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165 crane wiring

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165 crane wiring
Posted by catdoing on Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:56 AM

ok i got all wires on except one i cant figure.the yellow wire #3 to outer feild. the outer feid has two small cooper wires . should the #3 yellow be soldered to both of these? could i have the #5 and #3 wires crossed? all i get is the humming sound but i can get the feild to magnatize  thanks for any help

ps i have wire diagram

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Posted by Ole Timer on Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:06 AM

Both cranes are supposed to be wired exactly the same I'm told ... here is a couple links to manual and etc .

http://www.lionel.com/products/productnavigator/InstructionManuals/71-4209-250.pdf

This one may be the one you need though ... 

http://www.lionel.com/products/productnavigator/InstructionManuals/72-4114-250.pdf

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Posted by catdoing on Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:45 AM

both cranes as in the 165 and 282??????????

 

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Posted by kpolak on Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:19 AM

The 165 and 182 share the same wiring.

#6 (power) is the binding post (rusty screw wired to the controller only) on the right.

 

#3 (yellow) wire goes to the motor (outer field).  NOT BOTH.  #1 (black) wire goes to the motor (inner field).  The black and yellow wires are tied together here (not connected) for straign relief.  You can see in the photo below.  It looks like I may have the 3 & 5 colors switched, but they both go to the motor coil.

#5 (yellow) wire goes to celenoid coil A, #4 (black) wire goes to celenoid coil B.

 

The second photo shows the jumper wire at the motor brush on the right, and the field winding connection to the motor brush on the left.

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Posted by catdoing on Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:51 AM

OK THANKS  i see whats wrong now  the two wires on the left on bottom pic have been cut in two and a wire soldered to them. i picked this up at a show and it needed rewired as you can tell. again thanks

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