Using Two Cab-1's?

[HopperSJ]

I see mentioned in a few places people using multiple cab-1 controlers on the same layout. Is there anything special needed to do this? The TMCC manual that I found online says nothing about how to set up multiple Cab-1's with a single command base, but I assume it is possible. I am looking to have multple opperators running separate trains on the same mainline/block. This seems to be common practice for some people, yes? Is it as simple as assigning different engines to different cab-1's?

[rtraincollector]

From what I understand thats it just have to cab 1 controllers

[dougdagrump]

That is correct, you can operate as many Cab-1's on a Command Base as you want. The only thing you MUST be aware of is the individual who mite have an sense of humour and take great delight in messing with your mind.

The only real issue is not duplicating engine or train(lashup) Id's. 

[chuck]

The only issues arrise when someone starts pirating away someone else's train.  There is no locking mechanism and last command output to a device wins.

[rtraincollector]

thats why you have halt button

[kpolak]

If you do have one of these 'friends' operating with you, make sure you number the train in tyhe controller with something other than the obvious, IE If your train is numbered 675, don't name it 67 or 75.

Kurt

[rtraincollector]

Most clubs I've been to if your caught doing so your not allowed to come back, And you forfeit all paid dues to that point. Now by mistke or unknowing different case but usually all make sure theres no dublicating numbers before we run and make sure theres no engines near by with same numbers either as that can cause problems even if not on the track.   As we all know the halt button kills all trains running.

[HopperSJ]

Most clubs I've been to if your caught doing so your not allowed to come back, And you forfeit all paid dues to that point.

WOW! I think I'll just send my son to his room if he does it. Kicking him out forever might be a bit harsh. On the other hand...these are trains we're talking about...

[rtraincollector]

Reason being is that a lot of the trains running are the ones that have these $$ engines you know the ones we never could afford lol that and I've seen some get real hot over issues like that at clubs. Now you were talking about your son forgot as I was replying to some others who where talking about other people and yes sending to the room works as when I was a kid it would of been the belt but we don't use that in todays world anymore.

[J. Daddy]

If you do have one of these 'friends' operating with you, make sure you number the train in tyhe controller with something other than the obvious, IE If your train is numbered 675, don't name it 67 or 75.

Kurt

Hey Kurt. Especially if your running your new U.P. HS-14 that you just bought and loaned the controls to a friend to run your new engine.... I thought that train was going to take flight, thankfully nothing and no-one got hurt...I never pushed so many buttons so quick in my life.... after Jim got us on that one I change all my loco numbers the next day!

my layout is taking shape, have pictures to post soon. Are you going to the Sun. train show in Allen Park this Sunday?

Talk to you soon.

[dougdagrump]

If you do have one of these 'friends' operating with you, make sure you number the train in tyhe controller with something other than the obvious, IE If your train is numbered 675, don't name it 67 or 75.

Kurt

Hey Kurt. Especially if your running your new U.P. HS-14 that you just bought and loaned the controls to a friend to run your new engine.... I thought that train was going to take flight, thankfully nothing and no-one got hurt...I never pushed so many buttons so quick in my life.... after Jim got us on that one I change all my loco numbers the next day!

my layout is taking shape, have pictures to post soon. Are you going to the Sun. train show in Allen Park this Sunday?

Talk to you soon.

That's why I like to keep a "Maximum Voltage Setting" set at a reasonable level. 

[J. Daddy]

If you do have one of these 'friends' operating with you, make sure you number the train in tyhe controller with something other than the obvious, IE If your train is numbered 675, don't name it 67 or 75.

Kurt

Hey Kurt. Especially if your running your new U.P. HS-14 that you just bought and loaned the controls to a friend to run your new engine.... I thought that train was going to take flight, thankfully nothing and no-one got hurt...I never pushed so many buttons so quick in my life.... after Jim got us on that one I change all my loco numbers the next day!

my layout is taking shape, have pictures to post soon. Are you going to the Sun. train show in Allen Park this Sunday?

Talk to you soon.

That's why I like to keep a "Maximum Voltage Setting" set at a reasonable level. 

yeah but when your on a club layout sometimes your not sure what the voltage is set at, and it seems my F3 take all of 18v plus some....

[dougdagrump]

If you are running TMCC you can set the maximum voltage, re speed, that the loco will run. It limits the voltage that the TMCC allows to pass thru to the motors regardless of the amount of track voltage, once set it is remembered and will be active whenever and wherever you run as long as a TMCC signal is present. Almost as good as sliced bread, . 

[J. Daddy]

If you are running TMCC you can set the maximum voltage, re speed, that the loco will run. It limits the voltage that the TMCC allows to pass thru to the motors regardless of the amount of track voltage, once set it is remembered and will be active whenever and wherever you run as long as a TMCC signal is present. Almost as good as sliced bread, . 

How do you do that? I was surfing through the instruction manual and did not see it...

[dbaker48]

I believe it is described in the TMCC manual.

[dougdagrump]

If you are running TMCC you can set the maximum voltage, re speed, that the loco will run. It limits the voltage that the TMCC allows to pass thru to the motors regardless of the amount of track voltage, once set it is remembered and will be active whenever and wherever you run as long as a TMCC signal is present. Almost as good as sliced bread, . 

How do you do that? I was surfing through the instruction manual and did not see it...

This only applies to a TMCC controlled loco, although if you operate a conventional engine using a TPC they have something very similar.

To set max speed:

1. engine on track w/TMCC and power on,

2. address engine for start-up,

3. press "boost button" on CAB-1 (check to verify headlight flasing)

4. using throttle on CAB-1 get engine moving to desired speed and press "set button"

5. you should hear a horn/whistle sound confirming setting.

6. to clear, at idle, press "set" then "boost" holding each aprox. one second. 

I make use of this feature whenever I let a guest at the museum use the CAB-1 to operate one of my trains, if they show a great deal of interest during conversation or if they are already an operator who has never tried TMCC.

If you have an engine that has had TAS's EOB added it is my understanding that the "Max Speed Setting" is no longer an available feature.

Hope this helps.

[J. Daddy]

If you are running TMCC you can set the maximum voltage, re speed, that the loco will run. It limits the voltage that the TMCC allows to pass thru to the motors regardless of the amount of track voltage, once set it is remembered and will be active whenever and wherever you run as long as a TMCC signal is present. Almost as good as sliced bread, . 

How do you do that? I was surfing through the instruction manual and did not see it...

This only applies to a TMCC controlled loco, although if you operate a conventional engine using a TPC they have something very similar.

To set max speed:

1. engine on track w/TMCC and power on,

2. address engine for start-up,

3. press "boost button" on CAB-1 (check to verify headlight flasing)

4. using throttle on CAB-1 get engine moving to desired speed and press "set button"

5. you should hear a horn/whistle sound confirming setting.

6. to clear, at idle, press "set" then "boost" holding each aprox. one second. 

I make use of this feature whenever I let a guest at the museum use the CAB-1 to operate one of my trains, if they show a great deal of interest during conversation or if they are already an operator who has never tried TMCC.

If you have an engine that has had TAS's EOB added it is my understanding that the "Max Speed Setting" is no longer an available feature.

Hope this helps.

Ah! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you... I will try when I get home tonight...

[dougdagrump]

Just a reminder, at some future date don't forget about having set the max speed and start swearing at the loco/TMCC/transformer about non-performance.

Been there, done that......................