"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and all! I'll have 2 light breakfasts and some bandages in anticipation og the cuts I'll most liely be geeting when I install a new sink, garbage disposal and dishwasher later today. What a way to spend a Saturday! DId someone mention the Chicago & Eastern Illinois yesterday? Remember these pay scales from page 213?

From the pages of “The Railway Conductor” September 1931

Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Company, March 17th, 1894

Wages and Rules Governing the Employment of Conductors and Flagmen, Baggagemen, and Brakemen

Through Passenger Service
Conductors ………….. $100 per month
Baggagemen ………… $57.50 per month
Baggagemen, on trains 5 and 6, who handle baggage and express $ 60 per month
Brakemen …………… $48.00 per month

Suburban
Conductors ………….. $95 per month
Brakemen …………… $52.50 per month
Flagmen …………….. $45 per month

St. Louis Division
Conductors …………. $90 per month
Baggagemen ……….. $50 per month

Through Freight Service
Conductors …………. $3 per 100 miles
Baggagemen ……….. $2 per 100 miles

Local or Way Freight Runs
Conductors …………. $85 per month
Brakemen …………… $57.50 per month

Nice post on the CF7's Mr. Rob. Are you all set for Sunday photo posting tomorrow? I am! And now ..... for my morning groaner:

[:I] It was November, and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was a Chief in a modern society he had never been taught the old secrets. When he looked at the sky, he couldn’t tell what the winter was going to be like. Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he told his tribe that it was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared. But being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to the phone booth and called the National Weather Service and asked “Is the coming winter going to be cold?” “It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold,” the meteorologist at the weather service responded. So the chief went back to his tribe and told them to collect even more firewood in order to be prepared. A week later, the chief called the National Weather Service again. “Does it still look like it’s going to be a very cold winter?” “Yes,” the man at the National Weather Service again replied “it’s going to be a very cold winter”. The Chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every piece of firewood they could find. Two weeks later, the Chief called the National Weather Service again and asked “Are you absolutely sure that this winter is going to be very cold? “Absolutely,” replied the man, it’s looking more and more that this is going to be one of the coldest winters ever. “How can you be so sure?” the Chief asked. The weatherman replied, “The Indians are collecting firewood like crazy.” [:I]

[siberianmo]

We open at 6 AM (all times zones!). (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]

SATURDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

The weekend has arrived! Check out the freshly brewed hot coffee and the pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery! Then take a look at our Menu Board with some great selections for our <light> and <traditional> breakfasts!


Daily Wisdom

Don’t get me right, I’m just asking[swg]
(yogi-ism)


Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear: Coast Line/Seaboard Railways – ACL – SAL – SCL arrives Tuesday! This will be the THEME for the DAY!

* Weekly Calendar:

TODAY: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and – ENCORE! Saturday


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 05:29:59 (262) Friday’s Info & Summary

(2) passengerfan AL Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 06:52:08 (262) Streamliner #72 – Zephrette

(3) passengerfan Al Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 07:06:40 (262) Comments

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 07:28:39 (262) B’day Bash!

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 08:22:14 (262) Acknowledgments, etc.

(6) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 08:29:37 (262) CM3 AM Report!

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 08:55:44 (262) reply to coalminer3

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 12:18:16 (262) C&EI info

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 18:42:45 (262) Blurb

(10) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 21:20:38 (262) Nick at Nite!

(11) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 21:40:28 (262) Band info

(13) barndad Doug Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 21:59:31 (262) Engineers Brotherhood, etc. & joke!

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 22:40:15 (262) Inclusive Post, etc.

(15) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 23:05:46 (262) Classic Diesels #8, CF7

NOW SHOWING:

The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre
. . . . . Double Features, all of the time . . . . .

. . . Sunday, February 26th thru March 4th: Fours a Crowd (1938) starring: Errol Flynn, Olivia de Havilland & Rosalind Russell – and – Holiday Affair (1949) starring: Robert Mitchum, Janet Leigh & Wendell Corey.

Coming Attractions:
Now with The Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, March 5th thru 11th: North to Alaska (1960) starring: John Wayne, Stewart Granger & Capucine – and – Lost in Alaska (1952) starring: Bud Abbott & Lou Costello. Short: A Pain in the Pullman (1936).


That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday
first Posted on page 152

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Illinois Central (IC)

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage:

1950: 4,779
1995: 2,732 (including rights)

Locomotives in 1963

Diesels: 629

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 49,226
Passenger cars: 857

Principal routes:

Chicago-New Orleans via Mattoon & Carbondale, IL, & Grenada, MS
Memphis-New Orleans via Vicksburg, MS & Baton Rouge, LA
Memphis-Jackson, MS via Greenwood, MS
Fulton, KY-Birmingham, AL
Freeport-Centralia, IL via Clinton & Vandalia
Chicago-Omaha, NE
Tara (Fort Dodge)-Sioux City, IA
Cherokee, IA-Sioux Falls, SD
Manchester-Cedar Rapids, IA
Waterloo, IA-Albert Lea, MN
Centralia, IL-Madison, WI
Gilman, IL-St. Louis
St. Louis-Du Quoin, IL
Edgewood, IL-Fulton, KY
Fulton-Louisville, KY via Paducah
Effingham, IL-Indianapolis, IN
Mattoon-Peoria, IL via Decatur
Jackson-Gulfport, MS
Meridian, MS-Shreveport, LA

Passenger trains of note:

Chickasaw (Memphis-St. Louis & Chicago)
City of Miami (Chicago & St. Louis-Miami & St. Petersburg, FL; joint with CG, ACL and FEC)
City of New Orleans (Chicago & St. Louis & Louisville-New Orleans)
Daylight (Chicago-St. Louis
Delta Express (Memphis-Vicksburg, MS)
Green Diamond (Chicago-St. Louis)
Hawkeye (Chicago-Sioux City
Iowan (Chicago-Sioux City)
Irvin S. Cobb (Louisville-New Orleans)
Kentucky Cardinal (Louisville-Memphis)
Land O’ Corn (Chicago-Waterloo, IA)
Louisiane (Chicago & St. Louis-New Orleans)
Magnolia Star (Chicago-New Orleans)
Mid-American (Chicago-Memphis)
Night Diamond (Chicago-St. Louis)
Panama Limited (Chicago & St. Louis-New Orleans)
Planter (Louisville-Memphis)
Seminole (Chicago-Jacksonville, FLA via Birmingham & Columbus, GA)
Southwestern Limited & Northeastern Limited (Meridian-Shreveport)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

Best thing that can be said about yesterday is that it’s over! Absolutely one of the worst days the bar has experienced, especially between morning and night. Had I not Posted, only two guys would have been in the SUMMARY! TWO!! That’s poor. Fortunately, a bit of a “pick up” at night . . .

Petrol up at “Collusion Corner” made it to $2.28 (rounded) with this latest round of price hikes. Here we go again! We have a front moving in on us this day and the temps are expected to get down into the 20s (F) tonight and in the early AM. Won’t last, so they tell us, just some well needed rain on the way and then a rebound into spring once more. Ah, one just never knows what to expect here in mid-Continent USA –but then again, we do – expect the unexpected![swg]

Let’s get to the acknowledgments and then I must get going on my day . . .

nickinwestwales Nick
Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 21:20:38 and 21:40:28

Pleased to see ya this fine night! Amazing that you’re able to type at the hour it is where you are! That, PLUS the fact you have remembered us says a lot, Sir Nick![tup][tup]

It isn’t the Friday night crowd you once remembered, but the bar is still here, with all of the familiar “faces” – so shall it remain! Ya know – next Sunday, the 12th – we reach our 11th Month on the Forums. Then it’s “countdown time” to our ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY on April 12th!! That’s a day ‘n night for everyone to show up.[tup][tup][tup] Excuses will NOT be accepted.[tdn]

Thanx for the band rundown – didn’t know about the 3rd one! <geesh> When do you find the time to eat, sleep ‘n do the other things of life[?][swg] The “Remnants,” kinda says it all, eh[?][tup]

So, on the “eve” of your Natal Day are you thinking about anything in particular regarding your 46th[?] Let’s see, it’s early 40s – mid 40s and late 40s! Always something, eh[?][swg]

barndad Doug
Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 21:59:31


Very glad to know that the RR Book Relay! is working and that the book arrived![tup] I’ll ship you the address of the next recipient . . . Still a rather disappointing response to the numerous invitations to participate. Just don’t get it – it’s a picture book for crying out loud. What’s so difficult about flipping through the flippin’ pages of a flippin’ picture book[?] Arggggggggggggggggggggh! This is a tough crowd, fer sure, fer sure. Makes we want to take back some of those Reserved & Permanent Stools[tdn] Ooooooooops, there I go into a <rant> - Boris Ring the ding and serve ‘em up all the OJ they can handle![swg]

Figured you’d pick up on that C&EI Post – some really good stuff over on “my other thread,” check it out![tup] Doesn’t appear as if 20 fingers ever returned to the bar yesterday . . . .

I haven’t had the opportunity to read your latest epistle – but will find the time later on.[tup] Jokes are getting really, really <grim>[tdn][swg]

trolleyboy Rob
Posted: 03 Mar 2006, 22:40:15 and 23:05:46

Slow is an understatement! Ridiculously slow is better put . . . Good to see ya, though and your two Posts have brightened up the place a bit.[tup] Always enjoy reading about the “Fs” – even with a “C” in front of ‘em![swg]

Looks like we BOTH said “it,” eh[?]<grin> “Pain in the Pullman!”

barndad Doug
Posted: 04 Mar 2006, 06:44:25

Thanx for kickin’ off ENCORE! Saturday for us! Good choice with the wage scale – always makes me think back. My first real part-time job as a kid was in an A&P market – made 50 cents an hour AND had to join a union at that!![wow] Imagine trying that out in today’s world[?]

Joke[?] Just a tad on the upswing, BUT you’re still in the red!![swg]


Okay Gents, let’s not forget the [blue]Monday Birthday Bash for Nick beginning at NOON!


Later![tup]


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING - The information you MISS may be for YOU!

Those who acknowledge the other guy, get acknowledged!

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday
first Posted on page 146

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #13

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Louisville and Nashville (L&N) from an advertisement in Classic American Trains


The NEW Crescent
A GRAND NEW TRAIN WITH A GRAND OLD NAME

In Daily Service between New Orleans, Atlanta, Washington and New York

Recommend and Sell the Year’s Finest Travel Packge

STREAMLINED, STAINLESS STEEL CARS
The Crescent is new from end to end. It’s the last word in streamliners. all cars are constructed of stainless steel and offer latest comfort and safety features.

ALL-PRIVATE-ROOM SLEEPERS
A selection of five different type private rooms – new 3-bed master room with shower and individual radio, drawing room, bedroom en suite, bedroom, and roomette. Each offers private lavatory, clothes closet, ice water and individually controlled lighting, heating and air conditioning.

LOUNGE AND OBSERVATION CARS
The finest atmosphere is found in the mid-train club lounge and the luxurious observation car. Comfortable chairs, music and convenient game or writing tables offer a “club on wheels” for rest and relaxation.

NOTHING FINER IN DINERS
The Crescent diners serve Southern cooking at is best. Every service to make every meal a travel treat has been provided – even to telephone communication between sleeping cars and diners.

COACH SERVICE
De luxe coaches with individual reclining seats are operated between New Orleans and Atlanta with connecting service beyond.

LOUISVILLE AND NASHVILLE RAILROAD


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

[West Coast S]

Morning Tom and the gang, well it's my 14th day on duty, pulling 12 hr shifts, if i'm not working, i'm sleeping!!! Alas, I never returned to "Our Place" as intended earlier this week, too much good stuff to catch up on, i'll weigh in on a few of the topics when some coffee saunters my way if you please..

Rob...Didn't Sir Pembroke import the coal used by the Flying Scottsman durings it's US tour??? I seem to recall this being a major reason behind the ventures insolvency...

Good to see others getting involved with the loco reviews. It should be noted that SF traded Amtrak 18 CF7's for a like amount of SDP40's, durable indeed, many continue in service for new owners, including Amtrak...I've got a pending review of a certain diesel class unique to the SP, but you'll have to wait until after ecore Saturday.

I've got some additional SDP45 owners, how did I forget to include the only non steam generator versions, those owned by the EL, seems they wanted the largest possible fuel tank, the SDP45 frame, being four longer then standard allowed this to be possible, but was only available if one purchased the passenger carbody. Matter of fact, EMD would customize any model, starting at about 18 grand per copy.

Barndad.. What do you have regarding the DeAultre brothers? It would be good to see the facts seperated from legend, you seem to have the nack for vintage railroad lore..

Ok Tom, let me get caught up a bit more...until later

Dave

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams on Encore Saturday please.

AL Good post on the California Zepher and CM3,s extra info. The new Trains IS a good issue on the railroad dining. I read recenly that they are going to put a Harvey House style Diner in the Union Station at Kansas City[tup].

DOUG Very interesting article on the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers. The first joke I had heard but the version I heard it was the Australian Flying Doctor.
Keep the jokes coming[:)].

ROB Thanks for the CP7 info. I now know the difference of the Cab and Hood locos.

DAVE looking forward to the SP diesel post. Latest ex SP loco through Jeff city has been UP# 6387 also Cotton Belt with UP # 1444 has been working the local frieght to Industrial Drive.

NICK Glad the band (s) are doing well. Did you find out what LOL means it has got me puzzeled as well.

TOM Great post on the C&EI it seem a very forward looking railroad with the signalling and the first to go all diesel. Thanks also for the Illinois Central and the L&N Encores.
It looks a good week at the Emporium with the Alaska themed films [tup][tup].

I,ll have another Bathams and around in anticipation of Photo Day tomorrow[^] PETE>

[LoveDomes]

Good Afternoon Tom and Gents at the Bar!

I see I missed West Coast S Dave, then again I completely missed yesterday as well![tdn] Been that kind of week (again).

Progress on the homefront to report. The crew is back again at it today and I expect they will have it all finished by the end of the day - that is if they keep at it. As long as the weather holds up - no rain in sight, a bit of a breeze and not bad out there - they shouldn't have anything to stop 'em.

Trip to the lawyers the other day was about another matter, however, once again we received the reassurance needed to put the fiasco with the insurance company behind us. A twist: Found out that the company now working on our basement wall uses the same insurance company that we had the problems with! So, that second adjustor who came around was indeed connected with that sorry bunch. This is more involved than anything G&S could have ever conjured up! ‘Tis indeed a puzzlement!

Had a talk with a representative from the foundation company and he explained to me that when they did the original work a couple of years ago, I had paid for the additional coverage which is now kicking in. Honestly, I don’t recall doing that![wow] Anyway, sure looks like the sun will shine next week when all of this is a memory – we hope!

The furnace and hot water tank are ‘doing their things,” and I’ve begun reconstructing the basement to a more reasonable and safe arrangement. Been looking at it from the vantage point of putting in a train room too! But then again, there is a room I could use that has been long empty since the kids became adults and moved on . . . . thinking, always thinking!

Regarding the Birthday scheduling. Whatever works best is fine with me, as my email indicated. I'll be here on Monday for Nick's BASH![tup]

Did I mention your trip to Alaska, Tom[?] If not, forgive me! That indeed should be the “winnah’s of all winnah’s!” Sailed in and out of several ports up that way in my time, and perhaps you recall the difficulty in making safe navigation along those shores. Alaska isn’t for the *** of the world (can I say that here[?]) We’ll see if I get “bleeped!” Anyway, green with envy here and I’d take that choice in a NY minute compared to any Amtrak trip or trips. Those you can take later on.[tup][tup][tup]

Nice "stuff" yesterday, in spite of the poor showing. Don't know what to make of 20 Fingers Al as he was rather prolific all afternoon on your other thread, but somehow forgot about the bar. Now that's cause for some action, I'd say![swg] This IS "home" fellas and let's not forget it![tup]

I'd love to come up with some Encore! stuff of my own, but as I've indicated before, my posts are all rather new and really not much to "encore" about.[:O]

That is one fine bit of reading in your latest submission, barndad Doug. Looks like another "winnah" from Illinois![tup] Have a relative who pronounces the "Land of Lincoln" as "Ill-in-noise" and it annoys the beejeezus outta me! You'd have to meet this person to believe her. Probably one of the reasons so many have negative impressions about New Yorkers (New Yawk-ahs!) if you follow my drift.[swg]

Rob Sounds like I "tweaked" sensitive place, which really wasn't my intent. You are perhaps the most faithful and consistent member of this "club" - so pardon my intrusiveness. Just kind of makes me wonder what it is with the guys when they KNOW Tom is out there trying to get us some customers and they won't pitch in. That's where I was coming from. Have one on me, Mate![tup]

Nick I'd love to be able to turn the clock back to a time and place when 2 or 3 in the morning was just the "start" of the night! You are leading one bodacious existence, for sure. Hang on to it while it lasts, for one day . . . . well, you already know![swg]

Pete I know you asked me a question or two, but for the life of me - can't recall or find the blasted page! I think you asked about Ballentine Ale – here’s a URL to check out: http://www.leeners.com/beerkitr.html#ballex

I want to make a pitch for Tom’s RR BOOK! I have that book and Gents it’s a no brainer for crying out loud. It’s pictures – nothing to fret over. So, why not get in on the RELAY[?] Heck, Tom if you need another, I’ll take it just to keep it going! As you said, unbelievable!

So, Tom is it Saint Loo, Saint Looie, or Saint Louis[?] Just being funny - I KNOW what it is and KNOW how some thing annoy you![swg] Getting excited about the coming of baseball[?] Sorry to report that I'm not. And that's a shame - for I've always looked forward to opening day. Not this time. I think the entire professional sports "thing" should dry up and go away. The Prima Donnas have chased me away along with the greed and "mercenary" approach we seemed to have taken with our sports in our country. A bit of nationalism here - but pardon me, this IS the U.S.A. - don't like it here, other than our money[?] Don't let the door hit you in the "keester" on the way back to whatever "hole" you came out of. Looks like it's time to ring the bell, Boris - here's a twenty, Tom for the next couple of rounds on me. It was worth the VENTING![swg]

Well, I'm just rambling along, aren't I[?] I'll take my leave now, but will participate tomorrow in the Pix Sunday Gala!

Until the next time!

Lars

[pwolfe]

LARS
Just caught your post[tup] Thanks for the link. The Ballentine looks great ale.
Irish Moss[?].
Hopefully with the work to the house compleated we can have a double celebration on Nick's birthday Monday, at the Bar.[tup][tup][tup]. PETE.

[Anonymous]

Good afternoon Tom and friends! I'll have my usual bottomless, and please accept a round on me! Nice encores on the IC and L&N. One day, maybe I'll have enough backlogged stuff of my own to cover most of the railroads too.

Dave, I don't know what a DeAultre brother is. Guess I'll have to run into the information later, 'cause google doesn't know about them either. Can you tell a little about whatever it is that they did, or suposedly did?

Lars, all I know, is that if I ever got a juicy check from an insurance company, I wouldn't squander it ... I'd invest it in the Our Place train! [:)]
On another subject, my wife, whom I snatched from the clutches of Philadephia, also pronounces the "noise" part of Illinois ... just to give me grief. I get back at her by asking how many syllables are in words like "bed", because to hear the Philly people say it, you would swear there were two or more.

Except for the gas prices today, I've had an excellent morning! The sun is shining, so it seemed a shame to be working on all the kitchen stuff, so I ran to a few train stations to snap some photos, and then ended up at the Illinois (there is no noise in Illinois) Railway Museum, and climbed all over stuff that would get me kicked out (if caught). Even sneaked into a Pullman sleeper ...first time ever for me. I now have a plethora of stuff to share with ya'll in the coming weeks! For now, here's an encore from page 214:

From the pages of “The Railway Conductor” September 1931

Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Company, March 17th, 1894

Wages and Rules Governing the Employment of Conductors and Flagmen, Baggagemen, and Brakemen General Rules

1. Callers will be kept at all points where, in the judgment of the head of the department, it is necessary to call conductors and brakemen. Men to be called at their regularly registered residences, and as nearly practicable two hours before leaving time of trains. Each man, when called, to sign call book showing time called and departing time of train called for. Distance limits for calling not to exceed one mile from starting point of caller, but no caller will be furnished for men assigned to regular runs, except by special agreement.

2. When conductors and brakemen are held for duty, and for any cause other than their own acts do not go out, if held on duty three hours or less, they will be paid for three hours at the rate of ten miles per hour, and stand out first. If held on duty for more than three hours and less than five hours, they will be paid for five hours at the same rate per hour and stand first out. If held on duty more than five hours, they shall be paid for ten hours at same rate of pay per hour, and go behind all other crews at that point.

3. When men are notified (before reporting) that they will not be wanted, no time will be allowed.

4. Conductors and brakemen of work trains when held for duty, will be paid for six hours if they work six hours or less; if over six hours and less than ten hours, they will be paid for ten hours; over ten hours, they will be paid prescribed rate per hour. To be paid for noon hour if worked. Conductors and brakemen of work trains being called upon to handle merchandise train on the same day, will be paid number of hours they work as per rule No. 4 on Work Trains, and be paid actual mileage on merchandise traffic.

5. Trainmen deadheading under orders on passenger of freight train will be paid one-half their regular rate.

6. The number of men to be employed with each crew on train shall be determined by the superintendent.

7. Trainmen acting as witnesses attending court on legal cases or in similar service to the company, will be allowed no dead-head mileage, but will be allowed a full day’s pay for each twenty-four hours absent from duty; fractional days at proportionate rate, but in no case less than one full day.

8. If any trainman has been taken off his train for any cause, he shall be granted a thorough investigation with the privilege of requesting the attendance of all material witnesses to the cause for which his suspension has been made. He may also have one other trainman present at the investigation, and shall have the right to appeal to the general officers of the road. Decision will be given five days after appeal. Investigation will be made in five days after suspension. If found not guilty of the charge, he will receive pay for all time lost.

9. All employees entering or remaining in the service of the company thereby agree to obey and be governed by any and all rules of the company.

10. The rules and regulations of the company are for the guidance of all concerned, and for the safe and prompt dispatch of the company’s business and care of its property. It is of the utmost importance, to make these rules efficient, that they shall be absolutely enforced, and all those unwilling to yield a cheerful and full obedience thereto are not expected to remain in service.

11. It is the purpose of this company to reward long service by promotion. In making promotions, the oldest employee will be promoted, provided his record is good, and also provided he has not been notified by the trainmaster or superintendent previous to the time of possible promotion that he is, in their judgment not fitted for higher duties. The oldest trainman in the employ of the company to have preference if competent and worthy. The trainmaster or superintendent to be the judge, with the right of the applicant for promotion to appeal to the general officers, provided prejudice is alleged.



[:I] A man walks into a bar and orders 10 shots of whiskey for himself. The bartender looks at him and says, "Are you out of your mind? I can’t give you all that booze, I will end up losing my liquor license."
To that the man replied, "Please, do it for me just this one time, I just found out my son is gay." The bartender gave the guy a hard look and said "OK, but just this one time and that's it, never again."
The man agreed and as fast as the bartender poured the shots the guy slammed them down.
A week later the same guy walked into the same bar and asked the same bartender for 10 more shots of whiskey. The bartender said "Woah, I thought last week we agreed that this was never going to happen again."
The guy replied, "Please do it just one more time for me, I swear this will be the last time........I just found out my other son was gay."
Again the bartender gives the guy a hard look and says, "OK, but this is absolutely the last time." The guy agreed and again he slammed all 10 shots as fast as the bartender could pour them.
A week later the same guy walked into the same bar and asked the same bartender yet again for 10 shots of whiskey. The bartender looked at the guy and said "What’s going on man, doesn’t anyone in your family like women?!!?!!"
The guy says "Yeah, my wife" [:I]

[West Coast S]

Afternoon all, Barndad,

The DeAlture brothers were responsible for what is considered the last attempted train robbery. They held up an SP express train as it exited tunnel 13 on the Shasta Division in 1923 or there abouts, shot and killed the engineer, fireman and conductor out of fustration when they botched the job by using too much dynamite on the steel express car, to the misfortune of the express personal who were killed as well.

The train had slowed to drop off a helper, upon resumption, the two brothers boarded the cab with guns at the ready and ordered that the express car be uncoupled from the rest of the train, then ordered the crew to proceed to a pre selected remote spot were the father and some guns for hire attempted to blow the expres car.

All in law enforcement knew who had commited the crime, as the father had threatend SP officals before over a precieved grievence. The father was immediently arrested with physical evidence and explosives in his possesion, but the two brothers sought haven by enlisting in the Army, both were discovered serving in the Phillipines and were arrested, returned to the United States, tried and convicted, the father died in prison in 1953, about the time the brother's were pardoned, with the older of the two being discovered deceased under mysterious circumstances in a ditch several years later near the scene of the crime, frontier justice perhaps by a relative of the five murdered for no reason??

The local sheriff ruled it sucicide, and that was that. The younger brother was in and out of prison on a variety of serious crimes until passing away several years ago at close to one hundered years of age.


Ok, Tom lunch on me today, enjoy

Dave

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday
first Posted on page 149

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this ad out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956) [located on page iii]

You make a 10% commission every time you reserve a Hertz car for a passenger!

May I reserve a Hertz car for you at your destination?”

That question is loaded – with potential profit for you. Ask it every time you sell a ticket. When the passenger answers “Yes” make the reservation and Hertz will send you 10% of the total car rental.

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Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday
first Posted on page 166

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this ad out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956) [located on the inside of the front cover]

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A clean, new car from Avis will greet them at the station. Rates are low and include gas, oil and insurance. Only Avis offers them the convenient “Rent it here – leave it there” service, and they’ll get the courtesy and treatment that has made Avis the fastest growing car rental organization in the word . . . with more than 850 offices.

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Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents,

This most probably will be the final Post from me for this day, so keep in mind that:
Leon the Night Man! takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)

Thanx for the Emails from Doug - Pete - Nick - Lars -Rob & Ted [tup]

RR Book Relay! is off 'n winging ....... Amazing just how "difficult" this "decison" has been for so many ......[%-)][%-)]

Appreciate the support for ENCORE! Saturday from Rob 'n Doug![tup]

A TIP for EDITING Posts: Keep in mind the ORIGINAL TIME of the Post being edited and the PAGE it is on. If an EDIT is made to a Post on a different PAGE, and let's say perhaps an hour or more after the fact - that EDIT will be the one shown to one and all as the most current submission for our Thread. So when someone logs on, they will be directed NOT to the most current Post, but back to the one that was EDITED. A better way to handle something like that is to either delete the ORIGINAL and start over (copy it of course, then paste it back with the corrections added......) OR simply make a NEW POST.

Lars That was quite a Post you provided and covered lots of ground. Once again, glad that things seem to be on the upswing for you and your bride![tup] That insurance fiasco could linger, and I'm sure you are prepared for whatever it takes to put it to rest ...

St. Louis - San Francisco - NOT St. Looie, St. Loo or Frisco. Just the anal way I am![swg]

Yes, you did mention the Alaska getaway for us - but appreciate your additional commentary! In the days of my sea going in Alaskan waters, I was in the radio shack - had nothing to do with what was going on up on the bridge. However, when not on watch, I spent many hours on deck, checking out the awesome scenery of the Alaskan coastline - something else fer sure, fer sure. Saw it pretty much from Ketchikan up to Nome. Covered lots of terriorty back in 1959-60. Great memories and surely looking forward to this trip of ours. Of course, we're now talking air and train - no more ships.[swg]

Thanx for the twenty![tup] Once we get a bunch of guys in here, we'll ring the bell and serve 'em a drink on Lars! - maybe two![swg]

Keep in mind, Gents that tomorrow is Sunday Photo Posting Day! and should you stop by, drop a [bday] to our friend Nick!

Hey West Coast S Dave no ENCOREs! from you[?] Sure would be easy, given how many great Posts you've given us in the past. Can't find 'em[?] Just use the "advance search" feature and it should be a snap ...... Appreciate the "free lunch," but haven't seen any takers.[swg]


Okay guys, time to enjoy this Saturday night![tup]

Later (maybe) .......

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[West Coast S]

Leon, man i'm beat..Happy BD in advance Nick, hope the gods of spirits and good wishes grace you and those you love, have a pint on my behalf on you natal day..Well, where the heck was my encore? That Tom is one smart gent indeed!!!

Lovedomes, good to see you again, sometimes, I feel like I have no time these day to acknowledge all here, I apologize for any omissions that have slip through the cracks of my fuzzy mind!!!

Until Monday, keep well all

Dave

[nickinwestwales]

Well good evening Gentlemen all-I trust fortune favours this house ??
[4:-)][oX)]TOM- A purely medicinal Starop for me please,a brew of choice for yourself and,since as of 22 minutes ago it`s now my birthday--DRINKS FOR THE HOUSE-ALL NIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!
As to my thoughts on this day-a thumbnail review of my circumstances reveals that :-
I live in a comfortable ( if slightly bijou ) cottage in a small village way out in the sticks,5 minutes away from the river,a half hour away from some of the finest beaches in the country.
I share my life with my lovely partner and demented but angelic daughter and have my parents in the next village upstream ( close enough that I can be there at a moments notice when needed )
I make the bulk of my income doing the things I love best-making music and preparing the odd buffet and the like
I have a dedicated space in which to build my model empire
Really,I can`t see any way life could get any better......................
Nice work on the C+E.I piece and especially the L+N and I.C.G pieces-both of the latter have strong musical connections-the L+N features in many country & bluegrass songs and the Illinois Central ( together with Highway 61 ) was the route that took the blues from the Delta up to Chicago ( the legendary `crossroads` of Robert Johnson fame is reputedly on H61,just south of Greenwood,Mississippi )
Sunday pix dispatched-3 relevant and 3 for which I crave B/Day indulgance-if nothing else,they should give the chaps a bit of a giggle...
Whilst on that topic-many thanks to one and all for good wishes & kind thoughts r.e. band--much appreciated [tup][^][tup]
ROB-Nice one on the B.C.R/P.G.E pix and the C.F7 info-a fine ( and all too rare ) example of re-cycling in action (save the planet-we don`t have a spare) thanks also for birthday wishes-as the first,its an extra shot of the special reserve rum for you [tup]
DOUG-another fine tale for a cold winters night-you have a definate `feel` for that stuff-nice !---loved the Indian joke-in fact I have one also--Q:-whats the Native American word for "Manhatten"-----A:-"Ours"...............................
DAVE-Reading between the lines,I suspect your `Flying Scotsman` question may have been aimed at me rather than ROB-not sure about Sir Pembroke reference (other than it being Welsh for Pembrokeshire,my county of residence) but you may well have the right of it R.E. coal supplies,as ever,I bow to the better informed-this is normally the point where [4:-)][oX)]TOM fires in with a chapter & verse URL.............
PETE-Still no wiser R.E. LOL-beginning to suspect conspiracy of silence by all these computer literate types ( see also Grassy Knoll,Area 51,Thatcher really a man,Elvis still alive etc)........wot me-paranoid [^]
LARS-Appreciate the support-and yes the recovery time is getting longer every week--still,the Stones are still doin` it after 43 years on the road so there`s hope yet ( after all that time you would think they would be getting better gigs than the half-time act at a ball game......)
Right [4:-)][oX)]TOM-same again all round and I`d better get back to the galley and sort Boris out -I can tell he`s missed me by the way he clamps onto my leg and starts howling whenever I appear.
O.K-as it`s Saturday (at your end of the bar) lets have a bit of a menu:-
tonights [C=:-)]`s specials are-
8" Yorkshire Pudding filled with rare roast topside of Welsh Black beef topped with onion gravy
Crispy Duck with pancakes,Hoi Sin sauce,spring onions and cucumber
Noisettes of Welsh lamb,pan fried and served with reform sauce
Oriental Platter (serves 2 )-Chicken Chow Mein,Beef & green peppers in black bean sauce,vegetable spring rolls & Singapore special rice
`Ole fashioned Pork`n`Beans-made to an original Mentor Village family recipe dating back to the village`s founding as a division point on the Atlantic,Borders & Pacific railroad.
Hmmmm-seems to have got late early here-about time I retired to the galley.
Drink up boys-we have a long way to go before the bottom of the jar-how about some music ?-I fancy some classics tonight-Chuck Berry,Eddie Cochran,Johhny Kidd & the Pirates,John Lee Hooker,Muddy Waters,Willie Dixon---any takers ??
See you all tomorrow for Sunday Pix-sleep well,be lucky,nick [C=:-)]
P.S-TOM-how about one of those Avis cars to get me home-I no longer trust the Mentor Village rickshaw service since rumours of noted ner`do`well FARKUS `s financial invovlement..{SP?}.........

[trolleyboy]

Evening Leon, I'll take sir Nick up on that reserve rum oh and toop up the birthday boys glass for me as well.

Dave Yes I believe that that was a Nick question or perhaps Pete, no biggy as I believe the proper answer has surfaced. I'm glad that you enjoyed the CF7 post, I do have a love of the infernal combustion locomotives as well so i will likley drop in the odd other synposis as well. Looking forward to further such posts from yourself as well.

Pete I'm glad that I was able to clear up the questions you had about the hood vs cab or cowel units. The cabs are stil with us in some forms. CN had custom ordered SD50F's , SD60F's a GE dash 8-40CM all with full width bodies, the GE's also found there way onto the BCR and the Quebec Northshore and Labradour Railway, CN also took an order of Full width bodied locomotives from Bombardier ( MLW ) in 1983 call the HR616 essentially an Alco C636 with a full width nose and body. Gets a tad confusing i know.

Doug I'm indeed ready for picture posting tomorrow, I'll likley post them a bit early tonight as I'm taking the museum's gift shop on the Rod to a train show for a good chunck of the day tomorrow. Good jokes BTW, better than yesterday's offerings.

Lars Thanks for the drink mate. No tweeking felt at this end, so please put your mind at ease. I have been trying to drum up business for us on my thread rather unsuccessfully as well. [sigh] It is good to hear that you are approaching a bit of completeness renovationwise at your end, as Tom said I'm sure that some chapters of the insurance story are unfortunatly still left to be told. The upside is the possibility of a new found trainroom for yourself however [tup]


Nick Nice meal selections as per always [tup] a [bday] round for yourself as well.[tup][tup][;)] Your life seem idelic,nice to be close to mom and dad, I'm about an hour away from my parents, we are close to heather's though so that's a bit of a compensation.

Tom Yup yesterday was a bit of a wash, I'm glad I was able to help out some. Your emails have been responded to as well. Hatrd to believe that we are so close to the big 12 month fete. Shall I arrange for H&H to bring over their dancing girls, and menagerie to help celebrate the day [:O][:-^]. I know Boris seems keen for that [:O]


Catch everyone soon

Rob

[trolleyboy]

ENCORE ! ENCORE ! # 1 For This Sat.

Classic Steam #4 as first posted on page 170

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Okay so up next in continuation of today's classic passenger train scheme of things....


Classic CNR Steam #4 Passenger and Mixed Trains to Niagara Falls


These are the passenger and mixed trains that called on Niagara Falls Ontario in the mid to late 50's. As layed out by Ian Wilson's Steam to The Niagara Frontier.


Number 86

Hamilton to Niagara Falls section of number 83. Modified schedule on sunday's.
Cars off number 83 in Hamilton formed consist of train 86. Engine came off of number 95 from Niagara Falls. Usually a stream lined 6400 or a 6200 class northern.

Number 87 and 84

Fastnight mail train Toronto to Niagara Falls . Did not officially handle passengers: not listed in the public timetable.Most express to Hamilton came in on 87, by the caar load. About 90% , if not all express to Niagara Falls came in on 84. Circa december 1957, carried storage car of box baggage or refridgerator type for Hamilton and Hamilton transfer mail, set off in Hamilton and returned on No. 108. circa may 17 1956 at least one (each) Toronto-St Catharines and Toronto-Niagara Falls express reefers, carried mail in authorized space in baggage car between Hamilton and Niagara Falls. At Merriton , the switcher removed at least one express car from 84 and set it behind the station for unloading and transfer to NS&T Red Onion. The consist of train 84 at Niagara falls wa used to make up numbers 95 and 91. Usually powered by a Bullet Nosed betty until mid 1954. After which older mountains or 6400 class streamilined mountain or older Northerns became the norm. Engine would return on afternoon local 91-92

Number 89-90

Toronto to Niagara Falls leg of over night Maple Leaf CN-LV train to New York city. Normal consist was a LV baggage/smoker two LV pullman cars ( for Philadelphia and New York),CN coaches and parlour cars to Niagara Falls,and LV coach to New York.carried mail in authorized space in baggage car between Toronto and Suspension bridge . Normal power was any variety of Northern or Mountain, with the occastional Hudson. Engine returned to Toronto next morning on 93-94

Number 91-92

Daily afternoon local passenger train,Niagara falls to Toronto. Normal power was a bullet nose betty ( mountain type 6060 series ) , occastionally a northern.Return movement for engine on night train 87/187 - 84/184. Cirac may 17 1956 carried Hamilton/ Toronto express reefer. Did not carry mail,except in baggage during Christmas season.

Number 93-94

Niagara Falls to Toronto leg of overnight Maple Leaf from New York city.Engine was off train 89-90. RPO worked between Toronto and Niagara Falls on 83-86 & 93-94. Discharged mail on the fly at Beamsville. Normal consist out of Niagara Falls was RPO LV baggage/smoker , two LV sleepers(pullmans) , CN coaches and parlour car from Niagara Falls and LV coach.Extra express cars on some days. Power was off of 89-90.


Number 95

Niagara Falls to Hamilton section of number 6. Carried mail in authorized space in baggage car between Niagara Falls and Hamilton. normallt powered by a Pacific assigned to Niagara Falls ( until april or may 1956 )After that time ,powered by engine off train 102.

Number 101-102

Daily passenger train, Toronto to Niagara Falls. Heavy with head end cars. Carried RPO ( not on Sundays ) . Also carried mail in authorized space in baggage car between Toronto and suspension bridge. discharged mail on the fly at Grimsby Beach and Vineland. Circa may 17 1956,carried Toronto - Hamilton express reefer. Consist included parlour car amd Montreal sleeper ( pff number 17 at Toronto ); this equiment returned on train 107-108. normal power was bullet nosed betty untill mid 1955,then streamlined northern ( 6400's ). Engine returned to Toronto on 107/108

Mixed Train 218

Originally Stratford- Fort Erie mixed trains aperating as M218-M219,engine making two-day round trip out from Stratford. Express cars were lifted by M218 at places such as Caledonia,Dunnville,St Thomas. On most days , there was a CN reefer behind the tender on arrival at Fort Erie. On the trip home M219 lifted an express reefer of fish at Dunnville,which was handed to M238 at Caledonia for furtherance to New york city via train 90 from Hamilton. On the trip home M219 luifted express casr at Brantford. Effective april 27 1958 , trains operated between Stratford and Brantford as M218/M219 while former London-Fort Erie way freights 510/511 were modified to run between London and Brantford as 510/511 and between Brantford and Fort Erie as M220/M217.Until early 1957.regular power was a light pacific assigned to Stratford, after which Stratford assigned Mikado's took over. From april 1958 onward,Stratford assigned Mikados handled trains between Stratford and Brantford and Mimico assigned Northerns handled trains between London and Fort Erie.Steam last used on this train in april 1959.

Fort Erie Race Trains

Passenger extras Toronto to Fort Erie and return during the racing season ( spring and summer ). Consist made up of buffer ( non passenegr carriing car ), parlour car and sufficient best available coaches. No stops on Oakville subdivision west of sunnyside. Stopped briefly at Welland in both directions.Returned immediatly following last race. any suitable passenger power was used including Northerns mountains hudsons or heavy pacifics.

Picnic Trains

Anual picnic trains for big industries in the Hamilton area, went to Crystal Beach. Passengers were dropped at the beach,then engine went to Fort Erie to turn. Picnoc trains used commuter coaches laying over. again any suitable passenger power was used.

Enjoy Rob

[trolleyboy]

ENCORE ! ENCORE ! # 2 For This Week

This Classic steam post first appeared on page # 191


CNR Classic Steam #9 Speacial Steam Frieghts on the Niagara Frontier

Thorrold Switchers

Niagara Falls to Thorold and return same day. Originally one morning assignment. Between sept 30,1945,and april 28, 1946 a second switcher was added. Both ran in the mornings,several hours appart. Circa oct 28 1957 this was cut to a single train during the navigation season. Main task was to serve the Ontario Paper company at lock 7 of the Welland Canal. train would also interchange traffic with the NS&T's electric frieght division in Thorold and Merriton.Heaveu Consolidation main locomotive of choice.


The St Thomas Way Freight

Circa april of 1940 , switching extras that left Fort Erie Tues, Thurs,& sat, for Jarvis and return.Re-classed as a way frieght in april of 1945.Frequency doubled and the territory was expanded to St Thomas so train began leaving Ft Erie M,W,Fri and leavung St Thomas Tues,thurs,& Sat. This assignment was handled by a 1600 series wabash class J2 Pacific. In the 50's 1951 on Wabash SW8's 122-127 handled this run.The train carried a CNR caboose and was jointly operated,CNR and Wabash alternated crewing this train every six months.Effective 1953 Wabash with drew their crews for the local swtiching on the St Thomas division in favour of all CNR crews. Served all local industries. CNR operated train with heavy consolidations until dieselized in 1957 wwith SW1200RS's and GP7's.

Welland way freight

Niagara Fall's to Welland way freight or switcher,returnung the same day. Became known as a way frieght in april of 1945. A joint CNR/Wabash service ( ie CN could handle the Wabash cars ), although this was infrequent as the line handled very little Waba***raffic. Main jop was to service the Cyanamid plant in Port Robinson. Train only operated as far as Port Robinson after 1959. Consolidations in the 2300/2400 series were the power of choice,dieselized after 1958 by SW1200RS's and GP7's.

Enjoy more later.

Rob








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