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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 2, 2006 10:22 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Once again, Nick has “come to save the day!” Check these out:

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Thanx Nick [tup][tup][tup]


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Enjoy![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 2, 2006 11:29 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


A couple of pictures from jlampke John who is in Korea, spending time with his family:


John’s newborn son . . . What’s all the fuss about[?]




John’s daughter’s Lego trains!



Thanx, John! Enjoy your time with those who love you!!


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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, April 2, 2006 1:17 PM
G’day Tom and fellow travelers WISHING that the bar was open!!


Been quite a weekend as family and friends descended en masse for my 66th on Friday. Yesterday was more of the same, and from the looks of things, aside from gaining 100 pounds, I think the ‘good times’ are continuing.[tup] My wife says I snored in Church! (P.S. I don’t REMEMBER being there!)[wow]


Tom You surely provided quite a ‘spread’ with those Nostalgia submissions yesterday and I’m sorry that you had to “hold the fort” by yourself for so long. Just couldn’t find the ‘puter![swg] Glad to note that others appreciate your efforts as well. This bar of ours surely would go the way of so many other threads without you!

Nice Pix from Doug – Nick ‘n John (over in Korea!) So, now “Uncle Lars” can say he has kids on all of the populated continents!![swg][tup]

Best to all who I’ve missed, especially those of you who took the time to fete me on the combined B’day Bash with Doug back on the 13th![tup]



Something from Canadian Railroading of days gone by . . . . especially for Tom and the other guys who appreciate Canadian railways![tup]



CN "Super Continental" eastbound at Jasper (1972)(from: www.trainweb.org) Photo: Chris Guenzler




CN "Super Continental" at Jasper (1976)(from: www.trainweb.org) Photo: Chris Guenzler




CN "Skeena" at Jasper (1976)(from: www.trainweb.org) Photo: Chris Guenzler




CN “Super Continental” route map



Until the next time![tup]


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 2, 2006 2:14 PM
Good afternoon gents. I think Tom is trying to say something to me with the timing of the Black Sox film at the emporeum? Still .. compliments on the movies, and thanks for posting Nicks pix of model adds and assorted train scenes as well as pictures of John's baby. I forget ...did we name him CM4?

Great Super Continental pix Lars!

Now for something a little different ... not jut pix, but videos!

German freight train
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5863058011960402395&q=german&pl=true

German ICE highspeed
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5497297861035859149&q=german&pl=true&auto=true

1910 train wrecks into auto
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5707021991823592492&q=train&pl=true

Train chasing at Daggett, Ca.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4360162034832389620&q=train&pl=true

Train approaching Bombay
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3310474316183561023&q=train&pl=true

CN 306 through McGivney
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3828341487036407478&q=train&pl=true

Bullet Train
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-782561498373809240&q=train&pl=true

Waterloo and city train
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2280167377332521222&q=train&pl=true

Hitachi train in Australia
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1789522414623648644&q=train&pl=true

Inner city train in Hanoi
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6941673554768419330&q=train&pl=true

Train arriving at Amsterdam
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3829467082574783263&pl=true

[:I] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1108474708529983988&pl=true [:I]
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 2, 2006 3:07 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

That's quite an innovative submission, Doug! Looks like the wanswheel "touch" has begun to sprout wings![swg] Great "stuff" indeed![tup][tup][tup]

Thanx to Lars for the kind words and great Pix![tup] Sounds as if the B'day Bash doesn't want to quit at your house![swg] Enjoy!!


Continuing with Tom’s Nostalgia! from past weeks, here are a few more Pix from what I remember of my childhood Lionel trains! As previously mentioned, those trains are long gone, but thanx to internet sources, the Pix remain. So, take a trip with me through what just may be the only remaining “evidence” of the trains from my yesteryear . . . .


(1) Lionel #2458 PRR auto box car (1946-48)



(2) Lionel #6452 PRR gondola w/barrels (1948-49)



(3) Lionel #3451 operating log car (1947-48)
(this car should have been included with my “original” set on page 273)




(4) Lionel #364 conveyer log loader (1948-57)




(5) Lionel #3474 WP operating box car (1952-53)




(6) Lionel #6472 refrigerator car (1950-53)




(7) Lionel #6002 NYC gondola (1950)



That concludes the Lionel Trains from my childhood – if you’ve missed any, check out the URLS: http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=273&TOPIC_ID=35270
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=281&TOPIC_ID=35270


ENJOY! [tup]


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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, April 2, 2006 5:53 PM
Good afternoon folks. Some nice shots as per usual from the gang assembled.

Doug those Union and ogilvie street station shots are A one, thanks for the video urls as well.

Tom Loved your nostalgic pictures again as well. Looks like the western pacific boxcar as the original blueman from the blueman group inside of it.[:D]

John Cute little guy you've got there. No conductors hat yet for him[?]

lars Glad tto see you servived the birthday bash, thanks for those great shots of the supercontinental as well.

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Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, April 2, 2006 5:54 PM
http://jwtrains.com/images/627_web.JPG

Souveniers of 1956: the LV 627 and Penn Station. Nine years old and awestruck by the height of that ceiling.
He sure is a cute baby!
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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, April 2, 2006 6:05 PM
Okay a couple of shots from the "trolleybarn"


Grand River railway class B Baldwin-Westinghouse steeple cab at Preston ontario 1960



Niagara St Catharines and Toronto rotary snowplow # 18 at the Welland ave Yard. 1955



Montreal Transportation Commission (MTC) car #2132's builders shot at the Canadian Car and Foundry Plant in Montreal. 1927



Cornwall Street Railway snowsweeper # 1 at 7th street in Cornwall. c1947


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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, April 2, 2006 6:21 PM
Hello again here's afew more shots from the museum's achieves.



Brantford Street Railway travelling u der CN's Murray street overpass c1940



LE&N express car 622 at the Brantford Station c1955



NS&T City car # 328 in St Catharines On C1942



Small Peter Witt car 2666 at the TTc Hillcrest shops c1952



Brantford Street Railway car on Terrace Hill c1939



Montreal and Southern Counties sweeper c1955

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Sunday, April 2, 2006 7:55 PM
Well howdy guys,various things ,but first -JOHN-Ain`t he a little beaut !!-[tup][^][tup]Can`t decide who he takes after most-he has Robs smile,Lar`s eyes,Toms upright & dignified posture,my teeth.........It`s a puzzle to tell[swg]-many congratulations to your lady & yourself and thanks for `sharing the moment` with us -now those Lego trains,I could get right behind some of that-"Limited only by your imagination" used to be their slogan when I was a kid-ahh-happy memories
LARS-That hits the spot for me my man-It was shots like that of slightly grubby red nose zebra F units in stunning landscapes that turned me onto modelling Canadian outline-a decision which has brought me by long and unexpected journeys to this fine company-nicely done [tup][tup]
DOUG-Nice work with the disposable ( can I say that ??)-Whatever happened to building for future generations as opposed to slinging it up for a price......
Those bi-levels look a tight fit under the bridge-real nice underground atmosphere shots on the METRA & Amtrak power-are the METRA units F40`s or `59`s?-Havn`t had time to open the vids yet but will report back as soon as [tup]
[4:-)][oX)]TOM-Love that Lionel,brings back memories of summer afternoons on the back lawn watching the family pet beagle chase a pair of Hornby `0`gauge clockwork loco`s around as much of the garden as I could cover with track........[^]...

Before I forget,thanks to all for enquiries,after a sleepless night all round,small one seems recovered....I won`t bore you with details.....

Right,picture captions ( then sleep-lots of sleep...)
1:-A last one from the 1970 catalogue-top right is the `train set` engine which set the ball rolling,below it is the second member of the fleet ( long since sold and still regretted )below that,one of the few models in the range I have never aquired.
The first two formed the core for my first `proper` layout which might make a Pikes Perspective Postcard from across the Pond sort of a Post later in the week.
Up until now we have had individual models in close-up,now for the larger context
2:-The shop-window display,I havn`t checked ,but I would imagine every item in that years catalogue is in there somewhere--It was years before I twigged that the tracks don`t all carry on behind the mountains and all join up-another illusion bites the dust...
3:-From the `shows you how` bit-on the opposite page is the 2-D trackplan,with all the components marked and on this side the full 3-D realisation-with a fair attempt to put the models in the right context with each other ( Although PETE will be able to spot all the anomalies I feel sure.
4:-Back in the real world,some overlooked pix from C.I.E (Irish Rail) as a postscript to Mentor`s St P.`s W/end.
Top L & R-Mid-morning Dublin-Rosslare Europort service arrives at Rosslare Strand
Btm L:-Looking north,towards Dublin. The Waterford line turns off to the left.
The passing track looked not to have been used for some years-there is some evidence of a small goods yard behind the Waterford platform-this would have needed to connect to the passing track as a headshunt ( drill track ??) as the branch line curves at too sharp an angle.
Also,the signals at the platform end give priority to the branch traffic with the loop signalled as a siding from both ends.
Extra detail-the branch `home` signal is visible (although partly lost in light flare) to the right of the platform `starter`,to the right of that the Up loop `starter`,Up main `starter` & Down main splitter are visible ( but only with a magnifying glass).
The blue building on the Dublin platform is the signal cabin
Btm R:-Still with me ?-good [^]-Looking towards Rosslare Europort-Bit of a mystery here,Y-point in track suggests equal priority yet signal arms give the branchline priority over the main...[%-)]..human interest bit-the cottage we rented was just the other side of the bridge you can see further down the line
5 & 6:-Here we are in the delightful Mid-Wales university town of Aberystwyth,home of the Vale of Rheidol Rly.
A short run through only here but as we are due to visit with the in-laws over Easter some up-to-date pixs will be available
5:-top L --#7 ` Owain Glyndwr` takes the 10.30 out past the yard limits on a beautiful summers day
5:-other 3, on an early spring day,diesel #10 is busy shunting coaches whilst #7 takes on oil & water,blows off a little steam and poses with her shine showing prior to taking up the 14.00 to Devil`s Bridge
6:-top 2-on a freezing cold autumn morning #9 `Prince of Wales`s driver had spotted me hanging around with a camera and was delighted to `put on a show`,even though the train was virtually empty..lovely man[^]
6:-Btm L-#8 `Llewellyn` at Devils Bridge-the spur to the left usually spots a spare coach or 2 and the old goods yard was on the right
6:-Btm R-close up of #10-just back from an M.O.W run,first truck contains generator,second one tools and other five cut brush etc.
--most wagons appear to be from R.N.A.D Trecwn stock,as mentioned a few weeks ago.
Will update as soon as info is to hand-
Enjoy the day of rest chaps---JOHN-sleep is for wimps [swg]
See you all soon,nick, [C=:-)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 2, 2006 9:31 PM
Good Evening!

A fine Sunday Photo Posting Day! and many THANX to all for your contributions![tup][tup][tup]

Glad to see Nick back with us - presume all is well with the "little one!"[tup] Great efort with the Pix descriptions! Good show . . .

Rob I was hoping you'd show up and you didn't disappoint! FIne stuff from the trolley archives![tup]

Loved that Penn Station shot from Mike - brought back lotsa memories for me as well![tup] 1956[?] The year I entered the service . . . traveled to boot camp by train from that fine station in NYC.

Doug I really enjoyed those Chicago Union Station shots from this morning. Every time I've visited that place, I have been unsuccessful at getting Pix from the platform areas. Next time I'll have to get you to run interference for me, eh[?][swg]

No "hidden agenda" with the SOX - it's right up front![swg] Go Cards!
American League[?] Hmmmmmmmm - I'll have to think about it.[%-)]


See y'all in the AM . . . . Nite![zzz]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 3, 2006 5:22 AM

from: www.viarail.ca


We open at 6 AM. (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


Monday once again and time to enjoy a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from the Menu Board, a pastry of two from The Mentor Village Bakery, and some freshly ground and brewed coffee! What are you waiting for[?][tup]


Daily Wisdom

You cain’t hurt a tongue by speakin’ softly.[swg]


”Our” Place” ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION is Wednesday, April 12th!


Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear – Missouri Pacific (MP) arrives Tuesday!

* Weekly Calendar:

Wednesday: Pike Perspective’s Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 01:22:21 (291) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 01:49:34 (291) Acknowledgments & Comments

(3) barndad Doug Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 07:02:53 (291) 5 Pix & Joke!

(4) barndad Doug Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 07:25:52 (291) 5 Pix & Joke!

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 08:54:05 (291) Now Playing at the Emporium!

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 10:22:29 (291) 6 Pix from Nick!

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 11:29:13 (292) 2 Pix from John!

(8) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 13:17:30 (292) Lars Report & 4 Pix!

(9) barndad Doug Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 14:14:39 (292) Pix & Video URLs!!

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 15:07:44 (292) 7 Pix & Acknoweldgments

(11) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 17:53:49 (292) Pix comments!

(12) wanswheel Mike Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 17:54:14 (292) URL & Pix!

(13) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 18:05:14 (292) 4 Pix!

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 18:21:52 (292) 6 Pix!

(15) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 19:55:14 (292) Pix Comments & Descriptions!

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Apr 2006, 21:31:19 (292) Pix comments, etc.


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Comedy Corner

Brain Cramps

Question: If you could live forever, would you and why?

Answer:"I would not live forever, because we should not live forever, because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live forever, but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever,"
--Miss Alabama in the 1994 Miss USA contest.


"Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff."
--Mariah Carey


"Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life,"
--Brooke Shields, during an interview to become spokesperson for federal anti-smoking campaign.

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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre

NOW SHOWING:

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, April 2nd thru 8th: Eight Men Out (1988) starring: Jace Alexander, John Cusack & Gordon Clapp – and – Field of Dreams (1989) Kevin Costner, Burt Lancaster & James Earl Jones. SHORT: The Big Idea (1934).



That’s it! [tup][;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 3, 2006 5:49 AM
Good morning Tom and all. I'll have my usual two light breakfasts please, and a poncho for this very wet morning.

I think we had another great pix day yesterday. Rob, really great stuff! Do you guys still have that rotary interurban? Nick, I don't know the engine types from the Union Station pix. I tried to look it up on their website, but no help there. Nice links and pix from you too Mike. Thoroughly enjoyed the Lionel pix Mr. Tom. Nice touch on the comedy corner in your morning post! DId I miss something? We have no theme tomorrow?

Here is the last part of the Tunnel series:

Tunnels by Henry B. Comstock June 1947 Railroad Magazine

Busiest underground trackage on a heavy-duty railroad passes through Pennsylvania Railroad’s twin tubes under the Hudson River. Junction of the last shields on October 9th, 1906, was followed by a regular train service four years later.


No story of railroad tunnel work would be complete without some mention of underwater passages. On the basis of cost, the Pennsylvania’s Hudson and East River tubes head the list of achievements in this field.

When Gustaf Lindenthal’s ambitious bridge route proposal bogged down around 1900, PRR investigated the possibility of under-passing the two great natural barriers. Because a large portion of any such tunnel would lie, not through hard rock, but silt, cast-iron sleeves were proposed, made up in twenty-three-foot sections, bolted together and lined with two feet of concrete. Many engineers were dubious. They believed that the weight of the heavy trains would depress the entire structure, setting up terrific stresses at the joints and jeopardizing railroad operation. To prevent such action, the original contract called for the use of numerous screw piles – long pipes which were to be driven through holes provided in the bottom plates of the shell. In actual practice, however, it was found that such tubes showed little tendency to shift, rising and falling no more than an eighth of an inch with the tides, and settling only slightly during the first year or two of operation.

The real danger in this and similar shield boring, is reserved for the tunnel workers; not the structure. Faced with the constant prospect of breaking 9out of hard rock into mud or sand, the engineer calls the air-lick to his aid, depending on its artificial pressure to hold back the soft earth and moisture. Working under such conditions is exhausting at best – disastrous, when the silt is thin enough to “blow,” letting down a column of river water from above.

It is high tribute to Vice-President Rea, who integrated the vast one-hundred million dollar New York terminal improvement project, and to the staff of brilliant engineers assisting him, that the assignment was carried to a safe and successful conclusion in 1910.

Today there are more than fifteen hundred railroad tunnels in the United States. They range in length from the thirty-foot Bee Rock bore, located in Cumberland Valley Division of the Louisville & Nashville, to the great Cascade corridor already described.

Southern Pacific maintains more smoke holes exceeding a thousand feet in length than any other American carrier; its fifty long bores totaling twenty-three miles of covered trackage. Then, in order, come the Baltimore & Ohio (thirty seven tunnels, or 81,324 feet); the Pennsylvania (thirty tunnels, or 97,246 feet); the Louisville & Nashville (twenty-five tunnels, or 48,512 feet); and the Norfolk & Western (twenty-one tunnels, or 43,801 feet). Four other lines, the Great Northern, the Canadian Pacific, the New York Central, and the Chesapeake & Ohio, show aggregate totals of 78,286 feet, 52,494 feet, 49,359 feet and 48,242 feet, respectively, but with materially fewer individual bores.

Of the more than four hundred tunnels in this “thousand-foot-plus” category, only forty are now electrified. In the light of modern developments it does not seem likely that their number will be greatly increased. For the widespread adoption of the Diesel locomotive has changed the operating picture. It is not that these oil-guzzlers are smoke-less. Far from it, and any tunnel gang can testify. But within their protected cabs, an engine-crew can thread the longest smoke hole in comfort.

Take our old friend from the Hoosac. When the Boston & Maine set about Dieselizing its Fitchburg Division a couple of years ago, the big motors growled at undiminished speed past the stubby juice jacks standing by the North Adams terminal. Blue haze columned up through the steel nostrils of the new high-capacity ventilator which had just been installed at the top of the central shaft. Remotely-controlled variable-pitch propellers sucked the fog out of the corridor at the rate of 270,000 cubic feet per minute.

That was the beginning of the end for straight-electric, as well as steam power, on the Route of the Minute Man. Before you read these lines the last of the catenary poles at Hoosac will be burned off level with the ground – the first subterranean electrification project to bow to the new invader.

On the other side of the ledger there are unofficial reports that the Pennsylvania will start work shortly on extension of catenary west of Harrisburg. Included in this white-coal assault on the Appalachians, plans call for an eight-mile tunnel near Hollidaysburg. The object would be to eliminate the spectacular but difficult Horseshoe Curve. It will be a strange quirk of destiny if America’s longest tunnel is buried deep in the bosom of the same flinty mountain which bears the scars of our first diminutive railroad bore.

Wartime enlargement project in Southern Pacific’s tunnel No. 6, between Santa Margarita and San Luis Obisco. Supplementary bore above it will carry smoke away.


Not the least of Europe’s reconstruction problems will be restoration of masonry at much-bombed tunnel mouths. Here a Slovakian arch is shored up, prior to resetting of the stones.


[:I] A blonde was driving to the store when she saw a guy with 2 monkeys. She pulled over and asked if he needed help.
"Yes I do. My car broke down and I need to get these monkeys to the zoo. If I give you $50 will you please take these monkeys to the zoo for me?" He told her.
"Sure," she replied. So she put the monkeys in her car and drove off.
When the guy got his car fixed he started driving towards the zoo when he came across the same blonde walking down the streets holding the monkeys hands.
"Hey I paid you $50 to take them to the zoo," he told her when he pulled up beside her.
"We did go to the zoo. But we had money left over so now we are going to the movies," she replied. [:I]
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 3, 2006 7:37 AM
G'mornin' Gents!

What a storm system rushed through here last evening - winds clocked at 70+ mph - lotsa damage to homes, etc. Fortunately, we came through with nothing more than wondering if we'd be heading off to the land of Oz![:O] Ah, springtime in mid-Continent USA . . . .

Yes, Doug it was a fine Sunday Photo Posting Day! and another THANX to all who took the time and made the effort to Post Pix or send them to me for Posting![tup][tup][tup]

Theme for tomorrow is in the SUMMARY - Missouri Pacific![tup] You must've just overlooked it - as a matter of fact, it's been in the past several SUMMARIES. Whatever it is that YOU'RE drinking, I'll have a double![swg]

That must've been some loooooooooong game that the SOX played last night. There was a time I'd sit through rain delays, but no more - rather be in the car heading home and catching it on the tube. That's what happens when one gets O-L-D! Anyway, the Champs started off on the right foot, eh[?]

Nice finale with the Tunnels series - one of my favorites! Traveled through those Hudson River tunnels many times while riding trains to & from Manhattan many years ago. Good stuff![tup][tup][tup]

Regarding today's "Comedy Corner" in the SUMMARY - those comments should be evidence of why we shouldn't really take any of the opinions and comments made by our so-called "stars" very seriously. It makes me want to head for the lee side whenever the news media plays up the utter crap being said by the likes of these "mush heads."


Another "invitation" to stop by "my other Thread" - any offerings most appreciated.[tup]

I'll be behind the bar for the day, so whadilyahave[?]


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, April 3, 2006 8:46 AM
Hi Tom and everyone, a Schaefer in a bottle if you got it.

Here's some more. Too many, I know. Maybe it'll be a slow day. Take your time.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058358.jpg Group photo of Civil War veterans and Union Pacific's 'Iron Horse.' Vets get up steam for the National G.A.R. Encampment at Des Moines. September 17, 1926.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058359.jpg G.A.R. band members start to march, June 5, 1930.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052033.jpg I don't know what this is, I forgot to annotate.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics32/00050825.jpg Billy Graham and his wife, Ruth, arrive in Los Angeles on the Southern Pacific Lark for the Rose Bowl Evangelistic rally, September 8, 1950.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics42/00055682.jpg Mrs. Knute Rockne, wife of the late Notre Dame coach, and the famous "four horsemen" of football fame, arrive in Hollywood where the gridiron stars will make their motion picture debut in Universal's "The Spririt of Notre Dame", which will star Lew Ayres. From the left: Mrs. Rockne and the "four horsemen" - Harry Stuhldreher, Don Miller, Jim Crowley, and Elmer Layden. They chose Studebaker for their transportation. The idea for the story was conceived by Rockne who was enroute to Universal City when his plane crashed. Photo dated: November 28, 1931.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics48/00043989.jpg Members of a Coast Guard Spars honor guard eat lunch on the platform of the Glendale Southern Pacific station while awaiting the arrival of the Hollywood Bond Cavalcade, returning from a nationwide tour in which Cavalcade stars sold more than a billion dollars in war bonds. Photo date: September 27, 1943.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028226.jpg FDR

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics16/00027709.jpg Ansel Adams pic

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics40/00039739.jpg Henry Huntington's hearse, June 2, 1927.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics27/00048169.jpg 7-Up antique Santa Fe observation cars
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics24/00031881.jpg Los Angeles SP Arcade Station 1891
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics14/00006919.jpg First trolley in Los Angeles, Pico Street and Maple Avenue, 1887.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics37/00053355.jpg Clyde Barfoot
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics42/00055879.jpg Babe & Lou
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics38/00053539.jpg Ted Williams
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052403.jpg Billy Martin, Joe DiMaggio & Ed Lopat
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052044.jpg Yogi & Lasorda
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052169.jpg Willie Mays
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052338.jpg Mickey & Dean Chance
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics38/00053943.jpg Jackie Robinson & Van Heflin
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics42/00055793.jpg Edwin & Campy
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052282.jpg & Gil Hodges
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics37/00053464.jpg Ralph Kiner & Dixie Walker
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052345.jpg Dizzy Dean
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052256.jpg Stan the Man
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052107.jpg Yastrzemski
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics42/00055882.jpg Majeskie
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052096.jpg Brett
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics29/00049000.jpg Big bat
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics38/00053968.jpg the Babe boxing
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics39/00054015.jpg Joe Louis
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics05/00022010.jpg Vin Scully
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052066.jpg LETS GO METS!
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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, April 3, 2006 10:10 AM
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Holy !@#$ Toto! We had several waves of storms through here overnight - nothing like our friends to the west, but it was still a lot of wind and rain.

Much good material over the weekend.

Our 'steamed proprietor included material from RDG, SOO, and MP. One thing on my wish list that I never got a chance to do was ride SOO passenger trains.

Barndad's photos were interesting. There was a great scene in the "Untouchables" movie that was done at CUS. My wife and I were in Chicago when they were shooting several scenes downtown - wonderful stuff with vinatge autos and costumes as well as getting to see some of the actors as well. It just doesn't seem the same w/o the old Northwestern Station, however.

In addition we got more Lionel pictures; the gons I had were New York Central; several in black and one in red. I belive I talked abt. the milk car in a previous post, along with mentioning I had the PRR version of the operating boxcar which was lettered for WP in the post.

Then we got a shot of John's new addition and the Lego train set on the floor - reminds me of when Thomas the Tank Engine was operating in our kitchen - the K9 Korps made for some spectacular derailments.

Then Canadian traction from Rob and a most evocative shot of Penn Station from Mike.

More Hoosac tunnel material as well.

Last the baseball material; saw many of them over the years; hard to believe how many of them are gone because I can still see Teddy Ballgame with that beautiful swing.

Clyde Barfoot - He played for the Cardinals from 1922 to 1923; and then closed out his career in 1926 with the Tigers. Right handed pitcher and hitter who compiled a stellar 8-10 lifetime record with a career 4.10 ERA. He did have a lifetime bating average of .263. Nowadays he'd be signed to a multiyear contract at a salary (I'll stop before I get escorted to the Rat Room).

Opening Day for my teams (Red Sox and Cards) is today. Luck to everyone this season. BTW, sure had some interesting weather in Chicago for the Cleveland game last night; loved the horizontal rain.

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 3, 2006 11:36 AM
G'day!

Acknowledgments to wanswheel Mike for those great URLs and to coalminer3 CM3 for the return to the work week and the bar! (hmmmmm, somehow that doesn't "ring" true . . )[swg]

Those URLs on baseball really caught my attention. As indicated on earlier pages and Posts, I grew up a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. We lived and died with the "Bums of Flatbush." Ebbetts Field was my summer home and the memories are still vivid. Gil Hodges was my favorite hero and still is. The guy was a great human being and deserved to be idolized. They don't make 'em like that anymore, fer sure, fer sure. By the by, that is Duke Snider in the Pix with Gil. I can still name the starting lineup with the players numbers for the teams of the early 50s right up 'til when the finally beat the Yankees for the World Series title. Boys of Summer, you betcha.[tup] When they left - they left me forever. Can't wi***he Dodgers well, no matter who they are playing. Don't hold grudges, mind you, just vindictive![}:)]

I don't want to turn this into a review of the URLs - for those looking in - check 'em out, they are worth the time.[tup][tup]

Glad you enjoyed the weekend material, CM3 - the feedback is meaningful, especially to those who took the time and made the effort to provide the Posts.[tup]

Thanx for the round and quarters - no doubt we'll find use for the latter and recycle the former![swg]

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 3, 2006 2:28 PM
G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #80

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Seaboard Air Line Railway (SAL) in a 1916 advertisement from my private collection:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . Shortest . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . Most Attractive Route to . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . Florida . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . Georgia . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . Cuba . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . and the . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . Carolina Resorts . . . . . . . . . .

Where to spend the winter is answered in our Resort, Hotel, Golf, and Sports Guides. For Excursion Rates

Write W. E. CONKLYN
. . . . . . General Eastern Passenger Airport
. . . . . . 1164 Broadway, New York


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]


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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, April 3, 2006 3:03 PM
Greetings Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

I'm doing my part today to help reach that elusive page 300! Haven't got a thing prepared, but I'm here!!![swg]

Looks like quite a spread of URLs earlier on from Mike - he's gotta be "king" in that regard, huh[?] Nice ones also from Doug yesterday - a bit of a twist with the motion, wouldn't you agree[?]

I think I'll have a Piels in a frosty bottle with a cold mug. Also, I'm in the mood for a half sandwich - yeah, one of my 'specials' thank you!Hold the pickles.[tup]

That sure is a rather old ad - vintage stuff from 1916. Must've been quite a time for the railroads. Actually, they had the market cornered in those days. There's always so much more to the ads than just the words, if you follow my drift. Good job![tup]

Liked that new segment in the daily Summary and you are so correct about those Hollywood air heads and their opinions on our nation's security, politics, justice, et al just makes me want to join you at the rail.

Baseball fever once again. The Mets payroll keeps going up - but they don't seem to follow suit in the standings! Well, new broom, clean sweep - we'll see.[swg] Yanks[?] Aside from one or two over there - I'm not "into" 'em. Actually the truth be known, I've lost much of my zeal for baseball. This stuff with Bonds and the rest just sickens me.

Looking at those URLs of the greats from days of yore really puts it into perspective. You said it best - Gil Hodges was indeed a role model in so many ways. Served his country - USMC I believe, and never did anything to disgrace his name, his family or the game. My kinda guy.[tup] Loved those "Bums" too . . . .

I'll have one more - then I gotta scram outta here. The ten spot is for the "Lars Box" and a round whenever there's some guys at the bar!

Until the next time!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 3, 2006 5:44 PM
Good evening Tom and gents! I'll have a double-fuzzy-vision and a stumbling chaser. Looks like our horizontal rain finally got replaced with a nice sunny day! Nice Seaboard add Tom, and really enjoyed your jpg links Mike! So ..... the theme tomorrow is the Mo-Pac .. guess I better hit the books and see what I can find! In the meantime, here's part II of the Jesse James series:

The True Story of Jesse James, Train Robber Sep 1932 Railroad Stories

Typical Rock Island train in 11881, the year of the robbery at Winston, Mo.


The following September, Bud’s brother Tom Accompanied the gang to Huntington, W. Va., for a bank robbery, and met the same fate as the switchman. The next important train robbery in which the James boys are known to have participated occurred at Rocky Cut, near Otterville, Mo., July 7, 1876. This time the outfit consisted of the two Jameses, the same two Younger brothers. Clell Miller, Bill Stiles, Samuel Wells and Hobbs Kerry.

An Iron Mountain (Missouri Pacific) train carried a combination express and baggage car, a smoker, several day coaches and two Pullmans, in addition to an M-K-T express car which had been coupled on thirteen miles west or Otterville. The “Katy” car was locked, nobody riding in it. Baggagemaster Louis Peter Conklin, of Chicago, shared the other express car with the United States Express Co. messenger, John B. Bushnell, of St. Louis. Bushnell was guarding two locked safes; one belonged to his own company, for which he had the key. The other was an Adams Express safe, without a key.

“The seventh of July was a clear moonlit night, and quite warm,” Conklin explained later, “so I left the baggage car door open. About 10pm the train stopped suddenly at Rocky Cut, the western end of a wooden bridge across a little river. Then a shot was fired, the bullet burying itself in the door frame of the car in which I was sitting. I jumped out of my chair and took cover. I heard yelling.

“Sensing trouble, Bushnell went back and handed his key to the brakeman for safe-keeping. Pretty soon three men climbed into my car. I believe they were the James brothers and Cole Younger. They searched me for weapons, then shoved my side, while the engineer and fireman were brought in and stood beside me. The robbers forced me to help them locate Bushnell. Finally they got the key from the brakeman”

The strong box of the U.S. Express Co. was looted and its contents thrown into a wheat sack. The Jesse James turned to the other safe. “Here –where’s the key to this?” Bushnell said it was being shipped through, locked, and he had no key for it. Thereupon one of the bandits got the fireman’s coal hammer, or pick, from the engine and made an opening in the safe, through which Jesse stuck a slender hand, cut open a leather pouch, and withdrew money from it. That, too, went into the sack and the outlaws galloped away, without bothering the passengers. Jesse James hurled back these words: “If you see any of Allen Pinkerton’s men, tell ‘em they’d better come and catch us.”

After that the brakeman found ties piled on the track and removed them, and the train proceeded on its way. As soon as they reached the nearest telegraph station, which was at Tipton, Mo., Conductor Tebbetts gave messages to the astonished operator there to wire to the police and to Mo. P. officials at St. Louis. Posses were sent out immediately, but the James gangsters had fast horses and escaped as usual. They shared about $2,000 apiece as a result of that day’s work.

Several weeks later, however, a detective from the St. Louis Police Department tracked down Hobbs Kerry, who like Switchman McDaniels in the previous robbery, had been boasting of the sudden acquisition of wealth. Arrested, Kerry confessed that he merely minded the horses for the rest of the gang, whom he named. For this confession he was let off easy with a two-year sentence.

About two months afterward the James made a fiasco raid on a bank at Northfiled, Minn., in which Clell Miller and Bill Stiles were shot dead. The three Younger brothers were badly wounded while trying to escape; were caught and sentenced to life imprisonment. Bob Younger died in prison and Jim Younger, paroled in 1901, later traveled the Wild West show with Frank James and died in 1916.

But that is going ahead of the story. The James gang was obliged to acquire fresh blood as a result of the disastrous Northfield raid. The new recruits were Ed Miller, brother of the slain Clell; Wood Hite, a cousin of the Jameses, and *** Liddil. Six of them robbed a Chicago & Alton express train at Glendale, Mo., on October 7, 1879, in the usual border-bandit fashion, and got away with quite a lot of booty.

This was followed by a more serious affair – in which two men were murdered. Passenger Train No. 2 of the Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific pulled out of Kansas City at 6:30pm, July 15, 1881, due at Davenport Ia., at 8am the next day. It consisted of a combination baggage and express car, a smoker, two day coaches and a Pullman.

At Cameron, 64 miles northeast of Kansas City, where the Rock Island met the Hannibal & St. Joe Road, the train was boarded by the James brothers, *** Liddil, Cousin Wood Hite and Wood’s brother, Clarence B. Hite. It was characteristic of the Jamses to have sets of brothers in their gang. All five sat in the smoker.

The conductor was William Westphal, recently from the Hannibal Railroad, where he had piloted a special train running up and down in the vicinity of Kearney for the benefit of officers and detectives seeking the elusive James boys. Naturally he was not greatly beloved by James or Frank.

When the train pulled up at Winston, Mo., at 8:50pm one of the men in the smoker casually placed his white handkerchief against the window pane and held it there a moment as a signal. The night was very dark and peaceful, with fireflies winking along the right-of-way. There was no sound except a monotonous chug-chug of the old diamond-stack engine and the croaking of frogs in a distant meadow.

As soon as the trainmen left the train at the stop, two bandits slipped across the platform and climbed the front end of the baggage car, stumbled out of the open door upon the rear platform. The train was now picking up speed, and the unfortunate ticket collector rolled off into the ditch, dead!

Just then Southworth, the Pullman conductor, came up to see what was the matter. He saw his companion fall off the train, saw the smoking revolver, and bent a hasty retreat into the Pullman, followed by the passengers. Frank McMillan, an elderly stone-mason employed by the Rock Island, sprang up with a heavy trowel in his hand. A bullet plowed through his head and he, too, plunged off the car to instant death.

This second murder threw the passengers into a frenzy. Shrieking with fear and jeered at by the desparadoes, they sough safety in the rear of the train, amide the utmost confusion. Joe Webb, the porter, locked himself in a stateroom, while the frightened travelers hid their valuables.

[:I] Two friends are walking in the jungle. Suddenly a tiger appears in the distance running toward them. One friend pulls a pair of 'Nikes' out of his bag and quickly puts them on. With a surprised look, the other friend says, "You don't really think you can out run that tiger with those?" "I don't need to out run the tiger", his friend replies, "I just need to run faster than you". [:I]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 3, 2006 6:36 PM
I see TRAINS is featuring the White Pass and Yukon RR in their current issue, When I lived in Juneau in the 50's, we called it "Wait Patiently and You'll Ride"
While living there , NBC's "Monitor" called and wanted a short feed of a 'first' The WP&Y RR was going to load the last of their retiring steam locomotives on a ship, UNDER IT'S OWN POWER!. (the loco)

I flew up to Skagway in a Grumman Goose and sent NBC the feed.

Of course, they winched the ice cold engine aboard with cables as thick as your arm.

Monitor and NBC listeners got what they wanted, with a little broadcast chicanery on my part.
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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, April 3, 2006 6:39 PM
Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and a round please for which must have been one the best photo days at Our Place[wow][yeah][tup][tup][tup].

Many thanks ROB, DOUG, NICK, JOHN, LARS MIKE and of course TOM

DOUG Great station views the North Chicago looks an interesting building and the video links were something to go back to again.
Liked the views of the ex British class 58 diesels and a variant of the GM class 66s working on the continent.

NICK Good selection of photos. Really liked the Tri-Ang Drummond M7 0-4-4 tank. Good to see three of the models selected are of locos that have been saved. The loco Albert Hall was rescued from Barry and was restored at Tyseley, during restoration it was found that the loco contained more parts from classmate # 4965 Rood Ashton Hall and usually runs as this loco today.Good Layouts.
Interesting Signalling at Rosslare Strand. I must visit the Vale of Rheidol again, unfortunaly it is many years since I was last there[:(] They did not have the diesel then or at least I did not see it.

LARS Enjoyed the Canadian Photos and Map.

ROB Thanks for the 66 info perhaps the British ones may be assembled at St. Catherines. There is a good shot in Doug's video link of one running in Holland. Great pics from the Trolley-Barn.

JOHN Many Thanks for sharing the photo of the Newborn with us[tup]. A great photo.

MIKE Great links again. The quality of the old black and white news photos are amazing,a time when the famous used trains as a main way of travelling.

TOM Thanks for doing John's and Nicks great photos for us, and the great Lionel cars. [tup][tup][tup].
Another good week at the Emporium. I have not seen Eight Men Out and I enjoyed Field of Dreams.
Seeing Mike's links reminded me of the Pathe News we got in England at the start of the movies. A black and white news-reel.
Did they have them over here. I think they disappeared in the late 60s or early 70s in the UK.
Great early ad on the Seaboard Air line. Looking forward to Mo-PAC tomorrow [tup]. PETE.
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 3, 2006 7:19 PM
Good Evening!

Appreciate the visits by Lars ‘n Doug and of course the Posts![tup]

Looks like the Mets and Cards got off to winning starts, so keep the faith, Lars – only 161 more to go![swg]

That Jesse James series is like listening to the radio from back in the “olden days.” When I was a kid, before TV, we gathered ‘round the radio and listened intently to the stories being told, mostly in dramatic fashion. Imagination ruled the day as the story tellers wove their webs over the air waves. The radio sets in many homes were in consoles and there was a green “tuning eye” that would open ‘n close as the signal was brought into clarity. It was a riveting thing to look at while listening to one’s favorite program. After all, what else was there to do[?][swg] So, just like a good book, or a yarn spun here on the Forums, the radio stories were extra special. Good job with your version . . . .[tup]

Lars I thought we’d easily reach 300 pages when Nick posed the question. However, now I’m not so sure – unless of course we get some help. 20 Fingers Al has been AWOL and in spite of the chagrin over those loooooooooooooong Posts, just getting a daily ‘streamliner’ surely would help a lot. We still have time though . . . [tup]
Oh yes – thanx for the round![swg]

Special for sando: Some comments regarding your Post –

Noticed that this is your first visit to our cyber bar ‘n grill and you are welcome to join us. However, it doesn’t appear as if you understand what this Thread is all about or how we go about our business. We are an “interactive Thread” which means we acknowledge one another – have some things in common – and stick to the idea of this Thread: talk about “Classic Trains” in an adult manner with some adult humor thrown in. Pretty simple, eh[?]

Also see that this is your 7th Post, meaning you are a newcomer to the Forums. That’s no big deal, as we all had to start off the same way. However, some advice when visiting a Thread on any of the Forums – check out what it (the Thread) is all about before jumping in. Really helps in getting you engaged with the “topic starter” and others who have joined in.

Finally, it appears that your “profile” is somewhat lacking in information about you. Feel free to “click” on our cyber names (left hand margin) and you’ll see that the majority of us have given out enough personal info AND a way to communicate by E-mail to permit others to get to “know” us. That’s the way we do it here – or at least try.

By the by, the White Pass & Yukon Route was given some decent coverage back on page 283 – check it out. But first, go to page ONE and then proceed through the pages until you feel comfortable with the way things are done here.


Hey Wolfman! just caught your Post before signing off! Missed seeing you yesterday. But glad to know that you've caught up and were able to enjoy our Sunday Photo Posting Day! Sure could use some Pix from you - so feel free to send 'em by E-mail. Take the camera down to the JCity station and 'snap off' a bunch.[tup]

Do a little web search on the "Black Sox" and you'll come up with all kinds of info about the story of "Eight Men Out." It's a good flick - but helps to know the history of the baseball scandal of those times. Thanx for the round, Mate!![swg]

Okay guys, gotta get back to my "life!"[swg]


Leon the Night Man takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)!



Later![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 5:21 AM

from: www.viarail.ca


We open at 6 AM. (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


TUESDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


Tuesday has arrived and time to enjoy a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from the Menu Board, a pastry of two from The Mentor Village Bakery, and some freshly ground and brewed coffee! What are you waiting for[?][tup]


Daily Wisdom

If you must be a fool, be a rich fool ‘n people will treat you like a king.[swg]


”Our” Place” ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION is Wednesday, April 12th!


Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear – Missouri Pacific (MP) arrives TODAY!

* Weekly Calendar:

Wednesday: Pike Perspective’s Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday


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Comedy Corner

Yarns from the Barn
(from barndad Doug’s Posts)


[:I] A man wanted to get married. He was having trouble choosing among three likely candidates. He gives each woman a present of $5,000 and watches to see what they do with the money.
The first does a total make over. She goes to a fancy beauty salon gets her hair done, new make up and buys several new outfits and dresses up very nicely for the man. She tells him that she has done this to be more attractive for him because she loves him so much. The man was impressed.
The second goes shopping to buy the man gifts. She gets him a new set of golf clubs, some new gizmos for his computer, and some expensive clothes. As she presents these gifts, she tells him that she has spent all the money on him because she loves him so much. Again, the man is impressed.
The third invests the money in the stock market. She earns several times the $5,000. She gives him back his $5000 and reinvests the remainder in a joint account. She tells him that she wants to save for their future because she loves him so much. Obviously, the man was impressed.
The man thought for a long time about what each woman had done with the money he'd given her. Then, he married the one with the biggest boobs. [:I]


[:I] One day, a depressed crocodile decides to see his doctor about his problems. He says, "Doc, I'm not sure what's wrong with me. I don't feel like killing people anymore. I don't like attacking them, I don't like wrestling them in the water, and I definitely don't like eating them." The doctor goes over to his medicine cabinet, and pulls out several tiny blue pills. In amazement, the crocodile asks his doctor, "Doc, are those what I think they are?" The doctor replies, "Yes, I'm prescribing you some Viagra." Frustrated, the crocodile tells his doctor, "I'm not sure you understand -- have you been listening to a word I've said?" The doctor replies, "Of course I've been listening, you said you had a reptile dysfunction!" [:I]


[:I] One year, a particularly harried husband decided to buy his mother-in-law a cemetery plot as a Christmas gift. The next year, he didn't buy her a gift. When she asked him why, he replied, "Well, you still haven't used the gift I bought you last year!" [:I]


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre

NOW SHOWING:

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, April 2nd thru 8th: Eight Men Out (1988) starring: Jace Alexander, John Cusack & Gordon Clapp – and – Field of Dreams (1989) Kevin Costner, Burt Lancaster & James Earl Jones. SHORT: The Big Idea (1934).


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 05:22:56 (292) Monday’s Info & Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 05:49:39 (292) Barn Talk & final Tunnels & joke!

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 07:37:18 (292) Acknowledgments

(4) wanswheel Mike Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 08:46:19 (292) URLs

(5) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 10:10:05 (292) CM3 Report!

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 11:36:38 (292) Acknoweldgments

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 14:28:32 (292) Nostalgia #80 – Ad – SAL (1916)

(8) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 15:03:54 (292) The Lars Report!

(9) barndad Doug Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 17:44:40 (292) Barn Talk & part II Jesse James & joke!

(10) sando [?] Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 18:36:33 (292) 1st visit

(11) pwolfe Pete Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 18:39:36 (293) Wolfman’s Inclusive Post!

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That’s it! [tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!




THINK April 12th –
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Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 5:25 AM
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Railroads from Yesteryear –

Missouri Pacific (MP) arrives on track #1 at 9 AM today –

WATCH FOR IT!



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


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Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 5:49 AM
Hi Tom and everyone, a Piel's for Lars and Bob and Ray.

Doug, that glass-sheathed building is new, or after my time anyway. Haven't been to Chicago in decades. My favorite station was LaSalle St., when the Board of Trade building was the tallest in town. Nice view.

Rob, I had to look up "escarpment" in the dictionary. Also need the atlas open to the Ontario page.
No problem, always glad to be enlightened by your fine history and geography class.

Pete, my Dad met a celebrity on the train once, Dorothy Collins, a singer. She was on "Hit Parade."
We didn't get a TV set until 1957, but there was always radio. No visuals back in the day, so newsreels were vital. Until TV nearly killed off the entire movie industry. In school here they showed newsreels into the 1960s. Narrated by Ed Herlihy, the voice of Velveeta, a smoothly-Krafted cheese of sorts.

CM3, for explaining Clyde Barfoot, a wave from your local CV engineer.
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=1046922894&id=61

Today is Gil's birthday, so here's to "The Boys of Summer"


Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge on Marine Parkway at Brooklyn

"When Hodges managed the Washington Senators, he learned once that four players were violating a midnight curfew. Hodges believes in curfews and he summoned his ball club and announced: 'I know who you were. You're each fined one hundred dollars. But a lot of us are married and I don't want to embarrass anyone. There's a cigar box on my desk. At the end of the day I'm going to look into that box and I want to see four hundred dollars in it. Then the matter will be closed.' Hodges gazed. At the end of the day, he looked into the cigar box. He found $700." http://rndng3rd.com/NYMHall/players/H/gilhod.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 5:50 AM
Good morning Tom and friends. I'll have the usual 2 light breakfasts, if you please. Couldn't help but notice that my lousy old jokes resurfaced on your post. Speaking of resurfacing:

[:I] The day after a man lost his wife in a scuba diving accident off the coast of San Diego, he was greeted by two grim-faced policemen at his door.
"We're sorry to have to tell you this, sir, but we have some information regarding your wife," said one of the officers.
"Well, tell me!" the man pleaded.
The policeman said, "We have some bad news, some good news and some great news. Which do you want to hear first?"
Fearing the worst, the husband said, "Give me the bad news first."
So the policeman said, "I'm sorry to tell you sir, but this morning we found your wife's body in thirty feet of water, just off the coast."
"Oh, my God!" said the husband, overcome by emotion. Then remembering what the policeman said, he asked, "What's the good news?"
"Well," said the policeman, "when we pulled her up, she had five lobsters clinging to her."
"If that's the good news, what's the great news?" asked the husband.
The policeman said, "We're going to pull her up again tomorrow morning!" [:I]

Ohhhhhhhhh ...that was truely awful ... and I apologize [;)]

Here's a little blurb along the lines of today's theme:

From Jan. 1941 Railroad Magazine

My feet are all corns and calluses from 46 years of walking the tracks. The first year was ’81 and the last ’28, when I retired as section foreman. Young men didn’t choose vocations in the early days; they drifted into what came along. I went into railroading because the MoPac happened to be building west through my stepfather’s homestead at Rantoul Kansas. Adventure plus $1.10 per day – enough to marry on – lured me into the work.

I’ve handled crews of four men and crews of 70. Stormy nights when most men sat by their hearthstones. I walked my five-mile section keeping it safe for travel. One night the back waters of the Marais des Cygnes River rose fast until they had crept over a large part of my track, and the torrent was driving logs like battering rams against the bridges. I called out my crew, but they were afraid.

I sent them home and fought the driftwood alone all night. In my 46 years of service I never had a wreck, because I never took a chance. My gas-car was useful in the spring of 1926 when my grandson was born, for the roads were blocked on all sides and my daughter needed a doctor from Ottawa, Kansas. The MD said he half froze on that wil hand-car ride.

As a member of the 46-year MoPac veterans I used to take many rail trips, but they weren’t always pleasant. The run through Royal Gorge, Colo., usually takes a short time, but due to flood waters it was hours of uncertain creeping. Lying in my berth wasn’t easy, as I knew the condition of the track – John Elzea

[:I] A man standing in line at a check out counter of a grocery store was very surprised when a very attractive woman behind him said, "Hello!" Her face was beaming. He gave her that "who are you" look, and couldn't remember ever having seen her before.
Then, noticing his look, she figured she had made a mistake and apologized. "Look," she said "I'm really sorry but when I first saw you, I thought you were the father of one of my children," and walked out of the store. The guy was dumbfounded and thought to himself--"What the hell is the world coming to? Here is an attractive woman who can't keep track of who fathers her children! "
Then he got a little panicky. "I don't remember her," he thought but, MAYBE--during one of the wild parties he had been to when he was in college--perhaps he did father her child! He ran from the store and caught her in the parking lot and asked, "Are you the girl l I met at a party in college and then we got really drunk and had wild crazy sex on the pool table in front of everyone?"
"No", she said with a horrified look on her face. "I'm your son's second grade teacher! [:I]
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 8:08 AM
G'day!

In anticipating of the arrival of Railroads from Yesteryear at 9 AM (Central) . . . here's something to tide you over!

First Posted on page 106 as a Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Missouri Pacific (MoPAC)

Headquarters: St. Louis, MO

Route mileage in 1950: 9,700

Locomotive fleet in 1963: Diesel: 724

Rolling stock in 1950:

Freight cars: 44.923 Passenger cars: 533

Principal lines in 1950:

St. Louis-Sedalia-Kansas City, MO-Omaha, NE
Jefferson City-Boonville-Kansas City
St. Joseph, MO-Stockton, KS
Kansas City-Pueblo, CO
Osawatomie, KS-Wagoner, OK-North Little Rock, AR
Pleasant Hill, MO-Wichita-Geneseo, KS
Fort Scott-Larned, KS
Rich Hill-Joplin, MO
Carthage, MO-Diaz, AR
St. Louis-Little Rock, AR-Texarkana, TX
East St. Louis, IL-Poplar Bluff, MO
Bismark, MO-Salem, IL
Bald Knob, AR-Memphis, TN
Little Rock-McGehee, AR-Lake Charles, LA
Memphis-McGehee
McGehee-Vidalia, LA
Pine Bluff-Hot Springs, AR
Gurdon, AR-Clayton, LA
Longview-Laredo, TX
Palestine-Galveston, TX
Brownsville, TX-Baton Rouge, LA-New Orleans
New Orleans-Donaldson-Alexandria, LA
Forth Worth-Spring (Houston), TX
San Antonio-Corpus Christi, TX
El Paso-Longview, TX-Livonia, LA-New Orleans (T&P)
Fort Worth, TX-Cypress, LA, via Texarkana & Marthaville, LA (T&P)
Texarkana-Longview (T&P)

Passenger Trains:

Aztec Eagle (San Antonio-Mexico City)
Colorado Eagle (St, Louis-Denver)
Houstonian (New Orleans-Houston)
Louisiana Sunshine Special (Little Rock-Lake Charles)
Missouri River Eagle (St. Louis-Omaha)
Missourian (St. Louis-Kansas City and Wichita)
Orleanean (Houston-New Orleans)
Ozarker (St. Louis-Little Rock)
Pioneer (Houston-Brownsville)
Rainbow Special (Kansas City-Little Rock)
Royal Gorge (Kansas City-Pueblo)
Southerner (St. Louis-El Paso & San Antonio & New Orleans)
Southern Scenic (Kansas City-Memphis)
Sunflower (St. Louis-Kansas City & Wichita)
Sunshine Special (St. Louis-Hot Springs & San Antonio)
Texan (St. Louis-Fort Worth
Texas Eagle (No. 1 & 2: St. Louis-El Paso, TX)
Texas Eagle (No. 21 & 22: St. Louis-Houston & San Antonio)
Valley Eagle (Houston-Brownsville)

Of note: National Railways of Mexico operated the Aztec Eagle between Nuevo Laredo-Mexico City.
T&P operated the El Paso trains out of Texarkana and handled Texarkana-Longview trains.
Denver trains out of Pueblo were operated by D&RGW.

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]


THINK April 12th –
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 8:14 AM
G'day!

Just a couple of acknowledgments this AM, before setting out for the day's activties . . . .

barndad Doug - Thanx for starting off our "theme" with the MoPac trackwalker story . . . [tup] Also, thought you'd like to see your name "in print!"[swg] A two-joke morning!! <Arggggggggggggggh>

wanswheel Mike Appreciate the Gil Hodges URL (couldn't load the other . . . ) But 'round these parts it's "Let's Go Cards!" Anyway, looking forward to your URLs in support of our "theme for the day!"[tup]

Later![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

THINK April 12th –
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Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 9:00 AM
Now arriving on track #1 …..
Railroads from Yesteryear! Number Thirteen


Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources.


Missouri Pacific Railroad

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Locale: Arkansas, Colorado, Illinois Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Texas

Reporting marks: MP

Dates of operation: 1849 – 1982

Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)

Headquarters St. Louis, Missouri

Missouri Pacific (MoPac; AAR reporting mark MP) was one of the first railroads in the United States west of the Mississippi River. The company merged with Union Pacific in 1982.


History

On July 4, 1851 at St. Louis, Missouri, ground-breaking for the Pacific Railroad, chartered in 1849, marked the beginning of what would later be known as the Missouri Pacific Railroad. The first section of track was completed in 1852. In 1865, it became the first railroad to serve Kansas City, after construction was interrupted by the American Civil War.

In 1871, the Texas and Pacific Railway, which merged with the Missouri Pacific in 1928, set plans to build a line from Marshall, Texas to San Diego, CA. In 1872, the Pacific Railroad was reorganized as the Missouri Pacific Railway by new investors after a railroad debt crisis. From 1879 to 1915, it was under the control of controversial New York financier Jay Gould. Gould developed a system extending through Colorado, Nebraska, Arkansas, Texas, and Louisiana. In 1917 the line was merged with the St Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern Railway (SLIMS) and reorganized as the Missouri Pacific Railroad. Later it acquired and controlled other lines near the Gulf of Mexico and in Texas, including the Texas and Pacific, extending its operating area to several midwestern and southwestern states.

The Missouri Pacific was a Class I railroad growing from dozens of predecessors and mergers, including the St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern Railway (SLIMS), Texas and Pacific Railway (TP), Chicago and Eastern Illinois Railroad (C&EI), St. Louis, Brownsville and Mexico Railway (SLBM), Kansas, Oklahoma and Gulf Railway (KO&G), Midland Valley Railroad (MV), Gulf Coast Lines (GC), International-Great Northern Railroad (IGN), New Orleans, Texas and Mexico Railway (NOTM), Missouri-Illinois Railroad (MI), as well as the small Central Branch Railway (an early predecessor of MP in Kansas and south central Nebraska), and joint ventures such as the Alton and Southern Railroad (AS).

By the 1980s the system would own 11,469 miles of rail line over 11 states bounded by Chicago to the east, Pueblo, Colorado in the west, north to Omaha, south to the U.S.-Mexico border in Laredo, Texas and southeast along the Gulf seaports of Louisiana. MoPac operated a fleet of over 1,500 diesel locomotives, most all purchased within the previous 10 years. The company was a pioneer in the early days of computer-guided rail technology. It was a major hauler of grain, TOFC (Trailer on Flat Car), coal, ore, autos and dry goods. At the time of their mega-merger in 1982, the MoPac owned newer locomotives, more locomotives and operated more track than partner Union Pacific Railroad.

On December 22, 1982 the Missouri Pacific merged with Union Pacific and Western Pacific Railroad companies to create the largest system in its day, the "Union Pacific System", under the holding company Union Pacific Corporation, but maintained its own corporate and commercial identity until January 1, 1997. Union Pacific continued to use the MoPac headquarters building at 210 N. 13th St. in downtown Saint Louis, MO for its customer service center until February 15, 2005. Union Pacific now has about 50 employees remaining at the St. Louis office. The MoPac building is slated for rehabilitation as offices, condominiums, and/or retail space.

On July 30, 2005, Union Pacific unveiled a brand new EMD SD70ACe locomotive, Union Pacific 1982, with Missouri Pacific paint and logos, as part of a new heritage program.

Passenger Train Operations

the early years of the Twentieth Century, most Missouri Pacific and St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern passenger trains were designated by number only, with little emphasis on premier name trains. This changed in May 1915, with the inauguration of the Scenic Limited between St. Louis, Kansas City, and Pueblo, Colorado. Between Pueblo and Salt Lake City, the Scenic Limited operated through the Royal Gorge over the tracks of the Denver and Rio Grande Railroad. From Salt Lake City to San Francisco, the Scenic Limited operated over the Western Pacific Railroad. A second premier train, the Sunshine Special began operating on December 5, 1915 between St. Louis, Little Rock, Austin and San Antonio. Another named train, the Rainbow Special was placed in service in July 1921 between Kansas City and Little Rock, Arkansas. The Sunshine Special soon eclipsed the other trains in travel volume, becoming the signature train of the Missouri Pacific Railroad. An advertising slogan in 1933 proclaimed: Its 70-degrees in the Sunshine when its 100-degrees in the shade, referring to the fact that the Sunshine Special was one of the first air-conditioned trains in the southwest. When new streamlined trains were delivered, the Scenic Limited and Rainbow Special names faded, but the Sunshine Special had sufficient name recognition to co-exist along with the new streamliners into the late 1950s.

In the streamliner era, the Missouri Pacific's premier passenger trains were collectively known as the Eagles. A variety of Eagle trains were operated, with the first such train inaugurated in 1940. Eagle routes included the Missouri River Eagle (St. Louis to Kansas City and Omaha), the Delta Eagle (Memphis to Tallulah, Louisiana), the Colorado Eagle (St. Louis to Pueblo and Denver, the Texas Eagle (St. Louis to Texas), and the Valley Eagle (Houston to Corpus Christi and Brownsville, Texas). Missouri Pacific gained a reputation for aggressively discontinuing passenger trains after the mid-1960s, and when the National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) assumed passenger train operations on May 1 1971, the St. Louis to Kansas City route was the only Missouri Pacific route to be included as part of Amtrak's basic system. On March 13, 1974, Amtrak restored passenger train service over segments of Missouri Pacific-Texas and Pacific's original Texas Eagle route between St. Louis, Little Rock, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, and Laredo.

References

• based on article at Screaming Eagles
• Goen, Steve Allen (1997) Texas & Pacific Color Pictorial, Four Ways West Publications, La Mirada, CA. ISBN 1885614179
• Stout, Greg (1995) Route of the Eagles, Missouri Pacific in the Streamlined Era, White River Productions, Bucklin, MO. ISBN 089745991


Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources.


From other sources:

Missouri Pacific Magzine (1952) (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)



Early in 1948, MP ordered three "Planetarium" domes from Budd as part of a $14 million upgrade of the "Eagle" fleet. Two of the cars (890-891) carried "Colorado Eagle" on the letterboards, and were used primarily on that train, although they saw some use (as early as 1948) on the "Texas Eagle" and possibly other trains. 892 was delivered with "The Eagle" on the letterboards. In 1952 the first 2 cars were relettered "The Eagle" to give MP more flexibility in train assignments.

In 1952, Pullman Standard delivered 5 more domes to MP, 3 with MP ownership and one each for subsidiarys International-Great Northern and Texas & Pacific for regular service on "Texas" and "Missouri River" Eagles. (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)


Photo Gallery


MP E3 #7001 "Colorado Eagle Streamliner" at Jefferson City, MO (1948)
(courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Fred Schneikart)





MP E8 #40 "Eagle Streamliner" at Poplar Bluff, MO (late 60s)
(courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Joe Falvey)





MP Alco PA-2 #8009 at Raymondville, TX (1952)
(courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Arthur B. Johnson)





MP PA-3 #8019 at Texarkana, TX (1956)
(courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Arthur B. Johnson)





MP Alco PA #8018 at KCity, MO (1962)
(courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: postcard)





MP #890 (1964) (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Alan Hegler)




MP #890 in Denver (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Alan Hegler)




MP #891 "Colorado Eagle" (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)(foto: Alan Hegler)




MP #893 “The Eagle” at Pullman-Standard shops (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Alan Hegler)




MP #896 "The Eagle" at Pullman-Standard shops (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)(foto: Alan Hegler)


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Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Happy Railroading! Siberianmo

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