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Let's see your small layout
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:21 AM
Hi guys, I have been working on my 4x8 layout and I'm just not satisfied with my current track plan. I've looked through several plan books and even looked through all the plans on Thor's page. I just haven't seen anything I'm really happy about.

I was hoping you guys can help me by either giving me ideas or inspiration from seeing your small layout. Can you help? My requirements are 2 main lines, (three if possible) mostly 0-31 curves although I do have a full circle of 0-54 I'd like to use for my new Daylight and other "nicer" engines. I'm am willing to move up to 5x9 or even larger to get this in. I'd like to have a siding and a couple operating track accessories, not to mention a small town, tunnel and a bridge. :)

Have I asked too much? Thanks for your help guys.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:34 AM

I have three main lines and one trolley line. The two bottom lines are on seperate transformers and there are four blocks so that the inside train can sit while the outside train can use part of the inside loop. In addition there are two sidings again each is blocked. The lower tracks use 0-36 curves while the elevated track is 0-42.

The layout will be a farm scene once the inside fields are done.

 

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:39 AM

Daylight....It sounds like you have a plan. I went with 042 on the outside loop and 031 on the inside. Then, in the center, off of the inner 031 loop, is where I put my sidings. If you have engines or cars that reguire 054, then I would go with a 5 foot wide table. Just a suggestion.

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Posted by nitroboy on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:40 AM

 

This is a 5x9 layout. If you like it, or want to modify it, let me know.

Uses O gauge tubular track. Outside curves O-54 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:41 AM

This is what runs the large layout. Whistling [:-^]

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:18 PM

Here are a few pictures of my 4x8 layout. Due to the small area to work, I went with a much more detailed layout to keep visitors interested and looking for smaller details and scenes.

 031 curves, all MTH Scaletrax. Proves you pack alot into a 4x8 with a simple loop.

 Michael

 

 

 

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Posted by otftch on Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:51 PM

My photos won't upload to this site but you can see my layout at. It is 10 X 12.

                             community.webshots.com/user/otftch

 

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:57 PM

6 1/2 X 9 1/2 all post war american flyer

34" X 51" American Flyer All Aboard 600

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Posted by kpolak on Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:17 PM

The layout is actually only 7' x 4'.  Basically one big yard.  I enjoy switching the most, and wanted an underground passenger station.  The trains disappear behind the station, for about 5-seconds, but disappear nonetheless.  Plans for buildings above.

 

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Posted by dsmith on Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:03 PM

Here is my Postwar 027 tubular track 5' x 9' layout.  2 mainlines and a bumper trolley line.  There is an autostop feature so that I can run 2 trains on each mainline.  The inside main has an up and under section so I have 2 girder bridges.  Also, using connected 1122 remote switches, I can select the operation of the layout to allow a single train to travel around the outer main 1 1/2 times, then travel around the inner main 1 1/2 times and then automatically repeat.  The two sidings on the outside mainline use cutdown1022 switches so that the sidings will fit in a tight space.  There are also 4 sidings for switching operations(9 uncoupler tracks) and for operating accessories (milk car, barrel loader, log/barrel dump, and gantry crane).  There are 3 crossing gates, 4 flashing signals, 3 automatic semaphores, automatic gateman, flagman and switch tower.  All this in a 5' x 9' layout.  Sorry, no mountains or tunnels.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:15 PM
Nitroboy, thanks for the track plan. I really do like it and I'm thinking thats close to what I'm hoping for. Would there be any room for an elevated track on there?

Lirrfan- Beautifully done! I love the intricate detail and can imagine how great the trains look running through those hills and around the corners!

dsmith- I've seen your layout, it's very impressive. I love the block control- twice the trains= more fun!

Everyone's layouts are very nice. Lots of time put into them all!
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Posted by lionel2986 on Friday, July 13, 2007 2:19 AM
dsmith - What software did you use for your track design?
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Posted by nitroboy on Friday, July 13, 2007 7:06 AM

 

Here is the same layout, minus a siding and added a O-42 elevated loop(in red).

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 13, 2007 7:41 AM
Below is a link to photos of My 6x10' layout with dual loops and 4 stub sidings.
The curves are 31 and 42".

http://home.comcast.net/~graz6/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html

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Posted by dsmith on Friday, July 13, 2007 8:21 AM
I didn't use any layout software for my track design.  On the internet I found a graphic of a layout, I copied the layout and then using Microsoft Picture It(any graphic software will do), I cropped individual photos of straight and curved sections and the 027 switches.  Then I pasted the sections onto a blank page, moved, rotated and duplicated the sections as needed.  I added the red dots for uncoupler sections, yellow for track bumpers, and rectangles to approximate some of my buildings.

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Posted by USNRol on Friday, July 13, 2007 10:05 AM
 dsmith wrote:

Here is my Postwar 027 tubular track 5' x 9' layout.  2 mainlines and a bumper trolley line.  There is an autostop feature so that I can run 2 trains on each mainline.  The inside main has an up and under section so I have 2 girder bridges.  Also, using connected 1122 remote switches, I can select the operation of the layout to allow a single train to travel around the outer main 1 1/2 times, then travel around the inner main 1 1/2 times and then automatically repeat.  The two sidings on the outside mainline use cutdown1022 switches so that the sidings will fit in a tight space.  There are also 4 sidings for switching operations(9 uncoupler tracks) and for operating accessories (milk car, barrel loader, log/barrel dump, and gantry crane).  There are 3 crossing gates, 4 flashing signals, 3 automatic semaphores, automatic gateman, flagman and switch tower.  All this in a 5' x 9' layout.  Sorry, no mountains or tunnels.

I didn't use any layout software for my track design.  On the internet I found a graphic of a layout, I copied the layout and then using Microsoft Picture It(any graphic software will do), I cropped individual photos of straight and curved sections and the 027 switches.  Then I pasted the sections onto a blank page, moved, rotated and duplicated the sections as needed.  I added the red dots for uncoupler sections, yellow for track bumpers, and rectangles to approximate some of my buildings

David Smith

Dearborn, Michigan

David, you're an insipiration!  Love the layout and the ambition.  Makes me wanna go right out into my 90 degree garage and start putting track together!!

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Posted by brianel027 on Friday, July 13, 2007 11:07 AM

Daylight, I agree there are some nice layouts here all in small spaces... COOL!

My first layout was around 4x9 or a little bigger with 027 track. I had two mainlines where I could run separate trains and another overhead track where I could run yet another train. In the end I decided it was toooo much. It was hard to watch one train with three running in such a small space. But the noise rumble was pretty loud. One train wasn't so bad... three was another story.

My current layout is smaller (still with 027 track) built on sytrofoam insulation board with a pine frame. It's lightweight and I can move it myself.

I agree with what someone said above... I think LIRR fan, that it's just as much fun to add lots of details to see and watch. I personally think you can have as much fun with one train running so long as there's some switching and accessory action - which is what makes the 3-rail trains so much fun in my opinion.

I'm a big fan of the Looney Toons cartoons. I got to thinking how the Coyote was always falling off cliffs and mountains that just conveniently seemed to automatically end. And I got to thinking, what if I took that concept to make a mountain or tunnel on a small layout where space is at a premium. So that's what I did: The mountains are one-sided that go over the track and then conveniently just end. It's like taking one of those pre-fab styrofoam tunnels you see on holiday floor layouts and cutting it in half, and then put one half on the back side of the layout with the scenery side of the mountain facing you. Saves a lot of space on a small layout and still gives you some scenic variety.

Also consider having a river or lake on a corner of the layout where there's a curve. I built a simple bridge on the curve using pine (with a large brick patter carved into it) and then some basswood bracing under the track between the "brick" piers. There's not much room for accesories in the space on a corner outside an 027 curve where the track is close to the edge of the layout board, so this was another space saving idea that still allowed me some scenic variety.

I also keep things simple. When I had a larger layout, I had this scratch built dumping accessory that puts scrap loads into gondolas and dump cars. It was part of a larger factory. When I went to the smaller layout, I kept the dumping loader but had to ditch the companion factory.

I also have uncoupling tracks on the outside of the layout close to the layout edge, with dump bins mounted on the outside bracing of the layout frame. When activated, the dump cars over the U/C track, unload into these bins... another space saving idea.

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Posted by spankybird on Friday, July 13, 2007 6:56 PM

This is my Circus layout. It is 5' x 8'.

 

 

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Posted by Brutus on Friday, July 13, 2007 11:04 PM

Spankybird, I always love your pics from the layouts - nice track plan!  Great stuff guys, lots of different ideas shown.

Here is a pic of my soon to be former layout:

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:23 AM
brianel027, thanks for the advice. I can deffinitely see your point about having too much in such a small space. It's great to hear from people who have "been there, done that."

Thanks for sharing everyone. I hope you guys keep 'em comin'!
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Posted by USNRol on Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:09 AM
 Jim Fortner wrote:
Here is a pic of my soon to be former layout:

Let me guess Jim, you're having to grow in size in order to get that train to go through the reversing loops?

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Posted by Brutus on Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:45 PM

Big Smile [:D]

Actually, what you see there was my $40 goof.  I was seeing how many cars that 4-4-2 would pull.  It pulled all you see for about 1/2 hour at a nice slow speed.  Then, it started smoking from the wrong end!!!  I had to replace the circuit board and the motor (twice - I accidently drove a screw into the first replacement, which was not threaded).  It's all good, 'cause I learned an important lesson - don't do that!

Here's the original plan, which I have modified little by little:

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 15, 2007 11:40 AM

My layout is 6' x 8' and takes up almost half of my living room.Big Smile [:D]  I put the layout up from October to February. The bottom has an oval with a passing siding. (used to be a spur) It has O48 curves.  The top level is a smaller oval with a trestle and O36 curves.

 

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Posted by daan on Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:13 PM

It's really fun to see how much variation there is on such small layouts! My layout is 5x9, but along the walls instead of an island. Building along walls has some oppurtunities:

1 you can reach about anywhere without having to climb up the benchwork.

2 you can use different landscapes and it doesn't look funny (you can't oversee the layout)

3 Because of you not being able to oversee the layout, the trains look to go somewhere instead of running in circles.

4 No legs, since the layout is fixed to the walls.

Also some disadvantages, the biggest one is that you need to build a duck-under(?) or a lift out bridge to get to your controls and you need a lot more wiring, since you can't just go directly from your controls to the object which needs to be powered..

Photo's are on my website, also look for another 5x9 layout under "mijn oude banen" where my old layouts are.. (salt river canyon railroad..)

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Posted by NewbieLady on Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:27 PM
Hi DaylightFan,

Our layout is 4x8, 3 independent loops, each with their own power brick ( I wanted the ability to run 3 trains at once, rather than switching tracks.) As you can see, we managed to fit 2 double-portal tunnel openings, an elevated line with a bridge, and a bit of a downtown area. We've since squeezed in some building fronts along the front wall of the tunnel (in the back), and added some MTH operating accessories on top of the rear corners. We wanted a lot going on, and if you try, you CAN squeeze a lot in, if that's what you like. Hope this gives you an idea or two!



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Posted by traindaddy1 on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:02 AM

Sorry to post so late....This layout is @6' x 7'. At the time the photo was taken, it was a work in progress...many changes since.    4 separate lines, 1 elevated. (Blue bar is part of frame that holds a clear plastic dust cover.   Just to give you an idea.....Best of luck!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:47 PM
I have to say I love seeing everyone's layouts. It's kinda like going over and visiting everyone's place but I don't have to spend money on gas!

Well, my 4x8 has grown! It's now 4'8"x10'. My dad helped me add on to it this week. We are also hanging it on the wall in the garage so it will fold up and I can park my car by it. I will try to get pictures on here tomorrow so check back. We went 4feet 8 inches so we can get the O54 curves I have on the layout. That's really what I wanted to do so I don't need to go up to 5 feet wide. I still haven't planned my track plan, but now I can't have an elevated track because of it folding up. I'll also have to be very carefull in my planning of scenery and accessories. But that's all part of the fun right?

Keep posting pics everyone! BTW, you're welcome to go get more pics and post them on here if you want! Like I said, it's fun to get to "visit" your layout.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:44 AM
 kpolak wrote:

I love this layout diagram, this is pretty much what I'm looking to build.  My idea is to have an outter main that runs the perimeter of the layout that can access an inner loop, but also allows for the ability to change direction.  It seems that your layout does all of this nicely.

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Posted by kpolak on Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:58 PM

Thor and All Gauge gets ALL the credit.  I made a few modifications, but he did the base layout.  Here's the link:  http://www.thortrains.net/

Here's last year's Christmas layout:  Also by Thor.  I was able to run 2-trains at the same time, on the inner and outer loops.  Careful with the larger overhangs...

Went head-on with the 2338, and 1666 going opposite directions.

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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, July 20, 2007 6:05 AM
renova; good one Big Smile [:D]

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