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Posted by selector on Friday, October 6, 2017 10:45 AM

SPer

why did Santa Fe loves diesel-electric locomotives and hated steam locomotives

 

Why is the moon purple?  If I ask the question, the listener is forced to either answer as if the underlying premise is correct (ie, the moon IS purple), or to reject it and to say the question is unanswerable. It happens to be that the question I posed is unanswerable.  It happens that your question is also unanswerable because I must reject your premise prima facie.

Perhaps you would be good enough to point to a credible source, other than your assertion, that supports your premise.  From there we might be able to engage in something approximating a discussion.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, October 6, 2017 10:19 AM

Santa Fe's relatively early dieselization was in part a function of the territory it served.  Santa Fe was able to get so many FT's during wartime because they were better suited for operations in the Arizona desert.

Why does the OP keep beating this dead horse? Confused

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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:02 PM

Deggesty

What did the Santa Fe have against steam locomotives? Steam engines required a lot of water--and alkaline water is not good for boilers.

 

Deggesty

What did the Santa Fe have against steam locomotives? Steam engines required a lot of water--and alkaline water is not good for boilers.

 

And of course, there's no coal where the Santa Fe ran, or in most places where they ran, so they burned oil as soon as it was practical.

But if you're going to use oil as a fuel, it makes sense to use it in the most efficient way possible, so it's back to diesels again.

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:18 PM

What did the Santa Fe have against steam locomotives? Steam engines required a lot of water--and alkaline water is not good for boilers.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:15 PM

I wouldn't say Santa Fe hated steam locomotives, far from it.  Look how many were donated to various communitys along the way.  That would indicate to me they were quite proud of them.

However, sheer practicality had to win out in the end, so steam had to go.

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Love/Hate Relationship
Posted by SPer on Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:58 PM

why did Santa Fe loves diesel-electric locomotives and hated steam locomotives

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