Morning Ruth. I see that Boris has fed his menagerie and is now exercising them in the back forty.Let him know that there is a new jar of PPF waiting for him once they all get back in and settled.As for me I'll have a number three and the usual large thermos of "splashed" coffee
Tom-Have a good day if you can.I see that we are of one mind again as to our wayward. It's sad but with the state of things I don't see it improving youth,unfortunatly to have a family anymore absolutly requires two incomes unless one of them is of epic proportions.N Boris don't bring out those photo spreads of H&H !
The club was absolutly blessed with that one modeller. he scratch built that tressel and two others as well as a roundhouse and several other industries. sadly he passed away about ten years ago. I remember that when I was still a member Brian would take any and everyone under his wing,man could he build. He never once joined the NMRA either had no intrest in it he always said.
I find that the battery lawnmower has a pretty good wack as far as power and mulching ability goes. My yards far from even either. The downside is that as the batter set gets older it holds less charge,hopefully better tech materializes eventually. I'd love to have a herd of goats for the back forty but we are not allowed "farm" animals by city bylaw. So Boris can't come stay with me either or H&H.
Eric-Good to see you in your usual slot last night or this morning my time anywayNice shots from Silverton as well I've always found it neat to compare those old and new trucks.As I've said before it's nice to see the "tech" side once in a while
I'm sure that a "young buck" like you could do the training for your new light rail,heck you could run the place.Just imagine the company picnic's ABBA and the swim suit team.<pant pant>
Dan-Interesting url link thanks Good to know that you approve of the new teak stool. Boris shines it everyday for you,he also wears his Captain Kid hat while he does it. I finally convinced him that the eye patch wasn't a good idea though.
I can't imagine why the nightstar stock and all of the Euro style stock is so small,people are teh same size onboth sides of the pond. I know that guage is sometimes different , but surley the extra width could have been accomadated for.Oh well when in Rome as they say.Give me a Budd car any day though
Keeping fingers crossd that AB isn't too horribly torn up by INBEV,so far they've left Labatt's alone and it's been well over a decade since that aquisition.
Anyhow gents another work day is upon me so I'm off but I'll leave a couple photo's in my wake.
CP switcher "1200RS" in the Kineer yard on top of the escarpment( former TH&B territory )
Conrail train moving over the CP drawbridge just outside of Buffalo ( Erie canal I think )
CN GP9R at Brantford.
Enjoy
Rob
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and many $ for the jukebox. Nice weather here today - in the 80s with low humidity.
We are back from the northern division and I am working my way back through posts so here goes.
Rob sent nice pictures and some good comments - what does (did) Bombardier call that demo model? Also, nice PCC picture on the harbor route. Boston still has PCCs on their Mattapan route. They spent a ton of $ installing a/c on them. The first day the first one was in service (after two months testing), the a/c crapped out due to a dead "inverter" - the local paper had a lot of fun with that, especially since the heat and humidity were both pegged on the high end of the scale.
Eric - Interesting shot of light rail roadbed. I look forward to additional reports - what an idea! Run streetcars downtown on a separated ROW. I remember looking at the friction bearings on the tank car when we were at the museum.
Pete - Mallard pictures are good ones. You got your own day? Excellent!
Allan - Hello to you, sir.
Nick - I hope you are doing o.k.
OSP - Sold the brewery - jeez! I can see it now, Clydesdales in lederhosen - Boris would like that, I'm sure.
You sent an interesting summary of high speed rail corridors. I enjoyed the "accurate map."
Also my compliments on the B&M/MEC/CV offering. Lovely CV timetable - graphic arts were exactly that back in the long ago. Thanks for the rerun of Grafix Clasix posters as well.
Incidentally, I went to the Baseball Hall of Fame's traveling exhibit while I was in Boston. I recommend this to anyone who can get a chance to see it. Particularly interesting was Jackie Robinson's uniform shirt - heavy wool - which was displayed along with a letter from JFK to Robinson. I will write more about this later. Also a lot of Negro League material from Pittsburgh Crawfords, Homestead Grays, KC Monarchs, etc. BTW, I do like Boris's Cleveland Spiders sweatshirt.
I'll work my way back through material as I can but I'll be handling the morning turn again beginning tomorrow.
Work safe
Well good evening all-and guess what..?-Its fri. tomorrow --Before I start,good to see SHANE back in his accustomed armchair at the end of the bar-Have a big splash of the good stuff in your morning coffee with my compliments ...Leon,make with the beers old thing,seems we are a slightly reduced company this night so tell the galley crew to go for a small batch of beer-battered cod for general consumption,an inch thick steak for ERIC (we need to build him up) and blanch a couple of nets of fries-in fact,send a couple of trays of Mentor gold shield ales and a tray of steaks out to the back bar for the track crews who have been working on the S.O.B lines today -they have earned it.................Yes indeed-the great relaying has begun...
Before I go further,I must invoke rule 147 (favourite with snooker players ) -the gist of which is-In certain exceptional circumstances,members in good standing who have fallen behind with responses may be allowed a one-off post to share whatever they are all excited about without fear of tweeting before resuming the normal codes of polite social interaction.......
Well-here`s the thing-last nights planned visit fell foul of an extended practice,not least `cos Tony the singer is one of lifes great raconteurs-a simple question like " what time do we need to be there?" can result in a 40 minute monologue about the glories of touring Ireland in the `70`s (and did....)-trouble is,he had us all rolling around laughing so much we didn`t notice the passing of the time.........
Anyway-point is,was going to present a few track-plans for possible discussion,as it`s quiet tonight,will sneak them in anyway-first up is Seaton
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A very basic branch terminus,located in east Devon-part of the London & South Western Rly.
The branch ran for about 5 miles along the banks of a river,had 2 or 3 intermediate stations and no great engineering features-the reason I have chosen it isthat it was the first station I ever attempted to build a vaguely prototypical model of after reading an article in (I think) the sept `72 Railway Modeller where a contributer put up a similar example he had built in a week during the Easter school holiday-Thus inspired I built mine during the 3 weeks of the xmas hols.
As I recall it was all fairly primitive-although I do remember constructing a working signal box frame out of meccano,cotton & elastic for remote operated points-also I had the principal engine used on the line -the Tri-Ang M7,plus 3 mk1 coaches badly hand painted in military olive green-through workings were in the hands of a Playcraft N.B type 2 with maroon mk1`s and the daily freight fell to the little 0-4-0t -all entirely satisfactory to my 12 year old self.
The whole thing lived on a 6` x 16" baseboard with a 3`x16" storage yard and served me well for several years
The prototype was operated by M7`s with 2 car push-pulls and a daily freight-the bay platform served as part of the goods yard m-f and as a regular platform on summer sats. when through portions would come in to service the local holiday camp.
Moving a few miles down the coast we come to Ashburton:-
Now here we are in Great Western territory-you have all seen my pix from Buckfastleigh and Totnes-well this is the original terminus,before the A38 road improvements cut across the line.......
Well-as is apparent,this is operationally more interesting-but there is a sting in the tail-the goods shed..........
Standing regs. prevented engines from running into goods sheds,thus the coal staithes had to be worked with `reach` wagons and the mill siding could only be worked by cable shunting-a chancy number at 12"-1` scale-d*mn difficult in model form-also anecdotal evidence suggests that during cattle & sheep fair season the yard would be so full of wagons and engines that point rodding would be bent out of shape and pinch bars used to set the switches-reports speak of every inch of track filled including the engine shed road........
I believe the principal turns on this line were 14xx tanks although I have an idea 44xx`s would work through on high days and holidays and I am sure that a 57xx or 22xx would not look out of place--I reckon ,for a model,alternate green & black 14`s with choc & cream & blood & custard auto coaches respectively would work nicely-could go into more detail here but wont...
And so to the last of tonights plans:-Bled Jezero in Slovenia
Now here we are moving into foreign territory (quite literally) -This is a nice little modellable station in the North-Western corner of what was Yugoslavia-plus`s-it has a tunnel at each end of the station,is self contained,is set on the side of a hill so the landscape slopes sharply up from front to back,is a passing point so we can have 2 trains in view-it is on the route for steam specials which gives some latitude about what is run....
I have it in mind that this would be a good model to show off the trains I have inherited from Alan-it`s a sufficiently generic euro-station that the inclusion of overhead wires wouldn`t spoil the shape of it and as an added bonus,just down the line there is a spot where the line comes out of one tunnel,straight across a dizzy-making gorge and into another--got to be worth a look sez I !!!!!!!
O.K-enough with the plans already-gonna post this then be right back at you with the latest from the track gangs labours on the S.O.B lines
Well well,here we still are-Missisnick is off to hospital in Swansea for a couple of days for upgraded prosthetics (sooner or later she will come back with a new eye that actually works......) so naturally I bunked off and spent the day in the train shed-am delighted to report that with the help of the Can-Am track gang,much useful work was achieved-It must be said ,it wasn`t easy--feeding an 8 ft length of baseboard back onto the supporting framework with a two foot length of flexi trak poking out at a 90 degree angle (see pix) has left me with a huge respect for keyhole surgeons (and an abiding hatred of big fat tattooed spiders )-also-it would have been so much easier without those supporting legs-----grumble,grumble--but hey-its done -much of it by standing on a ladder leaning in through the window and twisting my body in ways that it shouldn`t do-Hopefully I should be able to find time this weekend to buy 2 new 22" double curves and 2 24" doubles to complete the circuit-
Have also got the new alignment in place for the mid-level station-a much longer passing track --unfortunately this means I`ve either gotta lift out the southern end to get to the existing low level storage tracks (more steel rail ) or another " in through the window" assault..............as it stands the storage yard only has one long road,if I don`t do it now I will only have to do it later.......
O.K-some pix so you can all share my thoughts here .....
Here is the proposed new alignment for the south end of the middle station-you cant see from the pic but the `y` point is about 18 inches long-should be able to coax anything through that
A first view of the middle station ( either Bradford or Midsomer Norton)-as you can see ,at the moment it looks like a bomb test zone......
Here is one from the opposite corner-the low-level bench work revealed-this section is all inch-thick mature oak -cut from a bunch of old school desks I rescued from the local dump-no need for bracing-this stuff doesn`t move at all-the upper terminus is all pinned onto this timber--bloody difficult to put pins into but totally stable.......
The underground section,freshly relaid with nickel silver rail.........
And looking in the opposite direction
Whilst the digi cam conveys much information it cannot cover the smell of burning flesh,melting plastic ties and general swearing that brought you this image-but,on the plus side-it all works
And now we move down to the bottom corner:-
This is the leaning in through the window moment.......was sorely temped to give up-but after climbing half way in through the window and wriggling round quite a lot -and swearing (gonna have to apologise to Rick & Karen next door-didn`t realise they had her mother down to stay.......)
Hey-Job done !!!!!!-had to pull the radius down to 15 " for a short piece but we are in business-lets have a drink with the Can-Am track gang -a fine body of men--assuming they have eaten their steaks let them have beer on me tonight........Leon-you know the ropes,just make sure 1 or 2 of them stay around tomorrow to replace the missing ties.........
O.K boys-is bed time for me-just to make sure you all go home with the right head on ,lets have the man in black-Johnny Cash live at San Quentin jail-" I hear that train a rollin`,rollin` round the bend`..........................
O.K-sleepy time-have a good night-I am sure SHANE is abed and catching up,ROB is working a night shift,TOM & PETE are out on the beer in Jefferson Mo and all the rest of the company are usefully employed.............
O.K:-thats me-nighty night folks....
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hi Leon, no not tonite! Just a cold Tui, please.
I just noticed that several members of the CanAm track gang are here. I heard they talked about some heavy jobs they had involved in the last few days. Nick? Hmmm.
DL – I am afraid you are correct about InBev and Bud and the future. I think big changes are coming within a few years. My best to your Bride! She did the right thing telling those rail fan idiots how and where not to drive!! I promise to show more pix of the light rail when they start their service Dec 27! Tom – You are right about the water situation. The quantity of water that can be taken from Colorado River is limited and we are having a drought that started 9-10 years ago. So the water situation can easily turn much worse anytime.Rob – I like to look at details of locomotives and cars, see what it looked like/was constructed yesteryear and what it looks like today. I am afraid I don’t know enough about light rail to train people how to operate them. It is not quite like locomotives even though they both run on tracks. But I would love a company picnic with ABBA and the bikini team! I like your photos! I know you have told me before, but I am asking again, who built the 1200RS switcher? I kind of think I know the answer, but I am not sure. CM3 – Welcome back!!! Good to see you again!It was thanks to your remarks about the trucks under that tank car I took those pictures! I will provide more pictures of the light rail this fall. Nick – An inch thick steak? That sounds very good, but you don’t have to build me up. I used to be built up more than I am now, but got rid of 27% of myself and don’t want it back. Most interesting track plans! I am going to study them closer! Same about your report from the train shed! Looks like you are rebuilding it almost from scratch. If you can smell burning flesh you are keeping your solder iron in the wrong spot. It’s very easy to do, happened to me years ago when I worked as a TV repairman.
A couple of cab shots. Since I still can't upload any new photos they are all reruns.
Controlstand in this one:
PE Blimp.
Class JS,
Boone, IA.
Eric
Hello Tom and all in
I'll have the full pancake breakfast please.
Tom, on InBev I don't think they will be foolish enough to actually slaughter the business - no way - but what they will do is remove certain behind the scenes things the avg drinker won't notice - and boost the advertising business to build up what they love to call the ‘brand'. This is where you will be hammered! Interestingly I was treading some comment (by an American) that was saying that the big US beers, Miller, Bud and another I can't recall, were actually very similar tasting despite the size and diversity of the US (and thus its drinkers) - apparently blind tasting had suggested some people could not tell the difference - don't know how true this was - but that the ‘brands' had very different feels to them - some more ‘blue collar' orientated - some more sports focussed etc etc - and there was massive ‘brand loyalty' amongst particular drinkers - and this would be where the fight would be over market share - this contrasts with the UK where competition is often between ‘beer styles' eg bitter, lager, stout etc - which had different flavours and getting people to change style was also an issue, or you fight it out for market share within the style.
Another thing InBev might do in soem bars is try to push premium continental beers that they have bought up and merged with and then try to flog them at expensive prices beside the home grown favourites - this is what they do here with things like Leffe and Hoegarden, once small independent Belgium brews that got bought out - then the craft brews got rid off and turned into mass bland product sold everywhere to people who like to think they are getting something ‘sophisticated'.
This is off topic and possibly all BS anyway - but it is Friday - my ‘two penneth' - now you know what that means!
By the way - Pete - Batemans Tour - entry includes free beer, Camra members get extra free beer (approx 8 pints each I think) - we got so much free we had to bring some flagons of it home on the train.
CM3 - back in - seems like you enjoyed your travels. Good to see you.
Eric - really liked that Pacific Electric car - stylish paint scheme. Where would that have run to and from?
Rob - well the issue about loading gauge is an interesting one - blame Robert Stephenson - it's a UK thing (not the case in Europe) I think the whole thing is based around the size of atypical horse drawn wagon on a colliery plate way. Then they made the tunnels that size - and it stems from there. You get more room on a euro continental sleeper. Problem is the cross channel trains had to be designed to work on the main UK network so had to be the same size as a main UK car size - that defines the whole thing. All there is to it I think. Nice to know the stool is so well cared for!
Nick - nice to see your progress pics - the inside of a classic British Shed - superb - I thought that mug was a bit out of scale however....
Nice pics of Ashburton here to complement your track plans, sadly not one of Seaton (yet) - presumably this is where the Seaton tramway is now located?
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/
Streetcar fans will enjoy this link:
http://www.tram.co.uk/acatalog/fleet.html
Pete - seeing your Mallard pics I was thinking it strange to think 20 years + since the east coast route was wired - and 20 years before that the west coast route - yet we've had no significant wiring in the 20 years since the east coast. Pretty pathetic - then we were told there was no demand for more electric as diesel was getting so efficient - then last few months people are starting to say (oh price of oil means maybe we should have more electric lines... why the heck do they forget so fast. Must be a definition of being in charge of anything - a very short memory....)
Cheerio
DL
Morning Captain Tom and Company (notice no "good" before morning)
Rounds for all who care to imbibe with me! Might as well get the Fish Cake Special with a side order of beans
I've wrestled with this site for the last 45 minutes trying to get an e-mail off to Lars... Lars could be getting 3 e-mails of the same for all I know... There's a 10 minute time out if there is inactivity then you have to log on and accet the "terms of agreement" to keep the lawyers paid happy. I've logged on 5 times already as I really don't think it's 10 minutes either.
Anyway we made it in to Halifax for a brief program and Captain's Change and am back at it once again 140nm South of Halifax somewhere off the Continental shelf. She's flat calm out here. (Tom is as your not suppose to whistle as it will bring winds)
Anyhow Once again I have enjoyed all your pics. Tom with the pics of his travels in the Rockies and such, Rob with the Pics of Trolleys (That's a dated pic of the Toronto HarbourFront, The taxi gave that away) and his Layout with Trestles! Pete's Mallard.
I really should comment more often but once alongside I get wrapped into the paper jungle.
Tom: Sorry no pics of the Bar as of yet as i don't have a License and the Sign isn't up yet and we had a little accident the other day as the kitchen door got blown off the hinges after the Still Dishwashing machine blew up... go figure.
Lars: good to see you! Please see the e-mail regarding the spelling of "Fergmiester"
Pete: The spelling of Sinko was one of the errors in the story it is actually Sanko.
Nick and DL: We will never learn by our mistakes. At present they are looking to replace the Hudson and are looking for a new design (Sorry we can't build the Hudson on her original lines as there's not a shipyard capable of doing those curved plates any more and it would be too expensive) I'll pipe down now. We'll get saddle with a shoe box and a set of oars just you wait and see!
Eric: Spent the better part of the evening (in a gentle roll and swell) pulling the loco apart. It may have sat on the shelf for 20 years but it has been run occassionally and it was dropped or banged as there ar signs of bending and soldering. The main Drive shaft was bent though i was able to straighten it. As a result of this new aquisition the Majority of the M.E.S.S. main line track will have to be... dare I say it... yes it's true...replaced. This will be a Winter project that I do not look forward to. I will be increasing all mainline curves with 30" + radius curves (ouch)
Tom: Loved the CV book cover, I'll have to keep an eye out for that one as it looks interesting.
Well Gent's thanks for the company!
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Hello all
I'll join Fergie in whatever's on offer.
Just thought anyone interested on Canadina rail travel (who might that be?....) might be interested in this post I picked up on another forum I keep an eye on:
I see that Via have drastically changed the Hudson Bay timetables since I rode it, the run is now about 10 hours longer and now you are able to see more of the Manitoba/Saskatchewan scenery that you previously passed through in the dark.My return trip to Winnipeg arrived at 3:30pm so this new timetable may reflect the timings better. I see aslso that the Canadian is also in line for a timetable change in December I'm told that it may include a lengthy layover un Winnipeg."
Interesting if true.
See you all later
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. In the 50s here today with higher temperatures expected later today - we missed the "great heat" in the Northeast which is really supposed to get cranking today.
Economic news for this a.m.: gas in New York (no Awk, not the city) varied from $4.25 to $4.28. It was 4.04 to $4.11 in Massachusetts and approx $3.99 in Pennsylvania. Price here this a.m. is (rounded up) $4.18.
DL- Good to hear from you - will check into the links you included a bit later. Lengthy layover in Winnipeg - sounds like a country song in the making.
Eric - Please keep the heat packaged over in your part of the country for awhile; we might need it here in a few months. Got my natural gas bill for the month (we are on a budget plan) so I am presently paying forward for next winter.
Nick's navvies have been busy to say the least. Oak benchwork - just like the Royal Navy back yrs ago. I have been known to scrounge scrap material for benchwork myself - you're right, that stuff won't move, but you'll also have fun cutting it to fit.
I enjoyed looking at the track plans. A couple of comments with your permission.
Will begin with the third one - it would make a nice display layout for a show - a view block and add a running loop and relax and "watch das trains roll!"
The first plan has a lot of operational possibilities. You have to run around to do the switching and then head back. This would be a fine 2'x8' N scale shelf type layout. Staging off to the left (cleverly disguised as a yard with some interchange trackage and the plan itself to the right - there is a lot of opportunity for scenery and detail work there.
The second one has a lot of possibilities as well - Idler ("reach") cars are clearly the only way to do the needful. I can see a few additional tracks to the right with a car float - then another staging yard to the left. This could be more than possible in N but there is a lot that could be done in HO as well.
Fergie - Just saw your post - Good to hear from you - get the CV book if you can; it's a good 'un.
Note to OSP - NHL schedules have been relaesed for the upcoming season. Thought Juneau would want to know.
Hi Tom and all
A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH.
Tom is heading homeward after a really great visit which included a couple of drinks at Pat's Place.
Back later to reply to the posts, I though I would post a couple of photos
In the photo of Mallard there was a first generation DMU in the background, this is a view from inside a class 108 DMU on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway in Yorkshire. The steam loco passing is a BR class 2 2-6-0.
From the West Country of England. On the sea wall between Dawlish and Dawlish Warren in Devon .
End of the line at Penzance,Cornwall, a class 67 on a mail train.
Pete.
<approaching Montéal's Central Station - personal foto>
Friday's Grin
Brain Cramps
"Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas."--Keppel Enderbery
G'day Gents!
I'm baaaaaaaaaaack ‘n I see things are movin' along quite nicely here at the Tavern by the Tracks! Many thanx to all who've kept pace with things during my brief, but fun time with Wolfman Pete in Jefferson City . . .
Check out the buffet table - quite a spread put on for the boyz today. Ring the bell, Boris - a welcome back ROUND on the Proprietor!
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Comments from the Proprietor
Gonna need some daylite HELP Monday 'n Tuesday, as discussed in my Mark Your Calendars Email!
BRIEF Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Thursday - July 17th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 56 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:32 AM: Seems that to mess with successful marketing ‘n distribution <AB or Labatts> makes absolutely NO sense - good point, if InBev hasn't screwed things up by now, perhaps they won't. One can hope . . .
Nice spate of 3 fotos!
Many thanx for the AM daylite visit!
Page 56 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 1:10 PM: Baaaaaaaack <finally>! Take your time in the catch-up process - but be sure to absorb the final few spates of Rendezvous Pix . . . would be a shame if you didn't see them.
Email received ‘n responded to - thanx!
We've been missing those quarters for Herr Wurlitzer ‘n your daily ROUND - glad you're back on board, Mate!
Page 56 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:52 PM ‘n 8:32 PM <12:52 AM ‘n 2:32 AM Friday GMT>: "In" with a twist - invoking Rule 147 hasn't been seen ‘round here since Moby Dick was a Minnow . . . . hmmmmm, perhaps - just perhaps, we'll put the <tweeter> aside. But, as the old priest said to the young priest - kissing a nun is acceptable my son, just don't get into the habit! <badabing - badaboom> <uh oh>
Must have time to fully absorb the track diagrams ‘n narrative . . . will do!
Fine spate of fotos from your reworked railway in the shed . . . as always, really some good details of your efforts have come through - loud ‘n clear!
Prosthetics - eye - Missinick <huh???> Perhaps something for Email . . . hope whatever it is that is going on comes through without a hitch.
Splash for all most appreciated as are the two fine Posts . . . will provide a bit more comment on ‘em later . . .
Friday - July 18th:
Page 56 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:07 AM <11:07 PM Thursday Sandbox time>: I never fully mastered the technique of soldering - was "formally" trained in the military - got by - followed the directions over ‘n over with the various ‘n assorted soldering guns I've purchased - ‘n still wind up making the worst solder joints known to man-kind. <yikes> Just not accomplished in that dept. I suppose . . . <grin>
Nice spate of fotos - doesn't matter one bit that they've been provided before - they fit in quite well with what we're trying to accomplish ‘round here!
Pete ‘n I decided that should we ever have a Rendezvous in Jefferson City - or a portion of one - you ‘n Shane can go check out the historical sites, whilst Pete ‘n I sit in the air conditioned comfort of Pat's Place! <grin>
As always, many thanx for your good cheer ‘n support!
Page 56 - Dan <DL-UK> at 5:58 AM <11:58 AM GMT>: Early, but "qualifies" as a daylite Post to help kick things off for this Friday at the Watering Hole by the Wayside!
Most interesting commentary regarding InBev - American beer "tastes," et al. Can only offer this - I surely KNOW an AB product from Miller or Coors. Remains to be seen whether that will continue . . . but seems to me one would be killing the goose laying those golden eggs, eh Yeah, we'll be seeing far more "foreign" brews under the InBev label at the supermarkets, beverage stores ‘n taverns . . . but we Yanks are most anal when it comes to shifting gears. Metric system comes to mind . . .
Enjoyed eavesdropping your Post - which of course has put me further in the hole of "catch up" . . . <groan> I'll get there!
You'd have enjoyed Pat's Place with us - an Irish Pub, American style - jam packed ‘n LOUD. Very neighborhood oriented ‘n lots of good cheer. <grin>
Thanx for the visit to help get our AM on track!
Page 56 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 7:54 AM <9:54 ADT>: First up - the Larsman is gone-zo - doubt <doot for Rob> that he'll catch your comments straight away. He's now pretty much a monthly visitor <if that> - also doesn't check his Email. Sorry. It's just the situation, Mate - just the situation he's in.
Don't know what revelation you have in store for him regarding his "jabbing" you over the E before I in FergmEister - but I can attest from my German heritage, that I do believe he's onto something. <uh oh> But what do I know - I'm also ¼ Irish!
That's probably the closest Post you've EVER come up with that "qualifies" <marginally> as an < I3 > offering! Keep that up ‘n you'll have us convinced that you do indeed give a Rat's Patoot about <aboot for Rob> this Bar by the Ballast of ours! <grin>
Not to worry, Mate - the <tweeter> is up on the chocks in drydock! <uh oh> But surely should be sea worthy next time YOU stray . . .
Means a lot to us to have you participate ‘n we know that as a working man at sea - a family man ashore - there's much more to life than playing in the Ether. Just that you do both so well - we enjoy hearing from ya! Thanx for the visit, good cheer ‘n ROUND!
Page 56 - Dan <DL-UK> at 8 AM <2 PM GMT>: "In" with a daylite offering to keep things on a roll ‘round here!
I had read about <aboot for Rob> the upcoming changes to the VIA Rail sked . . . thanx - I'll be sure to scrutinize ‘em . . .
Page 56 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:09 AM: Picked up nicely on Nick's offerings - which does the old heart good, in that engendering comments is what we strive for! Far too many times at all three of our bars, we've been insulted by those who seem to think that it's only what they want to offer that "counts" ‘n to blazes with being inclusive or acknowledging the other guy . . . this crew is far, far different ‘n much more appreciated!
Yes, picked up on the NHL sked in this morning's bird cage liner <aka: local paper> - noted that the "Garage League" has endeavored to provide more "balance" by having each team play every team in the opposing conference ONCE each season. Yeah, right - balance my patoot! <grin> But it's a start I suppose . . . bring back the Norris Division!
Nice to have you back in your "slot" ‘n of course the quarters ‘n ROUND make it even more meaningful!
Page 56 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:25 AM: My JCity buddy has come through with an AM offering along with some fotos.
We had a wunnerful time yesterday, last nite ‘n this AM . . . gotta do that again! Worst part of it all was the <censored> heat . . . mid 90s ‘n high humidity ain't my "thing" - thank the Lawd for air conditioned ice cream parlors <parlours> AND pubs! <grin>
Reminder: Ruth has the bar until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em a drink on the Proprietor!
Tom
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Just a quick stop for now.
OSP - E-mail rec'd and answered.
It's hard to tell some of us from the historical sites - nuff said!
Complete NHL skeds are in today's edition of USA Today. I agree with what you say - not enuff divisional play, IMHO, but balance is not what thy're after - just show me the $. Anyway some if the divisions or whatever they call them this week, are not really all that great to begin with. Now, Boris, reach down the dust covered bottle from the high shelf behind the bar and put three fingers worth in my coffee - they have an outdoor game scheduled for - by all that's holy - Wrigley Field; Blackhawks and Red Wings on January 1st. I'm so confused. Let's play two - or was that another guy?
Not like it was in the old days when they played over North Station is it? What's your thoughts, Rob?
work safe
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
ALLAN I won't saying any thing to the bride about the Lord's test matches, she would only say, "See what I mean"
Thanks for the kind words on the photos. Yes Mallard looked superb that day with the weather cooperating for taking photos. Unfortunately I did not get a ride behind her, as, not surprising, the tickets for the trains she ran were sold out pretty quickly and a few ran mid week. A friend did get a run behind her, the only ticket he could get was on the dining part of a train. He found vestibule window out of the way and stayed ,on the part of the trip Mallard hauled, the waitress on the train asked about his dinner and he said could you just bring me a sandwich, which she did.
ROB Yes the light at the end of the tunnel with paying off my bar tab was indeed a train coming., still the free beer and food till Monday is great
Thanks for the info on the building of the wooden trestle I guessed with the fine details on it, it must have took a long time to build, it was sad to see that the builder Brian had passed away.
Many thanks for the great photos. Great shot of the three diesels crossing the CP drawbridge.
ERIC Glad you enjoyed the photos. That is a good point about the precautions taken during Mallards record run, I cannot recall reading about them although the line where it took place is 4 tracks so maybe there was only platforms on the slow lines, also in those days most of the grade crossings had gates if not operated by a signalman from his box were operated by a gate man. I am not sure if there were any grade crossings on the part where the record took place.
Many thanks for the photos of Silverton; it looks a scenic place to visit and today's photos, great picture of the PE Blimp and its control stand and the Chinese steamer.
DL Many thanks for the link to the remains of the GC in Nottingham, it was indeed sad to watch that video of the demolition of Nottingham Victoria station, during that era a lot of fine railway buildings were lost and if not for a campaign it is hard to think of but St Pancras in London could have gone the same way.
Yes it seemed that they destroyed the GC track bed by removing bridges etc with indecent haste after it closed.
A brewery tour would be a great place to visit while in England, 8 pints seems a generous deal for CAMRA members
Before we were married the bride we visited Denver for a few days and afterwards we added a couple of days or so and drove to Durango, the bride knew I was interested in steam trains.
Yes it would have been really good to have all 4 of the British based preserved A4s in steam for the celebration, I am not sure how much work is needed on Mallard to get her running again and I guess the NRM is very busy getting Scotsman overhauled. In the back of my mind there was something historic about the train that Mallard took over, like the first electric hauled passenger train into Doncaster but not sure. The train that Mallard took over was hauled from London by the one off 89001.
Before the special arrived this clean class 31 in Railfreight red strripe livery passed by.
I agree about the electrification it should be extended but what puzzles me is why the freight operators are buying just new diesels and using them many miles hauling freights under the wires when there is nearly new class 92 electrics in store.
That sounds a great newsstand at Derby Market; do recall the old WH Smiths news stand that was in the entrance hall at Derby station.
I wonder if any of the old slip coaches survived into preservation, as you say it would be great to have one on the GCR and they could slip a coach at Quorn. I found a link to slip coaches
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip_coach
Yes I wish I had traveled on the APT we saw a lot of the sets when they were on test and the short while they worked services, we thought that they were going to take over the services like the Pendelinos of today.
CM3 Great to see you back. Sounds as though the Baseball Hall of Fame is well worth a visit, Looking forward to the details.
Not sure if the day at the bar is just a on off or whether it is to become an annual event.
NICK Although I am not an active modeler I am really enjoying the track plans and the descriptions of the stations. I'm a bit puzzled about the stop block in the Yugoslavian station.
The Can-Am track gang certainly deserve a drink a two after the fine work they done on your layout, many thanks for the photos.
FERGIE Good to see you in the bar and that you are enjoying calm seas.
Glad you liked the photos and I thought it strange that there was a ship named Sinko something, I guess Sanko is better.
TOM Really great to have had you here in Jeff City for a visit and seeing from your post you enjoyed yourself here as you say the only thing that could have been better was the heat and humidity.
Thanks for the food and drinks until Monday, the steak tonight will taste even better than usual.
Thanks for the kind words on the photos, it does not indeed seem 20 years since those photos were taken.
Many thanks for the interesting link to the smoking memorabilia; I don't know if I would have the tin with the exotic lady holding snakes on it though.
Yes I think H&H should only wear the beaver suits when it is closing time and the track gang seems reluctant to leave.
Not sure how the Brain's SA became known as Skull Attack but it is a good drop of ale, perhaps Nick knows where SA got its name..
Well RUTH another Bathams please and then the Steak and Fries that H&H have prepared but not the one that has what suspciously looks like a beaver tail sticking out from it..
I see CM3 Shane ‘n Pete have been "in" with their 2nd for this day . . . so, I'll chip in with one to cap it off!
Now Arriving on Track #2
Classic Drumheads by the Dozen - #4
<Initially Posted on 11 Feb 2008, Page 183 at "Our" Place II>
(1) GTW - La Salle
(2) C&O Lines
(3) CN&W - The Namekagon
(4) Milwaukee Road (CMSTPP) - The Columbian
(5) DRG&W - The Panoramic
(6) Erie - The Limited
(7) GN - The Empire Builder
(8) IC The Seminole
(9) KCS - The Southern Belle
(10) L&N - Dixie Line
(11) NYNH&H
(12) NYC - The James Whitcomb Riley
Enjoy!
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Pete. The game of cricket can get confusing to those who have not been brought up with a lifetime of watching it! A very fine selection of pix from the K&WV Rly, Devon and Cornwall, the one off 89001 and Class 31 diesel. Sad to read you missed out on that trip behind Mallard in 88, your mate was a true enthusiast not leaving his prime position, nice of the waitress to bring him a Sarnie. Good link to that Slip coach info.
Rob. Their are no taxes` on Lotto or betting winnings` over here as well. Will have to keep an eye on H&H, with blinkers on of course. Some fine diesel loco pix from you again.
Eric. Theirs no snow on the ground around here at all but theirs still quite a lot up on the Ruahine Ranges to the west of us. Couple of fine pix from Silverton.
Dan. Thanks for that Slip coach update, the early British and Irish rail companies were great innovators of ideas to keep running costs` and times` at an efficient level. Nice link to the GC Rly in the Nottingham area.
CM3. Nice to see you back with us again. Saw some of that last game of baseball at the old Yankee Stadium the other day, it was reported as the longest game ever played there, some of the hits were very spectacular to watch.
Nick. Hope Missisnick is feeling much better now? A very fine write up with the diagrams of the track plans, and some fine pix of your track re-alignment project, sounds as if you had to be a contortionist to take some of them.
Fergie. Good to see you back on board once again.
Tom. Looks as if I`ll have to wear a set of blinkers when I`m at Molly Throttlebottoms Adult Learning Centre! It`s all part of a global brewers` conspiracy to amalgamate so many worldwide breweries, at least over here they have`nt changed any of the brew tastes`, only hope they do`nt start applying the same sort of price rises` that are affecting our gas supplies! Liked that Brian Cramps Aussie exports` quote! See we were in at the same time today,fine post on the Classic Drumheads by the Dozen #4 a really nice selection.
See ya, Allan
Leon, yepp, exactly. Filet Mignon and mushrooms!! Tui, please!
Thought I would be able to stop by in the afternoon, but other things needed my attention so that did not work out. Anyway, I can now upload new pictures again, Apple finally fixed the probles (except one) today. Instead this place was behaving kind of strange tonight, but right now it seems to be okay.
DL – Pacific Electric #418 was originally built for Oakland, Alameda and Berkeley Lines of Southern Pacific RR and used in the San Francisco Bay area. Later it was transfered to SP’s Interurban Electric Railway and was running across the San Francisco - Oakland Bay Bridge until 1941. It was then bought by the U.S. Maritime Commission together with 60 other IER cars and put into its Calship service between Los Angeles and the harbor area to the south. That service discontinued in September 1945 and Pacific Electric purchased 418 (plus other cars). After being remodeled in 1947-48 it operated on PE’s Southern District lines out of downtown Los Angeles. 418 was retired 1961.Fergie – Thanks for the infor on the new M.E.S.S. locomotive! I guess she has been used in heavy traffic considering bent main drive shaft! So the new loco is causing some expenses for the railroad, increasing the radius of the mainline curves! That will cause a lot of disruptions for the traffic, late trains and so on. I am sure it will keep you busy for a while. CM3 – I’ll be happy to keep some of the heat packaged in this part of the country for a while. There is more than enough both for Allan and for your part of the world! We are also on a budget plan for natural gas and electric power. Makes kind of sense.Pete – Thanks for the photos! Do you know what those cables on front of the class 67 are for? Could it be some kind of UIC-cable, used for the PA system, door control, etc?Was the line for the speed record a 4 tracks line back in the late 30’s when they set the speed record? There is a problem with your pictures in your last post. They don’t show, most likely because the page doesn’t load completely for whatever reason. I tried several times and at one time I could see the very top of the second picture. Tom – Pat’s Place, hmmm. I’ll talk to Shane, we might have a better idea! My soldering technique is probably kind of average, not the best but acceptable. I was also formally trained by the railroad after I became a road foreman. I am not quite sure why. A good collection of drumheads! Denver & Rio Grande Western’s The Panoramic and Great Northern Railway’s Empire Builder are my favorites! Allan – What the heck are you learning at Molly Throttlebottoms Adult Learning Center? I thought you already knew all the tricks in the book!
A few Friday night photos.
I am afraid the only thing I know about this locomotive is that I took the picture at Greenfield Village (the Ford Museum), Dearborn, MI.
Swedish State Railways class F, 4-6-2, #1200. Photo: Hans Polanik.
Here it was supposed to be one more picture, but for some inknown reason it won't show. I'll try again tomorrow.
Saturday again - a good day for the working stiffs at the bar - we retirees don't know what day it is, most times! <grin> Coffee ‘n pastries are fresh ‘n ready as are our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts listed on the Menu Board! Get a move on . . .
Continuing Head's Up! I will not be here on Monday ‘n most probably Tuesday. Daylite help requested . . . Manager Rob will also be gone-zo - Thanx!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Friday - July 18th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 57 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 2:48 PM: Back with a 2nd visit on this Friday . . . Yeah, I picked up on the outdoor NHL game in ChiTown . . . good location for a winter's game, but poor choice of venue. Surely wudda pushed hard for Solider Field . . . doesn't seem that the "Garage League Moguls" are interested in attracting a large crowd. Makes no sense to Moi, but then again - hardly anything does when it comes to the "Garage League" - let us not forget who "runs" it ‘n where he came from - Basketball! Yeah, right . . . it IS about the money! [#offtopic - but YOU started it! Since the <tweeter> is temporarily indisposed - we're both off the hook. <phew>
Perhaps that traveling show will wind its way to St. Louis - would dearly luv to see the things you mentioned. Too bad one can't take a train to Cooperstown - now that I'd DO - even aboard Amtrak! <grin>
Thanx for the PM swing by with quarters ‘n a ROUND!
Page 57 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:15 PM: Our Bar Chandler returned with his 2nd submission for the day . . . always appreciate the time ‘n effort put forth by our Resident Brit in Mid-Missouri!
Really enjoyed those two fotos of the BritRail electric locos. Came thru in nice clarity of color ‘n detail!
Thanx for the link on the slip coaches . . . always learnin' stuff at the Tavern by the Tracks!
Check this out regarding the Skull Attack reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA_Brain_&_Company_Ltd
Since I've now seen ‘n become acquainted with the Wolf Den, you're out of excuses for NOT putting up at least a modest HO layout. You' ve got some fine stuff - put ‘em on operating tracks! Didn't think I was ‘checking' didja - but I did! Think big, but begin small - just a temporary layout will getcha feet wet - you KNOW you'll get all of the help you need right here!
Don't believe CM3 Shane went to the Baseball Hall of Fame - he visited a traveling "road show" that was in Beantown . . . One day, we ARE going to Cooperstown, NY - it's one of those places I've simply overlooked during all the years spent in the northeast. Definitely wanna see it . . .
Can-Am Trackgang worked on Nick's layout Hmmmmm, perhaps they were transported to Wales via a ZEP flight. Wonder what the tariff was No matter - some mighty fine details in those Pix provided by our man in Wales!
All kinds of good stuff to eavesdrop ‘n hopefully, your efforts will be absorbed by our <GoR>!
CHEERS, Mate - it was a fine get together! <clink>
Page 57 - Allan <Gunneral> at 8:33 PM <3:33 PM Saturday NZ time>: You definitely wudda had a grand time with us at Pat's Place in JCity. Terrific atmosphere - non-stop good time ‘n met up with a former Brit-sumariner (10 years on active duty, 12 <I think> in the reserve forces>) fun guy ‘n one of Pete's friends. Seems there IS a conspiracy afoot here in mid-continent USA for a takeover by the "red coats." <yikes>
To set the "record" straight regarding lottery taxes here in the states - there are no taxes on the winnings, per se. What they DO is collect the INCOME TAX straight away, rather than wait for one to pony up at tax time. Either way, you pay the piper, Mate. <grin>
"Blinkers," hmmmmm. Perhaps - but I'd surely wear some "protective gear" in the "jewels department, as Molly has been known to do a "reverse Crocodile Dundee" move on males . . . <yikes>
Was telling Pete how surprised I am that we haven't attracted any Aussies as "fixtures" at this bar. We had a guy swing by at "Our" Place I for about a week or so - then gone-zo. Great guy - but I believe he totally disappeared from the Forums - not just our joint. Then another came by at "Our" Place II, but had nothing in his profile - nor did he let on he was downunder. Made a few Posts, then gone-zo. Only found out later - after seeing his cyber handle show up - that he was an Aussie. <I clicked on his Posts in his profile ‘n caught the references . . . > Anyway, surely would like a couple of more from your part of the world - Australia ‘n New Zealand would be a sure-fire positive tandem at this Watering Hole by the Wayside. Came to the conclusion that once the guys figure out it takes commitment to hook up with us, many opt out. Such is life - always figure it's their loss, although we've had some fine troops in here.
Many thanx for your fine Post ‘n ROUND of Tui!
Saturday - July 19th:
Page 57 - Eric <EricX2000> at 2 AM <midnite Sandbox time>: And "in" strolls our Sandman with a bunch o' responses for the crew!
There really are many historic sites in JCity for you ‘n Shane to enjoy whilst Pete ‘n I retreat to the confines of the Pub . . . consider it just a "waiting room" for you two to return! <grin>
Some interesting info in that PE #418 elaboration.
Budget plans for utilities have been going on in these parts for decades . . . I suppose there's always two points of view on it - but it does take the "sting" out of an unusually high power bill. <yikes> Of course, all adds up to the same total at the end . . .
FYI - Pete's fotos came through "loud ‘n clear" on my ‘puter. Gremlins in the desert
That's an interesting insight regarding Molly Throttlebottom's Adult Learning Centre that you put forth. Some are enrolled to LEARN how to perfect a given skill, whereas others go to CONNIVE ‘n figure out how to perfect ways to beat the system. Hmmmmmm. No wonder you can't be trusted anywhere near the Penthouse Suite! <geesh> We're onto you, Mate! <uh oh>
Two fine diverse fotos!
Many thanx for your < I3 > Post ‘n good cheer!
Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
It doesn't appear we'll have any visitors today, given that two of our number never come thru on weekends, another is on holiday, time zone differences account for two others, another is most-times a nite owl, ‘n who knows what our Bar Chandler may be "into" . . .
Sooooooo, rather than sit here waiting ‘n waiting for someone to Post . . . here's what may be my only offering <aside from the daily acknowledgments> for this day . . .
A few fotos from my visit to the Wolfman's territory <yes, the Brits have "claimed" JCity, MO as a "beach head" for their return to the new world!>
Tom in JCity with the Wolfman! #1
(1) Brit main HQ in mid-continent USA - That's interim Governor General, Pete!
(2) Centennial Park scenic overlook of the Missouri River at JCity - future site of Brit embattlements
(3) Park is located at the former Boliver Street Bridge site
(4) ‘Zoom' shot of MO State Capitol building - soon to be Brit Territorial Supreme HQ
(5) Long line of Herzog cars awaiting movement for refilling in connection with right-of-way construction work
(6) Say "good-bye" to FRED!
More after the next person visits . . . .
A bit early but I think a pint of Holden's Mild would go down a treat on this cloudy but very warm day please CINDY.
TOM Many thanks for the Classic Drumheads by the Dozen. They certainly added a sense of style to the companies top passenger trains. They are all good but I like the simple style of the C&O Lines and the artwork on the DRG&W ‘ The Panoramic' ones.
Glad you liked the photos.
Many thanks for the link to the Brains Brewery. It seems I have not tried the latest variation of the SA, as it was only introduced in 2006 perhaps Nick can tell us the difference to the latest style to the new one. I would like to try that Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau (sort that one out spell check) introduced in 2006, made with Welsh Honey I wonder if Nick has tried that one as well.
I would be good if that traveling Baseball Hall of Fame where to pay a visit to our area.
Indeed it was a great get together.
ALLAN Yes I think you have to grow up with cricket to really understand it. I used to love listening to the Test Match Special on the radio when commentators like John Arlott and Brian Johnson come really make the game come alive.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. My friend on the train was the same guy I went up to Doncaster to see Mallard and take the photos.
Yes I learnt about slip coaches from that link. I believe there is some cine film of a slip coach in operation but I can't recall where I saw it, it could have been at our steam club we had in Rugby.
As Tom says it would have been great if you could have been with us at Pat's, I think you would like it. When the Brits came over for my wedding it was like a second home to them.
ERIC Thanks for the details on the PE # 418 it seems to have had an interesting life.
I think the cables on the front of the class 67 are part of the multiple unit control, for two locos working together, also some mail cars were converted with a small cab so the mail train could be propelled in the mail depot with the locomotive at the outer end. The system works using the trains lighting wires.
I have tried to have a look to see if it was 4 tracks when Mallard done her record run, I seem to remember seeing a photo lately of her on the run but can't remember where just now hopefully I will find it. I don't think there was a lot of publicity before she made the run.
Sorry about the photos not showing I will e-mail then to you.
Many thanks for the photos, Torch Lake looks an interesting locomotive and # 1200 looks in great condition and working well on that run.
What's that you say CINDY if I can't say that Welsh Beers name I can't have it, oh well back to the Bathams and its free until Monday. Back in a bit with some photos.
Seems our Bar Chandler was about to drop in on us pretty much on top of my last . . . Soooooooooooo, time for another installment:
Tom in JCity with the Wolfman! #2
(7) Twin spans of the highway bridges crossing the Missouri River at Jefferson City, MO
(8) Amtrak Depot building
(9)
(10)
(11)
(12) Smaller of two waiting areas - this one apparently is left open, whereas larger one remains closed ‘til close to train arrivals ‘n departures.
More to follow . . .
A pint of Bathams please CINDY.
TOM Many thanks for those really great photos from your visit here in Jeff City, there is great detail in them when they are enlarged..
Yes with the flag out it was not long before another Brit rallied to the flag.. I am not sure but I think the building that is now used as the waiting room was the Union Hotel at one time .
Now for some photos.
Ex LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 45110 at Gloucester on a rail tour on December 11th 1999 from Nuneaton that skirted Birmingham to Gloucester and back. The Tour included traveling the Lickey Incline in both directions. On the climb, of the nearly 3% grade (1 in 37) for 2 miles, the train was banked by BR Standard 2-6-4 tank No 80079. That is Alan standing by the front of the locomotive.
45110 hauled the first leg of the final BR steam train, a special on August the 11th 1968.
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The locomotive that banked (helped) 45110 climb the Lickey bank. No 80079 on a railtour at Crewe Station.
After Nationalisation Of British Railways in 1948 BR designed a Class 5 4-6-0. Standard class 5 No 73096 on the Mid Hants Railway at Alton, now the terminus of the BR line from London Waterloo.
Another BR Standard, class 9F 2-10-0 No 92212 takes water at Loughborough on the preserved Great Central Railway. The 9Fs were linked to the GCR in BR days working fast freights known as Windcutters or Runners due to the high speeds these engines achieved on these trains.
Well CINDY a round please and if there is any steak left that will do fine for.
Pete made it back for his 2nd ‘n some fine Pix . . . sooooooooooo, here's the 3rd in the series . . .
Tom in JCity with the Wolfman! #3
Rule of Six suspended <by one>!
(13) Visitor's Center building
(14) Approaching westbound UP freight
(15)
(16) Bringing up the rear
(17) Pat's Place
(18) Pete at his favorite stateside watering hole
(19) Just a wee bit too early for a refresher! <grin>
More to follow . . . but only after a daylite customer's Post!
Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!
Yes, Leon, a 31 would be just perfect tonight! A Keith's, please.
Busy day today, but I finally made it before dark! Very quiet here today! Vacation time?
Tom – Waiting room? Isn’t there one at the Amtrak station? That would be a perfect place for you and Pete to wait! I am sure they have drinking water available for both of you, while you wait for the fact finders!!! I just noticed that one of Pete's photos shows a water fountain in the waiting area!!! As I said, a perfect place for you to wait!PE #418 is an interesting piece of equipment! Kind of noisy to ride, but that is okay. I think the Trains server had a bad evening last night. Did not give away all the info at several occasions and not Pete’s photos. But I can see his photos today!I think it is time to investigate Molly Throttlebottom’s Adult Learning Centre. Under cover of course, but something fishy is going on. I saw Vito’s SUV, the armored one, parked outside last night. Interesting photos from JCity! I heard that the Centennial park will be renamed to Hyde Park, or was it Hide Park? You should be proud, being a friend of the Governor General Pete! Will he still be able to be our Bar Chandler? Nice photos from JCity and Pat’s Place! But I don’t know if that would be such a great place for you and Pete to wait. I think the Amtrak station would be much better. I think I recognize that Swedish designed and Belgian built car in front of the visitor’s center!Pete – Thanks for the mail with the photos! Today your photos in the post are showing. I noticed that the electric has only one pantograph! I must say that surprises me. I forgot to mention the cables being used for multiple unit control. In the old country some of the class Rc6 have two different types of multiple control systems and one on them is using the so called UIC-cable (looks very much like the cables on the class 67). That system is mostly used when the locomotive is at one end of the train and there is a cab car at the other end, push-pull operation. It is not important to find out if there were four tracks when the Mallard set the speed record. I was just curious. Nice photos from your 1999 railtour! 3% grade is steep! How many cars did no 80079 pull up that grade?
A few photos.
One of the new stations for the light rail in Phoenix.
Wabash #573, Museum of Transportation, Kirkwood, MO. Worked hard all its life!
City of St. Louis Water Division #1, Whitcomb from 1924. Has mechanical drive, stick shift with clutch.
Williams, AZ. Grand Canyon Railway Station to the right. The track straight ahead is BNSF's line to Phoenix, AZ.
Car hooked up to HEP, Williams, AZ.
The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys`please Leon!
Eric. My bride reckons you`re never too old to learn anything, anytime! A fine selection of various pix, another Pheonix Light Rail station and ROW shot, when do the cars start running in that area? That #573 loco sure looks well worn, thats for sure!
Pete. Some fine pix of the BR Class 5 and the Class 9F locos`, that Class 5 in the green paint work looks great! Would have loved to have joined you and Tom at Pat`s Place in Jcity, from Tom`s pix of the place it looks a real homely bar. I remember an old saying about the game of cricket, it goes something like "When you are "In" then you go "Out", and when you are "Out" then you go "In".
Tom. Pity about no Aussies` staying around here at "Our Place" for long, I found that when we lived over there that a lot of train enthusiasts were a bit individualistic and did`nt mix too much. The "Redcoats' are doing the same thing over here and in Aussie as well! A really fine set of pix in those three posts of your visit with Pete at JCity, some nice shots of general area with the Amtrak station building and yards, the Capitol building and the ones of Pat`s Place with Pete, would have loved to have joined you both at the bar there, it would have been a great get together that's for sure! We are lucky over here with winnings, we only pay tax on any interest accrued on the amount that has been won and banked in an interest bearing account, theirs no tax on the main amount as it is classed as unearned income.
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Reminder: "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
<but go ahead ‘n slip your messages thru the mail slots on the doors!>
And here's the FINAL spate o' fotos from my JCity experience! Figured since I'll be away for a day or more, best to complete the series whilst I can!
Tom in JCity with the Wolfman! #4
Rule of Six suspended <by two>!
(20) An Irish Pub!
(21) Pete at the bar in Pat's Place!
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(23) An interesting back bar!
(24) Interior of Pat's Place
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That's IT - Enjoy!
<AeroTrain at MoT, Kirkwood, MO - personal foto>
A smile to begin the week! <since I won't be here to kick off the week . . . .>
Someone in the dugout said, "Yogi, you're ugly," and Yogi's response was, "So? I don't hit with my face."
<A Yogi-ism!>
Yes, it's Sunday once again - the bar is CLOSED, but it's my time to get a few things squared away before the new work week <for many> begins in earnest tomorrow!
Boris ‘n the gang love this day, as they get free ‘romping rights' to the place, then of course later on we head off to Can-Am Gorge for the weekly marauding through the wilds. <yikes>
HELP requested during daylite on Monday ‘n maybe Tuesday - Thanx!
Good news! RR BOOK RELAY 2008 made it safely to Nick in west Wales!
Saturday - July 19th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 57 - Pete <pwolfe> at 12:21 PM: Next time you see English Bob, tell him that you've researched the flag regulations he ranted on about . .
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/04C1.txt
<scroll down to Section 7, Position and manner of display . . . .>
There's all kinds of resources out there in the Ether - but best to get it from a ".gov" source. Wonder why that entire subject is soooooooo important to him, aside from the fact that he took seriously that which was assigned to him during his working career. Oh well . . .
Fine < I3 > Post for Saturday, although there surely wasn't much going on ‘round here, eh Figured it would be that way - expect more of the same as summer drags on ‘n on ‘n on . . . .<ugh>
Many thanx for the visit, was beginning to think I'd be doing a solo . . .
Page 57 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:38 PM: Back as promised, with part deux!
Believe you are correct regarding the old Union Hotel ‘n the larger waiting room at the JCity Amtrak depot . . . read that somewhere. Might be in that little booklet I gave you sometime ago listing all of the stops along the StL-KCity route . . . What You can't find it!!! Check your black bag! <grin>
Fine spate o' five fotos! All excellent shots, but I'm mighty impressed with that monster 2-10-0! Some beast on the rails, fer sure, fer sure!
Figured out what your schedule was yesterday <Saturday) . . . just looking at the time of this Post - the "opening hour" ‘n a certain someone's return . . . . however, I won't reveal it here in the Ether! BUT I'm "onto" you ‘n your wicked ways, Mate! <uh oh> Can take Englishman out of the Pub, but can't take the Pub out of the Englishman - or something like that! <grin>
Spent FAR TOO MUCH TIME trying to find that web site you told me about for Pat's Place - little did I know that the proper name is Paddy Malone's Irish Pub . . .<geesh> I should <tweet> you a gudun for that "little" omisson! Fortunately for YOU, the <tweeter> doesn't get out of the chocks 'til I do! <uh oh>
http://www.paddymalonespub.com/drinks.html
Thanx for the two-fer, ROUND ‘n Email!
Oh yes, this one's for YOU!
Page 57 - Eric <EricX2000> at 8:06 PM <6:06 PM Sandbox time>: Kinda lost me with that reference to Pete's foto with a water fountain . . . methinks you've confused mine with his. Anyway . . . the Amtrak station in JCity has a very large waiting room - the one in the foto is more like an ante-room. The station is unmanned - meaning no Amtrak employees are assigned there. Volunteers work the station prior to, during ‘n after train arrivals ‘n departures - then the larger waiting room gets locked. That's pretty much the same way Kirkwood is - although they do leave the doors unlocked during daylite - it is a historic landmark that gets lots of attention ‘n security from the police dept. directly across the tracks.
To be perfectly honest, I could NOT handle a steady routine of the noise level in that Pub . . . way, way too noisy for my liking. Had a grand time, but it was good that I'm accomplished at reading lips! <grin> Oh yeah, there was a brunette sitting at a table adjacent to ours that was looking for YOU!!! No kidding . . . <uh oh>
Of course Wolfman will continue on as our Bar Chandler - he is very, very attentive to his call to DUTY! Shouldn't be a problem, as no one will understand any of his proclamations as Interim Governor General anyway!
All fine shots ‘n the clarity is superb! Those converted coaches alongside the mainline didn't do much to buoy my spirits, though! <ugh>
Rather surprised at how little margin there is for safety between the road ‘n the light-rail right-of-way. Then again, at times I think one could construct a 16 foot wall, ‘n some idiot would find a way to circumvent it! <geesh>
I've read the link - but since it's from Wikipedia, don't give it the credibility one might if from other sources. Anyway, appears to be a good route for a starter. Would've thought they'd have wanted to link the airport first - but what do I know!? <grin>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/METRO_Light_Rail_(Phoenix)
Pete treated me to a DVD showing of a fantastic history of British Rail . . . if I can copy it successfully 'n there are no copyright infringements, I'll have to ship you a copy . . . really well done ‘n provides fantastic insights to the background, all in a conversational manner. Saw ‘n heard a steamer chugging up a 3% grade - looked mighty fine!
Also found a terrific ice cream parlor <parlour> to escape the afternoon heat in . . . great thing to do in summer's oppressiveness, fer sure, fer sure! <phew> Contrary to what some might think - we weren't at the bar when it first opened . . . had to drop off the Swedish designed, Belgian assembled <‘n US owned company!> vehicle - then take the bus to the pub! <grin> Pete's bride was designated driver later on in the evening . . .
Many thanx for your visit, good cheer ‘n < I3 > Post!
Page 57 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:54 PM <4:54 PM Sunday NZ time>: One of the reasons I'm not affiliated with rail groups of any kind <real or model> is that I have pretty much zero-tolerance for those who take this thing far too seriously. Can't handle that. I'm "into" trains simply for the enjoyment - if it gets anymore involved than that - deal me out.
Can't comment on the Aussies or any others for that matter as a group, but I've surely been in situations far too often where the anal types have driven me to distraction. As for getting some new blood here at the bar - it would be terrific, but the more I've given it serious thought, the clearer the reality becomes - there probably aren't that many "out there" who would want to make the commitment we have to something like this . . . hit ‘n run seems to be the way in the Ether. But, not here!
Still think an Aussie or two would make our group even more interactive than it is . . . but we're doing fine, just as long as we don't experience "disappearing acts" as some have done without so much as a fair-thee-well . . .
Pass on to your bride that I think she's "spot on" with the idea that one is never too old to learn . . . ‘n that goes for learning what NOT to do as well! <uh oh>
Gotta watch those "lobsters," eh Give ‘em an inch . . . <uh oh>
Now THAT's the way to do it regarding the lottery winnings - it surely isn't "earned," so where do the tax people "get off" with their money-grubbing Ticks me off . . . big time. As if they don't get enough through payroll taxes . . . <mumble> <grumble> <snort> <bratzafratz> We GIVE away more money to nations ‘round this globe than some countries have in their national economies. Makes my blood boil, since if left to me - they'd be treading water. <arrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh> Boris - NO, NO, NO - we're CLOSED today - so don't ring the <baaaaaaaawong> <gong> <baaaaaaawong> <gong> bell! <bratzafratz>
Okay - that's outta my system - for now. Many thanx for the visit, good cheer ‘n of course the ROUND of Tui!
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . . July 20th thru 26th: Return to Lonesome Dove <1993> Starring: Jon Voight, Barbara Hershey, Rick Schroder, Louis Gossett Jr., William Petersen - and - ENCORE Presentation of Emperor of the North <1973> Starring: Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine, Keith Carradine, Charles Tyner & Malcolm Atterbury. SHORT - The Three Stooges: The Hot Scots <1948>.
<Note: Emperor of the North first shown on Sunday Feb 12th thru 18th, 2006>
Return to Lonesome Dove <1993>
PLOT SUMMARY Return to the story that captured both the spirit of the Old West and the hearts of America. Return to the breathtaking locations dramatic confrontations stirring romance and thrilling action. RETURN TO LONESOME DOVE. Jon Voight Barbara Hershey Rick Schroder Louis Gossett Jr. William Petersen and Oliver Reed star in the sweeping story of three ex-Texas Rangers based on characters created by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Larry McMurtry. After returning the body of Gus McCrae to Lonesome Dove Woodrow Call takes on the challenge of driving a herd of wild mustangs 2500 miles north to the Hat Creek Ranch in Montana. But tragedy triumph despair and deceit will greet him before he ever gets there. From Indian battles and deadly gunfights to broken hearts and broken dreams it's another incredible adventure you'll be able to treasure time and again. RETURN TO LONESOME DOVE continues a classic tradition: to perfectly capture and preserve the pioneer spirit of the American West for generations to come.
Return to the story that captured both the spirit of the Old West and the hearts of America. Return to the breathtaking locations dramatic confrontations stirring romance and thrilling action. RETURN TO LONESOME DOVE. Jon Voight Barbara Hershey Rick Schroder Louis Gossett Jr. William Petersen and Oliver Reed star in the sweeping story of three ex-Texas Rangers based on characters created by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Larry McMurtry. After returning the body of Gus McCrae to Lonesome Dove Woodrow Call takes on the challenge of driving a herd of wild mustangs 2500 miles north to the Hat Creek Ranch in Montana. But tragedy triumph despair and deceit will greet him before he ever gets there. From Indian battles and deadly gunfights to broken hearts and broken dreams it's another incredible adventure you'll be able to treasure time and again. RETURN TO LONESOME DOVE continues a classic tradition: to perfectly capture and preserve the pioneer spirit of the American West for generations to come.
<from: amazon.com>
Emperor of the North <1973>
PLOT SUMMARY In this gritty and violent period drama set in the depths of the Great Depression Lee Marvin stars as A #1 the acknowledged King of the Hoboes. A #1 is famous among his fellow tramps for his ability to catch a ride on any train no matter how risky the hop or dangerous the guards. He acts as a sort of mentor for Cigaret (Keith Carradine) a young hobo who brags that some day he'll surpass A #1 in his accomplishments. But neither has had the courage to ride a train guarded by Shack (Ernest Borgnine) an unusually sadistic railroad cop who will brutally beat or even murder any man who tries to catch a ride on his train. A #1 is determined that no one not even Cigaret is going to deny him his title so taking his life in his hands he and Cigaret hop a ride on Shack's train and they are soon bearing the full brunt of his violent nature.
In this gritty and violent period drama set in the depths of the Great Depression Lee Marvin stars as A #1 the acknowledged King of the Hoboes. A #1 is famous among his fellow tramps for his ability to catch a ride on any train no matter how risky the hop or dangerous the guards. He acts as a sort of mentor for Cigaret (Keith Carradine) a young hobo who brags that some day he'll surpass A #1 in his accomplishments. But neither has had the courage to ride a train guarded by Shack (Ernest Borgnine) an unusually sadistic railroad cop who will brutally beat or even murder any man who tries to catch a ride on his train. A #1 is determined that no one not even Cigaret is going to deny him his title so taking his life in his hands he and Cigaret hop a ride on Shack's train and they are soon bearing the full brunt of his violent nature.
SHORT: The Hot Scots <1948>
PLOT SUMMARY The Stooges try to get jobs with Scotland Yard after graduating from a correspondence detective school. They wind up as "Yard Men" all right - picking up trash and pruning the hedges. But they get their chance when they find a note calling for three detectives to go to Glenheather Castle in Scotland to solve a mystery.
The Stooges try to get jobs with Scotland Yard after graduating from a correspondence detective school. They wind up as "Yard Men" all right - picking up trash and pruning the hedges. But they get their chance when they find a note calling for three detectives to go to Glenheather Castle in Scotland to solve a mystery.
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend!
Good morning gentlemen all...welcome to another week of relentless toil -Just thought I would stop in and make sure the breakfasts ,pastries and assorted goodies are ready for consumption-As ever,the coffee is freshly ground and hot,Boris` family samovar is full of good strong Darjeeling,platters of bacon,sausages et al are lined up in the galley and all is well with the world .
Will be back in towards the end of the day to catch up on the weekend,until then be lucky,happy and generally productive
Take care,
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Gonna be another warm one here (mid 80's - I know, Eric has the storm curtains out already to keep the heat "in."). Gas is at $2.17 for the moment and the Red Sox are, well, let's just say they are...
Pete has been visiting with photos and commentary. Enjoyed the 4-6-0s at Gloucester. The 2-10-0 is certainly constructed for limited clearances - Belpaire firebox is a nice touch. Your caption mentioned that they were used in fast freight service. How big were the drivers on these engines and how fast was fast freight. Pennsy had lots of them, nicknamed "hippos," but they were used on slower trains - pull the paint off the walls. BTW if you are interested in reading more about the Pacific Electric, locate a copy of Spencer Crump's book, Ride the Big Red Cars - I think you'd enjoy it. Again, PE is something I wish I could have seen.
Eric - Sent PE material and other pictures. You learned soldering to be a road foreman? I thought maybe they taught you about the efficacy of wood blocks in relay boxes and stuff like that. "Fact finders?" I like that, however, as fact finders we must keep moving so people don't think that we are exhibits! We budget gas and electric - at least you know what to expect.
Allan - Global brewers conspiracy - interesting thought.
OSP - The HOF exhibit is a road show as you suggested. I have been enjoying the Jefferson City pictorial - The station resembles some on the B&O in the eastern panhandle of WV. Pete looked well settled in - you can tell when somebody feels at home, can't you. "Paddy Says" is great. Also lots of stuff to read on the walls as well. More stories for next rendezvous. Great movie selection at the Theatuh. Have not seen Return to Lonesome Dove and Emperor of the North is, IMHO, simply the best railroad movie ever.
Also many thanks for drumheads.
Nick - Good morning to you, sir.
Hello all in
I'll have a Holden's Mild.
Tom - yep I reckon you'll be seeing those foreign brews (or pretend foreign brews since they'll brew in the US) juts as you say.
When you scrutinize the VIA western Canada time changes will be interesting to read your take.
Enjoyed the pics of your visit to Pete's neck of the woods - I note you managed to include some genuinely interesting foreground detail (ie wagons and tracks!) in the pics of the State Capitol building!
Pete - thanks for the info on the slip coaches - looks like Allan was correct about the slip coach on the WR lasting into the 1960s, and I was wrong - my apologies Allan! Thinking about the LNER speed record route - I think there are some grade crossings close to Peterborough on the north side - so certainly Mallard would have been going through them - but they did it on Sunday and I guess the staff were tipped off to keep the gates well and truly closed to road traffic - or what little of it there would have been then.
I can't recall the old WH Smiths at Derby station - my first visit there the station had been rebuilt in its current 1980s dull format. What happened to it - did it got to Crich museum?
Glad you enjoyed the GC Vic Station film - there were some bits with chaps balancing on what looked like high up narrow walls that I noticed - different attitude to safety at work then I guess!
Eric - thanks for the heads up on the Pacific Electric car - most interesting to read the details.
CM3 - nice to see you in. I'll let Pete answer the query about the 9F driver size - but here's a great pic, showing some serious revs per minute on one of these locos:
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10314568&wwwflag=2&imagepos=6
Wish I could have been around to see it!
Regards to all
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