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Track spiraling down a mountain
Posted by Wes Whitmore on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:09 AM

I'm looking for pictures of layouts that have tracks hugging the cliffs of a mountain.  Does anyone have any?  It can be multiple loops of tracks staying level all the way around, or work it's way down the mountain.  I'm just looking for ideas.

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Posted by Jumijo on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:13 AM

Wes,

Try to find photos of last year's Lionel layout at Macy's. It featured a Christmas tree with tracks spiraling in it. I believe it was just an illusion. The tracks were most likely level. but several layers going up the tree looked very impressive. One of the coolest effects I've ever seen.

Jim

 

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Posted by pbjwilson on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:45 AM

I Believe

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Posted by Jumijo on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:56 AM
 pbjwilson wrote:

I Believe

I believe...that there are no tracks behind that observation car!

 

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:12 AM

Thanks guys.  I remember that huge macy's layout.  I'll hunt down pictures.  What is that, 70% grade?  That's awesome.


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Posted by SchemerBob on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:17 AM
 Jumijo wrote:
 pbjwilson wrote:

I Believe

I believe...that there are no tracks behind that observation car!

 

There are...if you look closly enough you can see the rails.

Gee that was a great movie, wasn't it?

I think there was an article in some magazine last year (it may have been CTT), that showed how to make a Christmas layout around the tree based on this scene. Don't know exactly how it worked, but I think it was a neat idea.

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Posted by gvdobler on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:02 PM

Point of order.

How does the train get back down?  It would be ever decreasing radius turns going up and no way to get back down.  I don't think a train could do this in real life, I could be wrong. I thought the sliding around on the ice and ending up re-railed on the other side of the lake was very realistic though.

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Posted by kpolak on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:19 PM
It's magic....
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Posted by dwiemer on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:32 PM
 gvdobler wrote:

Point of order.

How does the train get back down?  It would be ever decreasing radius turns going up and no way to get back down.  I don't think a train could do this in real life, I could be wrong. I thought the sliding around on the ice and ending up re-railed on the other side of the lake was very realistic though.

At the top on the other side is a viaduct that goes a lOOOOOng way off to a reversing loop around a Christmas tree and then it returns to this pleasant downgrade.

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Posted by Old King Coal on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:57 PM

A few "layers and mountains" of fun !



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Posted by Brutus on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:15 PM
That is a seriously COOL layout!  Thanks!  Do you have more pics?

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Posted by Old King Coal on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:56 PM

 Brutus wrote:
That is a seriously COOL layout!  Thanks!  Do you have more pics?

Jim ... Thanks for your COOL interest!  Here's a few more.




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Posted by Brutus on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:24 PM
See, you can't fool the kids - Seriously Cool! Wink [;)]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Jumijo on Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:24 AM

 

Awesome layout, King! Great photos! 

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Posted by kpolak on Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:42 AM

OKC Amazing layout!  Thanks for sharing.  Is this a storefront?

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Posted by mickey4479 on Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:06 AM

For what its worth, these are shots of part of my layout that are on a 2.25% grade but it is not a spiral around a mountain.  The tracks do hug the mountain side for a bit.  The diameter is 072  on the top and o81 on the lower part of this section of the layout.  Smile [:)]

 

 

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:10 AM
Those are good.  That's about what I was imagining.  Thanks for sharing.
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Posted by Old King Coal on Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:17 AM
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OKC Amazing layout!  Thanks for sharing.  Is this a storefront?

Jumijo & Kurt: Appreciate your kind feedback ... Thanks.

Not a storefront ...... it's inside a display trailer.

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Posted by Jumijo on Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:26 AM
 Old King Coal wrote:

umijo & Kurt: Appreciate your kind feedback ... Thanks.

Not a storefront ...... it's inside a display trailer.

OKC

Oooooh! Gears in brain turning.................turning some more..............some more... DING! Cake's done!!! If I had that rig, I could haul it to work behind the Buick and run trains every day at lunch!  Bow [bow]

Just awesome, King. I am green with ivy. I mean envy. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:43 AM

Both of those layouts are very creative.  I would love to see as much detail as I can about either one.  Layout info, more pictures, anything!

Thanks guys,
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Posted by mickey4479 on Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:08 PM

Wes, basically I have a 12' X 24" original part of the layout with a reversing loop diagonally.  Then I added another part that extends about 40' along a wall and it loops back to the original 12' X 24'.  But the loop back is a grade that allows the track to cross over the lower level at 2 places, once near the edge of the original part at 7 inches high, and then again at the Atlas bridge at about 12 inches high.  Kind of hard to explain.  I will post some photos but I do not know if they will help.  Cheers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:21 PM

The pictures help a lot.  I had no idea the size of that layout...It's huge!  I don't have that kind of space, but you gave me a bunch of ideas.  Thanks for posting them for me, and everyone else.  40' is a long run.  No wonder you can run those long passenger cars so well that I see in the pictures.

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Posted by Old King Coal on Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:41 PM
 Wes Whitmore wrote:

Both of those layouts are very creative.  I would love to see as much detail as I can about either one.  Layout info, more pictures, anything!

Wes ... My Wireless internet has been down most of the afternoon, thus the pregnant pause. 

 Here's the 4 level / 5 line trackplan.  It does not include a "6th point-to-point" line on the main level.  I know it looks like one huge conglomeration of spagetti in the layout image ...  as everything seems to mix together, .... however it does work for me. 

 

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:09 PM

Wow, without being the one who built it, it's very hard to follow.  They allow you to change to track color!  Regardless, it's a great layout.  I'm very good at making spagetti as well, but I use O-31 and 0-42 curves!  I just recently started using bigger curves with much better results.  It takes time to learn, I guess.

I'm working with a 7x11.5 bench right now...Maybe it's an improvement over the 4'x15' I was working with before, maybe not.  It allows me to run 0-72 curves, which I'm really excited about.

Thanks for the inspiration!  Any construction photos?

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Posted by rtraincollector on Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:36 PM
 Jumijo wrote:
 Old King Coal wrote:

umijo & Kurt: Appreciate your kind feedback ... Thanks.

Not a storefront ...... it's inside a display trailer.

OKC

Oooooh! Gears in brain turning.................turning some more..............some more... DING! Cake's done!!! If I had that rig, I could haul it to work behind the Buick and run trains every day at lunch!  Bow [bow]

Just awesome, King. I am green with ivy. I mean envy. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by envfocus on Friday, November 16, 2007 5:53 AM

This is another wonderful reason why I'm appreciative of this forum.  Great question to have asked to start it off and both layouts are inspiring.  OKC, I wish you'd tour the country (or just come to the Twin Cities) for us to see your mobile masterpiece in person and Mickey the only bad thing about your layout is if I had something anywhere near that, I'd probably never leave the house!  Thanks to both of you for sharing.

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Friday, November 16, 2007 6:48 AM
I like how high that mountains are.  The more I look at the pictures, the more I understand what is going on.  Those really look they would keep your attention for a long time.
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Posted by Old King Coal on Friday, November 16, 2007 3:11 PM

Many thanks enfocus ...

So far, we have travelled to Canadian events between Windsor & Ottawa, but have not been to the US with the display trailer yet (although we are about 1 hour from the Detroit/Windsor border). Travelling to events in the US is definately something we are considering for the future.

OKC

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