Baffling Caboose.

[Juan2L]

Howdy, from Sunny Florida.

Maybe one of you guys with vast Lionel experience, may be able to solve my Caboose identification problem.  It's a Conrail Extended Vision Caboose with a side number of 22133, buit in 2000.  It does not have a Smoke generator.  I saw one in E-bay, wich was mis-identified and also had the wrong product number - Greenberg's pocket guide has that number as something else.

I guess if people can't find the truth - they just make it up.

This year"s catalogue has a similar Caboose, with the same side number - but it is a "S" gauge car.  This car is  "O" gauge - I measured the truck's wheel separation. 

I got the Caboose at a local train show a while back and the price felt right. The Car is in excellent condition - but the box (May not be the correct box for the car) lacks the mistery number.  Since Lionel does not answer historical product questions (Or have a historical department with knowledgeable computer GEEKS) ..... I have to rely on you guys to help me out.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Juan

 

[Eriediamond]

OK. your Caboose is a Conrail class N20, built Aug, 1970. Originally owned by the Reading RR. The side number is the number of the full size caboose it was modeled after, not the product number. That's why that same number is on the S scale car you saw. The Reading RR number was 94106.  Hope this helps. I got my info from a site -- www.rr-fallenflags.org   Hope this is what you are looking for. Ken

[Train-O]

Juan,

I ran into a couple of mysteries, awhile ago and the C.T.T. Forum members were of great help.

First mystery: I have a Lionel, 'C & O Ry.' cab. with a road number that I could not find a prototypical photo. of.

C.T.T. Forum members advised me that some of these manufactures model after actual rolling stock, which is no longer present, or has a RR. and number change.

Second mystery: I have a one piece Lionel #6-7303, 'Erie RR.' bi-level stock car road #7303, made in 1984, marked on it's individual box is 'Erie-Lackawanna,' though the car has 'Erie' marked on it.

I thought that it's old 'E.RR.' rolling stock and 'E.-L. RR.' was still using it, as is.

The actual reason is that Lionel made in 1984 a 'Erie-Lackawanna Limited Set.'

Lionel might have been imitating real life, because the engine is a SD-40 'E.-L. RR.' diesel and the stock car, which is part of the set, is marked 'E. RR.'

As, it turns out my one piece came from a broken-up set, but try and figured this out, without the help of knowledgeable people.

These, little mysteries are part of what makes model railroading fun.

Ralph

[phillyreading]

Juan2L,

I have the 2010 version of the Greenberg's Price guide, and many items made by Lionel are not listed. Is it possible this item was sold through a department store like Target or Walmart? Because I find that Target store items are not listed in the Greenberg's Price guide.

I am glad that somebody else, though, was able to help you identify your caboose.

Lee F.

[Juan2L]

Thanks for the info - and also the web site.  More things to learn...... and the quest continues.....