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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:54 PM

Hello Leon back again after abit of a read Thumbs Up [tup] extra big draft of keith's if you don't mind Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric-Let me just say that that was a super fine pictrue of the frozen north you dug out for Tom Thumbs Up [tup] reminds me of here some days in winter.Grteat shots of the transfer table as well.Nice to see such a big one in use and under cover at that Thumbs Up [tup]

I see Shane was in twice and has graciously accepted teh grudge match number three's reporting duties.Boris and Kopperkettle have both said they will ride shot gun for you and defend your honour.Leon's got the old rolls Royce armoured car up and ready for actionas well. 

Pete-So you have had some photobucket issues as well.However the shots of the mini live steam came through quite nicely,love the bright colours on those locmotives.

Fergie-Nice to see you ashore again,hopefully teh Ta do list will; not take up your entire six weeks off.Or they may if Lisa noticed the credit card bill from your last few steam aquisitions.

Nick-Fab pictures of the little ones. I suppose enjoy them while they are small ,eventually they get odd friends and more exopebsive tastes.I'd like to know who my doppleganger stand in was. I'm assuming it was one of Vito's boyz trying to muscle in on the bars action,we will all need to be vigilante.

Tom-Great recent info on the TRE rdc's and their rebuilds and the C&NW stats Thumbs Up [tup] I'm glad to see that you are getting some daylight support.I shall attempt to give you as much as possible myself [tu[]Great shots and "edu-ma-cational" from your latest outing with Pete.Good to see that you enjoyed the ole pub with the GG as well Thumbs Up [tup]Seems like everything is shipshpae with your steam and caboose collection as well.

Rob

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:00 PM

<from ExpoRail - personal foto>

 

G'day Gents!

This is a SPECIAL round of Acknowledgments directed to our Manager - Rob <trolleyboy> who for whatever the reason took a looooooong hiatus <that means absence!> from the bar ‘n did so without forewarning. Soooooooo, there's a HUGE <tweeting> to be resolved - but that's for later. <uh oh> Right now, I'm sure the crew is relieved to have you back at the bar. Bow [bow]

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Wednesday - September 24th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 24 ‘n 25 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 5:28 PM ‘n 5:54 PM <6:28 PM ‘n 6:54 PM EDT>: Simply put, welcome Sign - Welcome [#welcome] back. While you may feel there's life in the old girl yet . . . we've had some difficult times, especially during daylite.

It's still "You Post, I Post" insofar as my contributions are concerned - back to backs are out <except for unusual ‘n special circumstances>.

Our Irregular customer base has been added to by Dan <DL-UK> who was "in" The Legion of the Lost. Thought perhaps you may have seen him there! <grin>

So, once Pete departs for the UK - next week - it looks like only Shane ‘n Moi will be holding things together at daylite during weekdays.

Conflicting signals - figured the last week of September was this week <full week>. Anyway - do what you can, when you can ‘n it surely will help.

That Keiths is on me . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

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Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:38 PM

Good evening again Leon. I see that you are keeping the tankard's full for eveyone which is good.Thumbs Up [tup] Another Keith's for 'em as well please.I picked up a new camera and was testing it out the other day ) more settings and gizmo's than our other one ) so here are the first few test shots that I picked off with it the other day (sunday last)

A dead GP9 in Brantford yard.It quit on the yard crew three weeks ago and here it's been left.Oil cooler problem hence why the oiler coolers access door is open.

VIA P42 911 the cursed one ( it's had three repairable accidents, including two colitions and one derailment already in it's career ) 

String actually two strings of Ballast cars in the CN's Brantford yard ( in town for track work )

Rob

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Posted by Gunneral on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:07 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please.Yeah!! [yeah]

Rob. It`s great to see you back with us once again mate, you`ve been sorely missed here. Sorry to hear about your internet hassles`. Nice set of shots with the test run with your new camera.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3. Some interesting info on the N&W RR Crewe, VA, passenger train schedules.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric. Will most surely visit an IKEA store the next time we`re in Aussie.Dinner [dinner] That was a real nice snowy photo you posted for Tom. Interesting plan and pix of the loco facility in the old country, and the loco as well.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick. Very sorry about the name error mate, must be because my wife`s name is Lily as well, anyway,a couple of nice pix of Hannah.Approve [^] The carmine/cream livery was used for the Tyneside EMU rolling stock for quite a while, can`t remember the exact dates though, I do remember that they painted a lot of the Gresley teak coaches in that livery, which was a great travesty, until they were replaced by the Mk1 stock around 1951.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. I`m sure that I at least saw a SR Merchant Navy Class and an LMS Royal Scot in Newcastle during that loco trials period in my distant memory.Confused [%-)] A very nice selection of the Rhyl Miniture Rly locos` from Alan, please give him my thanks.Approve [^] Only a week to go now for your trip back to the old country.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie. Good to see you in again.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom. "Cheers" was a great show BITD with the original cast of Coach, Ted Danson and Shelley Long, used to have a great belly laugh at some of the comedy.Laugh [(-D] Nice repost of the Fallen Flags #19 on the C&NW RR info with the Drumheads. A very nice selection of pix of Pete`s visit with you and the great shots of your Can Am RR equipment including it`s proud owner/operator.Bow [bow]Sad [:(] You would have loved a visit here downunder, it`s a totally different place to the Northern hemisphere with the big difference in flora and fauna and the native animal population, and Xmas being in the summer is a bit strange at first.Sad [:(]Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

See ya, Allan

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Posted by EricX2000 on Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:03 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, a #2, please! Yes, and a cold Tui!

A busy day at the office and a busy rest of the day when I got home. 106˚F today. Only 104 tomorrow.

Tom –  I think we will manage to handle October one way or the other!Smile [:)] I’ll ask the brunette to help! That doesn’t mean I need any deck chair aboard the Titanic though. Wink [;)]

Youe are right, the electric overhead wires are very important for electric locomotives! Very!Yeah!! [yeah]

Southwest Airlines = terminal 4 at Sky Harbor Airport!Oops [oops] Flying American was a way to add some more frequent flyer miles! Smile [:)]

Speak a phrase and get it translated? Hmmm. I don’t know. If you are going to Sweden you wouldn’t have any problems at all not speaking Swedish. 99% of people speak both English and Swedish. It’s mandatory to learn English in school.Smile [:)]

Sackville, New Brunswick? A lot of water coming in during the tide, I guess.Wow!! [wow]

Would be interesting to see that high tech listening device! 500 ft?Mischief [:-,]

More Swedish! Not quite right this time, but 100% understandable! Not bad.Smile [:)]

Nice photos.Thumbs Up [tup] I like those signs they have at MoT. Very informative! I noticed that the Aerotrain locomotive is still in the same spot as in last May!

Always  interesting to look at the Can-Am Railway! Especially when they have steam locomotives running!Yeah!! [yeah]

CM3 –  The sleepers in the background was bought or leased from Germany for a few years and used in the trains going north from Stockholm across the Arctic Circle and to Narvik, Norway. As far as I know those cars are now back in Germany.

Thanks for the round!Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie –  You added 5 pounds? To much to eat and too little to do!Oops [oops] That is what a captain is entitled to on his ship! You’ll probably lose it during the next 6 weeks!Mischief [:-,]

Pete –  I am sure the people at Kirkwood station has some kind of warning/info when an Amtrak train is approaching. Most likely a monitor hooked up to a some kind of an UP network.

Locomotive #279 is a remote (radio) controlled locomotive, class Ue. In the second half of the 80’s they rebuilt old class Ub and installed equipment for remote control. They were still going to call them class Ub but I protested very sharply and said they should be class Ue since they were different. And so they did. I was very much involved in that process and wrote the manual for that class. So, in a way, I feel like class Ue locomotives are “my” locomotives.Smile [:)]

Nice photos from Rhyl Miniature Railway! That is what I call a model railway!Yeah!! [yeah] Many thanks to Alan!Thumbs Up [tup]

Rob –  Nice to see you back at the bar!Smile [:)] Sorry you had to waste your bonus check paying food and drinks, thank you, but at least you don’t have to spend your money on somethinmg you don’t need!Mischief [:-,]

They actually have two transfer tables complete with electric overhead wire. I can’t even count how many times I have been taking locomotives in and out of that building.Smile [:)]

Thanks for the photos.Thumbs Up [tup] A dead GP9, I guess they will fix it some time in the future! It seems like VIA P42 911 is a not so lucky locomotive.

Allan –  Hey, I think you misunderstood that photo.Shock [:O] A snowy photo can’t be nice! No way. It looks so cold so I am freezing when I look at it. It was 3 degrees below zero (F) when it was taken according to the photographer.


Somewhere in Canada!

 

Round for the house!

Eric. 

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"Our" Place IV - <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults 'n Classic Trains
Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:23 AM

 

<The Chaleur at Gaspé, Québec, Canada - personal foto>

 

G'day Gents!

Thursday ‘round here means it's the day BEFORE week's end! Bow [bow] A fine way to begin this day is to join us at the bar for a steaming hot mugga Joe, some pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n an order for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast right off our Menu Board! Yeah!! [yeah]

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Comments from the Proprietor

For planning purposes - IF we survive the month of October - our Annual Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match with The Second Class Saloon goons will take place on November 6th thru 8th <Thurs thru Fri> with the opening set at "Our" Place.

If you wish to participate - send me an Email ‘n I'll assign you to a team. We'll try to put forth two teams of two - with an alternate if interest permits. Shane has accepted the assignment of Ace Reporter. Again - please let me know by Email. Thanx . . .

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PLANNED ABSENCES:

Bar Chandler Pete will be gone for the month of October . . .

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It's "You Post, I Post" at the Bar by the Ballast! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Wednesday - September 24th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 25 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:38 PM <9:38 PM EDT>: Appreciate the fotos - have you seen any VIA Rail locos with their new face-lift Question [?] New camera appears to be agreeable to the owner. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] What make is it Question [?]

Appreciate the visit, fotos ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

 

 

Page 25 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:07 PM <4:07 PM Thursday NZ time>: When one thinks of the globe we all share, it's a bit mind boggling to realize how many differences there are from place to place. As you mentioned, the plant ‘n animal life differs vastly as one travels to the distant locales on this planet. The one constant - the gals always seem to be terrific! <pant> <pant> Oh well, I can dream, can't I Question [?]

Thanx for your < I3 > Post, good cheer ‘n ROUND! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Thursday - September 25th:

Page 25 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:03 AM <11:03 PM Wednesday Sandbox time>: Another super-fine < I3> contribution from our Sandman! Bow [bow]

The Captain of a ship NEVER rests - nor has much time to gain weight. So you see, Fergie was NOT in command during his last voyage. <grin> He probably spent far too much time trying to push himself away from the table. <uh oh>

Many of the locos ‘n rolling stock had been moved at StL MoT since Rendzvous III - but the AeroTrain was in the same spot. It had been moved from where Pete ‘n I viewed it in Dec 2007 though . . . which was different from where it was at Rendezvous II. Hmmmmm. Wonder what that's all about Question [?] Good eye! Thumbs Up [tup]

Här är anknyta till min översättare:

http://www.stars21.com/translator/swedish_to_english.html

Call me strange <weird is okay too> but when I'm in a land not my own, I really try to speak their language. It's not only a challenge, but makes the local people feel that you have a degree of respect for them. Just the way I like to be. I've always been impressed with those who have mastered several tongues . . . a talent, fer sure, fer sure.

BUT I'm all for ONE language to bind a nation together. I can't think of anything more inclusive to a nation than a common-tongue. Babel comes to mind . . . <uh oh>

I'll remember - Terminal 4 - the "brunette" terminal! Wow!! [wow] 

Appreciate your visit, chat ‘n mystery foto! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:27 AM
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Our streak of good weather is "supposed" to come to an end later today as there are 2 storms making up off the east coast. What folks forget is that there are mountains between here and there which really affect the weather - so we shall see what happens.  Gas still at $3.99. The Attorney General of WV is supposed to be visiting later today to "'splain" why things are the way they are.

Pete - Excellent shots of the Rhyl miniature. I had a couple of friends up home who did a lot with live steam - fascinating. All I know is if I went to Rhyl, they'd never get me out of the shop area.

Rob - Good morning. Your remarks remind me of the old Bob Dylan line, "After 20 years of working they put you on the day shift." I practiced the retail arts in a previous life and understand about that sort of thing. We did wholesale, retail and manufacturing with outlets in several states with different tax structures, etc. I can still do math in my head faster than with a calculator. The run-up to Christmas was dreadful and the week between Christmas and New Years was not really a whole lot better. Ate many a sandwich on the loading dock between trucks, which reminds me of a story.

I got stopped once by one of New Hampshire's finest while driving one of our company trucks. Purpose of this was to check paperwork. He asked me what I was carrying and I said, "Glow in the dark monster heads." He went !@#$ nuts and it was game on after that as he REALLY wanted to look at everything. I actually was carrying what I said and the manifest and cargo proved it. My load was many cases of Halloween monster model kits.

I liked the modified GP9 shot - it actually looks good in that paint which is more than I can say for many other types. Also appreciated the ballast cars - thy look like what Amtrak uses; bright orange. Kind of interesting how certain locomotives get "reputations."

Incidentally, you must understand that I'm not the reporter. Nobody has ever seen the reporter (except me and the critters and they have been sworn to silence - I don't worry about Boris because he does what the Rice Krispies tell him to) - I am paid handsomely to be a discreet messenger. The idea of a Rolls Royce armored car has, however, piqued his interest along with the notion of a bulletproof sedan chair.

Allan was in with comments. I'm working up a little more N&W information,

Eric - I thought of you when I saw OSP's snowplow photo - it won't be long now. Only 104? Jeez - break out the salamanders and the storm blankets. A sleeper run to Narvik? I would like to have ridden that one - I'll bet they didn't freeze up like our sleeper did once on the Lake Shore coming out of Chicago; even I thought it was a little brisk (lol). SKF roller bearings - how come I'm not surprised.

OSP - Email rec'd. See my remarks above about the snowplow. Re 35mm cameras, CNN (I think it was them) ran a piece on Kodachrome film a couple of days ago - very limited supply now and Kodak may not make any more. That stuff lasts forever and the color saturation is amazing.  As always, convenience and lower quality rules the marketplace. 

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Posted by Fergmiester on Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:40 AM

Hello Captain Tom and Crew

Coffee and the Mariner's Special with a heaping handful of Beans

 trolleyboy wrote:

Fergie-Nice to see you ashore again,hopefully teh Ta do list will; not take up your entire six weeks off.Or they may if Lisa noticed the credit card bill from your last few steam aquisitions.

Not a word has been said...Kisses [:X] yet! However we have a trip to Toronto in two weeks and I plan on seeing a couple of LHS's so I best be on my best behaviour. I also have the new TLT CNR 4-8-4 on backorder along with three Tsunami'sWhistling [:-^]

It's a darn good thing my transfer from the Hudson includes an assignment as Captain as I'll need a few extra Peso's. Though nothing is cast in stone yet depending on other promotions of senior people to other regions etc etc. 

Eric: Yes as it was stated by Tom no Captain time this trip as I was "bumped" by a senior officer... I wasn't too pleased about it either but this is what happens when your Fleet gets smaller due to transfer and cuts! The former CCG/DFO (now one organization) had a combined number of 27 large fleet vessels prior to 93'. Our number is now 6. So you can well imagine the impact the reduction has had on our career aspirations but more importantly the service delivery to the public.

Shane: The politicains can spew all they want, the bottom line is the price is what it is to get the most out of us! Good story on the Cop! Wish I had been there for that one. That would be a keeper for one of those police shows!

Well what can I say I'm home but in a haze. Just plane exhausted and sore all over. Probably the change in beds and the fact one doesn't realizre the stresses three days of storms puts the body under.

Well I added pics of my Arctic Travels to my webshots account and these can be found on this link.

http://travel.webshots.com/album/136660433pMRiwj?start=120

Sorry can't get the direct link to function. I think it's a Firefox issueGrumpy Grumpy [|(]

As to projects at sea... Well I started a Bars-Mills kit, which now requires painting and detailing. It is one of the Half building kits that sit along walls to save space. The Shipyard Brewery. Would have liked to have made it a working model but the amount of piping required to make it happen was prohibitiveSad Sad [:(]

Anyway it's sunny so I think I'll be heading to the garden and start the Ta-Do list. Rain this weekend and Rain=MR'ngBig Smile Big Smile [:D]

Later All

Fergie

 

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959

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"Our" Place IV - <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults 'n Classic Trains
Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:05 AM

G'day Gents!

Pleased to see that Skipper Fergie has made it back to the bar for the 2nd successive day. In spite of him being so far behind the curve - it's always a pleasure having our Resident Canadian Maritime Mariner on board! Bow [bow]

Perhaps an easier way for you to seek out info related to YOU is to use the "find on this page" feature on your browser for each Page you've missed at the bar - just type in "Fergie" . . . at least you'll pick up on comments directed to YOU.

A congrats is in order for your promotion - but I'm not sure how your outfit goes about these things. In the military, you either are or aren't - but with civilians, who KNOWS!? <grin> But, Skipper befits you - so that's what we'll call ya! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Lisa WILL find out - best to just fess-up ‘n pay the fiddler! <yikes>

Also noted that Shane began our morning at the Tavern by the Tracks - seems like "normal" when he does so. This has been a most crazy month with the absences - whether planned or not, they've taken a toll at the bar . . .

More specifics in my next round of Acknowledgments . . .

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Now that I've been sprung loose . . . Here's another installment of the exploits of The Proprietor ‘n The Bar Chandler from last week's get together . . . . Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup] 

  

(1) Northern Pacific caboose #1082 at StL MoT <Kirkwood>

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(3) Chicago Transit Authority <CTA> #44 rapid transit car at StL MoT <Kirkwood>

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(5) St. Louis Waterworks Railway #10 interurban car at StL MoT <Kirkwood>

 

  

(6) That's our Bar Chandler at the bar in Mike Duffy's Pub

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Later!

Tom  Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by pwolfe on Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:38 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTHThumbs Up [tup] paid for by Rob.Approve [^]

TOM That is an attractive looking Canadian snowplow in the photoApprove [^].

I hope Nick can pick up on that sign at the MOT in your photo,Yeah!! [yeah] I had a look at the Ffestiniog Railway web-site and they were running in the 1840s perhaps it was that steam was introduced on narrow gauge lines in 1862.

Yes I think a really good photo with a 35mm camera can't be beat, but I think with a digital being able to see the image straight away and retake the photo and delete the old image is a massive bonusApprove [^]. It is a real disappointment when getting the film back from developing and a shot you are looking forward to is spoiled in some way, like being blurredBanged Head [banghead]. I think the next camera I get will be a digital and I shall have to hope my luck changes with themSmile [:)].

Yes the Lewis & Clarke is a good pubApprove [^] and St Charles is a nice place to visitYeah!! [yeah]. I dare say the town is busy at the moment with travelers on the Katy Trail.

It sounds Call of Trains is a good albumBow [bow]; the British reviewer of the book was quite excited about it.

Glad you enjoyed the miniature engines from RhylThumbs Up [tup], I think I have got too many photos in my Photobucket albumSigh [sigh].

Many thanks for the next photos from our trip to the MOTThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] The life of the conductor was certainly made a lot better when the 1954 Northern Pacific caboose was rebuilt in 1968. I think Interurban car # 10 was the one we traveled on at Rendezvous IIIApprove [^]. I wonder what was on the TV at Duffy's that has got my attention.Question [?]

ROB Great to see you in the barApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Congratulations on your 20 years serviceBow [bow]Thumbs Up [tup].

 Many thanks for the ale and food for the rest of the weekApprove [^]. Do you realize how much 10% of my bar tab isQuestion [?]Shock [:O]Smile [:)].

Glad you liked the photos of the engines on the RMRThumbs Up [tup]. The puter does not want to ‘view all' now on my photobucket,Banged Head [banghead] but at least I was able to load the Rhyl photosThumbs Up [tup].

Is it a new digital camera you have gotQuestion [?], it is taking good photos.Thumbs Up [tup] That looks an interesting signal to the right of the Via Rail P42. I suppose it will be smaller locomotives that will work those ballast cars for the track work.

ALLAN I guess the air-smoothed casing on the Merchant Navy of the Southern Railway must have caused quite a stir when it first appeared in Newcastle in the Locomotive ExchangesYeah!! [yeah]. If I recall correctly the rebuilt Royal Scots in the exchanges were included in the larger passenger types.

I did not know Alan had gone to the Gala at the Rhyl Miniature Railway until he e-mailed me the photos so it was a pleasant surpriseApprove [^]. It is good that all of the 6 locomotives of that type are still around today.Thumbs Up [tup]

The Toon v Spurs Carling cup match was live on TV here yesterday, I was looking forward to the gameThumbs Up [tup] but both teams are struggling at the presentSad [:(]. The commentator summed it up at the start of the second half when he said "For those who have just come in and missed the first half   congratulations"Shock [:O]. Spurs won 2-1 in front of the lowest Newcastle crowd for many yearsThumbs Down [tdn].

ERIC I don't think the volunteers hat Jeff City have a device like the ones at Kirkwood it would be very handy though.Yeah!! [yeah]

Thanks for the information on class Ue # 279Thumbs Up [tup]. Writing a manual for the modified locomotives must have taken a lot of talentBow [bow]. Were all the Ubs concerted to remote controlled locomotives and are they still running todayQuestion [?].

 Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]. I have fond memories of the RMRYeah!! [yeah] I traveled on it when I was a kidApprove [^], a few years a go nowWhistling [:-^].  We should be passing by the railway as part of the line around the boating lake it runs on is along side the BR North Wales Coast line which we are due to travel on

That is an interesting spring arrangement on the 6-wheeled bogie in your photoThumbs Up [tup].

CM3 Yes I really enjoyed Alan's photos from Rhyl as well, I will have to find out if the overhaul the locomotives in house or if they send them away although it says in the web site there is a dedicated workshop for the maintenance of the engines. It is a bit lenghty the web site, but I found it an interesting read about the history of the railwayThumbs Up [tup].

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~stownsen/

Thanks for sharing your encounter with the New Hampshire's finest while carrying that loadThumbs Up [tup].

Many thanks for being the messenger for the upcoming Darts ContestApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup], a job not many would take on despite the very high danger money involvedShock [:O]Bow [bow]  

FERGIE Congratulations on your promotion to CaptainBow [bow]Thumbs Up [tup]. It was sad to read of the great reduction of the number of vessels in your service since 1993.Thumbs Down [tdn]

I will have a look at the Artic photos.Thumbs Up [tup]

Well RUTH another of Rob's Bathams pleaseThumbs Up [tup] and the Fish ‘N' ChipsDinner [dinner] later.

Pete.

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Posted by Fergmiester on Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:35 PM

Good Evening Captain Tom and Crew

An evening Dram for all who wish to imbibe!

Please Note: This is not a promotionSad [:(] this is an appointmentConfused [%-)] Promos in my organization are very slow moving and slower forth comin, which results in very slow progression through the ranks. So when vacancies occur they fill the holes on a rotational basis until the next round of competitions occur, which by the way has averaged once every 7 years since I graduated some 24 years ago. Kinda like the Vulcan mating ritual... Frustrating but that's our reality.A true case of where "one bad day can mean seven years of bad luck". Unlike the services we do not get the boot if we don't advance up the ranks.  Are we confused yet??? Saying all this not everyone is considered for the position of Captain. So even if it's an assignment I'm still greatful for  getting the chance as the Matthew is truly a gem and if all goes well I'll be up on the Labrador Coast next summer.

Anyway guys I see "Kyle" has gone to a TS and headed my way for the weekend.

I'd better stock up on provisions tomorrow.

Later All

Fergie 

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:41 PM

Evening all-quick `bookmark whilst I catch up

Leon-beer for all please-apologies for absense yesterday-been looking forward to Can-Am steam special pix but fate intervened-in short,got careless and fell off the cottage roof-nothing broken but lots of exciting grazes and general `been hit with a big stick `feelings-went to bed early to feel quiety miserable on my own-you know how it is

Back in a bit

Chef [C=:-)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:46 PM

<Skyline dome car #8503 at Montreal's Central Station - personal foto>

 

G'day Gents!

While working on the 'morrow's Acknowledgments, thought I'd make mention of visits by Pete - Fergie 'n Nick this afternoon . . .

SPECIAL RECOGNTION to Nick who is doing it RIGHT! Bow [bow] My THANX for dropping off a brief few lines to keep us going, then going to work on your compilation. THAT's THE WAY TO DI IT! Yeah!! [yeah] Thumbs Up [tup]

Fell off the roof! <yikes> That hurts just to think about it. <triple yikes>

I see Skipper Fergie has clarified the point . . . I suppose it makes sense in a civilian-kinda-way. <grin>

Here's one more from my trip aboard the Chaleur this past spring . . .

Lounge area of the Skyline dome

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Reminder: If we are to have teams for the 3rd Annual Dart's Challenge 'n Grudge Match - then those interested in participating need to send me an Email . . . 

See ya in the 'morrow!

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:03 PM

Well here we are again-Leon-be so good dear boy.....

Must confess,am still a little under strength( by d*mn,that HURT--) lots to respond too-for example-earliest narrow gauge steam-would agree with PETE on that one-although earliest passenger carrying would be either the Surrey Iron rly or the Oystermouth tramway (Google that one and see what you find Approve [^]-sail powered passenger trains-used to live across the road from the old Oystermouth station-was recently demolished after years as a `bus terminus......most of the old line is now a walkway-includes the former L.N.W.R line into Swansea Victoria stn-now the leisure centre......By a Coincidence,grew up near the trackbed of the Surrey Iron Rly-several of the old earthworks are still there-if you know what to look for-there is still one complete embankment from just north of Coulsdon sth stn ,through the grounds of Cane hill hospital (where David Bowie`s brother was `kept` for many years ) and swings round to meet the London to Brighton line before taking off towards Mitcham via Hackbridge....but I am prolly the only person who actually cares about this-One of the first rail lines ANYWHERE.......Hmmm-I sense a note of self pity here-cant be doing with it-apologies-time for bed

Right-Apologies to all-been wandering-have spent the evening trying to persuade the rest of the band to play `user friendly` stuff for a wedding gig on saturday-with limited success  -to my mind,we are being paid $500 to make their party swing-a little help here would be great....

Have no doubt they will come through on the night,but can do without the grief............

Will get back to you all with proper commentary soon....-be lucky,

Chef [C=:-)] 

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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:03 PM

Good evening Leon a cold Keith's and some haddock and chips if theer are any left thnaks.Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom-A couple of fine rounds of phoot's from yourlatest adventures with the iterm GG.Interesting seeing that preserved Chicago "l" car. as you know we have one of those critters at our museum as well,not that we run it much but it's a conversation starter at any rate.

The new camera is a digital. I went with my old satnd by.I've had great success over the years with Minolta's when I was shooting slide and print 35mm with a standard 35mm SLR.I still have my last one a slightly aged X570 which I still troop out for the odd film shot.This new one is a Minolta digital their Dimage Z6. Good camera heavy bugger though.It's an older one the lines been out for probably four years now but I got a good pice for it it wasn't brand new but it hardly had any use on it by the looks of it.

I see that you ahd asked a coupel weeks back how long you would need to set aside if we do the Algoma thing.I'd say not less than four days for travel time etc.We could do it in three but it would feel rushed.

Fergie-I think Tom's right confessWhistling [:-^] Of coarse if Lisa is like my wife she shruggs it off.I could be spending the money on worse things.Congrats on the appointment,your promotion structure sounds about as straight forward as the system my company uses.Likely the powers at be went to the same seminars.If ther si time drop me an email when your headed this way perhaps Heather and I can meet up with you guys.

Shane-I apologize I  had forgotten that you were the roving reporters chief message passer.If he's interested the Mentor Fusiliers just recieved an entire platoon of the RR armoured cars.They still have their 1914 build date plates on them and all came with several Lewis guns !The fusiliers Colonel said that you guys can have the best one of the bunch Thumbs Up [tup]

I have to check the numbers series but those CN ballast cars seem to be the old 70 ton cars orange if definatly similar to the Amtrak,it's supposed to be the same orange as CN uses on the locomotives but you know paint and how consistant pigments ever are.

Interesting story about the Halloween masks. I aggree with you completly September and October are the worst two months in retail as far as there being so little time for so much to do.We get luckey up hear boxing week sales are not what they are in the US so the week after Christmas isn't too bad other than the returns.Sigh [sigh]Banged Head [banghead]

Pete-Yes the new camera is a digital.It's amazing how little one see's now of the old 35mm stuff.I actually prefer the film cameras but as Shane mentioned they are slowly ( or not so slowly ) becomming a dying breed.

Usually CN pulls the ballast and other work trains rail trains etc with one or two GP38-2's.Though I have seen them use two GP9'a splicing a hump slug so it's a whatever runs sort of thing once in a while.

Those are the dwarf yard signals that you see of coarse above the unit is the mainline signals at the end of the station plateform as ther mainline through Brantford and on the corridor is double tracked.

Eric-Nice mystery photo of a CPR heavy weight cars truck.CN will likely fix that GP as long as it's not too major a repair.They are starting to not fix major failures now on the GP9's.Seems the president has it in his head that everything can and should be done with heavy six axle power.

Nick-Good god man be carefull,you are not some sort of superman no matter what Boris tells you.hopefully nothing terribly important was shaken loose by your plunge from the roof.

Allan-It's good to be back actually,didn't seem normal when I wasn't in daily.I have to say that Heather and I love Ikea. there isn't one here in Brantford but the Burlington Ontario stores only a 20 minute drive away.many a piece of furnature in this house is from theer.Good solid stuff Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by EricX2000 on Friday, September 26, 2008 2:23 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Hi Leon, no it's too late. Just a cold Keith's please!

My work week is over! Feels good. 13 more days to work!

Tom –  Trying to push yourself away from the table must be rough. I feel sorry for Fergie!Shock [:O]

Interesting to learn they are moving stuff around at MoT.Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanks for the link to the translation site!Thumbs Up [tup] I tried a few common phrases and it worked pretty good. But the Swedish sentence you have in your post is a little bit off. It should be:
Här är anknytningen till min översättare.
“Översättare” is really a living person who is translating whatever, not a computer or machine. But that is okay. Wink [;)]

I am all with you, one language to bind a nation together!!My 2 cents [2c] That is what it should be! In my opinion there are too much of Spanish signs, etc. Where are the Swedish ones?Evil [}:)]

Terminal 4 is the brunette terminal, correct. Smile [:)]

The mystery photo is not a big mystery. It’s a truck under a private business car where I had breakfast and dinner during our tour in Canada 1993 with the X2000. As Shane mentioned, it has SKF roller bearings. See photo below.

Nice photos from the Museum of Transportation! It’s almost like seeing old friends!Smile [:)] But what happened to Pete’s black bag? I can’t see it. Oops [oops]

CM3 –  I don’t know if I ever hauled any dark monster heads while I was working as a truck driver. But I remember one time I had a load of diapers from Waco, TX, to Phoenix. Smile [:)]

I also saw that snowplow photo. Not for me, not for me.Whistling [:-^]

I am sorry, I was wrong about the temperature yesterday, it wasn’t 104˚F, it was 106˚F. Today it was cooler though, just 102˚F. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

You can still ride a sleeper from Stockholm to Narvik, but not the ones in my photo. I took a sleeper to Oslo, Norway many years ago. It was in the winter and when I woke up early in the morning I had a snow drift across the bed, about two inches thick. Grumpy [|(]

Fergie –  Congratulations on your promotion/assignment, Captain!!!Bow [bow]Captain [4:-)]

That’s quite a cut back, from 27 to 6 vessels in 15 years!Wow!! [wow] 

Pete –  To write the manual for class Ue wasn’t that hard. I could use a lot of stuff from the manual for class Ub. Almost all Ub’s were rebuilt to Ue. I think there are only a few (if any) left in service today.

A kid a few years ago? Hmmm. Yeah, right.Mischief [:-,] I am just 27! Or was, a few years ago!Wink [;)]

 

The first class Ue. Still marked Ub.  



Nick –  Falling off the roof?Wow!! [wow] You better stop doing that, it might be dangerous.Confused [%-)] I guess you were lucky you didn’t break anything! You better be careful and take it easy. In other words, get well!Yeah!! [yeah]

Rob –  I still have my old 35 mm film camera, but I haven’t used it for a long time. Saw something in the paper that Kodak may stop making more Kodachrome film soon. I always used Kodachrome 25 and 64. My slides from the 50’s still have the correct colors! Amazing.Smile [:)]

As I mentioned to Tom, the mystery photo shows a truck under a private business car where we had our meals during the Canada tour with the X2000. Very nice car inside.


The consist during our Canada Tour. The  two business cars  can be seen in front of the second F40.

 

Round for the house!

Eric 

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 26, 2008 7:24 AM

<The Chaleur at Gaspé, Québec, Canada - personal foto>

 

Friday's Grin

Lines To Make You Smile

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.

 

G'day Gents!

The final Friday of the month has arrived ‘n my, my how time doth fly! Wow!! [wow] There IS time to order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board ‘n sample a pastry or three from The Mentor Village Bakery case. Remember, our coffee is FREE for those who order! Thumbs Up [tup]

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For planning purposes - IF we survive the month of October - our Annual Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match with The Second Class Saloon goons will take place on November 6th thru 8th <Thurs thru Fri> with the opening set at "Our" Place.

If you wish to participate - send me an Email ‘n I'll assign you to a team. We'll try to put forth two teams of two - with an alternate if interest permits. Shane has accepted the assignment of Ace Reporter. Again - please let me know by Email. Thanx . . .

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It's "You Post, I Post" at the Bar by the Ballast! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Thursday - September 25th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 25 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:27 AM <10:27 AM EDT> All kinds of comments for the crew . . . no point in my expounding on ‘em other than to say we appreciate your efforts! Thumbs Up [tup]

I just LUV IT when our Attorney General ‘splains things to us, ‘specially when it comes to petrol pricing. Yeah, it helps soooooooo much to know, eh Question [?] <barf>

I read that piece about Kodak ‘n Kodachrome - only one processing place in the U.S. left for that film! That's shocking . . . will soon go the way of the typewriter <manual AND electric>. I stand by my comments - 35 mm was definitely better-er, but the advantages of digital certainly are there. Just a matter of what one is willing to give up. I detest that <censored> blur. I cannot recall even ONE 35 mm shot blown without my knowing I did it . . . meaning, when I got the film, none were blurry - none. Sure, I screwed up on this ‘n that - but slight motion on my part surely didn't ruin the fotos. <arrrrrggggghhhhh>

So, you're NOT the Ace Reporter. Okay, we can "go" with that . . . but Ace remains! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Anyway, appreciate the visit, ROUND ‘n quarters! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 25 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 8:40 AM <10:40 AM ADT>: Nice to see our Resident Canadian Maritime Mariner two days in succession at the bar! Wow!! [wow]

Nice conversational effort - I'm sure the guys who've been "talking" to you will appreciate it! Thumbs Up [tup]

I had no clue your organization has been reduced to simply a handful of large vessels. That's almost embarrassing, ehQuestion [?] You guys need some FRIENDS in Ottawa ‘n you need ‘em NOW! <geesh> Again, I had no idea. If you wish, I'll get Vito the Hit to contact his "people" north of the 49th to get things rollin' . . .

Shipyard Brewery sounds like something we'd like to see on our Wednesday Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! How's the progress with that tavern you've been working on Question [?]

Handful of beans Question [?]

 

 

Page 25 - Pete <pwofle> at 3:38 PM: "In" with an afternoon inclusive Post, replete with plenty of conversation for the participants at our bar. Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

I believe you were looking at the TV when I took that shot because I asked you NOT to pose! <grin> 

You may not realize it, but even with remaining logged on - your cyber name does NOT appear at the bottom of the main Page until you are actually visiting the Forums. It is then when your cyber handle shows up, thereby giving "away" your anonymity! <uh oh> That does help to drive me NUTS! But, I've been told I'm already there . . . <yikes>

Regarding any discrepancies found, irrespective of the source, perhaps you'll consider notifying the party who may be in error than trying to resolve it here. I've sent my share of notices to Wikipedia regarding things I KNOW to be in error ‘n I believe Eric has as well. A letter to the StL MoT wouldn't hurt IF you are sure of your facts ‘n of course can substantiate it. Just a thought . . .

Time's approaching ‘n I hope you're prepared for your visit to your homeland. Get your flu shot yet Question [?] Not something to take lightly, Mate . . . especially now that you're closer to 60 than 50! <grin>

Then again, given the strength of that Brit-brew you like, perhaps those flu-bugs couldn't survive in such a concoction! <yikes>

Thanx for the visit, good cheer ‘n chat! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

 

 

Page 25 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 5:35 PM <7:35 PM ADT>: A rare 2nd appearance in the same day from our Resident Canadian Maritime Mariner! [wow]  Clarification received ‘n understood, Sir! Bow [bow] We'll still call you Skipper Fergie ‘n you'll be splicing the mainbrace a few times as a result! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Yes, it does appear as if Nova Scotia may just be in-line for another blast of weather . . . batten ‘em down! <arrrrggggghhhhh>

Drams all ‘round appreciated! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 25 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 5:41 PM ‘n 7:03 PM <11:41 PM ‘n 1:03 AM Friday GMT>: No need for an apology - really don't expect anyone to keep at this thing on a daily basis - aside from the Proprietor <of course>. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] On a more serious note, surely hope that accident of yours doesn't give you long lasting adversity. Thumbs Down [tdn]

I've had a few nites lately where I've been awake every hour on the hour throughout the supposed sleeping period. Kinda like dreaming I've been awake all night! <yikes> Makes for a gumpy day . . . not to mention dragging my sorry caboose from here to there . . . <groan>

Appreciate the libation while you are preparing the evening's creation! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Back with your Part Duex: Again understand the frustration of trying to get a group on the same Page . . . it's perhaps the single-most challenging challenge a guy at the helm can have. But when it all comes together, it's all sooooooo special, ehQuestion [?] Can't say it's worth it - sometimes the <censored> frustration is enough to drive a sober man to drink! <clink>

Thanx for keeping us in mind ‘n sharing what semblance of good cheer you have on a most difficult evening at your digs. Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 25 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:03 PM <12:03 AM Friday EDT>: A late-niter from our Resident Ontario Connection to keep Leon ‘n Boris awake! Thumbs Up [tup]

Ahhhhh, digital cameras. Sounds as if you're pleased with your acquisition - which of course is better than not. <grin> I bought my Sony digital about 5 years ago ‘n really haven't been enamored with it. The problem is ME - but I've forced myself to learn its use, in spite of my failings. Sure, the majority of my fotos seem to come out fine - but when stacked up against 35 mm shots, I can see the difference. It's just a matter of accepting less for convenience ‘n of course saving on the development of fotos. Also bought Carol a Sony when we made our Alaska trip - hers is much more "friendly" in terms of the anti-motion feature - but far too much to "think" about . . . Speaking of "thinking," I fail to do so when it comes time for me to go off on a foto spree - should use hers. <groan> These things are worse than the early VCRs . . . <grin> Anyway, good luck with your foto ops! Thumbs Up [tup]

Four days for the Algoma Central trip is pretty much what I figured - plus one more day for me for arrival ‘n a visit to the St. George Arms pub! <grin> That's  venture I'd have to work on insofar as time away is concerned - probably better when the bride is visiting her mother . . . Juneau would be in the kennel 'n I'd be free. <grin> Something to think about . . .

Yes, I recall the Chicago transit car from Rendezvous I at Halton County . . .

A fine < I3 > Post for the crew . . . appears as if you've done quite a bit to catch up! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Friday - September 25th:

Page 25 - Eric <EricX2000> at 2:23 AM <12:23 AM Sandbox time>: Our Sandman is back to his nocturnal ways, but at least he hasn't forgotten us. Bow [bow] Between you ‘n Rob, there's no rest for the weary <Moi> when it comes to preparing these <censored> daily Acknowledgments . . . <grrrrrrr>

Jaja, jag försökte! <grin>

Not to worry, the Black Bag was ‘round Pete's neck the whole time . . .

Really impressed with the way you identify things in fotos . . . that shot of your Canada trip is most revealing. Thanx! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Don't get me started on the unwillingness of Congress to adopt an OH-FISH-UL language. This has been plaguing the U.S. for decades . . . Yeah, where's the German too Question [?] In case some haven't noticed, this is a melting pot nation - not just for those from this hemisphere. <barf>

Snow across the bed Question [?] I think there's an explanation missing on that one! <yikes>

Nice clarity with that Ue . . . a functional MoSheen. Thumbs Up [tup]

Finally, <chomp> <chomp> <burp> What's thatQuestion [?] The sound of the Cardinals feasting on Snake! <tee hee> Sent back to Arizona eliminated from contention. Payback is FUN! <grin>

Visit, chat ‘n ROUND most appreciated! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, September 26, 2008 8:27 AM
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Clouds and rain today as we are catching a little bit of the coastal activity. Kyle is slated to visit the old homestead over the weekend.  Bostons and New Yorks have a meaningless series Friday-Sundy.  How much you wanna bet they'll play?  I know, Boris, it's all about the money.  And, oh, my, didn't the football polls get knocked in the ehad last night with that USC loss.  As an SEC follower, I am enjoying that!

No comments (of course) regarding current political situation but it was interesting how our gas prices came down 10 cents/gal after the AGs visit yesterday. They're at $3.89 this morning when I visited the truck stop to get my a.m. newspaper.

Nick - Hope you're o.k. Remember what the training tape said - you jump with the parachute, not with the cooler. Scary stuff, man!  That's why I don't do roofs no more....

Rob was by with comments and information re his pictures. Ain't retail grand?

Fergie was in with comments - Our promotion "system" if you can call it that is somewhat similar to the railroad. Jobs are posted and you bid on them. Over the years I have bid on my own job four times. Ideal way is to get a grade raise, but you have to be strolling on the water to do that - I'm getting better; last time I took about three steps before I went down (lol).

Eric - 13 and counting - that's the style! Snow in the sleeper - interesting. Better close the window the next time. I recall seeing stuff like that on the Lake Shore more than a few times in the winter where it blew in through the vestibules and piled up in the car aisle - not in the rooms although we did have our share of busted water pipes and frozen plumbing. The Ty-D-Bowl man was skating!  Nice shot of your consist; proves the old saying that there's a prototype for everything if you wait long enough.

OSP - Nice car pictures you sent along - the lounge looks great! BTW, Pete looked right at home, I think. Must have been a ball game on the TV.

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Posted by DL - UK on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:20 AM

Hello Tom and all in

Round for the house and a beer for myself - been able to scan through the recent posts (well pics at least) see CM3 in juts before me.

Nice pics of Park Car interior Tom - and your recent pics caught my eye Rob. Good to see other regulars keeping up a better attendance record than myself!

Anyway - in the spirit of the bosses recent request I can at least say I'll def not be in next week as I'm on hols - and I think it will be computer (and telephone) free - down in the south of the UK so not too far. Breakfast in the restaurant car south tomorrow morning starts the trip!

Nick - I've just tried to e-mail you off line - it may have worked. Pete and I have got a plan for the meet the week after next - meeting location New Street Station. You'd be welcome to join us.

Pete - I respoinded to your message off line last night - may have got to you if you have not departed for your own travels yet - your suggested time and location made sense to me. Leave a message on my home phone when you are in the UK with your number and I'll give you a shout - but at the time of writing my intention is to be at the time and the place as agreed.

No doubt about it we will toast the rest of the regulars (and the boss) and probably most of the Legion of the Lost too.

Not been able to go through the recent posts in details but best wishes to all - Eric, Allan, Fergie and those of you previously mentioned of course!

Best wishes to all - let me check the breakfast menu while I leave another round for the house on the bar!

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Posted by DL - UK on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:25 AM

Tom - just spotted you'd done the friday round up before I called in - thought I might get in before you - not so!

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 26, 2008 10:51 AM

<"my" Skyline dome car at Gaspé - personal foto>

 

G'day Gents!

Just a mention this AM of the return of Dan <DL-UK> to the bar, even if it's only for a brief respite. Appreciate your Email (2) 'n notice of upcoming absences. As mentioned to one of our wayward regulars - do what you can, when you can. That's pretty much all we can ask, eh Question [?]

Point of clarification regarding the interior shot - it was in the Sykline dome car as opposed to a Park car <rear obs dome> . . . the Chaleur doesn't operate with a Park car.

Appears that you're rendezvous in the UK is coming together . . . certainly would love to join you. There just has to be a day . . . <wish>

Enjoy your time away! Thumbs Up [tup]

Also appreciate Shane kicking off things this AM . . . Bow [bow]

Later . . . .

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by DL - UK on Friday, September 26, 2008 12:27 PM

Thanks Tom - clocked that - kinda thougt it did not look quite like the Park Car I was in on The Ocean - that explains it - nice complenting exterior shot! Some serious blue sky!

Time for a quick half pint please!

Regards to all

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Posted by LoveDomes on Friday, September 26, 2008 12:31 PM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!

Ruth my deAH, you are looking mighty good on this fine day. Your radiance just fills this place with a glow that rivals that of the sun. <blush> No Boris, she's not a strobe light. Good Grief Charlie Brown. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

CONGRATS to Cap'n Tom for making the 500th AND turning the Page! Bow [bow] Wow!! [wow] Thumbs Up [tup]

That was really a nice thing for the guy from Connecticut to drop off at the bar. A bit of class on his part. More on those looking in, later on.

As it is the lunch hour, please ordAH up a Larsman special hero sandwich on a long hard roll. Yeah, it's ham ‘n Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH with two extra large crunchy pickles from the barrel. Of course a round of treats for the crittAHs too! Awk gets the tray of seeds, Tex the saucer of brine, Frostbite the bucket of ice cubes, Spike the tree bark, Artie the field mouse <OUTSIDE> ‘n Juneau the chew bone. Last, but not least - Boris, you get that LARGE jar of PPF for being such a dutiful Cyclops! (say what?) Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

A ROUND for the house my deAH ‘n I'll take a frosty mug of Schaefer ‘n the snack tray while waiting for my lunch. Thumbs Up [tup] Keep the change from that Ben Franklin . . .

I've been checking back a few pages ‘n see that our Cap'n hasn't let us down with his fine submissions. Let's see from page 19 on: Burlington Route Fallen Flags series - arrival of additional steam locos for the CAN-AM train room -  Saturday random pix from his trips ‘n Rendezvous - Emporium Theatre movies: Funny Farm ‘n Throw Mama from the Train - Southern Pacific nostalgia ad with that great night shot of the Sunset Limited book covAH - and another SP nostalgia ad with the Snowbound Streamliner book covAH Wow!! [wow] - another batch of pix from his random selection - more movies: Money Pit ‘n North to Alaska - pix from the exploits of the Proprietor ‘n the Bar Chandler - more pix from the exploits series - Chicago Northwestern nostalgia ad - and even more pix from the exploits - some great shots of the steam collection in the CAN-AM train room - again, more pix from the exploits. Add to all of that his daily summaries and the many, many other pix put atop various posts ‘n it is easy to see that without our leader, this ship would be in serious trouble. I enjoyed all of your work ‘n don't know where you get the energy ‘n motivation to do this for OTHERS, but the numbers don't lie. JUST LOOK at the "hits" this bar gets by comparison with others. Just take a look at that "active topics" first few pages (ignoring of course that many threads are STILL functioning with far more than the 63 pages we got locked down over!) Anyway, our hits actually exceed some threads that have far more pages than ours and far more contributions than ours, but MORE looking in. That should speak loud ‘n clear that Cap'n Tom ‘n youse guyz are doing something right! Bow [bow] A 5 Thumbs Up [tup] to Da Bossman!

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I like your choices of road names for the steam loco collection. I can relate to ‘em as well! Would really enjoy viewing everything in your railroad empire. Maybe one day.

Sounds as if you an the Bar Chandler had a fine time together and in spite of the Trainwreck bar being closed, managed to salvage the day! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Photos from the Transportation museum and your exploits all look super to me! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Can't forget the efforts of Wolfman Pete with all of his one-finger typing (no way do I believe you ever took the advice to heart to use TWO fingers) and those fine pix from his mate, Alan ‘n of course his own. Really some beautiful steam on those pages. Have a great time in your homeland and hope that the get together with Dan ‘n Nick works out. Sounds like a plan to me. Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick has been outdoing himself as well with all of the pix ‘n late nite conversations. Some keeping the boyz in stitches (as in laughing) along with some sage stuff (I think!). Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Really been a boost to have you back with such energy. Hope that fall from the roof didn't seriously harm you. I haven't been up on ours for a long time. The Mrs. wouldn't hear of it, not to mention I'm a below decks sailor. I let the deck apes to the climbing. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Eric the man who just keeps in contact whethAH in the desert or in his homeland of Sweden! What a great thing to do, mate! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup] Always enjoy the pix you insert in your posts, some designed to make even me THINK! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] And good luck to you in your retirement. Be careful what you wish for . . .

Then there's CM3 I'm NOT Shane, the Monday thru Friday guy who struggled to get through things at work in ordAH to participate at the bar. What a guy! Bow [bow] Always responds to the boyz ‘n always comes up with information probably many of us would nevAH have thought of. Most faithful support of the tils with his ROUNDS ‘n the juke box (Her Wurlitzer) with his quarters. OUR Jints are doing fine, huh Question [?] Your Sox made it to the playoffs ‘n I'm still hoping my Mets will too. Tom's Birds didn't, but they weren't supposed to according to the experts. I think they played well for most of the season, but honestly haven't followed the central that much.

From the world upside down there's our friend in New Zealand who has been as faithful to the cause as anyone could expect. Great stuff from his mind to our eyes. Nicely done, Allan ‘n keep those TUIs coming! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Who have I missed Question [?] Oh yeah, the man from Ontario who swings from the trolley pole. Rob, I think enough has been directed to you from Da Bossman, so I won't chime in. But, you SHOULD keep Da Man notified when you decide to bail out like that. Remember, Vito is a FRIEND of MINE! We went to different schools together. Anyway, some good stuff comes from Ontario ‘n now it seems with a new camera, we'll be seeing even MORE. Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie ‘n Dan, the bar's only irregulars have been in when they can, which I see our Cap'n has commented on several times in appreciation. Youse guyz should know that the irregular "force" means a lot to the success of this joint. So, keep it up! Congrats to Fergie for whatever in blazes you received to elevate you to the next rung! Have one on me! Dan, enjoy your time with Pete ‘n Nick. Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie:  Only SIX major vessels Question [?] That's disgraceful. I can just imagine how that must be a killer for career aspirations.

Before I totally forget - Cap'n Tom, I sent an e-mail to you for the annual Dart's match. Put me down as an alternate.

Now, some covAHs from the Larsman Mobile . . . just a bit over the RULE OF SIX though . . .

That should be enuf for now . . . hope all is good for my friends at the bar ‘n theirs! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Ruth, of course there's time for us to catch up on the <ahem> admin work for the Senior Manager. After all, the Manager has fallen woefully behind according to that overflow on his desk.

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars

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Posted by LoveDomes on Friday, September 26, 2008 12:44 PM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!

Just dropped this off over on Da Bossman's other thread . . . thought the guy from Connecticut would apprecite it.

 

Surprised no one has been over there to thank him . . . but not to worry, the Senior Manager took care of it! Mischief [:-,]

Ruth, fill up the flagon 'n another ROUND for the boyz! Boris, ring the bell . . .

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, September 26, 2008 1:24 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Holden's please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup], it is great to see your smile now Senior Manager Lars has been inApprove [^]

NICK Real sorry to hear of your fall from the cottage roofSad [:(], take it easy and I hope the aches and pains are gone real soonThumbs Up [tup].

It was good to look up the Oystermouth tramway and the Surrey Iron railway on the webApprove [^], it seems there is a bit of rivalry between the two as who was the first. I really bet the people of Swansea and the tourist authority wish the Mumbles tramway was still thereThumbs Up [tup].

Found a really great, I thought,web site on the remains of the Surrey Iron line with photos.Bow [bow].Great painting at the bottom of the pageApprove [^]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paulb143/sir.htm

Alan and I went down the Croyden area to travel the then new Croydon Light RailThumbs Up [tup]. It is a wonder we did not call in at that Young's pub in the photo in the link, at Pitlake with the tram passingSmile [:)].

Hope the wedding gig goes well SaturdayThumbs Up [tup].

ROB I thought the new camera would be a digital. Saying about the 35 mm film as reminded me to check my supply before I go to EnglandYeah!! [yeah]. The last time I was over I recall I had a job to get some 35 mm 200 ASA film as I was not near a camera shop at the time and in the end the only film I could get (I was on a trip and wanted to do some photos) was some cheap brand 400 ASA which did leave the photos with a lot to desire quality wiseThumbs Down [tdn]. I don't think the bride will let me near her digital after last time.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Thanks for the information on the signals.Thumbs Up [tup]

The ballast and works trains on BR used to have the smaller locomotives on them but today they use the EMD class 66s, some of the freight companies have 66s set aside for this work.

That is an interesting point about the smaller powered 4-axle diesels. I noticed that UP use them here in Jeff City to work the cars to the factories and warehouses along Industrial Drive. I have my doubts whether a 6 axle loco would be able to work the line. I guess it has been some while since there was a new class of 4-axle power was builtQuestion [?], which may be a problem in the future.

ERIC Thanks for the information and the photo of the Ub/eApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. It looks as though the electrics have just the one rather large traction motor driving the wheels though a connecting rodQuestion [?]. I see Ub 246 has a yellow warning panel on the ends.

Many thanks for the photo of the consist of the X 2000 Canadian TourApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]; I guess that train caused a lot of people to look at it as it passed byYeah!! [yeah].

DL Great to see you in the bar thanks for the roundApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup].

Received the e-mails, thanksThumbs Up [tup] and looking forward to seeing youYeah!! [yeah]. It will be great to toast the regulars at the Great WesternApprove [^]; don't know how far we will get through the list of the Legion of the Lost if we have a pint a name.Shock [:O]Big Smile [:D]

Have a great time in the South of EnglandThumbs Up [tup].

LARS A pleasant and good surprise to see you in the bar againApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. A really great post that sums up the bar and Tom's efforts very well indeedApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow].

Glad you are enjoying the photos from Alan and the UKThumbs Up [tup]. The scanner was one of my best buysApprove [^] and, touchwood; it has not suffered the same fate as most high tech things that come my way.Shock [:O]Smile [:)]

BORIS is doing a great job in looking after the MascotsBow [bow] finding his liking for PPF was a masterpiece.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the great selection of book and video covers from The Larsman MobileThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. The Appalachian Conquest looks a great oneApprove [^]

TOM Bow [bow]Congratulations of the 500th replyThumbs Up [tup].

 Usually when I visit the bar I leave the bar page up on my screen while I do the chores etc and of course despite Molly Throttlebottom's best effortsSigh [sigh] my typing speed as not improved very muchOops [oops].

The more you look into railway history the more you see discrepancies,Confused [%-)] especially with the early history. I am trying to find when the narrow gauge railways started to use steam power, which could be the 1862 mentioned of the board, it seems the earlier ones used horses or gravity. If I can find some concrete evidence perhaps I should let the MOT knowThumbs Up [tup].

Going to gather things together this weekend for the trip, have got the main things like tickets etc. I think I will try the English beer as a flu bug repellant until I get backBig Smile [:D].

I really hope one day you can get to BritainYeah!! [yeah] it really would be a wonderful time.Thumbs Up [tup].

I see RUTH must be busy with the 'Admin Duities' so a round please LEONThumbs Up [tup].

Back in a bit with some photosThumbs Up [tup] I hopeSmile [:)].

Pete. 

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, September 26, 2008 3:18 PM

Hi Tom and all.

Another Holden's please LEONThumbs Up [tup].

I have some British diesel switcher photosThumbs Up [tup].

The first one is, I believe, a Hibberd 0-4-0 diesel-mechanical which used to work at the Guinness Brewery at Park Royal, London, where she was named Carpenter with an identical locomotive named Walrus.If I am right the photo was taken on the Cholsey & Wallingford preserved railway.

 

The next two photos were taken on the Chinnor & Princes Risborough preseved line. The first one is an ex BR class 08 0-6-0 diesel-electric No. 08011 'Haversham' arriving at Chinnor station.

  

Also at Chinnor is an ex Ministery of Defence loco from MOD Bicester named Iris.

A couple of industrial shunters at a location I can't put my finger on at the momentAshamed [*^_^*].

Well LEON another roundThumbs Up [tup] and the Steak and FriesDinner [dinner]Approve [^]later.

Pete. 

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Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, September 26, 2008 3:19 PM

Good Afternoon Captain Tom and Crew

As I've been avoiding food all day I think it's time for some chow and being Friday and all  I think it's time for the Fisherman's Platter... With a side order of a "Handful of Beans".

And of course a Keith's to wash them down with.

Wow everyone has come out of the Wood Work today even a drive by from Lars! Tom will be beside himself! More titles to look over thank You Lars! Actually I just picked up two new titles a week ago

"Brown Book of Brass Engines", 3rd edition

"Central Vermont in Color" by Morning Sun books (And look @@  I even spelt "color" rongWhistling [:-^])

Regardless good to see you again!

Rob: Our trip to Toronto and possibly Kingston will be a true fly by as we will be seeing relatives mostly (maybe for the last time as Dad's siblings are getting up there).  I really don't know what our itinary will be like but if we have a free day you never know. I'll have a better idea by the end of next week once plans are more settled.

Shane: Not quite sure what you mean by "bidding" for promotion but it sounds different, something I've never heard of before.

Tom: E-mail is inbound regarding Dart's thingy

psssst just don't sign me up with "One Eyed Pete"! Word has it Guido is even scared when Pete's a throw'n!

Nick: Blindfold [X-)] Regardles It's gotta hurtSign - Oops [#oops] I only "go Aloft" to hang Christmas lights now. Don't mind heights but the falls are getting harder to absorb! I've actually been to the top of the USCGC Eagle's Main Mast! Have a picture of my toes I took looking down.

Re: the Digital Camera. Got a Nikon D50 2 years ago for Christmas after having an SLR Since I was 16 some 30 years ago. Overall digital is the way to go and I'm finding I'm getting far better results. No regrets.

Yes the Shipyard Brewery will have a feeder pipe that will directly to the "Ancient Mariner". Pictures will be forthcoming... sometime soon... I hopeSigh [sigh]

Anyway Gents

Thanks for the Top Up

Fergie

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959

If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007  

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 26, 2008 4:28 PM

G'day Gents!

Oh to have just one day like this DURING DAYLITE once per week! Wow!! [wow] Nice turnout for the Bar by the Ballast with surprises coming from both sides of the pond. Great to see Dan with multiple visits ‘n long welcome visit from Lars! with a two-fer! Thumbs Up [tup] Then there was Fergie - then Pete came thru with his two-fer ‘n it all began with a typical AM visit from Shane. Yeah, to have a DAYLITE like this just once weekly would be a blessing! Yeah!! [yeah] Many thanx to all for making it a fine time at "Our" Place! Bow [bow]

AND to top it all off - Lars 'n Fergie signed up for our 3rd Annual Dart's Challenge 'n Grudge Match! [wow]

Specific comments in my next round of Acknowledgments . . .

* * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *

Time for another installment of the adventures of The Proprietor ‘n Bar Chandler from a couple of weeks back . . . Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

(1) All kinds of trains to explore at StL MoT <Kirkwood>

 

 

(2) American Steel Foundaries #8 - Whitcomb 65 ton industrial switcher at StL MoT <Kirkwood>

   (3)

 

(4) Rock Island caboose #18058 at StL MoT <Kirkwood>

   (5)  

 

(6) That's the Proprietor at the bar in Mike Duffy's Pub

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom  Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by EricX2000 on Friday, September 26, 2008 6:49 PM

Good evening captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, I'm back. Now it's time for Rumpsteak Café de Paris! Yes, fries. A cold Tuborg Gold, please!

Better stop by before it's getting dark! The days are getting shorter and shorter. Today the sunrise was at 6:19 am and the sunset is at 6:19 pm here in Phoenix! A lot of activities going on here today! 

Tom –  My memory is very good, but extremely short. Usually it lasts for 0.2 seconds.Wow!! [wow] But for some reason I don’t forget Our Place. Perfect Swedish today!Thumbs Up [tup] I am impressed!Smile [:)]

I am glad you are keeping an eye on Pete and his black bag. Makes me feel much better.Wink [;)]

When I checked things after finding the snow drift across my bed I found that the window was open a tiny little bit. I was surprised that the snow didn’t melt right away. Anyway, that is another reason to ban snow.Mischief [:-,]

Ue is a small electric switcher that is amazingly powerful.Smile [:)]

I am going to be very polite about that baseball game. Very polite!Grumpy [|(]

More interesting photos from MoT! I just read on the sign for the caboose that they now have been replaced by EOT’s! So I thought I should show one in place.



It is the red and yellow device sitting on the coupler that is the EOT (or FRED).

 

Sent mail today.

CM3 –  I thought the window was closed, but it wasn’t.Grumpy [|(] I don’t know why I didn’t hear the noise from it. Maybe because I went to bed early and fell asleep immediately. I think it is worse with broken pipes and ice on the floor.Thumbs Down [tdn]

Lars –  Pleasant surprise, our Senior General Manager stopping by! Bow [bow] Good to see you!!!

Thank you, I am looking forward to quit working all together next month. I have many plans of what to do. The main thing is to stay busy!Smile [:)]

A good collection of book covers!Thumbs Up [tup] I really don’t know which one to pick first! Maybe the Connecticut trolley books! Yeah!! [yeah]

Pete –  You are right, Ub/e has only one traction motor, 1,250 hp. The livery on #246 was later changed. Smile [:)]

The consist we had in Canada was unusal, so to speak. I should have taken more pictures but I also had my job to do. There was people everywhere looking at the consist when we passed. But most of the traveling happened during the nights!

Interesting photos of the diesel locos!Thumbs Up [tup] The first one has an unusual design. Never seen that before. The last photo shows a diesel that looks very much like a steam locomotive!Smile [:)]

Fergie –  A Nikon photographer!Bow [bow] Very god cameras, I have two myself. I was against digital when they first came, but today it is a different story. Smile [:)]

 

A round for the house!

Eric


 

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Posted by Gunneral on Friday, September 26, 2008 10:40 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please.Yeah!! [yeah]

Eric. Just found out on our local news that IKEA will be opening one of their stores in Auckland in 2010, funny how the news turned up just after you had mentioned it.Smile [:)] I really forgot that you do`nt like snow as much as Tom does!Wink [;)] Nice set of pix from you, the car truck, first of Class UE electric loco, the labled Canadian rail trip pic and the EOT.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3. Good to see you in, looking forward to you're upcoming N&W RR info.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie. Congrats on your appointment to Captain for the upcoming voyage.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. The MN Class did look out of place in Newcastle as we were used to Gresley`s A4 locos`, as were the Royal Scot`s compared to the NE/LNER looks.Sigh [sigh] Am really disappointed in the Toon just now, have given up watching them at the moment due to the fans behaviour, hope that the appointment of Joe Kinnear will turn everything around from the debacle at the moment.Banged Head [banghead] A fine set of pix of the industrial locos` and a great links to the Rhyl Miniture Rly and Surrey Iron Line.Approve [^] Best of luck with your packing for the trip this weekend.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick. Some very interesting info on the Surrey Iron Line and the Oystermouth Tramway, nice to hear some of the old embankments are still visible.Approve [^] Best of luck for your wedding gig mate.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars. A most welcome visit by the Larsman with his usual fine selection of covAHS` from his Bookmobile, it`s great to see you sir, that's for sure!Bow [bow] Saw your covAH pix over on Tom`s foto forum site too, just like old times around here!Yeah!! [yeah]Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Dan. Good to see you in again, not long before you and Pete meet over there in Brum, looking forward to your report of the 1st meeting of the Brit branch of Our Place.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Rob. We will have an IKEA store opening in Auckland in 2010, according to a news report here the other day, they said that the word IKEA roughly translates into "Out of stock", Eric will confirm this for us?Question [?] Good to hear you are getting back to normal with your freetime schedules now. See we were in around the same time againSmile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom, A couple of great foto installments of Pete`s visit with you, a couple of great shots of you and Pete in Duffy`s bar and all the interesting notices about the displays at the St L MOT.Bow [bow] Living here downunder keeps us a bit isolated from some of the major events that occur in the northern hemisphere, such as the terrorist threats etc, although the French secret service blew up the Rainbow Warrior in Auckland some years ago now, and they were our allies, makes one wonder does`nt it?Confused [%-)] Of course their are pro`s and con`s to everything no matter where we live here on planet earth.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

See ya, Allan

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