putting the two transition era sets together in a comparison shot we have Lionel on the upper track and Ives on the lower track.
In this number range of cars in the Lionel/Ives transition era there is one car that Lionel did not duplicate in its own livery, although they did use the Lionel coupler on the Ives branded car.
This is the Ives 1708 cattle car.
Yes the #2640 cars are lighted. At least mine are.
Northwoods, are these cars lighted? The Lionel 2640 and 2641, that is. I have a set of them but no lights or pickups are installed.
Fife,
They are handsome looking cars. I like the fact that Lionel used the cars and graphics for a while. Its too bad that they never came with Ives couplers.
Here are the cabooses from the Lionel/Ives transition era.
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