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1835E Lionel train w/box

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1835E Lionel train w/box
Posted by bully on Saturday, March 7, 2009 9:46 PM

Hi Gang ,

I am new to this forum and would like some help for you people . My Father gave me some Lionel trains in there boxes and iwould sure like to know more about them and there value .

 

Thanks in advance

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Posted by wyomingscout on Sunday, March 8, 2009 5:32 PM

Bully,

Welcome to the forum.  Can you supply more info?  Numbers on cars, engines, etc.  There are guys out here who know something about just about anything.

wyomingscout

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Posted by bully on Sunday, March 8, 2009 6:23 PM
Thank you so much for your help.
 
The numbers are .......1835E - steam engine (broke) with the box and the paper that was stuffed in the box
                                1835T  (broke) with the box
                                309 , 310 , 312 all w/boxes
                                 212 w/box and has wooden barrels with
I also have a box from a transformer ............T on the box   There is some parts in that box but not sure of what .
 
THANKS again for you assistance .
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Posted by lionelsoni on Sunday, March 8, 2009 6:32 PM

The 1835 is a standard gauge (2 1/8 inches) 2-4-2 (columbia) with a reversing unit, made 1934-39, worth $470 to $730 in good to excellent condition.

The 309, and 310, and 312 are pullman, baggage, and observation cars made in 1926-39, worth $100-$200 each, depending on color.

The 212 is a gondola made in 1926-40, worth $75-$200, depending on color.

The T transformer, made in 1914-28, is rated at 100 watts and worth $10-$30.

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Posted by bully on Sunday, March 8, 2009 6:49 PM

THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!

The engine is not in good shape . It is broken in peices so is it worth anything then ? I also have the tinder ( spelling) with it and that is in pieces .

309,310 and 312 are blue and in good shape .

The 212 is green and in good shape with the barrels .

We dont have the transformer we just have the box .

All the boxes are in good shape , flaps are all there . They are just discolored .

 We plan on going to a train show this weekend and see what they tell us . This will be very different for me . I am a dog show person ...........lol

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Posted by dwiemer on Sunday, March 8, 2009 7:58 PM

You may be surprised with what a good Lionel Service Center can do with restoration.  Might be pricey, but if you have any sentimental value in these, it may be worth it.  Let us know about where you live.  Lots of folks spread out all over here, so perhaps we can direct you to someone that can help with restoration.   
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Posted by bully on Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:14 PM

We are from Pennsylvania ( Schuylkill County ) . The set has no sentimental value to my husband . His father gave it to him and a friend had given it to his father because he owed him money .......lol

Any help is appreciated .

 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:15 PM

For the passenger cars, medium blue with a dark blue roof is $170-$280 for good to excellent.  Pale blue with a silver roof is $100-$185.

For the green 212, $100-205.

You should understand that dealers will not give you more than about half the retail value--that's how they make their money.

"Tender"

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Posted by bully on Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:29 PM

The colors are medium blue with dark blue roof . Is that price for all 3 or a piece ?  I think I might understand this .......lol  Maybe we would be better to put them on ebay ???

I cant thank you enough for all your help

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Posted by lionelsoni on Monday, March 9, 2009 7:47 AM

The prices are for each car.  The "good" condition means "scratched, small dents, and dirty"; "excellent" means "minute scratches or nicks, exceptionally clean".

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Posted by DMUinCT on Monday, March 9, 2009 8:49 AM

bully

THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!

The engine is not in good shape . It is broken in peices so is it worth anything then ? I also have the tinder ( spelling) with it and that is in pieces .

309,310 and 312 are blue and in good shape .

The 212 is green and in good shape with the barrels .

We dont have the transformer we just have the box .

All the boxes are in good shape , flaps are all there . They are just discolored .

 We plan on going to a train show this weekend and see what they tell us . This will be very different for me . I am a dog show person ...........lol

  Your Engine and Tender (tends to the water and coal for the locomotive) has Die-Cast frames, locomotive wheels, cowcatcher, and other parts.  Made in the 1930s, a lot of the Zink castings failed over time due to production problems. REPLACEMENT PARTS ARE MADE FOR ALL THE CAST PARTS, the locomotive has value to someone who likes restoring old trains for himself or for sale.

  The value of a restored Locomotive and Tender (always sold as a pair) is about 1/2 the value of an excellent original.  Selling on E-Bay, the value to a person who wanted to restore and keep it would be 1/2 the value of an Original minus the cost of the Replacement Parts needed.  If he was going to re-sell it, he would have to buy it even cheaper.   If selling on E-Bay include photos of the broken parts, its  value is still high enough to sell.  Never "junk" a 70 year old toy train, even the parts have value. 

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Posted by bully on Monday, March 9, 2009 9:16 AM

Don , thanks for your reply . We live in Orwigsburg , Pa can someone point us in the direction of a restoration place close to us ? 

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Posted by phillyreading on Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:45 AM

What Bob N. mentioned about dealers not giving you much money for an item is so true! You might get up to 45% of their value from a dealer. I go to a lot of train shows and sell stuff, sometimes buy stuff at trains shows. For the set of passenger cars you have somebody may give you as high as $180.00. If you are looking for high dollar, try selling them on ebay, you will need to post a photo of them on ebay as well.

I wanted to buy a set of two Pennsylvania passenger cars($100.00) but the dealer wouldn't come down even a dollar, so I thought to myself let him take them home! Instead I got a great deal on a set of Atlas Amtrac passenger cars, three car set for $75.00. I am mentioning this just to let you know how differant dealers can be, some nice about prices others stubborn on prices.

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Posted by bully on Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:46 AM

Thanks Lee for your info and I will sure look out for the dealers . We were offered $700 so far for the set so I guess that isnt to bad .

 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:42 PM

Going by your descriptions, I would say that's a very good offer.  I would grab it.

Bob Nelson

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