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Good evening Tom and friends. I'll have a Samuel Adams please, and a round for the house. Because of work and a really busy social life, this will be my last post until the weekend., and I can actually take time to read all the terrific material posted by yourself and Al on the B&O and C&O railroads. Really great work guys! I see another "Railroads from Yesteryear" has been posted, and it looks like a real winner!

Great to see you back Rob! Here's something that might be of interest to you:

From the pages of “The Fast Mail” written by the 20th Century RR Club

South Side Rapid Transit Co.’s Car No. 1, which was recently moved to the Chicago Historical Society to be placed on exhibit. Photo by Stan Brandt


On Jan. 19, Chicago’s first “L” car, put into service in 1893 to carry visitors from the Loop to the World’s Columbian Exposition. Dark green with gold trim, CTA car 1 was built as part of Chicago’s first rapid transit service, a steam-powered line that ran from Congress Parkway to 39th Street. The interior has mahogany wood, etched glass windows and rattan seats. Once heated by steam and lit with gas lamps, No. 1 was one of 180 built for the Chicago & South Side Rapid Transit Co.

In 1898, No. 1 was fitted with electric motors, and a motorman’s cab was added. The car remained in service until about 1930, and then was preserved by Chicago Rapid Transit and operated occasionally for historic celebrations. In 1959, the CTA restored No. 1 to its turn-of-the-century appearance, and recently stored it at the Skokie Shops. At the society, curators will repair some of the car’s broken rattan seats, level its wooden floor and touch up its paint.



[:I] Have a great evening ! [:I]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom And all.

I had better have one of the strong ales if you have one please.

I was getting ready to post this afternoon when the computer jammed up refusing to answer any commands, hopefully I will be able to post this time. At least before the problem I was able to read the B&O encores( it is hard to believe it is over 100 pages ago since they were first posted). Then there was ALs post on the Chessie and the Railroad from Yesteryear on the Chessie. These articles really are a gem [tup].
AL Do you know if the Turbine-Electric was hand fired or had a mechcanical stoker[?].

A bit of a coincedence on the Chessie, was last Friday going in to Jefferson City there were two CSX locos in the yard there I had not seen any from that RR in Jeff City before.

ROB great to see you back[tup][tup]. Thanks for the kind words for the photos, kindly posted for me by TOM. Sorry there wasnt any trolleys but I hoped you liked the early Electric Multiple Unit cars.Thanks for the info on the foxes and the Encore[tup].

DOUG When was the piece on Car #1written and where is it now, do you know[?].

Just a little on our train travel in the U.K. Most of the trains kept pretty good time apart from the day I was hoping to see NICK when most things that could go wrong did including points and frieght loco failure in front of us and even a 45 minute delay to put off an unruly passenger on the way back [V]. The new Pendelinos seemed to have settled in to service although the inside with some seats not lining up with windows is not to my taste, they certainly are fast with the 82.5 miles between Rugby and London taking about 50 minutes. You can hardly notice the tilt on them until one clear evening, watching the angle of the moon as the Pendelno went through some reverse curves was spectacular.
The fastest train from Glasgow to London with them is 4 hours 24 min. for the 401 miles, with 2 stops. I think that I would still prefer to take the 6 hours 30 min behind a Duchess
4-6-2 on the Caledonian if I could.

Bit of a Yogism but let me know if you dont get this post [:-^] PETE.

[trolleyboy]

A quick good evening again folks. Leon a dram of cr if you please. Thanks for the welcomes back folks makes me glad to know that I was missed.

Doug Nice photo of a nice car,I'm glad to know that it still exists few pieces of rolling stock really exist from that time.Levelling those old wood floors can be more of a chore than you can know. Our wooden cars take a great deal of TLC espeacially if they have wooden frames as well. wonder if the controller still works,if so it couldstill see some excursion use, wouldn't that be marvellous.

Lars Hey thanks for the welcome back. Tom did seem a bit beside himself. Hopefully with me back I can keep him somewhat smiling.[swg] I always try to hit the site at least twice a day in hopes that Tom can enjoy his retirement as well.[tup]

Pete Those DMU's are quite the piece of work. i've never rode on anything llike your pendolinos. I'm assuming that you can feel their pitching and yawing when they go into the curves. I suppose the closest I have seen and ridden on would be the LRC coaches on VIA's corridor with their airride self levalling suspension. I was luckey enough to ride on them once when an actual LRC locomotive was pulling the train. The loco's also self corrected in unison with the coaches. Well folks i'm off to add a couple of photo's to the old photobucket account so as I have some new/old stuff for next Sunday. Bye for now

Rob

[siberianmo]

WEDNESDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

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Good morning! The pastry case is chock full of goodies from The Mentor Village Bakery and the menu board features our <traditional> and <light> breakfasts. So, fill up a cuppa Joe and start the day with us![tup]


Daily Wisdom

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Info for the Day:

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* Weekly Calendar:

Today Pike Perspective’s Day!
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Saturday Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and – ENCORE! Saturday


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 05:22:29 (234) Wednesday’s Info & Summary

(2) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 06:29:45 (234) Streamliner #52 – C&O

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 07:42:25 (234) ENCORE! Nostalgia #15 – C&O

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 07:56:11 (234) ENCORE! Fallen Flag – C&O

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 08:01:00 (234) ENCORE! Fallen Flag – B&O

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 08:07:46 (234) ENCORE! Ad – B&O (1956)

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 08:10:42 (234) ENCORE! Ad – B&O (1956)

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 08:19:58 (234) ENCORE! Nostalgia #54 – B&O

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 11:36:05 (234) RRs from Yesteryear #2 – C&O

(10) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 15:44:51 (234) He’s baaaaaaaaaaack! Inclusive Post, etc.

(11) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 16:06:52 (234) B&O Streamlined Coaches, etc.

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 16:21:16 (234) Acknowledgments, etc.

(13) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 17:43:41 (234) etc.

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 18:03:35 (234) etc.

(15) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 18:09:05 (234) Encore – CNR Steam #1

(16) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 19:45:41 (234) PM commentary

(17) barndad Doug Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 20:17:00 (234) PM Post & Pix

(18) pwolfe Pete Posted: 31 Jan 2006, 21:47:25 (235) Inclusive Post, etc.

(19) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 00:00:04 (235) Incluisive Post, etc.



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Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a coffee and crumpet from the Mentor Bakery.


Pete you asked about the Turbine electrics they were mechanical stokers aboard,

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER # 53

WESTERN STAR CB&Q – GN – SP&S Trains 3-4 June 3, 1951 Chicago – Seattle/Portland daily each direction 2,328 miles 56 hours each way

The WESTERN STAR was the name selected for the new stream-lined running mate to the premier MID CENTURY EMPIRE BUILDER replacing the old heavyweight ORIENTAL LIMITED between Chicago and Seattle – Portland. The WESTERN STAR would require six sets of equipment for the slower schedule, the Great Northern Railway not only purchased enough cars for a sixth consist but also added several extra sleeping cars. The WESTERN STAR was inaugurated June 3, 1951 using the 1947 EMPIRE BUILDER train sets and the one new train set. The route of the WESTERN STAR would be longer than the EMPIRE BUILDER route as the new WESTERN STAR departed from the mainline westbound at Havre, Montana and traveled to Great Falls then returned to the mainline at Shelby, Montana and resumed its westward trek to Seattle and Portland. The “GLACIER” series 16 Duplex Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping Cars were assigned to WESTERN STAR service and the Great Northern Railway received eight new cars of this type for WESTERN STAR service along with the original ten for a total of eighteen. Three of the new GLACIER series cars were assigned to service between St. Paul and Great Falls, another two were assigned to overnight service between Seattle and Spokane in both directions in the WESTERN STAR. The following represents a WESTERN STAR consist between St. Paul and Great Falls. The WESTERN STAR became the main train for Glacier National Park scheduled in daylight through the park in both directions. The WESTERN STAR became the train used by tour groups traveling to and from Glacier National Park with many off line sleeping cars added to the WESTERN STAR during summer months for the rush of visitors to the park.

EXAMPLE CONSIST

362A EMD F7A 1,500 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

362B EMD F7B 1,500 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit

372C EMD F7A 1,500 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

266 Baggage Car

1100 Baggage 30’Railway Post Office Car

938 58- Revenue Seat Coach

1110 60- Revenue Seat Day Coach

1120 48- Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach

1121 48- Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach

1122 48- Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach

350 48- Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach

1140 WATERTON LAKE 10-Seat Lounge 10-Seat Lunch Counter 19-Crew Dormitory Car

1150 LAKE SUPERIOR 36-Seat Dining Car

1160 GUNSIGHT PASS 4-Section 8-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1184 CHANEY GLACIER 16-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1161 PTARMIGAN PASS 4-Section 8-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1171 AHERN GLACIER 16-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1181 KINTLA GLACIER 16-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1188 TWO OCEAN GLACIER 16-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1190 MISSISSIPPI RIVER 2-Double Bedroom 1-Drawing Room Buffet 27- Seat Lounge Observation

In the above summer consist car 938 was operated from St. Paul to Great Falls forwarded to and from Great Falls from Havre in trains 235 and 236

Car 1120 operated St. Paul – Seattle only

Car 350 owned by SP&S operated Spokane – Portland only in trains 3-4

Car 1160 GUNSIGHT PASS operated Chicago – Portland to and from Spokane in trains 3-4

Car 1184 CHANEY GLACIER operated Spokane – Seattle only

Car 1181 KINTLA GLACIER operated St. Paul – Great Falls only forwarded to and from Havre in trains 235 – 236

All other passenger-carrying cars operated Chicago - Seattle

The WESTERN STAR became the train to Glacier National Park and by 1959 the summer season trains were carrying Sleeping cars from other roads on tour packages to and from the park the following is typical summer season consist of 1959.

350A EMD F3A 1,500 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

350B EMD F3B 1,500 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit

350C EMD F3A 1,500 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

360A EMD F3A 1,500 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

1103 30’Railway Post Office Baggage Car

204 Storage Mail Car

264 Baggage Express Car

1110 60- Revenue Seat Day Coach

1216 48- Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach

1217 48- Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach

1219 48- Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach

1221 48- Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach

1142 TWO MEDICINE LAKE 10-seat Lounge 10-seat Lunch Counter 19-Crew Dormitory Car (St. Paul – Spokane)

1150 LAKE SUPERIOR 36- Seat Dining Car (St. Paul – Spokane)

1186 PUMPELLY GLACIER 16-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1169 SWIFT CURRENT PASS 4-Section 8-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1164 LOGAN PASS 4-Section 8-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Chicago – Portland)

1030 MINNESOTA heavyweight 36-seat Dining Car (St. Paul – Spokane)

1378 FIREBRAND PASS 6-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom 2-Compartment Sleeping Car (Chicago – Glacier Park Station)

1372 AKAMINA PASS 6-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom 2-Compartment Sleeping Car (Chicago – Glacier Park Station)

10014 IMPERIAL CARRIAGE NYC 4-Compartment 4-Double Bedroom 2-Drawing Room Sleeping Car (Chicago – Glacier Park Station)

2611 CITY OF RICHMOND C&O 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Chicago – Glacier Park Station)

2801 MONTICELLO C&O 11-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Chicago – Glacier Park Station)

2802 NATURAL BRIDGE C&O 11-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Belton – Seattle)

10017 IMPERIAL ESTATE NYC 4-Compartment 4-Double Bedroom 2-Drawing Room Sleeping Car (Belton – Seattle)

9003 SP 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Belton – Portland)

9210 SP 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Belton – Portland)

1293 CATHEDRAL MOUNTAIN 3-Crew Roomette Buffet 38- Seat Lounge Observation

TTFN AL

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox. This morning's selections are "I've Got the Hungries for Your Love and I'm Waiting In Your Welfare Line," and "Her Teeth Were Stained, But Her Heart Was Pure."

Spent yesterday outside in snow, sleet, ice, rain, etc. Today is very cool, but slated to warm up in the p.m. Gas jumped .06/gal. since yesterday - $2.45 today - Sheesh!

Man what a lot of neat postings yesterday. C&O and B&O material, pictures, car information...too much! For those of you interested in early history of the C&O, see if you can find a copy of Harry Frazier's Recollections. It was published by the C&O Public Relations Dept. in 1938 (at least my copy was), and IIRC, has been reprinted. He has a lot of first-hand information.

I'm sorry this is a short one this a.m., but I gotta get after it. I'll try and get back later today.

work safe

[siberianmo]

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Be sure you are getting the most current information when you log in! Start the New Month smart! [tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

<bonk> <boink> <bonk> (What kinda gavel is this [?])

Oye, Oye – All Rise for the Order of the Stools Selection Committee

We are rized ….

Quiet!

Who let that parrot in here [?]

Right!

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

You may be seated!

The Selection Committee of the Order of the Stools announces the findings of their January meeting.

Be it known from this day forth that the following customer of ”Our” Place has been distinguished by faithful participation along with willingness to engage in the banter at the bar: BudKarr BK who first visited us on September 16th, 2005, has been awarded a Reserved Stool, in the Order of the Stools of the bar known as ”Our” Place!

Congratulations to you, BK! [tup][tup][tup]


The next meeting of the Committee will be announced at a later date.

This session is now concluded.

<bonk> <bornk <bonk> (We gotta do better than this!)

All Rise as the Selection Committee departs.

We are still rized …

Confound it! (Is THAT an Armadillo I see over there[?])

Awk, Awk, Awk

Quiet!

Drinks on the house! Boris ring the bell, twice! [tup][tup][tup]

Tom, Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[coalminer3]

Another Good Morning Barkeep and All Assembled; more coffee, please; round for the house, (and since it is close to lunch) how about a roast beef sandwich with swiss on rye, lettuce, tomato, a slice of onion, and a pickle from the big barrel - NO Boris, use the tongs, we don't go bobbing for pickles!

Here's some more $ for the jukebox to play one of Leon's favorites "I've Got Hair Oil on My Ears and My Glasses Are Slipping Down, But Baby I Can See Through You."

Congratulations to BudKarr BK on his "elevation." 'Tis an awesome responsibility.

Seeing all of the B&O information led me back to the notebooks and the boxes. The October 29, 1961 B&O TT had a fine artists rendering of "Sky Dome" on the cover. That was interesting, but I thought I remembered some material about longhaul RDC service in there and I was right. Here's some ad copy and information abt. the "Daylight Speedliner," an RDC train.

Daily Travel Bargain

On Trains 21-22

NOW You pay only one way fare for the round trip
Daylight Speedliner
Between Pittsburgh-Connellsville-Cumberland-Martinsburg-
Harpers Ferry-Washington-Baltimore

Soft reclining coach seats, adjustable arm and foot rests
Wide picture windows, controlled air conditioning
Refreshment-diner service, smooth diesel power

Train 21 departed Camden Station (Baltimore) at 9:40 a.m. and left Washington at 10:30 a.m. with a 1:28 p.m. departure from Cumberland. It left Connellsville at 3:32 p.m. with a 4:50 p.m. arrival at the B&O Station in Pittsburgh.

Train 22 left the B&O Station in Pittsburgh at 11:40 a.m. and departed Connellsville at 12:56 p.m. Departure from Cumberland was at 3:00 p.m. with a 6:10 p.m. departure from Washington and a 6:50 p.m. arrival at Camden Station (Baltimore).

The fine print in the B&O timetable mentioned that Pittsburgh had “...connecting service via P&LE/Erie-Lackawanna.” The P&LE station was less than ½ mile from the B&O Station.

That would be an interesting trip -even today.

Again, I apologize for my abrupt departure this a.m. I'll try and visit tomorrow, but it's another outside day; Friday for sure.

Last for Tom - how about this Yogi-ism "He's dead at the present time."

work safe

P.S. I'm looking forward to movie night.

[trolleyboy]

Morning Tom and AWK and everyone else here attending this morning. I'll have a Barndad light breakfast mixer to get us started for the day, too early to partake in anything else at the moment[;)]

First a hearty congrats to BK Once our wayward traveller returns Boris should have his new stool polished and built-also he can have his car shunted into the members only parking lot by Tex the consierge automotive switcher[:0]

Tom I'm looking forward to tomorrows gazette-unless of coarse Boris saw the groundhog first and then all bets are off, it will likely end up in the stew pot[:0][xx(]

CM3 A hearty good morning to you sir. That sounds like an interesting book,I'll have to look for it. One of the perks at being at the museum is that we do the various trade shows and there's always one guy who sells old used books,we've dug out a number of treasures over the years.Interesting train info on the B&O in Baltimore as well [tup] I'm sure that it will spark some interest with the Boyz. Bit colder and wetter here today as well, our gas prices have been hovering fairly steady at the 89 cents a litre mark as of late< due to change shortly I'm sure >[:(!][B)]

Al Rain nor sleet nor snow never seems to stop the streamliner parade.[^] we are quite luckey to have such a font of info here.[bow] I'm guessing that West coast Dave will pick up on the SP&S info, oculd be the makings for some good conversation.

Now to the order of todays business Pikes perspectives. In my enforced absence from the forums the silver linning was that I have been able to finish a few stalled projects. A couple Brill car painting and lettering jobs and the final bits of bench work for the removable section of layout. Pictures will eventually come<not unlike spring> A couple of url's for those with the want and desire of some traction models.

www.customtraxx.com

www.bowser.com
Two companies Bowser makes HO and O scale traction cars and accessories poles,wire,catenery poles etc. Customtraxx carries the prefab ORR girder rail track as well as custom painting and decaling supplies, Both have links to many other fine underground trolley manufacturers worth a peek if you are interested.

Catch you all in a few with an encore.

Rob

[trolleyboy]

ENCORE ! ENCORE !

Just a redo of the Classic Steam # 6 The Roustabout fogured that since it's pikes perspective day a typical day in the life of a steam switcher would be appropriate.This first appeared back in November on page 176, enjoy again.

Rob

QUOTE: CNR CLASSIC STEAM # 6 THE ROUSTABOUT

The "Roustabout" was a named daily way freight ( except sunday ) that worked from Kitchener to Elmira and return with service to Galt as required. Power was usually a ten wheeler or mogel from the Stratford shops.Or on occation a Kitchener assigned 0-8-0. The engine would lay over in Kitchener and return monthly to the Stratford big shops for inspection ( no service facilities in Kitchener )

The Van ( caboose ) was left overnight at the Kitchener station on track three, and on weekends behind the freight shed. A plow and flanger was also kept in kitchener for winter clearing of the local branchlines. Crews from Stratford maned this train which ran entirly within yard limits.

The Roustabout typical day as explained in Ian Wilson's to Stratford Under Steam

An engine crew climbing into the cab of the ten wheelerprepare for the morning job (6:30am.)They will work the three tracks of the freight shed at Kitchener before the factory men come on duty.They will call on Krug Furniture, BF Goodrich, Dominion Rubber,Electrohome before 9 o'clock.

At 9:30 the second crew services the engine and heads back east bound for a yard shift , lifting cuts of cars for westbound freight 400 and eastbound 401 both due in by 10:00.As the day progresses they work the Lancasteer street industries again and finish up the day with the lifts lined up for the manifest freights.

Second crew then reswitches the big industries and will head down ( as required to Elmira and St Jacobs and switch the elevators and industreis there. Coal and flour as well as beer will be lifted from breweries and furniture plants along the industrial spurs. Poles for the grand river railway in Galt ( CP electric line ) At galt they cross the diamond with the grand river railwaay and switch Perkins Glue, RCA Victor,Canadain Blower and Forge,Lang Tanning Co, and Schnieder's Meat Packing. This is all on light ex streetcar rail with a perminent 10mph slow order 85lbs rail laid in cinders )

It was a heavy industrial area switched two and three times a day. Still is for the most part by both CN and CPR on their old GRR line.


Rob

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

A bit of catch up I see - but no time for anything other than to provide some "one or two liners."

Al and anyone else interested: My new series on the RRs from Yesteryear will appear 2 or 3 times per week. They are very time consuming to compile and with so few in attendance these days, seems rather futile to put 'em out daily. Next up is the PRR, which will appear on Friday. Thanx for the rounds![tup]

Rob What a comeback you've made! Aside from taking the "strain" from moi, it's always good to have another perspective 'round here.[tup] Also appreciate the reference to "Pike Perspectives Day!" for my guess is you'll be the only one to do so. Been that way, unless Nick makes an appearance. Thanx for noticing BKs induction and the Gazette Ad.

PeteCSX in JCity[?] Well, the only guy I know who may have an answer for that is P, but who knows when he'll pop in, eh[?] Enjoyed reading your RR accounts while in "Merry Olde." Makes me want to take a trip over there with you - maybe I should "trade" in my Toronto tix, eh[?][swg]

CM3 Whether in a hurry or not, we appreciate your input 'round here. Great song titles, once again! Where in the world are they coming from[?] Caught your comment about the pix and am eagerly awaiting their arrival. The more the merrier for Sunday Photo Posting Day! Thanx for recognizing BK, the rounds and quarters![tup]

Lars Things aren't as "grim" as perhaps perceived, although "it" does get a bit "old" 'round here from time to time. The good thing is we have more guys who give a Rat's Patoot than not. Unfortunately, we're not seeing them on a regular basis any more. Hope you don't get "turned off," as you've fit in quite nicely at the bar![tup]

Doug Good stuff last night and appreciate your taking the time out of your family time to check in.[tup] Appreciate the round![tup]

Okay guys, I gotta check out. We're having some new flooring installed tomorrow and I've got to clear out three rooms of 'stuff' to prepare for it. <ugh> The furniture will be moved by the installers, but things like book cases, stereo cabinet, stuff in drawers, etc. all need to be taken care of by moi. Then there's the 4 bizillion pound monster TV inside a custom made piece of furniture that will most assurerdly change the pitch of my voice when I try to remove it![swg] So, I'll check back when I can - and it will be more of the same tomorow.

Later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well how do guys-finally slipped the leash for a few hours so I thought I`d better check in--ROB-[#welcome][#welcome] and thrice[#welcome]-glad to see you back in the world-nice refresher on the Huntsville sub-no excuses for wrong loadings on my model of C.N#410[swg][tup]
Well as [4:-)][oX)]TOM is out enjoying himself [:-,] I guess I`d better get behind the bar for a bit,hmm-whilst I`m round here better have one meself.
So whats been happening,TOM & AL -Nice one-two punch on the B+O & C+O-well assembled pieces-plenty of info without swamping with detail,an interesting read[tup][tup][tup],TOM & CM3-a fine medley of unjustly overlooked classics-I`ve been a Bonzo`s fan for years [^][^].
TOM-the use of Imperial purple for the legal notices section of the gazette just demonstrates the class of the publication-remember,when moving furniture etc. loud swearing really Does help ( something to do with enhanced blood-flow or something...)
BK-Congratulations [#welcome] to a most select body--Your first official duty is to refferee the 3-way pool tournament betwwen the track gangs [:-^]....enjoy....
DOUG-looking forward to the pix[tup]
PETE-The S+D reference I missed the other night-R.E Tunnels,-Combe Down,just past Bath Jn and steeply graded throughout springs to mind,I sure there was another but the name escapes me.
Being steeply graded,Combe Dn had banking engines working through regulally and unconcious crews were a equal fixture
You also mentioned the West Somerset-visited about 10 years back,nice little run-The S+D 2-8-0 was on site but under repair-got a couple of bad-angle passing shots from the train-will send for sun.
Right,herselfs back from the gym about now-will call back later and post this weeks pikes perspectives-my S+D stocklist-for PETE,the only one for whom much of it will mean anything,later,nick [C=:-)]

[LoveDomes]

Hello Tom and Gents at the bar!

A round for all assembled in you please - looks like a ten spot will cover it. For me - I'll take a frosty mug of whatever draught is closest to you.[swg]

Don't know if I'm supposed to recognize a guy in the "Order of the Stools" if I'm not in it. You know, it's kind of like welcoming someone into the "club" when you aren't a member.[swg] So let me simply say to BK The Proprietor surely must think highly of you, Sir, and from what I've read of your posts at the bar, it was a wise selection![tup] By the way, where in this world are you[?]

I've enjoyed the running comments, especially since the return of the bar's Ontario Connection - trolleyboy Rob. As you mentioned a few times, Tom things simply aren't the same around here without the full slate of customers.[tup]

Be careful with the moving of this and that, my friend. I pulled a lower back muscle awhile ago doing pretty much what you're up to. The floor guys were going to move the heavy stuff, but I wound up having to do most of it just in order to access all of the wires, cables, and assorted other impediments to an orderly move. Decided to lift when I shudda let it alone. Ouch! Actually, still bothers me and the Docs tell me it will be that way from here on out. Caution is recommended.[swg

Thanx for the emails, I've been way behind in that method of comms lately - seems to have ganged up on me. So if anyone out there has transmitted to me with no replies yet - paitience![swg]

Looking forward to the Gazette and if it's anything at all close to what you put out for the last edition, this should be something special to anticipate![tup]

Nick We're going to have to figure a way to get you over here. Perhaps I can convince Tom to return to the "old sod" for a bit - splice the mainbrace - ride some transit - and take in some sights he hasn't seen for decades. NYC is a great place to howl and bark at the moon. Keep it in mind![swg]

Looks like my wife read that last bit of "info" and for some strange reason is now wearing a frown.[swg] SHE'LL GET OVER IT! I think I'll have another - and one more after that![tup]

I'll try to keep my "time" for tomorrow afternoon, so don't be concerned about the continuity of things around here. I'd say the guys are doing quite well.

Oh yes, in an email that I never got around to sending - or if I did perhaps it never reached you. I wanted you to know that Toronto is out for me as we are going to be elsewhere during that timeframe. Otherwise, it really looked to be something "I could dig." (Do people still use that expression[?] Probably not! Scew 'em)

Until the next time!

Lars

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all

A pint if Bathams as there is a lot of rounds about today[^][tup].

Congrats BK on the Resvered Stool[tup].

Thanks AL for the turbine info and the Streamliner Corner.

CM3 Good B&O post and great song titles.

ROB The tilt on the Pendelinos is hardly noticeable although some cars seem to ride smoother than others. I dont think the Pedelinos tilt as far as the 1970s Advanced Passenger Train. During the test running ( they never entered regular service) they made quite a sight passing through the curves at Rugby with the tilt working.
Great link with some great trolley photos, liked the Pacific Electric cars.[tup] .In the text on the link it mentions a Boat Trolley from Great Britain running in San Fran, do you happen to know from what city in the U.K it came from [?].

NICK Looking forward to the S&D list. Was the other narrow tunnel on The Somerset & Dorset, Devonshire tunnel [?].
One bad accident caused by the small bore and steep gradient of Combe Down tunnel was in 1929 when one the two now preserved 7F2-8-0s, built specially for the S&D,# 53809, ran away
The loco crew were overtaken by the fumes and the driverless loco topped the grade and ran into Bath yard with the result that 3 railway workers lost their lives.(including the unfortunate driver)[:(]
Look forward to the pic Sunday.

TOM We must go to the U.K some time. If we could get out of the Railwaymans Arms and the Great Western there are many great railways to visit and with a Brit- rail pass a car is not needed.
Very much looking forward to tomorrows Gazette [^][tup][tup].Be careful moving that heavy Furniture PETE.

[passengerfan]

Good Aftternoon Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a quick CR and a round for the house. Being so close to the office I don't think they will miss me for 15 minutes.
Will have to catch up on all of theposts later this evening in the meantime in keeping with Toms new series yesterday I am including the following.

CHESAPEAKE
&
OHIO
&
PERE
MARQUETTE
Streamlined Coaches
by Al;

The C&O for its size would order one of the largest postwar fleets of lightweight streamlined cars ever placed with Pullman Standard. Unfortunately it was more cars than the C&O could possibly use for their passenger services. Many of the cars from this order were canceled before metal was cut for their construction. Others were sold directly to other railroads such as the D&RGW, IC, and B&O. A further group of cars would be sold by the C&O after Pullman Standard delivery some having never operated in C&O service. The C&O would still end up with one of the most modern passenger fleets of any eastern railroad. For coach passengers the C&O would introduce some of the most innovative new coaches of any railroad.
The first of the C&O postwar streamlined trains to enter service was the two consists of the PERE MARQUETTES inaugurated August 10, 1946. These two Pullman Standard built seven car streamliners would enter service between Detroit and Grand Rapids, Michigan scheduled for three round trip daily. The Pere Marquette Railway was owned by the C&O but operated at that time under its original name. In 1947 the Pere Marquette would become the Northern lines of the C&O. The trip between Detroit and Grand Rapids was 152 miles in each direction with each train operating 456 miles daily. Each of the seven car streamlined trains provided revenue seating for 220 passengers. The trains were painted Enchantment Blue Roofs, Car Ends, Window Bands and Trucks with a Venetian Yellow Letter Board and fluted stainless steel panels on the car sides below the windows. The E7A units were painted to match minus the fluted stainless steel panels. The two head end cars and diesel unit were the only cars turned at terminals. The remaining five cars like the prewar Reading CRUSADER consisted of a pair of Coach Observations with Blunt ends a pair of Coaches and a 44 seat Dining car in the center. The trains were train lined with a Baggage 15’ Railway Post Office Car, Baggage Car, Coach Observation, Coach, Dining Car, Coach, and Coach Observation. The seats in the Coaches and Coach Observations were simply reversed at terminals. The consists were replaced by newer cars in 1950 and many of these original PERE MARQUETTE cars were sold to other roads.

101 EMD E7A 2,000 hp Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

51 Baggage Car

61 Baggage 15’ Railway Post Office Car

21 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation

30 54 Revenue seat Coach with 10 seat Smoking Lounge

11 44 seat Dining Car

31 54 Revenue seat Coach with 10 seat Smoking Lounge

23 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation

SECOND CONSIST

102 EMD E7A 2,000 hp Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

50 Baggage 15’ Railway Post Office Car

60 Baggage Car

20 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation

30 54 Revenue seat Coach with 10 seat Smoking Lounge

10 44 seat Dining Car

32 54 Revenue seat Coach with 10 seat Smoking Lounge

22 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation

BAGGAGE 15’ RAILWAY POST OFFICE CARS Pullman Standard July, 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
50 – 51

BAGGAGE CARS Pullman Standard July 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
60 – 61

56 REVENUE SEAT COACH OBSERVATIONS WITH 10 SEAT LOUNGE Pullman Standard July 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
20 – 23

54 REVENUE SEAT COACHES WITH 10 SEAT SMOKING LOUNGE Pullman Standard July 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
30 – 33

44 SEAT DINING CARS Pullman Standard July 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
10 – 11

All eight of the above cars with revenue seating 20-23, 30-33 were sold to the C&EI in 1950 replaced by newer C&O cars delivered that same year. The C&O added another pair of PERE MARQUETTES between Chicago and Grand Rapids in 1950 with connecting service from Holland and Muskegon provided in each direction. The Coaches came from the large Pullman Standard order of 1950 numbered 1610 - 1668. A single Baggage 32 Revenue seat Coach 1403 was also assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service in 1950. A similar car 1402 was assigned to the other PERE MARQUETTE train set in 1950; this car was a Baggage 28 revenue seat Coach Combination built by Budd for the stillborn CHESSIE of 1948. Two 54 revenue seat Coaches with 9 seat lounges 134 and 135 were delivered by Pullman Standard in 1950 for PERE MARQUETTE service. The four 30 revenue seat Parlor cars built for PERE MARQUETTE service in 1950 were 1800 TORCH LAKE, 1801 BURT LAKE, 1802 CHARLEVOIS LAKE and 1803 ELK LAKE. The final car built specifically for PERE MARQUETTE service in 1950 was Lunch Counter Tavern Lounge Car 1920 CHESSIE CLUB.

BAGGAGE 28 REVENUE SEAT COACH COMBINATION CAR Budd Company July 1948 (Built for CHESSIE assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
1402

BAGGAGE 32 REVENUE SEAT COACH COMBINATION CAR Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
1403

54 REVENUE SEAT COACHES WITH 9 SEAT SMOKING LOUNGE Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
134 – 135

8 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER BUFFET 30 SEAT LOUNGE CAR Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
1903 CHESSIE CLUB

30 REVENUE SEAT PARLOR CARS Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
1800 TORCH LAKE
1801 BURT LAKE
1802 CHARLEVOIS LAKE
1803 ELK LAKE

The Chesapeake & Ohio received three consists of lightweight streamlined cars in August 1948 from the Budd Company to inaugurate a new daytime streamlined train service between Washington, DC and Cincinnati, Ohio powered by coal fired streamlined Turbine locomotives. A connecting through car service would be operated between Newport News and Charlottesville powered by streamlined stainless steel shrouded Hudson’s. The new deluxe all coach streamliner named the CHESSIE was scheduled to enter service in September, 1948 but after one delay or postponement after another the CHESSIE was quietly dropped having never entered service. The CHESSIE would have been one of the most innovative if not the most innovative coach streamliners ever built with features never found on any other coach streamliner in America. The three train sets featured Coaches with revenue seating for 36 with an 8 seat smoking lounge numbered 1500-1511 and 1600-1609 as the standards for the trains with all other CHESSIE cars specialty cars except for the 1400 – 1402 Baggage 28 revenue seat Coach combination cars. The 1700-1702 were Family Coaches with revenue seats for 32, a diaper changing room, Children’s Playroom, Children’s Theater, and Buffet. The 1850-1852 series cars featured 5 Roomettes, 1 Single Bedroom, 3 drawing Rooms and 24 non revenue seats in the dome with all space sold for daytime use only. The 1875 – 1877 series cars were 20 revenue seat Coaches with a snack bar beneath the 20 non revenue seat Dome Observations. Car numbers 1900 – 1902 were 8 seat Lunch Counter Buffet 38 seat lounge Cars. Car numbers 1920 – 1922 featured 5 seat Lunch Counter 32 seat Dining and 10 seat Lounge Observation with Blunt Observation end and diaphragm installed. Cars 1940 – 1942 featured a Crew Dayroom 12 seat Lunch Counter and Kitchen, these cars were paired with 60 seat Dining Room Theater cars 1970 – 1972. If the CHESSIES had entered service several of the 36 revenue seat coaches and the 1920 – 1922 series Lunch Counter Dining Room Lounge Observations would have operated as through Newport News – Cincinnati cars. The 46 cars constructed by Budd for the CHESSIE sat idle while the C&O made up their mind what to do with them. Eventually the 20-revenue seat Coach 24 non-revenue seat dome Observations 1875 - 1877 would be assigned temporarily to PERE MARQUETTE service before being sold to the D&RGW in September 1948. The D&RGW after repainting these cars and installing adapters for mid train use assigned the cars to the ROYAL GORGE. The 22 coaches in the 1500-1511 series and 1600-1609 series were sold six to the ACL in October 1950, eight to the SAL in August 1950, and the remaining eight were sold overseas and shipped to Argentina. Two of the 1900 – 1902 series Tavern Lounge cars 1900 and 1901 were also sold and shipped to Argentina, while 1902 was retained by the C&O and rebuilt into Business car 19 in 1950. The three twin unit dining sets were 1940- 1942 and 1970- 1972 series were all sold to the ACL in December 1950. The three sleeper Domes 1850 – 1852 were sold to the B&O in December, 1950 and assigned to the CAPITOL LIMITED and SHENANDOAH between Washington and Chicago. The three Family Coaches 1700 – 1702 were sold to the C&EI in March 1951 the last of the former CHESSIE cars sold.

BAGGAGE 28 REVENUE SEAT COACH COMBINATIONS Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1400– 1402

36 REVENUE SEAT COACHES WITH 8 SEAT SMOKING LOUNGES Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

Vestibule Aft
1500 – 1511

Vestibule Forward
1600 – 1609

32 REVENUE SEAT FAMILY COACHES WITH CHILDREN’S PLAYROOM THEATER DIAPER CHANGING ROOM Budd Company August, 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1700 – 1702

24 SEAT DOME 3 DRAWING ROOM 5 ROOMETTE 1 SINGLE BEDROOM PRIVATE ROOM CARS Budd Company August, 1948 Plan: 9524 Lot: 9669 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1850 – 1852

24 SEAT DOME 20 REVENUE SEAT COACH 16 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (Tapered) Budd Company August, 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1875 – 1877

8 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER BUFFET 38 SEAT LOUNGE CARS Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1900 – 1902

KITCHEN PANTRY 5 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER 32 SEAT DINING 10 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (Blunt) Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1920 – 1922

CREW DAYROOM 8 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER KITCHEN CARS ½ of TWIN UNIT Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1940 – 1942

60 SEAT DINING ROOM THEATER CARS ½ of TWIN UNIT Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1970 – 1972

The streamlined coaches to modernize the remaining C&O passenger services arrived in 1950 from Pullman Standard several of these cars were listed previously for the PERE MARQUETTE services (1403, 1800 – 1803, and 1903). The largest part of the order was for eighty 52 revenue seat coaches of whom fifty-nine were actually delivered to the C&O numbered 1610 – 1668. These cars were built with two compartments seating 26 with a serpentine open divider between the compartments. The reason given for this design was it broke up the tube like shape of the coach seating area. These cars actually seemed more roomy than most with this center divider although in actual fact it was only an illusion. These cars were assigned to the SPORTSMAN, PERE MARQUETTES, GEORGE WASHINGTON, and FFV. Many secondary trains were also equipped with these coaches.

52 REVENUE SEAT COACHES Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to General Service)
1610 – 1668

Two of the above cars 1610 and 1611 were remodeled with a Kitchen occupying the space of the former men’s room at one end and the 26 coach seats at that same end were replaced by a 22 seat Dining room. At the other end of the car in the space where the large women’s restroom was formerly located smaller men and Ladies Rest rooms were installed and the 26 revenue seat coach compartment remained.

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Gents!

To Nick & Pete "Britian's Dynamic Duo" - nice Posts - inclusive, informative, some humor - just right![swg]

For Lars Good to see you at the bar and the "timeframe" seems to suit you just fine. The round is certainly appreciated by the aforementioned "duo!"[swg] Thanx for the concern - but I've already "ruined" my lower back (been there, done that) and there' s no way I'm about to put myself out of commission for another 7 weeks or so.[tdn]

Pete The more I learn about RRs in your country (thanx to those magazines you've provided each time we get together![swg]) the more interested I become in crossing back over the "pond." [yeah] I can see us somehow winding up in a Pub or three - but isn't that all part of the "experience"[?][swg]

Nick Loud swearing chases Juneau scurrying for cover. Gotta be considerate of the beast.[swg] The heavy lifting is about to ensue, as it's nearing time to pull the 4 bizillion pound TV out of it's "nook" and make ready for the 'morrow. Hope the bride has had her Wheaties today![swg]

Just wanted to touch base with the guys who are keeping us "up 'n running," and to express my ongoing appreciation for your patronage!

Lars Can't imagine not having a hulluva good time in NYC. 'fraid my barking and howling days (daze) are far behind me - other than here in cyber space!s[swg] Takes far too long for the recovery! Such is life approaching 68.<grin> Regardng Toronto, should something change, and one never really knows, just keep us in mind. The more the merrier!

Question: How come no one has stepped up to the plate to assume the "awesome" responsibility of Manager[?] No one[?] <Good Grief!> You'd think this was a "hard job" or something .... c'mon, it's all cyber stuff - it's all for <grins>. No one[?]

Nick If you knew a bit more about BK and his "comings & goings" you'd fear for the well being of those Track Gangs![swg] I have a feeling he can "handle it," and then some. I've been wrong before, but I'm right tonight, Mate![swg] Oh yes, before I forget - I did ship an Email off to BK to let him know of his Induction. GIven the difference in time zones coupled with his ongoing travels, it may take a couple of days to hear from him.

Okay - gotta get back to the prep stage for the 'morrow.

Leon the Night Man has the bar! Doesn't he look splendid in his Khaki desert uniform with the multiple pockets[?] The pith helmut could be discarded, however, those leggings strapped around the shined jump boots makes him look like someone none of us want to mess with! So behave, Gents![swg]

Set 'em up Leon and Boris ring the bell!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Right,back again for this weeks Pikes Perspective Pitch,my Brit trains stocklist.

First a little background, The Somerset & Dorset Jt Rly connected Bouremouth on the South Coast with Bath,Bristol,Gloucester & the North,giving the Midland Railway a direct route to a popular holiday coast.
The line was jointly administered by the Midland and London & South-Western Rly`s and their sucessors the L.M.S & Southern Rlys.
In the last years before closure the line was transferred to Western Region control.
Most of my stock is of L.M.S or G.W origin with a couple of Southerners and just a flavour of Diesel


L.M.S. stock:-
..........................8P...4-6-2 "Duchess of Abercorn"................Hornby
..........................8P...4-6-2 "Princess Elizabeth"....................Tri-Ang Hornby
.........................5MT..4-6-0 Black 5..........................................Tri-Ang/rebuild
..........................4F....0-6-0..........................................................Airfix
..........................3F....0-6-0..........................................................Tri-Ang
..........................3F....0-6-0T......"Jinty".......................................Tri-Ang
..........................3F....0-6-0T..currently "Thomas" for Hannah Tri-Ang
..........................1F....0-6-0T...."Johnson Tank"........................Hornby/conv.
...........................0F...0-4-0T..."Pug"-lined black.......................Hornby
...........................0F...0-4-0T..."Pug"-unlined black...................Hornby


Great Western stock:-
........................60xx....4-6-0..."King Edward II"...........................Hornby
........................49xx....4-6-0..."Albert Hall"...................................Tri-Ang Hornby
........................43xx....2-6-0...Churchward "Mogul"....................Mainline
........................22xx....0-6-0...Collett goods.................................Mainline
........................61xx....2-6-2T...large prairie.................................Airfix
........................45xx....2-6-2T...small prairie................................Lima
........................20xx....0-6-0PT..open cab pannier.....................Hornby
........................14xx....0-4-2T....auto-tank.....................................Airfix


Southern & Misc. stock:-
........................6P5F...4-6-2...BoB "Lord Beaverbrook"..............Hornby
........................2MT.....2-6-2T.....B.R Std 2.....................................Bachmann
........................2F........0-6-0T..J.72-sold to N.C.B,Norton Hill....Mainline
........................0F........0-4-0T..Ind.tk based on S.R. orig.............Tri-Ang Hornby
........................0F........0-4-0T..earlier version of above................Tri-Ang

Diesels & Southern Electrics:-
N.B-tops codes used for convenience,all units in green livery
........................08....0-6-0 English Electric shunter.......................Hornby
........................33...Crompton Bo-Bo diesel-electric.....................Lima
........................35...B/P Hymek Bo-Bo diesel-hydraulic................Hornby
........................37....E/E type 3 Co-Co diesel electric....................Triang-Hornby
........................."Midland Pullman" 4-car D.M.U..............................Tri-Ang
........................Metro.-Camm. 2 car D.M.U. w.4 assd C cars.......Triang
........................Southern Electric 4COR dmbs and trailers..........Hornby-Dublo and Triang
........................Southern Electric 2BIL dms and trailers................Tri-Ang
.........................0-4-0 Baldwin (?..)dock tank....................................Tri-Ang

So there you have it-rather than waste pages of cyberspace (?) trying to explain all of it at once,if anybody wants anything expanded on,just ask.
Right,just going to sit by the juke box and practice smiling,ready for the forthcoming tourist season[^],speak soon,nick [C=:-)]

[nickinwestwales]

Hi [4:-)][oX)]TOM-Fancy a beer ?-I reckon you`ve more than earned it [swg].n

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and fellow groundhog fans. Please accept a round on me, and chip BK for another for his newly elevated status as a reserve member!

Pete, the article on car 1is from The Fast Mail No. 417, February 2006. I just got it yesterday. I can scan and e-mail it to you if you would like.

Sorry to "post and run", but I've got to get up very early to be on hand for the groundhog "prognostications" in Woodstock. You will recall that the movie "Groundhog Day", released in 1993 with Bill Murray was filmed in Woodstock. The "bed and breakfast" he stayed in was actually the home of my friend and flight instuctor. Here is a shot of the festivities tonight, which they call "lighting the groundhog".



hope you don't mind the non-train-related post, but since groundhod day was mentioned, I figured it was ok. By the way, there has only been 14 occasions since 1887 that the groundhog did not see his shadow.

[trolleyboy]

Good evening leon set up a round for all those interested if you -please.[tup]
Does Boris know that you are playing the shell gang with Tex[?].Interesting usage for the pith helmut I must say.

Pete Hey i'm glad you liked those two websites. I'm not sure who or where that trolley arrived from. A suggestion would be to look up San Fransisco's public transit website. They liley own and run the car so you should be able to find out there. Interesting transit system in san fran. not only are the cable cars an opereating national historical monument , but their streetcar fleet 99% PCC come from all the various street railway companies of the US and Canada that operated PCC's. When you ride the cars there they even are left painted for their original owners. You'll see Pacific electric, Boston, Cleveleand ,KC, Toronto paint jobs and on and on, quite neat really and they are all well maintained.

nick glad you liked the reread of the Huntsville sub. No excuses for proper operation now. LOL[;)][:p] Interesting assortment of equipment you have as well, the 0-6-0 electrics will look quite good pulling the Northlander don't you think[?][:D]

Lars If you change your mind about TO let us know as Tom said definatly the more the merrier. Who knows we may decide to rendevous in your back yard. All of us on the SIRT could be an interesting thing.

Tom Carefull with that lifting. I kniow that the deed done by now , hopefully with out any herniations or otherwise. I've always found that swearing while lifting and dropping bzillion pound TV's is quite therapeudic as well,does scare the cat but she gets over it.


Doug Hey glad to see you pop back in. Holy cow though are they cooking that poor groundhog[:0][xx(] At first glance I thought that the people of Chicago had captured Boris and were doing the frankenstein thing to him, that or it was a new wizard of oz set.<ignore the man behind the curtain>Still it will be intersting to see what Wiarton Willie has to say for himself tomorrow, likley six more weeks of almost winter such as it's been this year.

Well fellers I'll check back later.

Rob

[siberianmo]

THURSDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

We open at 6 AM, all time zones. (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


Good morning! The pastry case is chock full of goodies from The Mentor Village Bakery and the menu board features our <traditional> and <light> breakfasts. So, fill up a cuppa Joe and start the day with us![tup]


Daily Wisdom

“What did you like best about school?” “When it’s closed.”
(yogi-ism)


Info for the Day:

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SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 05:15:35 (235) Wednesday’s Info & Summary

(2) passengerfan Al Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 07:29:16 (235) Streamliner #53 Western Star

(3) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 08:07:53 (235) AM visit

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 09:03:12 (235) Gazette Ad

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 09:36:38 (235) New Inductee, Order of the Stools

(6) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 10:39:54 (235) 2nd AM visit!

(7) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 10:40:23 (235) Inclusive Post & Pike stuff

(8) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 10:50:05 (235) Encore! – Classic Steam #6

(9) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 14:15:02 (235) Inclusive Post, etc.

(10) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 14:38:50 (235) PM chat

(11) pwolfe Pete Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 15:53:20 (235) Inclusive Post, etc.

(12) passengerfan Al Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 18:49:37 ((235) C&O and Pere Marquette

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 19:01:01 (235) Acknowledgments, etc.

(14) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 19:02:40 (235) Pike Perspective’s Day!

(15) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 19:12:54 (235) etc.

(16) barndad Doug Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 20:59:52 (235) Night Post

(17) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Feb 2006, 23:08:30 (235) Inclusive Post, etc.



NOW SHOWING:

The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre
Double Features beginning Monday, January 30th!

. . . January 30th thru February 4th: DOUBLE FEATURE Oh, Mr. Porter! (British - 1937) starring Will Hay, Moore Marriott & Graham Moffitt – and – Shadow of a Doubt (1943) starring Teresa Wright, Joseph Cotten & Macdonald Carey.


That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a quik cup of coffee and a crumpet from the Mentor Bakery.

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER # 54

DAYLIGHT SPEEDLINER B&O trains 21-22 October 28, 1956 Philadelphia – Pittsburgh daily each direction 418.7 miles each way 9 hours 10 minutes each way

The Baltimore & Ohio Railroad after a weekend rail fan trip using Budd Rail Diesel Cars between Baltimore and Chicago were impressed with the mountain climbing abilities of the cars and it was all that was needed for the B&O to order six RDCs for special service. The new trains to be known as the DAYLIGHT SPEEDLINER operated between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia by way of Washington and Baltimore. For the DAYLIGHT SPEEDLINERS the B&O purchased four standard RDC 1s 1908-1911 and two custom RDC 2s 1960 and 1961. Each of the two DAYLIGHT SPEEDLINER trains that began service from opposite terminals that October 28, 1956 consisted of one RDC 2 leading and two RDC 1s trailing. The special RDC 2s built for this service contained a standard Baggage Compartment followed by a small kitchen and 24 seat Dining Room. To the rear of the dining area was located coach seating for an additional 24 passengers, Each three car DAYLIGHT SPEEDLINER had a revenue seating capacity of 202.


CONSIST ONE

1960 RDC-2 Baggage – Kitchen 24-Seat Dining 24- Revenue Seat Coach

1908 RDC-1 90- Revenue Seat Coach

1910 RDC-1 90- Revenue Seat Coach

CONSIST TWO

1961 RDC-2 Baggage – Kitchen 24- Seat Dining 24- Revenue Seat Coach

1909 RDC-1 90- Revenue Seat Coach

1911 RDC-1 90- Revenue Seat Coach

The RDC equipped SPEEDLINERS were quite popular in the early years of operation but passengers still were abandoning the rails in spite of the fast timekeeping of these trains. Between end points Philadelphia and Pittsburgh these were the fastest trains operating between those city pairs.

In 1958 the east end was cut back to Baltimore and the trains operated Baltimore – Pittsburgh only.

In 1963 the trains were annulled altogether with passenger loads having dropped to less than the capacity of the RDC-2 and a single RDC-1, on most days of the week the RDC-2 would have been sufficient.

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

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Groundhog bites Armadillo, Parrot swipes at Groundhog, Pandemonium erupts

Feb 2nd, Mentor Village
By: Ed Venture, Staff Reporter

The Mentor Village Groundhog, Sir Sleepsalot, was awoken from his long snooze to find that his shadow was showing, thereby sending him scurrying back into his “digs” for a prolonged nap. Unfortunately for those in his path, which included Tex the Armadillo from the bar known as ”Our” Place, Sir Sleepsalot didn’t take kindly to the obstacle confronting him and took a “chunk” of Armadillo tail en route his den. Spotting this from the air, the Parrot known as Awk also from ”Our” Place swooped down upon Sir Sleepsalot and began pecking at both ears until the Groundhog rolled over in a submissive position, whereby Tex the Armadillo seized the moment and pounced upon the unsuspecting Groundhog. Meanwhile, Dilford Stumblefoot, Chief Keeper & Handler for the Mentor Village Groundhog, attempted to calm the situation and wound up in a three-ring circus affair with a crazed Armadillo, a diving bombing Parrot and an incensed Groundhog. At last sighting, the four of them were conducting a battle royal. Film at 11.


BudKarr BK Inducted into the ORDER OF THE STOOLS

Feb 2nd, Mentor Village
By: Verbal Funderburk, Staff Reporter

BudKarr BK was inducted into the Order of the Stools on Feb 1st . Unfortunately, BK is in Europe and was unable to attend “his” party at the Mentor Village bar known as ”Our” Place. However, the customary crowd of free-loaders and “usual suspects” (aka: customers) was on hand to celebrate his induction.

As has become custom, the induction ceremonies were carried out by the Selection Committee in the Pool Room of the bar. Attendees included the Track Gangs of the Can-Am, CN and CP railways along with municipal leaders, business movers & shakers along with visiting conventioneers attending the Four-handed Games Olympics at the Mentor Village Convention Centre and Indoor Camel Racing Track. The Gals of ”Our” Place were on hand to provide food and drink for one and all, attired in their hot pink and blue bib overalls with RR Engineer’s caps.

BK spoke to the gathering via satellite video hookup, cheering them on with a rousing rendition of, “You’re nobody, ‘til somebody loves you!” sung in the key of FLAT with the emotion of a slug drowning in a tin of salt and beer. BK was last heard warbling a rendition of the Icelandic National Anthem in the native tongue. Quite a late afternoon for one and all.

As the crowd began to dissipate, several attendees wondered aloud where those red marks on their ankles came from, as sounds of “clickety clack” could be heard in the background from what appeared to be a small animal scurrying into an adjoining room. Others were seen swatting at a multi-colored [UFO intent on dive bombing the dignitaries as they ran for cover. It was later reported that Awk the Parrot and Tex the Armadillo were indeed on the loose once again.

(Reporter’s comment: Attending these events is surely hazardous to one’s well being!)


Spotted along our highways and byways

Feb 2nd, Mentor Village
By: E. C. Street, Staff Reporter










Special Investigative Unit formed to inquire into recent charges of illegal activity

Feb 2nd, Mentor Village
By: Ima Crook, Crime Reporter

As was reported in the previous edition of this newspaper, several scandalous events have taken place within the Village that have overtaken the abilities of local law enforcement to uncover the facts behind each. The Can-Am County Office of the Special Prosecutor (CACOSP) has formed a Special Investigative Unit to determine the linkage between the hostile takeover of the former First National Bank of Mentor Village by Vito the Hit and his Boyz with the development plans for the Mentor Village Shopping Mall, the threatened extinction of our Black turnip and Sleaze bean patch and the recent “buggering” incidents of the Rug Smuggler sleuths. The Grand Jury has adjourned pending a report of findings by CACOSP, expected, “Pretty soon,” according to an anonymous source.

On a related note, Vito Grammarian (aka: Vito the Hit), was observed frequenting the County Line Massage Parlour and Transcendental Reading Room for what appeared to be a meeting of “family” business associates. Several rather large black limousines were observed quadruple parked at the site of the Parlour trailers. When questioned by this reporter, Vito’s spokesman said, “A guy should be able to get his parts oiled now ‘n then without having the press in his face.” When asked about the license plate’s of the limousines bearing the markings, “Vito 1,” “Vito 2,” “Vito 3,” etc. he remarked, “That’s a bunchacrap, youse got nuttin’ on me, ain’t no law bein’ broken. We’re all here to celebrate,” with no further elaboration. More to follow …….


Mentor Village Emporium Theatre has a Grand Re-opening

Feb 2nd, Mentor Village
By: Pop N. Corn, Entertainment Reporter

The Grand Re-opening of the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre took place on January 9th and was the village’s single most memorable event in decades.

With Hollywood-style searchlights flooding the sky, limousines pulling up to discharge the Gentry, along with a veritable “Who’s Who” from the County and Village, the grand old theatre was revived to life as never before.

With a packed house, the theatre’s first double feature presentation of Von Ryan’s Express (1965) starring Frank Sinatra & Trevor Howard - and - The Great Locomotive Chase (1956) starring Jeffrey Hunter, Fess Parker & Slim Pickens drew applause during and after the showings. Between films, live entertainment captivated the audience as veritable panoply of stars from years past emulated the acts once seen during Vaudeville’s finest days.

The Mentor Village Constabulary indicated that there were no reports of disturbances as a result of the gala nor was the crowd anything but festive and cooperative throughout the evening.

An anticipated confrontation between the Track Gangs and the Boyz from the Bank did not materialize as they were seated on opposite sides of the theatre and kept largely separated throughout the affair.

Surprise guests included Annie Bodie, Female Mud Wrestling Champion of 2005, who presented commemorative plates to the first 500 theatre goers. Foster Dennis Peeding-Bullet, NASCAR contender for the 2006 Can-Am 500, signed commemorative plates for those few who recognized him (her??). Aaron D. Tires and Anita Biernow represented the Motorcycle Rodeo Federation with commemorative Harley plates. As an after thought, it was overheard that perhaps the next time plates are given out, we should do so at the end, as there were sounds of glass breakage throughout the evening, according to Theatre Manager, Drew D. Kurtain.

Our hometown celebrity, Yogi was overheard saying, “This was a great night, we need to have grand re-openings more often!”


EDITORIAL

We wi***o acknowledge the fine work of all who support the efforts of the “Steamed Proprietor” of ”Our” Place in keeping the Village bar flourishing. While at times an irritation to some, the historic landmark building is a source of pride for many others. Generations of Mentorites have frequented the gatherings held within those walls and there are very few amongst us who cannot recall a Friday night pizza with that first “legal” beer when we came of age!

So, to one and all who consider yourselves as regular customers of ”Our” Place, we say – get a life!


CLASSIFIED Section

Free puppies. Part German Shepherd, part dog. Call: 852-5125 (daytime only).

Main Street Pizza: We deliver, or pick up. Call: 813-6122

Nordic track, $300. Hardly used. Call Chubby at 866-8733 (evening)

Exercise equipment: queen size mattress and box springs, $175. Call: 813-9963

Joining Nudist Colony – must sell washer and dryer. Call: 853-1276


SPORTS History

Baseball: Bobby Thomson of the New York Giants, from Staten Island, NY, hit one of the most famous home runs in baseball history, against the Brooklyn Dodgers at the Polo Grounds in New York. His homerun in the bottom of the 9th inning not only won the game, but also the Pennant for the Giants in this third and final pennant playoff game of the 1951 National League season.


Football: The Four Horsemen of Notre Dame comprised a winning group of football players at the University of Notre Dame under coach Knute Rockne. They were the legendary backfield of Notre Dame's 1924 football team. They were Harry Stuhldreher, quarterback, halfback Don Miller, Elmer Layden, fullback and Jim Crowley, halfback.


Basketball: Bill Russell (#6) of the Boston Celtics dominated the professional game of basketball in the ‘60s as no other player did. He reintroduced the art of defense to the game and intimidated opponents by his mere proximity to the basket. Russell received virtually every NBA honor that exists, and in 1968, he received Sports Illustrated magazine's "Sportsman of the Year" award. In 1980, he was named the greatest player in the history of the NBA by the Professional Basketball Writers Association of America. He was exceptionally active in the American Civil Rights Movement.


Hockey: Bobby Orr, considered by many as the greatest hockey player ever, appeared to fly through the air as he scored the winning overtime goal against the St. Louis Blues that returned the Stanley Cup to Boston after an absence of 29 years. May 10th, 1970 remains as one of the most memorable days in Boston sports history. Forced to retire after more than a dozen knee operations, the mandatory three-year waiting period was waived and in 1979 he was enshrined in the Hockey Hall of Fame at age 31. He was the youngest player to be inducted and one of only ten players to get in without having to wait three years. He has been honored with his name recorded on Canada's Walk of Fame. A museum exists in his honor in his home town of Parry Sound called the Bobby Orr Hall of Fame. In 1979 he was made an Officer of the Order of Canada, and was voted the greatest athlete in Boston history in the Boston Globe newspaper's poll of New Englanders, beating out Ted Williams, Bill Russell, Carl Yastrzemski and Bob Cousy.


Soccer: Herbert Chapman, Britain’s most famous team manager between the two world wars, is known as the man who created the modern image of the game of soccer. He was one of the first football managers in the modern sense of the word, taking full charge of the team, rather than letting board members pick the side. As well as his tactical innovations, Chapman was also a pioneer of physical fitness in football - he instituted a strict training regime and the use of physiotherapists. His innovative ideas spread beyond the training pitch. He was an early advocate of floodlights, white footballs and numbered shirts among many others. In 2003 Champan was inducted into the English Football Hall of Fame in recognition of his impact as a manager. A bronze bust of Chapman stands in the entrance of the marble halls of the home ground at Highbury, in tribute to his achievements at the club.


COMIX

From the Bumper:


WANTED: Meaningful
overnight relationship.


Guys … just because you have one,
doesn’t mean you have to be one …


Some people are only alive
because it is illegal to shoot them.


ADULT LEARNING

WINTER CLASSES FOR MEN at the Mentor Village ADULT LEARNING CENTER
REGISTRATION MUST BE COMPLETED BY Monday, February 20th, 2006

NOTE: DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY AND DIFFICULTY LEVEL
OF THEIR CONTENTS, CLASS SIZES WILL BE LIMITED TO 8 PARTICIPANTS MAXIMUM.

Class 1
Health Watch --- Bringing Her Flowers Is Not Harmful To Your Health.
Graphics and Audio Tapes.
Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours.

Class 2
Real Men Ask For Directions When Lost --- Real Life Testimonials.
Tuesdays at 6:00 PM Location to be determined.

Class 3
Is It Genetically Impossible To Sit Quietly While She Parallel Parks?
Driving Simulations.
4 weeks, Saturday's noon, 2 hours.

Class 4
Learning to Live --- Basic Differences Between Mother and Wife.
Online Classes and role-playing .
Tuesdays at 7:00 PM, location to be determined

Class 5
How to be the Ideal Shopping Companion
Relaxation Exercises, Meditation and Breathing Techniques.
Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM.

Class 6
How to Fight Cerebral Atrophy --- Remembering Birthdays, Anniversaries and Other Important Dates and Calling When You're Going To Be Late.
Cerebral Shock Therapy Sessions and Full Lobotomies Offered.
Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours.

Class 7
The Stove/Oven --- What It Is and How It Is Used.
Live Demonstration.
Tuesdays at 6:00 PM, location to be determined.

Upon completion of any of the above courses,
diplomas will be issued to the survivors.


THEATRE

Mentor Village Emporium (check local listings for showtimes)

Double Features all of the time!

. . . Monday, January 30th thru February 4th: Oh, Mr. Porter! (British - 1937) starring: Will Hay, Moore Marriott & Graham Moffitt – and – Shadow of a Doubt (1943) starring: Teresa Wright, Joseph Cotten & Macdonald Carey.

. . . Sunday, February 5th thru 11th: The Titfield Thunderbolt (British 1953) starring: Stanley Holloway, Naunton Wayne, John Gregson & Sidney James – and – Breakheart Pass (1975) starring Charles Bronson, Ben Johnson & Richard Crenna.

. . . Sunday, February 12th thru 18th: Bound for Glory (1976) starring: David Carradine, Ronny Cox & Melinda Dillon – and – Emperor of the North Pole (1973) starring: Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine & Keith Carradine.

. . . Sunday, February 19th thru 25th: Fahrenheit 451 (1966) starring: Oskar Werner, Julie Christie & Cyril Cusack – and – Flame Over India/Northwest Frontier (1959) starring: Kenneth More, Lauren Bacall & Herbert Lom.

. . . Sunday, February 26th thru March 4th: Fours a Crowd (1938) starring: Errol Flynn, Olivia de Havilland & Rosalind Russell – and – Holiday Affair (1949) starring: Robert Mitchum, Janet Leigh & Wendell Corey.
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Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Morning Tom a good hearty breakfast or in Our Place's case two light breakfasts. [:D] Need it to refuel after the hilarity of the reading of the local parrot cage liner. [tup][swg][tup][swg]

So H&H and Vito's boyz are upto it again are they. Do I need to call upon Dudley Doright to help "calm" the situation. ( I can here the music starting now ) < When I'm calling Youuuu ! >I'm not gonna touch the buggering of the rug smugglers bit too Jerry Springer for my taste.[swg]

Good to see that the sleeeze bean patch hasn't been buldozed yet with the warm wet winter we have had those beans and turnips should be a bumper crop this year. Heck Boris may even turn a profit [:O] perhaps some muzzles and obiedience classes for both him AWK and Tex will be afforded this year. Not to mention some somminex for a certain sleeping rodent,mid you it might as well be an early spring winters been a bust this year and it brings us closer to Toronto.

Be well everyone

Rob

[LoveDomes]

Hello Tom and Gents at the bar!

Looks like only Rob has been in to make comment on your fine efforts with the Gazette! A 3[tup] salute, Sir![tup][tup][tup] Great job - lots of laughs

Talk about irony - but let me back up a bit. My wife has been talking about new carpeting and floors in the kitchen and bathrooms. Actually, she's been bugging me about it for months. Somewhere along the line, she picked up on what is going on in YOUR house and now is dragging my sorry butt out to the stores to begin the selection process. Oh moan and groan and pain and suffering. The things we men have to do![swg] It's YOUR fault! So, I'd think the drinks should be on YOU! Why not[?] Boris go on, ring it - the boss man is buying![swg]

Got a real kick out of those classes for men. Where in the world do you come up with these things[?] Then those signs were killers for laughing as well. My wife thinks I'm losing it - and again, it's YOUR fault![swg] Thelead story about the Groundhog and all the rest - just a nice way to start the day! Beats reading the real world stuff a thousand fold.

Rob If you are ever down this way, be sure to give a "holler," as it would be my pleasure to show you around a bit. A rendezvous aboard the old S.I.R.T., now there's an image to reflect on![swg] Thanks for the consideration for Toronto, I'm sure you'll all carry on quite well without having another sailor in your midst![swg]

Buy the bar a drink, barkeep and here's a ten spot to cover it![tup]

Until the next time!

Lars

[LoveDomes]

Hey Tom

Darned near forgot! I liked that reference to Bobby Thomson being from Staten Island. Don't believe very many people younger than us have a "clue" about the "Shot heard 'round the world," but it was a huge event in baseball.

My family went absolutely beserk over that homer - all Giants fans, big time; except for little old me (at the time!) I was a Dodger's fan. Alas, alak, where was Joe Black[?][swg] Poor Ralph Branca - he never, ever was the same after giving up that homer. So, anyway, thanks for the nostalgia trip, much appreciated!

Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Thanx for the Gazette comments, Rob 'n Lars! Glad it "worked" for you two .....

House is upside down today and it doesn't appear as if the work will be finished 'til tomorrow. Things are moving along well, however with a rather late start, a couple of snafu's here 'n there, well, y'all know how that goes, eh[?][swg]

Received your Email Rob - appreciate your comments, thanx![tup]

Lars Joe Black didn't make it up to the "bigs" 'til 1952, so he wasn't on the roster when Thomson killed the Bums![swg] Anyway, nice ryhme![tup] When that happened, it was the first time I ever saw my mother cry. Big Dodgers fans in my family. Had grandparents who lived not too far from Ebbetts Field ... spent many a summer's day watching those "Boys of Summer!" Good memories. And yet ANOTHER similarity - we both were Brooklyn Dodger fans! <yikes>

Rob Seems like you're really "into" the Gazette, so it's past due for some "input" for the next issue![swg]

Lars Some of the "stuff" I've used came from those "silly" Emails that people seem to think have to be readdresssed and readdressed and ..... Anyway, now that I'm in the market for "material," I've begun a file of sorts for "stuff" to use in the paper. I'm referring to things like those signs, the bumper stickers and the courses for men. Glad you enjoyed it all! Thanx for the round![tup]

I'll check back in this evening, but right now, got other things to attend to, like getting Juneau out - that is if we can find a "hole" to sneak through to the door!


Later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

For: Nick

Sorry, Mate ... .forgot to make mention of your fine work last night with the model RR input. A rather impressive lot of rolling stock, fer sure, fer sure![tup]

A drink on me for all that effort - ring it Boris your man is thirsty![swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and a round for the bar please.

TOM An excellent issue of the Gazette[tup][tup]. Will the film of the fracas involving Sir Sleepalot and his adversarys be shown between features at the Emporium, can we get the censors approval [?]. Some great films coming up. Perhaps later Jack Warner in Train of Events and A. Ridley's Ghost Train could be shown.
A footnote to Herbert Chapman after the end of this season****nal will be moving from the marble halls of Highbury to a new ground.****nal have never been out of the Engli***op devison.
Hope the bride dosn't see the courses on offer I would certainly be signed for the shopping one [:-^].

NICK Thanks for the list of the model locos a good selection. What is the number of the Black Five[?] I did not know there was a model of the 4-Cor and to show my age I can remember when the Metro Cam. DMU model first came out.

AL Good Streamliner with the RDCs. It is a shame the passenger numbers tailed off.
I suppose a lot was lost to the airlines [:(].

DOUG. If you could E-Mail on car #1 it would be great[tup].

ROB I will try to find a link to the San Fran trolleys. I read recently that the Blackpool tramway in England is considring modernizing its fleet most of which is getting on in years. I really must get there to see the old trams before they do.

TOM Can I place my order for[C=:-)] Nick's Fish and Chips with mushy peas for later please and can you take a[bow] for the gazette.
If Vito or his pals want a drink you can add it to my tab[:-^]. PETE.