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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, July 22, 2005 10:35 AM
Mornin' coalminer 3 Coffee's right over there ....... Fish fry's to go [?] [yeah] I don't see why not. Just check with Boris and tell him when you expect to be back. [tup]

Knew we could count on you for some Classic Trains input ... and really good stuff at that! [yeah]

To be able to turn the clock back just for the sake of riding in those great passenger trains we had in our country ........ [wow]. My modest library of hard cover editions has many photo's of the NYC's 20th Century Limited. What a train indeed. Those trains of yesteryear had so many amenities that one might wind up having a time of it just deciding what car to spend the time in. Try 'em all! [tup]

I rode the Limited's (Pennsy's Broadway and NYC's 21st Century) but at a time when they were mere shadows of the glory days. Also much too young and poor to take advantage of the good stuff on board. Isn't that the way [?]

[yeah] I wonder why today's Lake Shore Limited even posts a schedule. Good Gawd Gertie, is that train ever on time [?] Not to bash Amtrak - really. Anyone who understands today's situation with our rail network surely has to cut 'em some slack given they are at the mercy of the freight guys - the owner's of the track in 99% of the instances of late arrivals. Still, the pitiful manner in which our country has overseen this quasi-governmental corporation leaves many wondering, "Is this any way to run a railroad [?]" [tdn]

Still not giving us a name, huh [?] Okay, I'll have to get Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabularly and his trusted sidekick, Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator to look into this ..... are you SURE this is what you want [?] [}:)]

See ya later! [tup] [;)]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 22, 2005 10:14 AM
Hello everyone. I believe I'll partake in that advertised breakfast with ( hopefully) a bottomless cup of black coffee. Biscuits and gravy are a particular weakness.
Tom, the motels on the I44/Glenstone exit have changed names so many times I can't keep track. BNSF is about the only rr in town but Railamerica's Missouri and Northern Arkansas keeps an ex Kansas City Terminal SW1200 here for their customers. A crew shows up around 0900 almost every day during the week to run across town to interchange with BNSF at the former Frisco South yard. They meander back spotting cars on the way and usually are done by midafternoon. They used to leave the loco running during cold weather but within the past couple of years it was fitted with something that enabled it to be shut off and not freeze up. Older locos could not use antifreeze, you know.
The West Coast Rwy Assoc. is selling these RDCs on Ebay on 10-3-05. RDC1 #10 and #11 and RDC3 #30. They are former BC Rail.
Tom, it looks like I70 to Kansas City then I35south to Gardner exit. At Gardner, take K 56 to Baldwin City. It's like 10 or 12 miles. Once you're in town, look for the signs or just drive for the grain elevaator. The depot is on High street at the elevator. I really like a series of maps put out by DeLorme in book form. Very informative and easy to use. I got mine at Wally World. Highly recommended as they have all rrs, farm roads , etc. I am marked up for engineer 23 and 24 July and 6and 7 August. Would like to see you then.
Theodorebear, I have run the Carthage area driving truck and there are no Decapods around. There is a small steam loco found by divers at a former mine a couple years ago. The Decapods from Eagle Picher are the following,
1615 @ Altus, OK
1621 @ MOT,St Louis, Mo
1625 @ SW RR Museum, Dallas, TX
1630 @ IRM
1632 @ Belton, Mo.
I found out last night that the board meeting for tomorrow that was supposed to occur aboard the train has been rescheduled for earlier in the day. That's good as now I won't have to worry about giving the directors a bum ride during the meeting!!
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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, July 22, 2005 9:28 AM
Good Morning All:

Coffee, please. Also can I get four fish frys "to go?" I'll pick 'em up on my way home.
Weather report for the coalfields today is continued heat, fog, humidity, sun, and scattered cloudbursts - typical for July here.

I have been reading some recent posts and herewith a few replies.

Theodorebear: Inlaws live in Buffalo area. Thus, the regular roadtrips to "go see grandpa," which somehow ties in with visits to hallowed rr sites in the area. BTW, my wife is one of the world's greatest football fans. She doesn't follow WVU that much as she went to school in Ohio. But, she does love the Bills, so we must be careful (LOL).

Barndad: Thanks so much for sharing the pictures. IIRC, is the Zephyr equipment the same set that was used in the movie "A League of Their Own.?"

Trolleyboy: War of 1812 - excellent. For more than a few years I lived right near the old Navy yard in Charlestown, MA; home of "Old Ironsides." I remember being at Old Ft. Niagara awhile back and talking with some of the Briti***roops after they did a firing demonstration which was very well done. IIRC, they were 15th Foot, and were active in the Boston area in 1775. I enjoyed the picture of the open car - lovely restoration work. A question for you as I don't know much about traction (along with a lot of other stuff)...how did that car compare in size, etc. to the Connecticut Company's open cars?

Here's a 1943 era consist for the 20th Centruy Limited (eastward) that I thought visitors to Our Place might enjoy
Buffet lounge: Chicago-New York
Observatiion sleeping car (master room/bedroom/buffet): Chicago-New York
18 rtte sleeper: Chicago-New York
10 rte/5 db sleeper: Chicago-New York
4 compt/4 bdr/2 drawing room sleeper: Chicago-New York (three cars)
13 dbr sleeper: Chicago-New York (two cars)
Diner: Chicago-New York

Here's some additional copy that will make you weep.

"The 20th Century Limited and other New York Central passenger trains are frequently operated in two or more sections....When more than one section of a train is operated, it frequently happens that only the regular section will make all the advertised stops. Passengers expecting others to accompnay them [art of the journey, or join them en route, are requested to inquire at starting point what stops will be made."

Special service features are provided on limited trains as follows:

Nos. 25 and 26 - "Twentieth Century Limited"
Club-lounge car: Barber, secretary. dictaphone, valet, sporting events, magazines, newspoapers, stationery.
Observation car: Maid, telephone at terminals, lounge, radio, magazines, newspapers, stationery.
Cafe Centry (dining car): set up as Night Club after the dinner hour."

Somehow the "Lake Shore" didn't have a lot of that stuff when I made a Chicago-Boston RT last spring - I know, it was shopped for repairs.

Have a good one - work safe



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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, July 22, 2005 8:15 AM
FRIDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

We made it! Friday once again and the weekend begins for many after work today! [yeah] Start the day with some fine treats from The Mentor Village Bakery. Then order the light breakfast that we feature along with some of that freshly ground and brewed coffee. Can’t beat it with a stick ….. [swg]

A couple of things to discuss:

The next Birthday Bash is supposed to be for Chris. However, it doesn’t appear that he’ll be checking in with us anytime soon. He’s recuperating at home and told me that his internet connection is so slow, that he’s given up on it (at least until he gets back to work.)

So, here’s the plan: I will provide you with his Email address at home IF you send me an Email. Don’t want to release it here in cyber space ….. Then each of us can send our greetings to him on July 25th. Okay [?] C’mon and let’s make this a special thing for our friend Chris – the first customer at ”Our” Place.[tup]

Birthday Bash coming up for trainnut484 Russell on July 30th. So – Russell let us know the time that you’d like us to help you celebrate![tup]

FISH FRY tonite! Due to reasons that only Ted the Interim Chief Chief of ”Our” Place, knows – tonight apparently will be a Fish Fry nite. Last night – Thursday – was our Traditional Fish ‘n Chips nite with Boris filling in quite well in the kitchen! Don’t forget – Tonight is ALSO Pizza Nite …….. and Steak ‘n fries Nite ….. So, the message is: Come hungry!

Okay, time for the SUMMARY with limited smilies, graphics and photos:


QUOTE: Theodorebear
Posted: 21 July 2005, 08:19:59
Barndad thanks so much for the additional info. on the C.B.&Q setting and I ditto the request for more pix of same. Your "better half" is defintely the best 6 of the dozen. Coalminer 3, I can't believe the temps. in Buffalo. Why would you want to return in November, unless you're a "Bills" fan?
Spring and early Summer in New England can bring just about any kind of weather and usually does!

Earlydiesels, hey I gotta agree on the Frisco steam out of Spfld, Mo.; it was superb. You and Rob share archeology in common. Not long ago, Rob dug up some remains of long ago abondoned R. of W. in his "neck of the woods." Those artifacts are easy to find around Tampa Bay; they are all jogging/bike trails! Its a "long shot" but I'll bet a couple of the 1600's (Decs) ended up at that Gypsum mine near Carthage, MO. I know about 1632, she's near my Uncle's home (Belton, Mo). Tom is right about enticing me into a rail trek (St. L. to K.C., Mo). There's nothing I'd rather do. It's the ^#$%! r.t. flight (Tampa-St L.) that "turns me off." I'm still "running cold" from the Ireland encounter on B.A. and Lingus Air, not to mention the "shake down" and trousers sniffing Beagles at the Terminals. Oh Dan, the Espee put together an excellent video on an excursion "run" from Spokane, WA to Sacramento(?), CA. (Northern "on point"). At the end, the credits specifically stated: "No thanks to the California Highway Patrol!" I thought that had something to do with that ridiculous air horn near the boiler front?

Okay Mr. Tom, now I can enjoy that Beefeaters & Tonic. BTW, I'll be in touch about some "security" issues on "hosting" from Railimages and Photobucket. Say Boris, I heard you and Leon were doing the Hungarian "two step" to Johnny Willfahrt's music after hours. Also, 2 quarts of Peppermint Schnapps are missing this morning. Give a care, see y'all later, Ted


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 21 July 2005, 08:58:22

G'day to ya Ted and that Beefeaters, with a twist of lime, is comin' right up! [yeah] An all time favorite summertime refreshment for me .... just love 'em. Got started in another time and place in a life long ago ... Cuba was the place, prior to and during Castro. [yeah]Goes back a bit ....... My oh my, how HE is getting old!

Glad I checked the postings before setting out to take care of the issues of the day. Blankety-blank refrig/freezer is on the Fritz. What a time to go. Actually, is ANY time appropriate or convenient [?]

Carol and I had just returned from a 10-day cross-Canada rail trip aboard VIA Rail's Canadian in January 2003. When we opened the door to our home it smelled as if the entire neighborhood had camped out in our house and died. The refrigerator had. What an experience and what a wonderful time we had cleaning out - cleaning up and then trying to arrange for a replacement, etc. Ugh.

So, this unit is relatively new - and fortunately on extended warranty. I wouldn't want Carol to have to get a night job to pay for the repairs!

[yeah] Boris The Bossman is [#offtopic] again - so what else is new [?] Give 'em all a drink and of course, ring the ding-dong bell!

C'mon Ted weaken! You KNOW that you'd like to take that cross-Missourah Amtrak trip with me - so check under the mattress, and pull out some of those green back silver certificates you undoubtedly have and c'mon up!

Oh [yeah] to add to the glorious start of this day, I got stung by a beast on my left elbow. Man oh man, felt it immediately and still do, about 2 hours later. Don't know what it was, but the critter came right at me, zapped and tried again on the other side. It was moving way to fast for ID - couldn't get the plate # - but I had hoped Juneau the Wonder Husky would have at least snapped it up. So, I'm iced on the elbow ........ I need a double JD on the rocks!

Remember, it's FISH 'n CHIPS Nite and you're up as Interim Chief Chef [C=:-)]!

See ya!
Tom


QUOTE: earlydiesels
Posted: 21 July 2005, 13:26:33

Hello everyone. A cold Margarita on the rocks, please. Tom, just sit there and relax and let one of these pretty waitresses get my drink and feed the jukebox. Keep that sting iced down. Still haven't found the Trainline but I will eventually. This area has a heat warning from today until at least Sunday so take it easy.
Barndad, about 1995 Trains magazine had a great article about the Nebraska Zephyr and IRM. I found it quite informative. A couple of seasons ago, a fellow from IRM came out to the Midland and spent the day. He took several rolls of film. I was engineer that day and we had the 652 and the 142 together on the train. One of the pix he took was made into a print and is sitting here by the pc in my den right now. If memory serves, his name was Harold. Tall, burly guy with glasses. Liked to talk.
Springfield has a footbridge that was built in 1902 that spans the former North yards. It was built so people would not have to cross what was even then, busy tracks. The former North roundhouse and servicing facility was close and lots of Frisco employees lived within walking distance and Commercial Street was full of businesses that catered to their needs. Today, the bridge is a Historic Landmark and was recently restored. The businesses are gone but the street is undergoing a recovery. There is now a farmer's market at the south end parking lot of the bridge. This is about 2 miles from the house so yesterday I walked up there to check it out.( and walk off some of this middleaged spread.) I started around 0930 and was home by 1230 before the real heat of the day. Still, I got burnt everywhere there wasn't clothes and my legs are sore. Got to see one of those odd Loram machines and 2 empty northbound coal trains. There is something like 65-70 trains a day thru Spfld now and a lot of those are coal trains. Being on the bridge, I was able to examine the tops of the power and the insides of different types of coal hoppers.
It's nice and cool in here. I may just hang out here by the jukebox and keep my ears open. I might learn something and see some of the regulars, too.


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 21 July 2005, 14:02:13

Howdy earlydiesels Dan You're in luck, a couple of the gals talked me into letting them work this afternoon, so your Margarita , and then some, is on the way!

Good advice about keeping that blankety-blank sting iced down - when it's not, it still hurts. No other symptoms going on - wonder what kinda beast it was [?] I recall as a kid in Boy Scout camp, I dropped a 2" firecracker into a hornet's nest. [wow] [#wstupid] Not smart! I don't think I've ever run so fast - fortunately the lake wasn't too far away - and I spent a lot of time under water! They weren't very pleased with me. Had a few stings - but got away lucky. Haven't been stung since ....... that is, until this AM.

65-70 trains a day through anywhere sounds like great train watching territory to me! What railroads pass through your area [?] Wouldn't it be great to catch a look at a steamliner from the past [?] Ahhhhhhh, you bet!

Used to get down to Sprfingfield at least once a year over a 5 year period. Always on business - law enforcement - so never had the time to enjoy the town. There was (or maybe still is) a Holiday Inn right off the I-44 exit that we'd stay at. Mirrors on the ceilings in some of the rooms! This was back in the mid-80's - and the Happy Hours were something else at that place. [yeah]Good times - at times - in Springfield, MO! We'd usually only get one night there, then off to somewhere else ....... long days, longer nights and today I wonder where the energy came from [?]

Speaking of the Midland, I've been thinking that it would be smarter for me to drive. What's the best route to take from St. Louis [?]My Amtrak trips to KCity are really just day trips - round trips - and mostly late. So, to ensure that we could hook up, driving seems the way to do it. Your input is apprecited!

Been wondering where *** might be today. He said they were leaving for England the day after his July 15th Birthday Bash. Sure hope he and his wife didn't get involved with the latest terrorism attacks in London today. Well, let's all think positive thoughts .......

Enjoy the cool temps, good discussions, and pretty gals! Never know who will pop in, so throw a bunch of quarters from the jar over there into the Juke ....

Hey Boris leave her alone! She doesn't want to serve you in your shed! Geesh .......

Tom


QUOTE: barndad
Posted: 21 July, 18:27:30

Hi all!. Just have time to flash a few more pics. I'll have to do some reading to answer some of the questions that have been asked about the Zephyr.
Here's two pics for Trolleyboy and theodorebear
[[NOTE: Scroll up for PIX//

The trolley is in front of our barn #9, which is our largest barn. The Frisco is inside the same barn. It needs wheel work!
Gotta run


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 21 July 2005, 18:53:43

Hello barndad Once again, nice photo's!

I have a suggestion for you. The regulars of "Our Place became regulars by taking the time to socialize with the barkeep and the other guys at the bar. Now, I know that may not be in keeping with whatever the agenda some may have, but this thread is that way. Don't get me wrong, you are very much welcome 'round here, just wish you'd spend a bit of time with all of us .... not just a few.

Don't forget - tonight is Fish 'n Chips nite and Ted is Interim Chief Chef [C=:-)].

By the way, whatillyahave [?] I can't stay open unless the customers order something! Gotta pay the bills ........
Tom


QUOTE: trolleyboy
Posted: 21 Jul 2005, 23:07:56

Good evening everybody. Tom Try putting some after bite( made by deep woods ) on the sting, the swelling and pain should go away. I'll have a nice gyuiness I think with the fish of choice. No Boris i don't want the gold fish .

Dan I'm glad you have temporarily fixed your horn delema,you would hate to be sidelined indefinatly by that thoughtless act.The two years I worked at the fort I was part of the 41st regiment of Foot(redcoat unit) The Glengary's that I'm thinking of rejoining were a Canadian light infantry regiment raised to defend Canada just prior to the war of 1812 ( green jacket unit )They are still formally a CDN forces reserve unit. Battle honour s during the war of 1812 were at Chrylers farm, Stoney Creek , Chippawa, Plattsburg,Queenston Heights,Capture of Detroit,and yes they landed at Washington and assulted the white house along with the British units. Sorry weaved off the beaten path again.Ton this isn't as expensive of a passtime as you might think. Contrary to popular belevef I don't make the big bucks.

//NOTE: Scroll up for pix//

Just a couple shots of the action.

coalminer Next time you head buffalo way email me I'm only an hour and a bit from the buff.Our heats been constant like that as well,I'm certainly not looking forward to this winter either.

barndad again thank-you for the pictures,a couple of our museum people were down to your fine museum this past may.Nice safety car BTW.I thought you guys might like to see a couple of fairly recent renovations turned out by our shop forces recently. this is London street railway 23 a lg DT open car of 1901 vintage.This car is 50' in lentgh so it's a big guy for an open car of wood construction. When we first got this car body it had sat in springbank park on a cement pad as a changeroom for the swimming pool there along with two sisters. The oroginal; plan was to aquire all three but the other two crumbled when we went to move them. We scrapped them on site and kept what we could off them as spares.This car arrived at our museum in 1984. It's first powered runs were last summer.It's still not cleared for regular use but this is mostly due to training issues for our crews.

//NOTE: Scroll up for pix//

These shots show truck refurbishing and the final assembly of the car. This was essentially a complete rebuild from fram up. Frame and carbody are wood on this car.It sits fairly high on it's trucks as they are not the originals which were scrapped in the 40's when it was parked in the park.Other than that it's built to it's builders specs. This last shot is at last years 50th aniversary fete. My lovely wife is possing on the running board.Later all Rob


Nice shots! [tup] Pain has turned to itch – good sign. Kept it iced all day – worked well. Critter must have been upset with something ……. [tdn]

Hope to see a bit more of you ‘round here. Ain’t the same without you! [swg]
Tom

QUOTE: Theodorebear
Posted: 22 July 2005, 07:51:51

OH NO!!! I just typed the best reply yet and my spastic right middle finger hit "reset" and blew it away. Okay, I'll just cover the "bear" neccessities and come back later with the "full" text. Gents, we are in luck. My local "contacts" from yonder high country brought in a catch of Rainbow, Speckled and Cut Throat lake/stream Trout. Bring an apetite, 'cause there are plenty of- -"crisp" on the outside and "tender" on the inside- -Fries with buttered Garlic toast. Tom, between your broken Frige, Bee sting and my blunder, it just didn't pay to get out of bed this A.M. I gotta get busy on the cooking oil, etc. OH, stay away from Boris' fillets of Sole! He used the bottoms of Leon's Boondockers! Be back a.s.a.p., Ted

All I can say in response is: read the SUMMARY!! [swg]

For all of our REGULARS Remember: Monday, July 25th is Chris’ Birthday. I’ll provide his Email address if you send me a request for it by Email. That way we can communicate our [bday] wishes to him!
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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 22, 2005 7:51 AM
OH NO!!! I just typed the best reply yet and my spastic right middle finger hit "reset" and blew it away.[:(!] Okay, I'll just cover the "bear" neccessities and come back later with the "full" text.[8] Gents, we are in luck. My local "contacts" from yonder high country brought in a catch of Rainbow, Speckled and Cut Throat lake/stream Trout. Bring an apetite, 'cause there are plenty of- -"crisp" on the outside and "tender" on the inside- -Fries with buttered Garlic toast. Tom, between your broken Frige, Bee sting and my blunder, it just didn't pay to get out of bed this A.M. I gotta get busy on the cooking oil, etc. OH, stay away from Boris' fillets of Sole![alien] He used the bottoms of Leon's Boondockers![:O] Be back a.s.a.p., Ted
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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:07 PM
Good evening everybody. Tom Try putting some after bite( made by deep woods ) on the sting, the swelling and pain should go away. I'll have a nice gyuiness I think with the fish of choice. No Boris i don't want the gold fish[XX(]. Dan I'm glad you have temporarily fixed your horn delema,you would hate to be sidelined indefinatly by that thoughtless act.The two years I worked at the fort I was part of the 41st regiment of Foot(redcoat unit) The Glengary's that I'm thinking of rejoining were a Canadian light infantry regiment raised to defend Canada just prior to the war of 1812 ( green jacket unit )They are still formally a CDN forces reserve unit. Battle honour s during the war of 1812 were at Chrylers farm, Stoney Creek , Chippawa, Plattsburg,Queenston Heights,Capture of Detroit,and yes they landed at Washington and assulted the white house along with the British units. Sorry weaved off the beaten path again.Ton this isn't as expensive of a passtime as you might think. Contrary to popular belevef I don't make the big bucks. Just a couple shots of the action. coalminer Next time you head buffalo way email me I'm only an hour and a bit from the buff.Our heats been constant like that as well,I'm certainly not looking forward to this winter either.barndad again thank-you for the pictures,a couple of our museum people were down to your fine museum this past may.Nice safety car BTW.I thought you guys might like to see a couple of fairly recent renovations turned out by our shop forces recently. this is London street railway 23 a lg DT open car of 1901 vintage.This car is 50' in lentgh so it's a big guy for an open car of wood construction. When we first got this car body it had sat in springbank park on a cement pad as a changeroom for the swimming pool there along with two sisters. The oroginal; plan was to aquire all three but the other two crumbled when we went to move them. We scrapped them on site and kept what we could off them as spares.This car arrived at our museum in 1984. It's first powered runs were last summer.It's still not cleared for regular use but this is mostly due to training issues for our crews. These shots show truck refurbishing and the final assembly of the car. This was essentially a complete rebuild from fram up. Frame and carbody are wood on this car.It sits fairly high on it's trucks as they are not the originals which were scrapped in the 40's when it was parked in the park.Other than that it's built to it's builders specs. This last shot is at last years 50th aniversary fete. My lovely wife is possing on the running board.Later all Rob
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:53 PM
Hello barndad Once again, nice photo's! [tup]

I have a suggestion for you. The regulars of "Our Place became regulars by taking the time to socialize with the barkeep and the other guys at the bar. Now, I know that may not be in keeping with whatever the agenda some may have, but this thread is that way. Don't get me wrong, you are very much welcome 'round here, just wish you'd spend a bit of time with all of us .... not just a few.

Don't forget - tonight is Fish 'n Chips nite and Ted is Interim Chief Chef [C=:-)].

By the way, whatillyahave [?] I can't stay open unless the customers order something! Gotta pay the bills ........ [;)]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:27 PM
Hi all!. Just have time to flash a few more pics. I'll have to do some reading to answer some of the questions that have been asked about the Zephyr.[:p]
Here's two pics for Trolleyboy and theodorebear

The trolley is in front of our barn #9, which is our largest barn. The Frisco is inside the same barn. It needs wheel work!
Gotta run
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:02 PM
Howdy earlydiesels Dan You're in luck, a couple of the gals talked me into letting them work this afternoon, so your Margarita , and then some, is on the way! [}:)]

Good advice about keeping that blankety-blank sting iced down - when it's not, it still hurts. No other symptoms going on - wonder what kinda beast it was [?] I recall as a kid in Boy Scout camp, I dropped a 2" firecracker into a hornet's nest. [wow] [#wstupid] Not smart! I don't think I've ever run so fast - fortunately the lake wasn't too far away - and I spent a lot of time under water! They weren't very pleased with me. Had a few stings - but got away lucky. Haven't been stung since ....... that is, until this AM.

65-70 trains a day through anywhere sounds like great train watching territory to me! [tup] What railroads pass through your area [?] Wouldn't it be great to catch a look at a steamliner from the past [?] Ahhhhhhh, you bet! [swg]

Used to get down to Sprfingfield at least once a year over a 5 year period. Always on business - law enforcement - so never had the time to enjoy the town. There was (or maybe still is) a Holiday Inn right off the I-44 exit that we'd stay at. Mirrors on the ceilings in some of the rooms! This was back in the mid-80's - and the Happy Hours were something else at that place. [yeah] Good times - at times - in Springfield, MO! We'd usually only get one night there, then off to somewhere else ....... long days, longer nights and today I wonder where the energy came from [?] [}:)]

Speaking of the Midland, I've been thinking that it would be smarter for me to drive. What's the best route to take from St. Louis [?] My Amtrak trips to KCity are really just day trips - round trips - and mostly late. So, to ensure that we could hook up, driving seems the way to do it. Your input is apprecited! [tup]

Been wondering where *** might be today. He said they were leaving for England the day after his July 15th Birthday Bash. Sure hope he and his wife didn't get involved with the latest terrorism attacks in London today. Well, let's all think positive thoughts .......[tup]

Enjoy the cool temps, good discussions, and pretty gals! [:D] Never know who will pop in, so throw a bunch of quarters from the jar over there into the Juke ....

Hey Boris leave her alone! [:-,] She doesn't want to serve you in your shed! Geesh ....... [:D]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:26 PM
Hello everyone. A cold Margarita on the rocks, please. Tom, just sit there and relax and let one of these pretty waitresses get my drink and feed the jukebox. Keep that sting iced down. Still haven't found the Trainline but I will eventually. This area has a heat warning from today until at least Sunday so take it easy.
Barndad, about 1995 Trains magazine had a great article about the Nebraska Zephyr and IRM. I found it quite informative. A couple of seasons ago, a fellow from IRM came out to the Midland and spent the day. He took several rolls of film. I was engineer that day and we had the 652 and the 142 together on the train. One of the pix he took was made into a print and is sitting here by the pc in my den right now. If memory serves, his name was Harold. Tall, burly guy with glasses. Liked to talk.
Springfield has a footbridge that was built in 1902 that spans the former North yards. It was built so people would not have to cross what was even then, busy tracks. The former North roundhouse and servicing facility was close and lots of Frisco employees lived within walking distance and Commercial Street was full of businesses that catered to their needs. Today, the bridge is a Historic Landmark and was recently restored. The businesses are gone but the street is undergoing a recovery. There is now a farmer's market at the south end parking lot of the bridge. This is about 2 miles from the house so yesterday I walked up there to check it out.( and walk off some of this middleaged spread.) I started around 0930 and was home by 1230 before the real heat of the day. Still, I got burnt everywhere there wasn't clothes and my legs are sore. Got to see one of those odd Loram machines and 2 empty northbound coal trains. There is something like 65-70 trains a day thru Spfld now and a lot of those are coal trains. Being on the bridge, I was able to examine the tops of the power and the insides of different types of coal hoppers.
It's nice and cool in here. I may just hang out here by the jukebox and keep my ears open. I might learn something and see some of the regulars, too.
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:58 AM
G'day to ya Ted and that Beefeaters, with a twist of lime, is comin' right up! [yeah] An all time favorite summertime refreshment for me .... just love 'em. Got started in another time and place in a life long ago ... Cuba was the place, prior to and during Castro. [yeah] Goes back a bit ....... My oh my, how HE is getting old! [:D]

Glad I checked the postings before setting out to take care of the issues of the day. Blankety-blank refrig/freezer is on the Fritz. What a time to go. Actually, is ANY time appropriate or convenient [?]

Carol and I had just returned from a 10-day cross-Canada rail trip aboard VIA Rail's Canadian in January 2003. When we opened the door to our home it smelled as if the entire neighborhood had camped out in our house and died. The refrigerator had. What an experience and what a wonderful time we had cleaning out - cleaning up and then trying to arrange for a replacement, etc. Ugh. [xx(]

So, this unit is relatively new - and fortunately on extended warranty. I wouldn't want Carol to have to get a night job to pay for the repairs! [}:)]

[yeah] Boris The Bossman is [#offtopic] again - so what else is new [?] Give 'em all a drink and of course, ring the ding-dong bell! [:(!]

C'mon Ted weaken! You KNOW that you'd like to take that cross-Missourah Amtrak trip with me - so check under the mattress, and pull out some of those green back silver certificates you undoubtedly have and c'mon up! [;)]

Oh [yeah] to add to the glorious start of this day, I got stung by a beast on my left elbow. Man oh man, felt it immediately and still do, about 2 hours later. Don't know what it was, but the critter came right at me, zapped and tried again on the other side. It was moving way to fast for ID - couldn't get the plate # - but I had hoped Juneau the Wonder Husky would have at least snapped it up. So, I'm iced on the elbow ........ I need a double JD on the rocks! [:(]

Remember, it's FISH 'n CHIPS Nite and you're up as Interim Chief Chef [C=:-)]! [:D]

See ya! [tup][;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:19 AM
Barndad thanks so much for the additional info. on the C.B.&Q setting and I ditto the request for more pix of same. Your "better half" is defintely the best 6 of the dozen.[(-D] Coalminer 3, I can't believe the temps. in Buffalo.[:O] Why would you want to return in November, unless you're a "Bills" fan?
Spring and early Summer in New England can bring just about any kind of weather and usually does![}:)]

Earlydiesels, hey I gotta agree on the Frisco steam out of Spfld, Mo.; it was superb. You and Rob share archeology in common. Not long ago, Rob dug up some remains of long ago abondoned R. of W. in his "neck of the woods." Those artifacts are easy to find around Tampa Bay; they are all jogging/bike trails![:(] Its a "long shot" but I'll bet a couple of the 1600's (Decs) ended up at that Gypsum mine near Carthage, MO. I know about 1632, she's near my Uncle's home (Belton, Mo). Tom is right about enticing me into a rail trek (St. L. to K.C., Mo). There's nothing I'd rather do. It's the ^#$%! r.t. flight (Tampa-St L.) that "turns me off." I'm still "running cold" from the Ireland encounter on B.A. and Lingus Air, not to mention the "shake down" and trousers sniffing Beagles at the Terminals.[oops] Oh Dan, the Espee put together an excellent video on an excursion "run" from Spokane, WA to Sacramento(?), CA. (Northern "on point"). At the end, the credits specifically stated: "No thanks to the California Highway Patrol!" I thought that had something to do with that ridiculous air horn near the boiler front?

Okay Mr. Tom, now I can enjoy that Beefeaters & Tonic.[^] BTW, I'll be in touch about some "security" issues on "hosting" from Railimages and Photobucket. Say Boris, I heard you and Leon were doing the Hungarian "two step" to Johnny Willfahrt's music after hours.[alien] Also, 2 quarts of Peppermint Schnapps are missing this morning.[;)] Give a care, see y'all later, Ted
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:18 AM
THURSDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

G’mornin’ All! We’re supposed to be flirting with the century mark today and perhaps until Monday as far as temps go …… Good times to find a cool, comfortable and friendly watering hole to escape the summer’s heat. Whaddyathink [?]

FISH 'n CHIPS Nite tonight! Ted our Interim Chief Chef [C=:-)] along with his assistant Boris of the kitchen staff, will surely conjure up something special for the menu selections. Remember, there are NO Nick's Picks until the return of our Master Chef from whereever he is or from whatever happened.

Looks like our regulars are back, minus Nick and Chris … but we’re hummin’ ‘round here! [tup]

Got some issues to attend to this AM, so Leon the Night Man will be filling in here and there … don’t let his rather large and imposing size give you the wrong impression. He’s a kind and gentle soul – unless and until someone ticks him off! Sounds just about right to me!

To the SUMMARY

QUOTE: Theodorebear
Posted: 20 July 2005, 09:26:48

I'm not sure Tom, but I seem to recall (vaguely) the missing blank to be something akin to A-holes? Mid-Wednesday a.m. and at least I've opened an account with 'photobucket.' So far, so good! Still, I'm not quite to the "uploading" stage and must take a break for helping some Seniors with transportation hassles. I won't take up space on the Thread for further instruction but Russel, Tom and Rob; you may have "mail" very soon. Please, just an iced tea for now, whilst I get the A/C running for my "mission of mercy."

Yes, there certainly are a lot of PHD's out there with "blue pencils" hacking away at everything from the Old Testament to the Kennedy Family; the former being discredited, the later- -Sainted. Don't want to go "beerserk" on politics though, it just "ain't worth it!" Hey Boris, hit the gong, this one is definately "on me."[#offtopic] Please excuse the hasty exit. I'll return this p.m. for proper greetings and salutations And one of those excellent Beefeater's Gin, tonic and a twist Tom. See you's guys a.s.a.p.!


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 20 July 2005, 09:41:01

Mornin' Ted Iced Tea [?] [yeah] - Well, that'll rot your pipes - but I'm sure we can find some 'round here! Boris check in and under your shed, must be some fixin's in there somewhere .....

Oh [yeah] (3) is always and forever more, A-holes - but every now 'n then, I like to slide in a new one ....... . You are correct, of course, this thread ain't about politics nor should it be. Wasn't necessarily intended to go down that road, but there surely is a tie in. Revisionists, no matter what the persuasian, seem to have made some drammatic inroads into text books, et al. Why, we've got generations of people who actually BELIEVE that when Hollywood puts out a movie depticing an event from the past, that it is Gospel. Man oh man .... I think I need an Iced Tea - with a double shot of JD!

Good luck with your photo posting and perhaps that URL Russell provided may be a bit more friendly than RailImages. Hope so ......

See ya later!
Tom


QUOTE: earlydiesels
Posted: 20 July 2005, 14:02:40

Hello everyone! A Margarita on the rocks, please. I have been watching from a distance so now I have some replies to respond to.
Tom, I still haven't found my newest Trainline magazine. I can't even remember which rr was selling the RDCs.
Trolleyboy, I haven't heard anything about replacing the stolen horns. A temporary replacement was cobbed from exATSF 44 ton GE #460 which needs new trucks. It is a single note horn that I am told sounds like a pregnant moose. We are required to have horns and bells to operate over crossings. BTW, I used to do American Civil War reenacting. I was Union infantry and also was on the cannon crew at Wilson's Creek National Battlefield several years ago.
Barndad, loved the pix of the E5 and the Nebraska Zephyr. I would really love to tour this train and the loco. Does the E5 have 24 air or does it have that HSC air? With the 1630 around, do you all have any self guarding frogs??
Theodorebear, those Frisco Firefly Pacifics were quite the lookers. They were rebuilt here in Springfield. The shops here were full of very gifted artisans. Even if I wasn't from Spfld I would declare Frisco steam the cleanest, most balanced, and best maintained in the country! The Espee 4449 came from Lima with a air horn. Look on the skyline cowl near the stack. I observed this in 1976 when she pulled the Freedom Train and I also have a vinyl album from the time in which Doyle Mccormack alternated between the steam whistle and the single note horn.
According to my collection of books and other stuff, 5 Russian Decapods exist from the Frisco. I have seen 1621 @ MOT in St Louis and 1632 at Smoky Hill Ry in Belton, Mo. I haven't heard about if we are going to replace the stolen air horns. Both locos are privately owned so it may be a matter of liability. Both the Eunits were on auction until 5July but the owners did not get the price they wanted so we still have them for the meantime.We are still looking for the correct shades for the baggage cart. I posted this question on all 3 of Kalmbach's forums and just received a handful of replies.
Tom, thanks for the plug from the past. Come ride the rr when I'm engineer and you will get a cab ride. Talked to the rr's General Manager last night. We had over 17,000 riders for Thomas this time. That should help the budget. Now if we could get the dinner train going. We will be at the Midland this weekend and I will be running. The monthly meeting of the Board of Directors will be Saturday evening on the train. Talk about pressure! I will really have to watch my train handling skills!
Well, I've babbled enough for now so I will leave with this somber note. James Doohan, who played Scotty on the original Star Trek, died at age 85. He was a veteran of Canada's armed forces and a wounded veteran of DDay.


QUOTE: coalminer3
Posted: 20 July 2005, 14:14:47

Back at last! Round for the house and here's a roll of quarters for the jukebox. We're back after our trip north. I've been reading a few of the recent posts talking abt. Buffalo and all I can say is that there was day after day of 90 degree heat while we were there - worst I've seen in a long time for that part of the country. Can't wait until we go back up in November. The lake is so warm now that it'll be a giant snow machine when cooler weather reappears. There was record-breaking cold for this time of year while we were in New England. I won't even discuss the Red Sox except to say that it's a lot easier to win games now instead of having to deal with that sort of thing in October...

Did some looking around at the remains of the BR&P while I was in NY. It's hard to find it in the weeds north of West Valley, but it's still there if you know where to look. It is sad, however to see all of the rr crossbucks with "exempt" signs on them. Also, for other coal folks in the gorup, there's an interesting map of L&NB-served mines in the most recent trains; brought back more than a few memories.

Well, glad to be back, and I'll get out of here for now.

Work safe


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 20 July 2005, 15:59:34

G'day earlydiesels Dan Looks like your back with us ... two days, two visits! Glad to know you are taking the time to catch up .... hope the SUMMARIES make it easier.

A Margarita on the rocks - comin' up! Boris have you seen Margarita lately [?]

Just curious about those RDC manufacturer's numbers. I like to keep track of there whereabouts, especially the ones that were run on the B&M - CP - CN - VIA Rail and BC Rail. Oh yeah, Dominion Atlantic (CP) too.

One of these days I'm going to take you up on your offer of a cab ride! I've never had the opportunity and surely would love it. Tried to pry Ted out of Florida for an Amtrak trip to KCity with me .... thought for awhile that we might do it ... but. Anyway, I'll be sure to let you know when I can get away and perhaps our schedules will work out - like to hook up with Russell too, of course.

Enjoy the day!
Tom


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 20 June 2005, 16:09:10

G'day and [#welcome] back coalminer 3 been wondering where in heck you've been! That cold one over there is for you ....... Thanx for the quarters by the way; Boris put them in the jar over by the Juke, will ya please [?] By the by, as a regular 'round here, we haven't got a name to attach to you, other than your cyber handle. So, what do you prefer [?]

You've got lots of catching up to do, and as with my advice to earlydiesels Dan check out the SUMMARIES they should help speed up the process ......... [yeah]

In a life a long time ago, I recall being in Oswego over a longer weekend than planned. A buddy and I met a couple of gals in NYC back in the 50's who were going to the teacher's college in Oswego. As one thing led to another, we accepted their offer to spend a weekend with them.

So, off we drove from NYC to that far away place - can't remember if there even was a NY State Thruway back then - if there was, it was realtivey new. Anyway, we got there - tired, but being young and all of that - rarin' to go. We had a great time.

End of story [?] Not quite. On the morning that we were supposed to leave, we awoke to snow right up to the SECOND STORY windowsill of the place we were staying at. All we could see outside was white and the TOPS of telephone poles and some wires. Needless to say, we were going to be AWOL and no way could we get back in time.

All worked out well - but I'll never forget the first experience with what today is pretty well known as Lake effect snow.

[yeah] Boris you can ring the ding-dong bell, I KNOW I'm [#offtopic]! Ain't no way I'm making money lately ........

See ya and nice to have you back!
Tom


QUOTE: barndad
Posted: 20 Jul 2005, 22:07:53

Good evening all. I can only stay for a few minutes.
Theodorebear, Trolleyboy and Earlydiesels, my signature pic shows the Nebraska Zephyr running under electric wires, but it's not connected. As I said, the locomotive is the Silver Pilot. The consist is the Venus, Vesta, Minerva, Ceres and Juno. This pic was taken in front of the depot at the IRM. We've got wires running overhead on most of the track we own, as the IRM really started as a Trolley museum. I'll get some more pics of the Zephyr if you would like to see them. Here's a pic of the galley a few weeks ago when we had dinner in the dining car.
//NOTE: Scroll up for pix//

The pretty lady in red happens to be my wife! She's in a lot of the pictures I took that evening.
Like I said ... I'll get some more pics for you (minus my wife) soon! Niters!

Doubt that the galley ever looked this good in it’s operating days! [swg]
Tom

QUOTE: passengerfan
Posted: 21 July 2005, 07:15:58

Good Morning All guess I'll have a coffee and a pastry or two from the "Mentor Bakery.
Barndad,Have been curious about the museum Zephyr for some time now. So the only cars missing are two articulated cars 4850 PSYCHE and 4825 MINERVA. I have a question are the interiors close to as built (restored) in appearance or have they been updated or modernized? My notes show that the two other cars were scrapped and the postwar Baggage Car 906 ARGO went to Amtrak and may still be their today. Interesting to nate that the Train of the Goddesses operated more years in Nebraska Zephyr service than it did in Twin Zephyr service. Have seen a least one movie with the Zephyr in it and it looked like restoration to original.. Some day I have to get back their and see this magnificent train. Have seen the Pioneer Zephyr, and several other older Zephyrs including the Mark Twain Zephyr and 9902 Zephyr. Yours is operational and that makes all the difference in the world. Congratulations to your museum they have done an excellent job. To all of those restoring locomotives etc I have great respect. I belong to the California State Railroad Museum and several Railroad Societies. That keeps me busy with work and ongoing book project. By the way Twin Zephyrs are given space and credit for two inaugurals in my upcoming book as they originally entered Twin Zephyr service and as they entered Nebraska Zephyr service.

Time to start getting ready for work so will close for now.

Stop back in for lunch! You’ll be ready for a break then ……[swg]
Tom
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That’s it! [tup][;)]
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Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:15 AM
Good Morning All guess I'll have a coffee and a pastry or two from the "Mentor Bakery. Barndad,Have been curious about the museum Zephyr for some time now. So the only cars missing are two articulated cars 4850 PSYCHE and 4825 MINERVA. I have a question are the interiors close to as built (restored) in appearance or have they been updated or modernized? My notes show that the two other cars were scrapped and the postwar Baggage Car 906 ARGO went to Am,trak and may still be their today. Interesting to nate that the Train of the Goddesses operated more years in Nebraska Zephyr service than it did in Twin Zephyr service. Have seen a least one movie with the Zephyr in it and it looked like restoration to original.. Some day I have to get back their and see this magnificent train. Have seen the Pioneer Zephyr, and several other older Zephyrs including the Mark Twain Zephyr and 9902 Zephyr. Yours is operational and that makes all the difference in the world. Congradulations to your museum they have done an excellent job. To all of those restoring locomotives etc I have great respect. I belong to the California State Railroad Museum and several Railroad Societies. That keeps me busy with work and ongoing book project. By the way Twin Zephyrs are given space and credit for two inaugurals in my upcoming book as they originally entered Twin Zephyr service and as they entered Nebraska Zephyr service.
Time to start getting ready for work so will close for now.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:07 PM
Good evening all. I can only stay for a few minutes.
Theodorebear, Trolleyboy and Earlydiesels, my signature pic shows the Nebraska Zephyr running under electric wires, but it's not connected. As I said, the locomotive is the Silver Pilot. The consist is the Venus, Vesta, Minerva, Ceres and Juno. This pic was taken in front of the depot at the IRM. We've got wires running overhead on most of the track we own, as the IRM really started as a Trolley museum. I'll get some more pics of the Zephyr if you would like to see them. Here's a pic of the galley a few weeks ago when we had dinner in the dining car.

The pretty lady in red happens to be my wife! She's in a lot of the pictures I took that evening.
Like I said ... I'll get some more pics for you (minus my wife) soon! Niters!
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:09 PM
G'day and [#welcome] back coalminer 3 been wondering where in heck you've been! [swg] That cold one over there is for you ....... Thanx for the quarters by the way; Boris put them in the jar over by the Juke, will ya please [?] By the by, as a regular 'round here, we haven't got a name to attach to you, other than your cyber handle. So, what do you prefer [?] [;)]

You've got lots of catching up to do, and as with my advice to earlydiesels Dan check out the SUMMARIES they should help speed up the process ......... [yeah]

In a life a long time ago, I recall being in Oswego over a longer weekend than planned. A buddy and I met a couple of gals in NYC back in the 50's who were going to the teacher's college in Oswego. As one thing led to another, we accepted their offer to spend a weekend with them.

So, off we drove from NYC to that far away place - can't remember if there even was a NY State Thruway back then - if there was, it was realtivey new. Anyway, we got there - tired, but being young and all of that - rarin' to go. We had a great time.

End of story [?] Not quite. On the morning that we were supposed to leave, we awoke to snow right up to the SECOND STORY windowsill of the place we were staying at. All we could see outside was white and the TOPS of telephone poles and some wires. Needless to say, we were going to be AWOL and no way could we get back in time.

All worked out well - but I'll never forget the first experience with what today is pretty well known as Lake effect snow.

[yeah] Boris you can ring the ding-dong bell, I KNOW I'm [#offtopic]! Ain't no way I'm making money lately ........ [:(]

See ya and nice to have you back! [tup]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:59 PM
G'day earlydiesels Dan Looks like your back with us ... two days, two visits! [tup] Glad to know you are taking the time to catch up .... hope the SUMMARIES make it easier. [swg]

A Margarita on the rocks - comin' up! Boris have you seen Margarita lately [?] [}:)]

Just curious about those RDC manufacturer's numbers. I like to keep track of there whereabouts, especially the ones that were run on the B&M - CP - CN - VIA Rail and BC Rail. Oh yeah, Dominion Atlantic (CP) too.

One of these days I'm going to take you up on your offer of a cab ride! I've never had the opportunity and surely would love it. Tried to pry Ted out of Florida for an Amtrak trip to KCity with me .... thought for awhile that we might do it ... but. Anyway, I'll be sure to let you know when I can get away and perhaps our schedules will work out - like to hook up with Russell too, of course.

Enjoy the day!
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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:14 PM
Back at last! Round for the house and here's a roll of quarters for the jukebox. We're back after our trip north. I've been reading a few of the recent posts talking abt. Buffalo and all I can say is that there was day after day of 90 degree heat while we were there - worst I've seen in a long time for that part of the country. Can't wait until we go back up in November. The lake is so warm now that it'll be a giant snow machine when cooler weather reappears. There was record-breaking cold for this time of year while we were in New England. I won't even discuss the Red Sox except to say that it's a lot easier to win games now instead of having to deal with that sort of thing in October...

Did some looking around at the remains of the BR&P while I was in NY. It's hard to find it in the weeds north of West Valley, but it's still there if you know where to look. It is sad, however to see all of the rr crossbucks with "exempt" signs on them. Also, for other coal folks in the gorup, there's an interesting map of L&NB-served mines in the most recent trains; brought back more than a few memories.

Well, glad to be back, and I'll get out of here for now.

Work safe
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:02 PM
Hello everyone! A Margarita on the rocks, please. I have been watching from a distance so now I have some replies to respond to.
Tom, I still haven't found my newest Trainline magazine. I can't even remember which rr was selling the RDCs.
Trolleyboy, I haven't heard anything about replacing the stolen horns. A temporary replacement was cobbed from exATSF 44 ton GE #460 which needs new trucks. It is a single note horn that I am told sounds like a pregnant moose. We are required to have horns and bells to operate over crossings. BTW, I used to do American Civil War reenacting. I was Union infantry and also was on the cannon crew at Wilson's Creek National Battlefield several years ago.
Barndad, loved the pix of the E5 and the Nebraska Zephyr. I would really love to tour this train and the loco. Does the E5 have 24 air or does it have that HSC air? With the 1630 around, do you all have any self guarding frogs??
Theodorebear, those Frisco Firefly Pacifics were quite the lookers. They were rebuilt here in Springfield. The shops here were full of very gifted artisans. Even if I wasn't from Spfld I would declare Frisco steam the cleanest, most balanced, and best maintained in the country! The Espee 4449 came from Lima with a air horn. Look on the skyline cowl near the stack. I observed this in 1976 when she pulled the Freedom Train and I also have a vinyl album from the time in which Doyle Mccormack alternated between the steam whistle and the single note horn.
According to my collection of books and other stuff, 5 Russian Decapods exist from the Frisco. I have seen 1621 @ MOT in St Louis and 1632 at Smoky Hill Ry in Belton, Mo. I haven't heard about if we are going to replace the stolen air horns. Both locos are privately owned so it may be a matter of liability. Both the Eunits were on auction until 5July but the owners did not get the price they wanted so we still have them for the meantime.We are still looking for the correct shades for the baggage cart. I posted this question on all 3 of Kalmbach's forums and just received a handful of replies.
Tom, thanks for the plug from the past. Come ride the rr when I'm engineer and you will get a cab ride. Talked to the rr's General Manager last night. We had over 17,000 riders for Thomas this time. That should help the budget. Now if we could get the dinner train going. We will be at the Midland this weekend and I will be running. The monthly meeting of the Board of Directors will be Saturday evening on the train. Talk about pressure! I will really have to watch my train handling skills!
Well, I've babbled enough for now so I will leave with this somber note. James Doohan, who played Scotty on the original Star Trek, died at age 85. He was a veteran of Canada's armed forces and a wounded veteran of DDay.
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:41 AM
Mornin' Ted Iced Tea [?][?] - [yeah] Well, that'll rot your pipes - but I'm sure we can find some 'round here! Boris check in and under your shed, must be some fixin's in there somewhere ..... [}:)]

Oh [yeah] (3) is always and forever more, A-holes - but every now 'n then, I like to slide in a new one ....... [swg]. You are correct, of course, this thread ain't about politics nor should it be. Wasn't necessarily intended to go down that road, but there surely is a tie in. Revisionists, no matter what the persuasian, seem to have made some drammatic inroads into text books, et al. Why, we've got generations of people who actually BELIEVE that when Hollywood puts out a movie depticing an event from the past, that it is Gospel. Man oh man .... I think I need an Iced Tea - with a double shot of JD! [}:)]

Good luck with your photo posting and perhaps that URL Russell provided may be a bit more friendly than RailImages. Hope so ...... [tup]

See ya later!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:26 AM
I'm not sure Tom, but I seem to recall (vaguely) the missing blank to be something akin to A-holes?[:-^] Mid-Wednesday a.m. and at least I've opened an account with 'photobucket.' So far, so good![^] Still, I'm not quite to the "uploading" stage and must take a break for helping some Seniors with transportation hassles. I won't take up space on the Thread for further instruction but Russel, Tom and Rob; you may have "mail" very soon. Please, just an iced tea for now, whilst I get the A/C running for my "mission of mercy."

Yes, there certainly are a lot of PHD's out there with "blue pencils" hacking away at everything from the Old Testament to the Kennedy Family; the former being discredited, the later- -Sainted. Don't want to go "beerserk" on politics though, it just "ain't worth it!"[tdn] Hey Boris, hit the gong, this one is definately "on me."[#offtopic] Please excuse the hasty exit.[:I] I'll return this p.m. for proper greetings and salutations[:D] And one of those excellent Beefeater's Gin, tonic and a twist Tom.[^] See you's guys a.s.a.p.!
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:39 AM
WEDNESDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

Mid-week Greetings Gents! Halfway there – pull up a stool and help yourself to the morning treats, once again provided by The Mentor Village Bakery. Light breakfasts are on the menu, right over there, and the coffee’s fresh …….

No winners in the QUIZ, so I’ll just keep the prize for ‘nother time.

Time for the SUMMARY, again with LIMITED smilies, graphics and photos.

QUOTE: Theodorebear
Posted: 19 July 2005, 10:19:34

Holy Toro and weed eaters eveywhere! Tom, a Molsins Pilsner please before I perish from heat postration! I don't know how Gunns and barndad manage in these hot summer days. Crawling around inside a tender or boiler during 90 deg. F. heat is not my idea of "a day at the beach." Its probably hotter than 90 F. in N.M., right Gunns?

Yeah Tom, the "Our" in "Our" Place is getting to feel real friendly now. Its really neat when this "Thread" is shared by such a group of dedicated and astute people having common interests, who don't mind having some fun along the way. I haven't found any site quite like this one for having a good laugh at ourselves' or eachother without risking malice or rankor. Let's keep it that way for some great times down the rails ahead.

Earlydiesels Dan did you locate the proper shade for R.E.A. green yet? Those freight and luggage wagons used on passenger platforms (as I recall) were the same color green as the R.E.A. {International) delivery trucks. They also had red (Fire Engine) spoked wheels while the underside and tongue was black (if memory serves). Don't let's forget the diamond shaped logo (one on front and one on sides) of the wagon's slat and stake sides. This would be circa 1940 thru 1950's. The original steel wheels were replaced with pneumatic, rubber tires (not sure when?) The small tractors that pulled trains of these wagons where painted yellow or gray at K.C. Union Station during those years. I've seen them (tractors) painted with diagoanal yellow strips on a black grill as well.

Okay, I'm a.w.o.l. for a just quick beer from the "Jungle." Hope to see all of you later for a nice "tall one" when we can relax and "kick around" some good train stories and legends. Take it easy, its hotter than a Fireman's drawers coaling the El Capitan in the Mojave. Cheers, Ted


QUOTE: Trainnut484
Posted: 19 July 2005, 12:03:49

Hello all . I'll have a sammich and a Miller Lite to wash it down with. Just taking a midday break.

Ted and Tom, don't overdue the safari exploring of the jungle there. If you do, maybe Boris knows CPR . Still waiting for those KC Union Station pics. I've thought of what the answer could be of the "Mentor quiz", and havent' got there yet.

Dan, have you guys at Midland located replacement horns yet[?] Maybe a GOOOOOGLE search will provide some leads.

barndad and Gunns, great pics of your hard labors . The big fantasy is having 2903 and 2926 doublehead, and 3751 joining somewhere in the festivities. I would even settle for a lineup of the three

Geez Leweeze, like all good things, breaks have to come to and end . Gotta get on with the rest of my day.


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 19 July 2005, 13:23:31

Yo Ted Back for more, eh [?]

There was a time, a long time ago in another life, when I considered buying into a bar. It was a local establishment located in a small town in eastern Virginia. Most of the customers were sailors, truckers, and business people. Really an interesting mix. The theme of the place was centered around pretzels, of all things. Hence the name, Pretzel Barrel. It was a beer joint supreme with some great lunch specials and nice steaks in the evening. (Are you noting the similarities [?]) Over time I became fast friends with the owner and his wife (co-owners). We discussed a partnership whereby my wife and I would operate the place for a time, then switch off, etc. Sounded interesting. I was thinking about military retirement back then, so I pursued the thought.

After spending a bit of time with my friend and experiencing what must be done in order to keep a bar not only open, but operating to the satisifaction of one and all - it became apparent to me that one must be married - not to a female human being - but to the bar! Absolutely no way did I want to spend the rest of my working life coming home at 3 AM and getting back to the place by 11 AM to open for lunch. Nope - not for this guy.

Ring the bell, Boris way [#offtopic], drinks all 'round on me!

Enjoy the rest of this day, and hope you'll take it slow out in the heat! We're air conditioned ya know! Ready for 'nother one [?]
Tom


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 19 July 2005, 13:31:44

Howdy Trainnut484 Russell appreciate your stopping by .... Boris bring the man the Special while I pour the brew!

Man was it ever hot out in the south forty this morning. I normally fill 7 or 8 32 gal. containers with grass clippings, today only 2 1/2 - and that's skipping last week. It's really been a different kind of summer 'round these parts. Actually, this old world is experiencing some changes that will surely make life a heck of a lot different for many, many people.

I know Ted is working on putting together some pix for us all - hopefully that KC Station will be the centerpiece. Glad you remembered to bug him, he needs that!

Okay - enjoy your break and see ya soon!
Tom


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 19 July 2005, 14:48:06
QUIZ question: Where did the Mentor in The Mentor Village Bakery come from [?]

The answer is in this photo: (click to enlarge)
//Note: Scroll up for pix//

Thanx to those who gave it a try!

Tom


QUOTE: Theodorebear
Posted: 19 July 2005, 20:03:57

Duhh, now I get it...I don't think? Mentor Bakery=Mentor mystery+"click=??? Back again after a relentless battle with creepers, slime vines, punk trees and barking neighbor's hounds. Oh well, just another day in "Paradise." Tom, a Gin (of your choice) and tonic wouldn't kill me when you have the chance please Sir, thanks. Rarely, do I "come back for more" three times in one day (even Kenny Rogers knows better). However, I decided to plead my own case for the pix I promised. Here it is: I downloaded early pix digitzed on a Wal Mart C.D. to my P.C. and tried to upload them to "Rail Images." Yes, I opened an account and followed the instructions but somehow "blew it" with every attempt. After a delightful 3 hours of going nearly cross-eyed, I hit the Start button and "skated" not caring if the C.P.U. imploded. Am I likely to spend $300 to $400 on a digital camera "rig" so my Pals at "Our" Place can view my mediocre modeling efforts? "...in a Pig's posterior I will!" So, I can use "snail mail" for whom-so-ever wants prints if you e-mail me at my "addy" (no S. or H. charges).

Its late and I still have to WD-40 my lawn implements befor retiring. And, Tom, I promise not to buy Boris a Conductor's cap. He would probably think he is Leonard Bernstein. BTW, who is Leon, your new "night man?" Auf wieder sehen Y'all, Ted


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: Today, 20:27:17

Evenin' Ted Three times is a charm, or so it's said. Gin & Tonic - what a great summer drink - tall glass with a slice of lime, of course! How's Beefeaters strike ya

Okay - let's get this picture thing ironed out. (1) Presume you received the Email I sent you regarding "how to.": (2) Send me an Email describing the difficulties. (3) WE can Do this!

Leon the Night Man was described in today's SUMMARY Additional info Well, he's a man of very few words (and wardrobe)! He loves the apron for behind the bar - between he and Boris we're sure to have some fun with these guys! The man is a genius when it comes to drinkoglogy the "Our Place term for mixing drinks - we don't refer to it as mixology - much too sophisticated for this joint!

Thanx for stopping by and chill out for the rest of the evening .........

Tom


QUOTE: Trainnut484

Evening all. I'll have a Miller Lite please...thanks.

Ted, here's a link for you to create a photo album:

www.photobucket.com

It's easy to sign up. Soon you'll be posting pictures in no time

Take care,
Russell


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 19 July 2005, 20:40:43
Evenin' Russell Between the two of us, we'll get Ted up and running with those pix!

Appreciate the URL for PhotoBucket ... I'm using Railimages as do many folks involved in posting rail pix ... Once established, it's really a piece of cake. Getting that first one done seems to be a bugger - I had similar experiences to those that apparently Ted has experienced.

I've got the Cardinals and Brewers game on large screen TV #2 .... the Cards are really something again this year. Watching Sir Albert at the bat is unreal. This guy is absolutely a wonder ...... KCity product (by way of the Dominican Republic). Nice personality and comes across real well.

Usually I'm listening to the games on the radio while I get some model railroading in .... tonight's the exception. Kinda worked my aging body a bit hard in the heat today with the mowing and trip to the hardware megastore for a zillion pounds of top soil, etc. Should do those things when it's cooler. [censored]
Enough of that ..... have another Miller Lite on the house! Ring the bell, Boris [#offtopic] again! [banghead]

Ah, I see Leon the Night Man has arrived, so I’ll check out ‘til the ‘morrow.

G’nite! [zzz]
Tom


QUOTE: trolleyboy
Posted: 20 Jujly 2005, 00:27:09

Good evening everyone. Sorry I missed the Monday breakfast Tom er Leon ( I like the overalls straw hat and apron look it suits.) One question though does the health department worry about the fact he's serving food and drink in bare feet though? Where have I been? That's the question I'm sures been on everyones mind( including mine )Well spent Sat evening and Sunday in Niagara-on - the -Lake at Fort George National Historic Site. It was the war of 1812 renactment weekend,amid the rain and thunder and high heat we managed to send the invading Yankee hordes back south. I'll post some shots once I've loaded them to photiobucket. Long story short as my profile will suggest I'm a history buff from way back. I actually worked at Fort George as an historical interpreter for two summers. This weekend reintroduced me to some old friends ( 600 costumed interpreters with cannons muskets and black powder all weekend long) I may have to rejoin the fray as it were.the Guelph based Glengarry Canadian light infantry need more bodies and I did enjoy it as a job so why not as a hobby besides I can use the exercise. Sorry Leon I'm next rounds mine.

Passengeral Thanks for the info, the last time i saw the Buffalo cars they were on what looked to be a barge just off the I190.No windows in sad shape. This was 1996 or so (not been back to Buffalo since )The restaurant owner never got off the ground at that point from there on I'm not sure.

Gunns & Barndad Nice pictures gents, it puts our shop to shame, much more work happening there than at the HCRY.

Dan If you hadn't found your horns or tracked a replacement down yet perhaps a suitable replacement could be had from an existing railway. Most will sell locomotives and parts that are surplus. For instance CN has a leasing arm know as CANAC that sells off old loco's and equipment either to shortlines, museums or scrap dealers. I'm sure the US roads have something similar, a thought anyway. Well I'm on crew tomorrow so to bed I must go. Ted drop me an email on your picture woes as well, if I can figure it out with Tom's help I'm sure that we can get you "posted" Nite guys. Rob

Hi Rob Well, given that it is summer, it’s to be expected that those of you with enormous amounts of free time (and wealth) would be taking off for some fun! [swg]

So, you kicked some Yankee butt did ya? Not very many people that I’ve met in my country know about the War of 1812 insofar as the U.S. and Canada were concerned. Most of the focus is elsewhere – and perhaps rightly so. The Brits did burn the White House after all, etc. Nevertheless, Revisionist Historians tick me off – kinda like (1) Warm beer (2) Wet toilet paper and …….. fill in the blank! [swg]

Not to worry about Leon – ‘round here it’s plainly stated, No shoes, no shirt, no service! – that goes for behind the bar as well! He wears the boots I gave him nearly ‘round the clock. Just loves those boondockers.

Don’t be a stranger ……[tup]
Tom
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That’s it! [tup][;)]
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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:27 AM
Good evening everyone. sorry I missed the monday breakfast Tom er Leon ( I like the overalls straw hat and apron look it suits.) One question though does the health department worry about the fact he's serving food and drink in bare feet though? Where have I been? That's the question I'm sures been on everyones mind( including mine )Well spent Sat evening and Sunday in Niagara-on - the -Lake at Fort george National Historic Site. It was the war of 1812 renactment weekend,amid the rain and thunder and high heat we managed to send the invading yankee hords back south. I'll post some shots once I've loaded them to photiobucket. Long story short as my profile will suggest I'm a history buff from way back. I actually worked at Fort George as an historical interpreter for two summers. This weekend reintroduced me to some old friends ( 600 costumed interpreters with cannons muskets and black powder all weekend long) I may have to rejoin the fray as it were.the Guelph based Glengarry canadian light infantry need more bodies and I did enjoy it as a job so why not as a hobby besides I can use the exercise. Sorry Leon I'm [#offtopic] next rounds mine.passengeralThanks for the info, the last time i saw the Buffalo cars they were on what looked to be a barge just off the I190.No windows in sad shape. This was 1996 or so ( not been back to Buffalo since )The restaurant owner never got off the ground at that point from there on I'm not sure. Gunns & Barndad Nice pictures gents, it puts our shop to shame,much more work happening there than at the HCRY.Dan If you hadn't found your horns or tracked a replacement down yet perhaps a suitable replacement could be had from an existing railway. Most will sell locomotives and parts that are surplus. For instance CN has a leasing arm know as CANAC that sells off old loco's and equipment either to shortlines, museums or scrap dealers. I'm sure the US roads have something similar, a thought anyway. Well I'm on crew tomorrow so to bed I must go. Ted drop me an email on your picture woes as well, if I can figure it out with Tom's help i'm sure that we can get you "posted" Nite guys. Rob
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:40 PM
Evenin' Russell Between the two of us, we'll get Ted up and running with those pix! [tup]

Appreciate the URL for PhotoBucket ... I'm using Railimages as do many folks involved in posting rail pix ... Once established, it's really a piece of cake. Getting that first one done seems to be a bugger - I had similar experiences to those that apparently Ted has experienced.

I've got the Cardinals and Brewers game on large screen TV #2 .... the Cards are really something again this year. Watching Sir Albert at the bat is unreal. This guy is absolutely a wonder ...... KCity product (by way of the Dominican Republic. Nice personality and comes across real well.

Usually I'm listening to the games on the radio while I get some model railroading in .... tonight's the exception. Kinda worked my aging body a bit hard in the heat today with the mowing and trip to the hardware megastore for a zillion pounds of top soil, etc. Should do those things when it's cooler. [censored]

Enough of that ..... have another Miller Lite on the house! [tup][;)] Ring the bell, Boris [#offtopic] again! [banghead]

Ah, I see Leon the Night Man has arrived, so I'll check out 'til the 'morrow.

G'nite! [zzz]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:27 PM
Evening all. I'll have a Miller Lite please...thanks.

Ted, here's a link for you to create a photo album:

www.photobucket.com

It's easy to sign up. Soon you'll be posting pictures in no time [tup]

Take care,

Russell

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:27 PM
Evenin' Ted Three times is a charm, or so it's said. Gin & Tonic - what a great summer drink - tall glass with a slice of lime, of course! [tup] How's Beefeaters strike ya [?]

Okay - let's get this picture thing ironed out. (1) Presume you received the Email I sent you regarding "how to.": (2) Send me an Email describing the difficulties. (3) WE can Do this! [tup][;)]

Leon the Night Man was described in today's SUMMARY Additional info [?] Well, he's a man of very few words (and wardrobe)! He loves the apron for behind the bar - between he and Boris we're sure to have some fun with these guys! The man is a genius when it comes to drinkoglogy the "Our Place term for mixing drinks - we don't refer to it as mixology - much too sophisticated for this joint! [swg]

Thanx for stopping by and chill out for the rest of the evening .........

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:03 PM
Duhh, now I get it...I don't think? Mentor Bakery=Mentor mystery+"click=???[banghead] Back again after a relentless battle with creepers, slime vines, punk trees and barking neighbor's hounds.[V] Oh well, just another day in "Paradise." Tom, a Gin (of your choice) and tonic wouldn't kill me when you have the chance please Sir, thanks.[tup] Rarely, do I "come back for more" three times in one day (even Kenny Rogers knows better). However, I decided to plead my own case for the pix I promised.[:I] Here it is: I downloaded early pix digitzed on a Wal Mart C.D. to my P.C. and tried to upload them to "Rail Images." Yes, I opened an account and followed the instructions but somehow "blew it" with every attempt. After a delightful 3 hours of going nearly cross-eyed, I hit the Start button and "skated" not caring if the C.P.U. imploded.[:(!] Am I likely to spend $300 to $400 on a digital camera "rig" so my Pals at "Our" Place can view my mediocre modeling efforts? "...in a Pig's posterior I will!" So, I can use "snail mail" for whom-so-ever wants prints if you e-mail me at my "addy" (no S. or H. charges).

Its late and I still have to WD-40 my lawn implements befor retiring.[zzz] And, Tom, I promise not to buy Boris a Conductor's cap. He would probably think he is Leonard Bernstein.[alien] BTW, who is Leon, your new "night man?" Auf wieder sehen Y'all, Ted
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:48 PM
QUIZ question: Where did the Mentor in The Mentor Village Bakery come from [?]

The answer is in this photo: (click to enlarge) [swg]



Thanx to those who gave it a try! [;)]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:31 PM
Howdy Trainnut484 Russell appreciate your stopping by .... Boris bring the man the Special while I pour the brew!

Man was it ever hot out in the south forty this morning. I normally fill 7 or 8 32 gal. containers with grass clippings, today only 2 1/2 - and that's skipping last week. It's really been a different kind of summer 'round these parts. Actually, this old world is experiencing some changes that will surely make life a heck of a lot different for many, many people.

I know Ted is working on putting together some pix for us all - hopefully that KC Station will be the centerpiece. Glad you remembered to bug him, he needs that! [tup] [swg]

Okay - enjoy your break and see ya soon!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:23 PM
Yo Ted Back for more, eh [?] [tup]

There was a time, a long time ago in another life, when I considered buying into a bar. It was a local establishment located in a small town in eastern Virginia. Most of the customers were sailors, truckers, and business people. Really an interesting mix. The theme of the place was centered around pretzels, of all things. Hence the name, Pretzel Barrel. It was a beer joint supreme with some great lunch specials and nice steaks in the evening. (Are you noting the similarities [?]) Over time I became fast friends with the owner and his wife (co-owners). We discussed a partnership whereby my wife and I would operate the place for a time, then switch off, etc. Sounded interesting. I was thinking about military retirement back then, so I pursued the thought.

After spending a bit of time with my friend and experiencing what must be done in order to keep a bar not only open, but operating to the satisifaction of one and all - it became apparent to me that one must be married - not to a female human being - but to the bar! Absolutely no way did I want to spend the rest of my working life coming home at 3 AM and getting back to the place by 11 AM to open for lunch. Nope - not for this guy.

Ring the bell, Boris way [#offtopic], drinks all 'round on me! [;)]

Enjoy the rest of this day, and hope you'll take it slow out in the heat! We're air conditioned ya know! [tup] [swg] Ready for 'nother one [?]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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