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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 2, 2005 5:34 AM
Rob, in response to your question, though there are 10 barns at IRM, we still keep quite a bit outside. I believe the on-site inventory is close to 300. so there just isn't room for everything to be inside.
The picture I posted is from one of our web cams that you can access from the website. Sorry, but the trolley cam hasn't worked for a very long time.
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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, September 1, 2005 11:04 PM
Barn dad a nice shot to be sure. Were you cleaning out a storage barn or something? I didn't think you folks kept that much equipment out of doors. We have a constant battle to keep our equipment housed the sun / rail a nd wind blown dust etc wreak havoc on paint jobs and equipment.here's a shot from last July 10th on our museums 50th celebrations. Yard three filled up to almost bursting with the days revenue equipment and static displays. A nice cross section of some of our 60 pieces of street railway equipment. Rob
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:38 PM
Here's a pic of the IRM mainline ... right now!
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:22 PM
Wends, Aug 31.05

Work continues on the trucks, the last bell crank on truck 13 was refurbished with bearings and installed. Also the felt gasket for the wipers in the brake cyls was fitted to a cylnder. It was also tool repair day, with various handles, and support items being brought to opperating condition.

more to come,
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Posted by Gunns on Sunday, August 28, 2005 4:35 PM
27 Aug 05

Saturday,
well the bell went to the all roads to Albuqurque tricentenial program, along with many club members we were well recieved, and just about emptyed the lobby when we rang the bell <G>
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adn?full=1
After the program we got back to the work site, work on the Brake bell cranks continued, wit a new wear plate fabricated to replace a worn plate. Once this plate is welded in another finshed bell crank can be installed.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/ade?full=1
all the bell cranks on truck #13 have been removed and inspected, bearings have been renewed, and only one more bearing is needed for this truck.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adf?full=1
On truck #4 the support bracket that prevents a broken brake beam from falling on the tracks has been renewed and re positioned, apperently thiese brackets on the front of both trucks had hit something on the tracks while in service. Note our two 8 wheel buckeye trucks have number plates on them Id ing them as numbers 13 <rear truck> and 4 <front truck>
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adg?full=1
With all the remaining springs removed, the springs are being cleaned and coated with preservitive this one by Neadle scaling,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adj?full=1
and this one in a sandblasting cabinet.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adk?full=1
This set of springs have yet to be serviced, and are waiting thier turn.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adl?full=1
Also the crib work under the oil bunker was moved so the last stick of dunnage could be reattached.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adm?full=1

Lastly, a view into the fire box,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adi?full=1
and the view from the cab.

More to come,
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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:42 AM
Good morning everyone. Gunns great progress as usual, you guy's seem to be right on schedule.Should I start booking tickets for the inaygeral run yet? As to us slow and steady progress is being made on the removed main switch units of lake Erie and Northern Combine 797 body restoration has also begun in earnest as well.We've hit a small snag in the operational vialbility of L&PS #8 ( 1915 Jewett passenger combine )We are the only museum in Canada which operates any cars with patongraphs. We had a couple of broken ears on the east pan which we have replaced but all spare parts have dried up.Modern pans are too expensive and will not work well on these cars. At the moment our shop guys are dissasembling our one spar pantagraph from long scrapped sister car L&PS #4. We should be able to duplicate it with the few spares we have left but this will take up our remaining stock of spares.With two pans on #* and frieght locomotive L&PS L2 which is going to be made operable as time and funds allow this puts us behind an 8 ball for sure. Anyone with thoughts or knowing of early 1900's GE pan parts please let us know.. Thanks Rob
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:50 AM
Wends Aug24, 05

Today we finshed one of the brake "bell" cranks and re installed it to the tender truck, one down and 7 to go,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acz?full=1
also another crank was inspected and is ready for installation but we need to replace a wear plate on the tender truck frame before we can replace that Bell crank. The replacement for the single broken spring has been ordered. The saftey brackets that keep lose brake gear from falling from the trucks needs work, wear zones are being renewed with added stock and re formed to the proper profile.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adb?full=1
The bell was polished and the bell display rack was finshed in preperation for the Rails to Albuqurque activity this Sat. in the office, the last sets of drawing were prepared for copy, and futher refinement on the parts / work tracking software continued.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/add?full=1

other photos,
"Lurch" the car mover
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adc?full=1

And built in ladder access to one of the lubricators <80 in driver in back ground>
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/ada?full=1

More to come,
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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, August 22, 2005 10:32 AM
thank you Ted don't be a stranger here.And don't be afraid to ask the questions that you were always afraid to ask. Rob
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2005 5:54 AM
I'm really getting something from this thread Rob. Keep up the quality work we all admire so much. Regards Theodorebear
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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, August 22, 2005 1:02 AM
atthelney Thanks for joining our little museum thread, i'm glad to have you on board.[tup] I have had the privilage of a ride or two behind 2860. I'm glad to hear that it's on it's way back to life. Once you have it up and running perhaps another double header run is in order again. The last time I rode behind it was the year of the double head run with 6060. I didn't make that trip but seeing that or a run with 2816 would be grand.thanks for the website post as well. Rob
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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, August 22, 2005 12:45 AM
hello folks finally made it back on the thread. I had some picture problems with page one that left me unable to read it. We have been busy at the HCRR as well.Looks as though our barn 4 project is a go. Should satr on the structural steel this fall with the roof andsiding completed next year.Car restorations are on going as well. TTC track plow TP-11 has it's trucks 90% reassembled we are just waiting for the traction motors return they have been outshopped for rewinding, then the reassembly of the car will begin.hopefully by next spring it will be painted and running again.It's been a two year odessy a complete frame off. Likely the first time it's been stripped this bear since it's initial construction by national steal car in 1945! radial car 416 has a new roof and the vestibule and window frame and sash rebuilding are beginning. Two sets of doors are reinstalled and the early rewiring of the floor conduits has begun.Likely two or three years of work yet,but it's finally starting to look like the radial car it used to be.I'll be back later with some shots. rob
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:47 PM
Look who's at the IRM this weekend and next.

I really have to give Thomas a lot of credit for providing the funding we need at the museum. There was a steady stream of cars entering our auxillary parking lot when I left.
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Posted by Gunns on Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:08 PM
Sat 20 Aug 05
We had a great day to day. Weather was good and cooler. Sevrale members were in Amarillo to support the move of AT&SF 5000 the Madam Queen to its new display building.

At the work site, we managed to replace all the bearings in one of the rocker/bell crank plates on tender truck #13 berings were press fitted and had been case hardened according to instructions in our maintence folio. On the tender trucks needle scaling continues, and the last two spring pockets have been opened and the springs removed for inspection and cleaning. No futher springs were found to be broken, so the score was 1 broken spring out of 72 total springs, and the replacment spring can be orderd. Wood dunnage continues to be attached to the oil tank in preperation for its reinstallation in the tender. Much care has been taken to fit it to the "many" rivits that hold the tank together. The bell display frame was painted and polish was begun on the bell for it's display at a Tricentenial celabration for the City of Albuqurque this coming Saturday. The theme of this on is "Rails in to Albuqurque"

more to come,
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Posted by Gunns on Saturday, August 20, 2005 7:57 AM
barndad,

I have some bearings you can test, this one and the two others from this brake rocker.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/act?full=1

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Posted by athelney on Friday, August 19, 2005 12:22 AM
Hi again , regarding photo's of # 2860 undergoing restoration , do not have any myself except some video I've taken . We do have some shots on our website for all to view , it's --- www.wcra.org --- hope you get a chance to view them .
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:21 AM
Wends. Aug 17, 05

Work continues, the Buckeye trucks are still the focus of our efforts, more wear plates were put in place and welded on, the brake bearing survey continues, and the first bell / rocker plate has had the bearings removed, and new bearings are being fabricated <3 ea per plate> a punch has been fabricated for the bearing removal proccess, and works well in our 20 ton press. The maintenence folio calls for the bearings to be made fron mild steel and case hardened, the first is complete and ready for installation. Also the education committe met and discussed our ongoing education project for the local school district. In the office work continues on the restoration / part tracking program and more of the orignal plan sheets have been copied and made avalible for use in the restoration.

More to come,
Gunns

ps, them Buckeyes are big! they are 8 wheelers, which means 4 frames to a side, 36 springs, 20 or more wear plates,well over a 84 bearings in the brake rigging 4 wheel sets <8 Wheels> 1 major and 2 minor pivot points in the frames and a weight of over 22 tons. I am getting tied of Buckeye trucks And we hope to not have to "do" another refit for "Years".
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Posted by Gunns on Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:22 PM
Sat Aug. 13 05

Today was the monthly progress meeting, after the meeting we went to work.
A frame was constructed to support the bell at open houses and displays.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acu?full=1
and needle scaling continued on truck #4, also on the tender trucks mesurments and a survey is being conducted to select the sleave bearings that need replacment.

On the tender the dunnage has been compleated and is now beeing attached to the oil bunker, or plased in its location on the water tank.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acv?full=1
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acw?full=1
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acx?full=1
In the office the plans continue to be rolled and made avalible on our working plans storage area.
Last a photo of the Back head showing the ATS bracket, and also the spots where we tested the non-destructive testing equipment,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acy?full=1
More to come,
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Posted by Gunns on Friday, August 12, 2005 5:52 AM
barndad sounds good I'll talk to our CMO and see what he says. The bearings are really wear plates for the brakes, not constant friction surfaces, in our AT&SF folio the Spec calls for mild steel <no grade specifed> and case harding. I'll let you know what they say.... <got reminded by oldest member that I am just a young whiper snapper...>
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2005 5:38 AM
Gunns, I'm sure you already know that there will be about a 20RC difference in hardness between 1028 and D2. Usually bearings have 58RC minimum hardness specified. Your 1028 will be able to do that if you have it carburized. IF not ... expect hardness closer to 40RC. If you send me a piece of one of your broken bearings, I can cut it up and have a look to see what's there. A "piece" would be at least a 1/2" section.
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:40 PM
barndad,
Thanks for the offer, the steel turns out to be a 1028, and has a relitivly normal heat treat, I'm going to try a few and see how we do. The club got me a pyrometer for the heat treat, my biggest worry about sending them out is keping track of the "which part goes where thing" But you can bet I'll yell for help if I get in over my head.
thanks,
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:13 AM
Athelney, do you have pics to share of your restoration?
Gunns, did you want help heat treating your bearings?
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:23 AM
Wend. 10 Aug. 05

Finshed the last <I hope> part for the bell, <A 3/8 inch thick 3in dia. washer>
pardon the color but it was bright out and my camera didnt like it...
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acs?full=1

Also we started using the ultra sound equipment to get a feel for what we can expect from it, our opperater used the same equipment for many years and the equipment worked as advertised.

also bearing replacment has begun, lots to do here, average of 32 bearings on the brake rigging need replacment per truck, and we have 2 of the 8 wheel buckeye trucks. Drawings and notebooks are being prepared to keep track of the work in progress.
Broken bearing above the site of the "bell crank" rocker that it goes to.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/act?full=1

In the office the copies of our drawings continue to be marked and rolled for use. This will preserve the orignals, and allow us to drag a drawing out to the work site.

more to come,
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 8, 2005 10:04 AM
Here are a few shots of the preserved Cincinnati Car Co. curved side street car from 1923 at the Cincinnati Museum Center's Local history museum. This is in the Cincinnati Street Railway livery of the times. Two other restored cars of this model are in the country. One is newly opened at a site in Marietta GA, this is another one from the Cincinnati Fleet. The other one is at the Seashore Museum in Kennebunkport ME from the Wheeling WVA fleet.

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Posted by athelney on Sunday, August 7, 2005 11:19 PM
Hi fellow restoration fans , just thought I would update the progress on Ex CPR Royal Hudson #2860 at our museum in Squamish BC Canada , We have started work in earnest on its return to steam , just recently the stainless boiler casing , the front smokebox door , various running board parts we all removed , then the superheater tubes were taken out and then all but 7 of the boiler tubes removed - now waiting for new ones to arrive. In the cab - the firebox door & surround ,all the firebox brickwork , regulator & brake stand together with all the gauges have been taken off - she looks a little naked but this is good news . Plans are for a return to steam next year -- heres hoping .. cheers
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Posted by Gunns on Sunday, August 7, 2005 5:59 PM
Sat Aug 6 05

Busy today,

We had another saftey class, for new members, with 5 attending, the bell was cleaned <old paint removed> and the inside painted, work started on the dunnage that goes between the oil tank and the water tank,
the original wood,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acn?full=1
The replacement <not yet compleated>
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acm?full=1

The #4 truck continues to recive attention, with the springs removed from the front right side and the wear plates welded in,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aco?full=1

In the Machine shop tooling is being produced to allow the replacment of the bearings that are in the truck brake rigging,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acb?full=1

All in all things are going well,
more to come,
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, August 4, 2005 1:03 AM
Hi All,
work day again to day,
Wends, Aug 3, 05

Today we assembled the bell and Rang it for the first time in 40 years.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/abs?full=1


http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/abt?full=1

http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acd?full=1
Where the bell lives

also work continues on the tender truck #4, the last brake Cyl mount has been removed and the springs removed.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/abz?full=1
Compleated brake rigging mount
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aca?full=1
Freshly removed mount
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acb?full=1
Wear bearings and wear on the rocker arm
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acc?full=1
Broken Spring, the only one found so far. Also

also a few pictures,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/ace?full=1
Note 3 cylinders,
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acf?full=1
Some of the drawings for the bell clapper
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acg?full=1
working on the infastructure
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/ach?full=1
Our whistle
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aci?full=1
the brake cyilnder rebuild
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acj?full=1
a look in to the mud ring
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/ack?full=1
the spedometer.....
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acl?full=1
Feed water injector


More to come
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 5:38 PM
Hi all. Thought you might like to see pics of our 504 interurban at IRM.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/dougsecrist/aae.jpg
http://www.railimages.com/albums/dougsecrist/aaf.jpg
http://www.railimages.com/albums/dougsecrist/aag.jpg

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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:32 PM
Hey Rob
Sorry I never got around to congradulating you until now. Having rode many of the TTC cars the PCCs and even the old Peter Witts I guess I can write to this column once in a while. As a boy I rode the trams of the BCER with my Grandparents from New Westminster to downtown Vancouver. My first trip on a streamliner was the great Northerns new 1947 Empire Builder in February the year of its inaugural. I think since that time I have had a lifelong love affair with rails and have ridden passenger trains and streetcars every opportunity I can. Guess that makes me a railfan. I am also a member of the California State Railroad Museum, Great Northern Railway Historical Society and Southern Pacific Historical Society.
I as you already know am writing several books about passenger trains with one at the publisher already and three more almost ready for the publisher. If I can answer any streamlined passenger car questions at any time feel free to ask.
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Posted by Gunns on Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:07 PM
Sat. 30 July 05

Lots of visitors to day,

Cut, set up, and started cutting the clapper of the bell.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/abn
Cutting
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/abq
Cutting
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/abr
Close up

Out side we reinstalled the foot plate on the tender, welded wear plates on to the tender trucks, and applied another coat of linseed oil to the Dunnage that will seperate the oil bunker from the water tank. Also a Bolt that had resisted mightily was finally removed from the oil bunker fill door, and much paint was applyed to the underside of the tender.
Inside the Office copys of the drawings were numbered and placed in the ready rack, also the program that will keep track of parts removed was further refined. >>
Word has it that the bearing steel has arrived and will be avalible Wends... Lots of bearings on the way.

More to come,
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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:07 PM
Great stuff Kevin it's wonderfull to see the dedication and devotion to preserving the past. Both Canada and the US owe much our countries development to the rail industry. I know with most museums vollenteers make up the bulk of the workforces so seeing anything rebuilt and running is a testament to people. Not uncommon to hear about 10 , 20 year restorations such as Doug has shown with the UP efforts by the steam shop guys in Chicago. Hats off to those of you rebuilding steam possibly no definatly the most time and fund consumming restorations.I know that our museum tends to work on several projects at once as most of the funding is donated speacificallu to the car in question therfore completion times will take a bit longer. This is going on alongside the regular maintenance and inspections of our everyday fleet of cars we use in our regular service during the operations at the museum. Inactually urge everyone to support your local rail museums or join if possible.As always please use this thread to share musuem exhibits/ information and those not members please ask questions of the museum people here. Thanks again Rob

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