180 was a conduit car, used on both "T" Third & Amsterdam Avenues, as in on a previous posting on this thread. Summer, 1947, it got poles and is in this poto onn Boston Road, north of Southern Blvd. intersection. 371 was also an East 65th Street Shop prodeuct and was always a pole car, assigned to Ogden Avenue. A year earlier than this photo, both cars would have been convertables, a year later buses,
627, pictured in an earlier post at the Bowery and 6th Street, Manhattan, March, 1947, got trolley poles in June, and is in The Bronx, Southern Boulevard and Berratto Street.
Back to West Farms Square in The Bronx, with the el.evated structure and 177th Street Station used by the 2 and 5 in the background.
152 on "C" is ex-Manhattan, one of earlier, 1936, home-built lightweights, 672, on the T, one of the newest, 1939.
North of Gettys Square, tracks on North Broadway used by 2, 6, and 7, both directions, and 5 and 9 southbound only.
Improved the photo of 384 on Warburton Avenue at the Haqstings-Yonkers Town Line:
Further correrction. Believe I got it correct this time:
Miningman Any chance you could try to get the pictures up Dave. Two 125th Street photos that dissapeared have been found and reposted. The third page of this thread.
Any chance you could try to get the pictures up Dave.
Two 125th Street photos that dissapeared have been found and reposted. The third page of this thread.
Carrection:
From a postcard,n sent bme by bHenry Raudenbush:
And the photo that suggested the discussion:
A March, 1947 ERA fan-trip covered the Sound View Avenue Line the day after the last regulr streetcar service. The regular service had been provided by the four covertables (straight-sided) that TARS had equipped field shunts as an experiment, not implemented otherwise. (Three required for rush-hour service.) Never had the chance to ride any of the four.
Another look at the northern end of vthe Warburton Avenue Line at thecv Yonkers-0Hastings border:
More on the 6th St. and Thec Bowery short-turn fascility
Third Avenue at 145th Street, where the Elevated curves from its PRW leading to its Harlem River Bridge, south of 133rd Street. Boston Road merges into Third Avenue between 150th and 151st Streets. 194 is an ex-Manhattan, ex-conduit car. Photos here all in 1947. Joe Frank helped with the exact location.
680 was one of the last home-built lightweights (late 1939), here on its normasl Treemont Avenue assignment. Shown at West Farms Square, used by the B, C, T, V, and Z.
For a borrow by the Southern Blvd. line, there must have been somewhat of a scramble for the correct portable dash sign, Picture is at the norther Bronx Park West terminal.
Second correction. Not Bruckner, not Bernside, Fordham Road correct.
Apologies
You are right. Also, I correcteed the caption. Bernside Avenue.
daveklepper
It looks like the car is stuck and blocking the trollys.
Two for Winter in The Bronx. One at West Farms Car House, with one of New York's newest. and one----
Bruckner Blvd.? NO!! Bernside Avenue NO! a second time. Floedham Rload and oosted earlier. Apologies!
Previous post is in error. Closer examination indicates the Market location is now the "Yonkers Food Court>"
The bank is in the building to the right of the "food court."
From the Google symbolism, the "food court" includes sit-down dining.
According to a photo sent me, the market and the store adjacent are now occupied by ac Bank. The buildings remain.
Two Yonkers photos. 357- uis on the "4" McLean Avenue Line, north of the Yonkers - The Bronx Line, on Central Park Avenue, where the line trasnsitions from center-of-the-road to weidely-spaced. 371 is south of the northern terminal of the Park Avernue (-Broadwsay), Palasades Avenue, south of Roberts Avenue..
Dave - I think I may have found the spot / intersection where the 324 "A"Route TARS car was shot --- will have to get back to it later -- very ill this weekend -- possible food poisioning (salmonella or bochelism) -- I put MAIN ST (which is Boston rd Rt-1 now) and Pelham Ave in the Google Map Search -- and got the "town" drive-along current images. Actually found DRAKE STREET where ERA map shows a right hand track (dotted line) turn from the 2 track mainline tracks on MAIN ST (called back then, now called Boston Road-US1 ) of present time. I think that photo was taken on Main Street which is all business type real estate . UNFORTUNATELY --- its mainly ALL NEW real estate since the 1940's photo -- likely done afterr WWII
No trace of anything left from whats in the photo from that 1940's period..
The ERA map is badly drawing-flawed in its compression the way it shows Pelham intersecting with Main St...which is more of a 90 degree angle in reaglity and not the slight merging angle as ERA map shows.
Anyway, I will provide some current photos of where I think the shot was taken --- likely ON MAIN ST (US-1 now) just before or just after DRAKE STREET and that dotted-line curving branch track seen on ERA map. I DO NOT believe Pelham Or Pelhamdale Avenues, which is mainly all very old OLD residential homes thru-out, was the location of the trolley "A" route car scene..
Regards - Joe F
Regarding ERA trackmaps. From a friend wo volunteers regularly bat the ERA office:
The ERA hasn’t had any maps for sale in decades. One of my goals for the ERA is to archivally scan every track/route map that we ever produced.
And should I pray for your health?
I understand. For me the main issue was settled by the ERA map and still is. Perhaps you have a younger and trustworthy raifan friend who can enjoy ther idea of taking the bus ride and settl.ing the questions concerning the changes?
Dave -- I have my own aggravating medical issues ongoing now and that is not even a remote possibility for me -- time wise, energy wise, health-wise and expsense-wise. For just a lark trip at that.
Three New Rochelle rainy-day fan-trip photos, the second car an ex-Manhattan car. one photo at the railroad station. At the Post-Office location, there was an unused track straight ahead where 121 is shown turning left.
Joe, even if I were not 90 and somewhat Mobility-reduced, and even if I had the state-of-the-art computer equipment and server that you have, a half-a-day off would come nowhere to allow me to just ride the "2" subway train to East 241st Street and ride the bus to New Rochelle. You can do it and note the facts. And you can return either by bus and subway or by the New Haven Division Metro North.
Yes Dave -- whatever looks best to complete that detail --that's all .....
Thanks. OK to correct for all three balls the same?
Hello Dave
NO -- I emailed-wrote to you last night that you could leave the Clock with the EL pictures you posted (from the one I emailed you) intact on the forum. Its an interesting nostalgia shot of what is now all gone. So leave them as they are.
Regarding the further improvenent in 187 on Westchester, leaving both on the thread lets each reader judge individuazlly.
The server does not let me get that far, "Page not available" All three.
Do you want me to delete all my "clock" postings?
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