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SANTA FE BERKSHIRE QUESTION

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SANTA FE BERKSHIRE QUESTION
Posted by Jim55 on Thursday, May 19, 2022 9:09 PM

I just purchased a nice Lionel Santa Fe Berkshire 2-8-4 loco that I want to use as the lead for a Lionel Santa Fe Madison passenger car consist I have.  I try to keep things as scale as I can.  Can anyone confirm to me that Santa Fe Berkshires ever pulled passenger consists? I'm concerned that now that I have the Berkshire it will not be a true representation of my Santa Fe because I can only find one weak instance of such a combination put together - a Lionel advertisement.

      

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Posted by timz on Friday, May 20, 2022 6:09 PM

Ever? No one can prove they never once pulled passengers, but will be hard to find a pic of one doing it.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:50 PM

Let's put it this way, never say never as far as "power for the run" is concerned. There may not be much photo evidence for a Santa Fe Berkshire pulling a passenger consist, but there's plenty of photo evidence of freight locomotives pulling passenger consists on other railroads.  

There's even photo evidence of the reverse, such as passenger locomotives pulling freight.  So if I were you I wouldn't worry about it.  

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Posted by pennytrains on Saturday, May 21, 2022 6:47 PM

They look pretty darn good together if you ask me!  Big Smile  Unless someone has all the train master reports from every train the Santa Fe ever ran I'd say it would be harder to prove that the AT&SF never used Berks on passenger consists.

Big Smile  Same me, different spelling!  Big Smile

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Sunday, June 19, 2022 3:30 AM

From what I understand, ATSF didn't like their Berks - they were first generation machines with low (63 inch) drivers, which made them too slow for the high speed line the Santa Fe was. Second generation Berks like the NKP's PM's and C&O's with 69 inch drivers would have been a different kettle of fish

It's too bad, they were handsome egines

 

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Posted by rcdrye on Sunday, June 19, 2022 8:06 AM

The second-hand B&M Berks were pretty much restricted to helper service.  They assisted FT-powered freights and E1-powered passenger trains as well as steam-powered trains.  They were replaced by FTs on the B&M on the Hoosac Tunnel route.

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