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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:06 AM
How about NKP Hudson 170

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 1:13 PM
Great Northern Railway 2523, no contest.


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Posted by csmith9474 on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 3:14 PM
The late '50s consolidated El Capitan/Super Chief, as it ran in one section. It would be a real pain to come up with the F7s, though. The rest of the equipment is available, although the Hi Level diners are scarce.
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Posted by CSX FAN on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 6:59 PM
Since were at the B&O meusum how about the Yellow Belly 490.

One thing I heard that really made sense would be to run track so you could run the trains. That was a hot topic back when Steamtown was done. Other areas have trains but no rails to run on. Steam town has tracks but limited engines to run on them. Extend the rails at Strausburg.

I would love to see a GG-1 moderized and run on the NE corridor. Have a real race with an Acela.Or a rat to run around Union Station.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 8, 2006 12:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by the feed

A shay of any kind

Here in washington the mount rainer sceneic is restoring 2 shays, hopefully by 2009
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 10, 2006 9:31 PM
With 5,000,000 I would have to make this really count. Where would this money be best spent. What would be the largest crowd drawer. Could a certain locomotive be restored under circumstances to rise money for additional restorations and maintance. My choose a BIG BOY.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 10, 2006 10:50 PM
I'd restore CGW FP7 #116A to operation



shouldn't take much $$, the controls are missing and so are the Traction Motors. Other than that...
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Posted by marthastrainyard on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:54 PM
If you really mean a train then it would have to be the UP Streamliner that had "Little Nugget" in it.

If you mean an engine I'd go for either a Big Boy or an SP Cab Forward, just pick any of them, I'm not picky [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:42 PM
Pull Alice the Goon out of the park she sits in and re-clad her in stainless so she can pull the Zepher at IRM, other wise lets do the N&W 2050, the Y3 we have.
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Posted by Train 284 on Friday, April 14, 2006 8:59 PM
I would restore a couple Big Boys.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:04 AM
You probably couldn't operate big boys everywhere though due to the size.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:19 PM
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Posted by youngengineer on Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:41 PM
personally i would like to see Denver and Rio Grande Western #683 at colorado railroad museum, last surviving D&RGW steam locomotive, although a the cab forward at california would be pretty awesome
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Posted by VAPEURCHAPELON on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:11 PM
Since I don't have any real idea how steam excursions and rebuildings and museum business in US works I cannot say for sure what I would have in mind:

-I think that much money should be enough to build an engine new! Perhaps not ordered by a certain Co., but organized by a handful of guys with real knowledge, and parts being made in several backshops.

With that money I would start to build the second of the awesome PRR S-1 6-4-4-6! Not only in my eyes the most spectecular thing ever on rails! And very likely the fastest of all steamers. But of course I would build it with newer technologies:
- Lempor draft
- star-shaped tubes and flues
- GPCS
- poppet valves
- roller bearings also on rods
- and especially some improvements on its running mechanism that it wouldn't have the same problems with curves as its original had.

These improvements are very few considering what would be possible today, but I have in mind that the engine should LOOK almost the same as the original 6100.

Once completed and ready to run I think there would come some matching cars around very quickly.

And since I am steam locomotive fireman and engineer by myself I would try to get the project leader interested to allow me also to run this beast from time to time.

I have no idea where to get so much money from. Or even to get interested these fellows having it to give it for such a project. But I am amazed that in UK a project of a new built mainline steamer (built using blueprints from an old prototype) is nearly completed - prove that all is possible!

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Posted by Ray Dunakin on Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:09 AM
I'd love to see a Big Boy under steam!

More realistically, I'd use the dough to get some steam power into running condition at the San Diego Railroad Museum again, and then put the rest into a trust to pay for the upkeep on it so they'd be able to run on a regular basis.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:59 PM
This is the one that I'd fix up. It's a Queensland Railways 1720 class GL18C (EMD 8-645E engine) built in 1966.


QR 1722 at Redbank Workshops

She's currently at Redbank workshops after a level crossing crash, however as QR are starting to retire the class, she may never be repaired. Some of the later members of her class have been re-conditioned and upgraded and will see a few more years.

I'd spend a few dollars on her bringing her up to the same condition/status as her younger sisters (except for their new yellow and red paint job-repaint her in the old blue and white). She would then be passed to a local historical group with mainline access (there's only one that I know of in Queensland) to be used for regular running days.

Any remaining funds would be spent on acquiring/upgrading some old timber long distance passenger cars. The intention would be to then go touring on a regular basis with selected groups of people around Queenslands' various underutilized outback branch lines.

...and US $5,000,000 is more like $6,800,000 Australian dollars so I'll keep the $1.8 for me!
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Posted by trainguy21 on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:44 AM
I would love to see the old NP engine displayed in the city park in Auburn, Wa. restored and running again. I've watched this unit slowly rotting away for over forty years.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:21 AM
Wow so many different but great answeres. Hmmmm, if iI had to choose an engine to restore I would have to pick the Pennsy's J-1 if I would be able to find any.

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Posted by VAPEURCHAPELON on Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:26 AM
georei,

I am sorry to report that PRR didn't preserve one single member of its J-1 class 2-10-4s.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:17 PM
No contest. I'd restore either N&W's 1218 or the 611. They are the finest steam locomotives in the East, and they deserve to be running. It might not take much ca***o restore them either; both are in excellent condition. It's time for them to come out of retirement.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 30, 2006 12:09 PM
The PRR GG1 would be my choice. to see that Engine under the wires of the NEC would be awesome.
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Friday, June 30, 2006 1:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sancho1
You probably couldn't operate big boys everywhere though due to the size.

[#ditto] There is no probably to it. The Union Pacific has been asked this many times. The answer is that they could and would restore a Big Boy if there was any place (practical) it could be operated. There isn't, so they won't. It would be pointless and a waste of money to restore a Big Boy only to have it run forward and backward down a few miles of track in the middle of nowhere. If one has seen the 3985 under full steam, there would not be that much difference.

QUOTE: Originally posted by daveklepper
How about a complete California Zephyr running from Newark to Emeryville, CA with a GG-1 pulling it Newark Philadelphia and the E-5 from Union heading the consist the rest of the way.

I don't know if that counts as "restoring" or not.... And I think It would take a whole lot more than $5M.

I think I would have to agree with eric1987. The NW 1216 and 611 could probably be done cheap. One would only have to remanufacture the parts that the NS destroyed on purpose to get them going again. With the left over money I would have liked to restore a AT&SF Baldwin 2-6-2 sitting in Lamar CO., and save the WS SD45 fleet.
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Posted by BurlingtonJohn on Friday, June 30, 2006 1:36 PM
This is such a no brainer.

I would restore the Mark Twain Zephyr, currently languishing in anonimity in Illinois.

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Posted by METRO on Friday, June 30, 2006 1:45 PM
Probably an Alco RS2 (there's probably still one of those sitting around somewhere) and a couple of heavyweight coaches to go behind it. I'd have to put that engine into the Boston And Maine maroon and harvest gold Minuteman scheme.

As for steam, there's a beautiful Rock Island 4-6-2 rusting out at the IRM. I'd take that and a couple old Chicago commuter coaches too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 1, 2006 7:59 PM
Am I allowed to build a brand new PRR T-1 since there are none to restore??
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 11:36 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RaymondLowey

The PRR GG1 would be my choice. to see that Engine under the wires of the NEC would be awesome.


Unless you put in a brand new generator or transformer, you could never do that due to environmental concerns. The GG1's used a coolant that gave off PCB's.
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Posted by clash on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 9:25 PM
I'd pull one of the CB&Q, S-4 Hudson or 05 Northerns out of the park and restore it. Then I'd try to get a small fleet of heavyweight passenger cars restored if there was any money left over.
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Posted by ChooChooMike on Monday, July 10, 2006 1:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ray Dunakin

I'd love to see a Big Boy under steam!

More realistically, I'd use the dough to get some steam power into running condition at the San Diego Railroad Museum again, and then put the rest into a trust to pay for the upkeep on it so they'd be able to run on a regular basis.



Ray - I've been volunteering on the steam team at the Pacific Southwest Railway Museum for that last couple of years. We would LOVE to get steam running again, that would certainly bring even more folks out. Last time the our 2353 (4-6-0) ran was around year 2000 just after it was used in the Pearl Harbor movie. We're trying to get an accurate estimate on the boiler/firebox repair.

We're also partially diassembling our Coos Bay 2-8-2T little Mikado. We removed the superheaters tubes this past weekend so we can start removing the flues and start checking out the boiler condition. We looking at possibly restoring that one instead of the much larger 2353. The smaller engine would be much less expensize to run/maintain.

All it takes is $$$ [:D]

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:52 AM

My candidates would include a GG-1 and a string of "clocker" Budd coaches restored to their orgiinal deluxe Senator/Congressional interiors, operable still in the NY-Washington corridor (but not north to Boston, different power now., one of Amtrak's still-operating Heritage diners could be added.)

or the Pennsylvanina State K-4 with a string of classic P-70's, a heavywieght diner and a heavywieght 6-wheel parlor-obs.

or the E-33/EF-5 in Connecticut with modern electricals to operate in the corredor

or the Flying Yankee or the Nebraska Zephyr and the E-5

 

I would have chosen the California Zephyr, but isn't the Canadian as operated now a pretty good stand-in?

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:43 AM
Prorably a entire California Zephyr Train Set or the NW 611.

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