Hi Tom and all.
A bacon sarnie and a cup of your famous coffee please RUTH.
A quick call in this morning, back later with my normal post.
A while back Nick posted some photos of the preserved South Devon Railway and I said at one time they ran into the BR Totnes station. I have found a couple of photos of the SDR train in the BR station.
The locomotive has uncoupled from its train and is about to run round, ready for the return to Buckfastleigh.
The locomotive is Great Western Railway 4575 class 2-6-2 Tank No 4588 introduced in 1927. In 1958 the locomotive was allocated to Newton Abbot shed in South Devon.
Back later.
Pete.
A pint of Holden's Mild to start with please RUTH.
NICK The pub in the photo really is a great place for a beer or three. It is right outside the gate to the old and now closed Great Western Wolverhampton Low Level station, with the road approaching the pub still cobbled. The rolls they sell have to be seen to be believed, ask the bride.
We were talking about the rail system in the Guinness Brewery, how I wish I could travel back and have a visit to the brewery in the 1950s.
It would be great if you could find some info on the Bournemouth West depot I was pretty sure I was told it was built on the S&D line with the station site at the end of the depot limits and it has been redeveloped. I see there has been a new depot built by South West Trains near Southampton to service the new 450 and 444 units, so I don't know what as happened to the Bournemouth West depot. Yes I think that was a Queen Mary brake van it was giving rides behind the M7. The Southern Region always seemed to have great open days at their depots and works.
We did not get Black pudding in batter in our area but I can still recall the taste of the pickled onions after the hot chips had warmed them up.
Real glad the sales of the DVD are doing well the way my bar tab is growing I am in real need of some extra income.
I had a look in my book and it said the Western Region D800 warships built at Swindon had two Bristol Sidderley-Maybach MD 650 of 1,152HP with Mekydro hydraulic transmission. The batch built by the North British Locomotive Co, D 833 - D865 had two NBL/Man engines with Voith transmission. It will be interesting if Eric could tell us about the V 200 engines.
Yes I remember the Bournemouth to Weymouth push- pulls now you mention it, I will see if I have a photo of the class 33/1 diesels that worked the service.
Really wish I was having a chicken and mushroom pie, chips and mushy peas sitting by the sea wall at Dawlish.
ROB When BORIS gets a higher mark for typing in Molly's annual exam, as what happen to me, I think typing is not my forte.
It is probably no coincidence that one of the UK's best diesel locomotive manufacturers, English Electric built their own engines and electrical equipment. Although a couple of private manufacturers and British Railways had good results using a Sulzer prime mover.
It is good to new those great bridges are in use in a new layout, have we seen any photos of them in their new location.
ERIC Thanks for the photo of the SP Alco S-4. Looking forward to your visit to the bar later.
TOM Must admit with the train running late I though it was going to be one of those days, but there did not seem to be the freight traffic there was on our trips.
Many thanks for the links to the Dominion Atlantic Railway, the poem Evangeline by Longfellow and the advert. I see with the railway using the identity of "The Land of Evangeline Route", they named some locomotives, I bet they were some good names. The railway was very busy in WWII.
It is good the Windsor and Hantsport is still using part of the line but it is bad news that the town of Kentville has demolished the ten-stall roundhouse the last type of this structure in Nova Scotia. The link to the photos of the demolition is real sad.
Many thanks for the KCS reworked encore. Those Southern Belle Drumheads were certainly attractive. It must have been a great journey traveling from Kansas City to New Orleans in the tavern-observation car and then retiring to one of the re-built Pullman Standard sleeper.
I guess the darker livery on the FP9s in the photos was a later variation on the livery on KCS # 34 is in, on show at Union Station KC.
Well Ruth a round please and then the Steak and Fries while I load tomorrows photos.
Pete
G'day Gents!
If not for Pete, this day wudda been a "wash" . . . many thanx for stepping up, Mate!
Now Arriving on Track #2
Classic Drumheads by the Dozen - #1
<Initially Posted on 21 Dec 2007, Page 156 at "Our" Place II>
(1) ATSF - Super Chief
(2) B&O - The Royal Blue
(3) B&M - The Flying Yankee
(4) Burlington Route (CB&Q) - Pioneer Zephyr
(5) CP - The Canadian
(6) Algoma Central Railway
(7) CN Railways
(8) GTW - The International Limited
(9) VIA Rail
(10) C&O for Progress
(11) CN&W - North Western Limited
(12) Milwaukee Road (CMSTPP) - Sioux
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Enjoy!
Tom
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual Tui`s all round for the guys` please!
Tom. E-mail received with your thoughts`, will chew over it and get back to you as soon as. Nice to read your bride is on the mend, why do the fairer sex get over the bugs quicker than us Guys` do? Could`nt get the book in the post yesterday, had a man in to replace the top section of our woodburner chimney and fit a new cowl as well, they`ve lasted 26 years so can`t complain at all, the book will be posted on Monday now. Enjoyed all the Classic Covers #1, and the 6 Pack Special #1 on the RR Ads, and those links to the Dominion Atlantic Rly, the Evangeline poem and the Rly poster, all very interesting, the RR Theme for the Day #4 on the KCS with pics, and a great selection of colourful drumheads`in Drumheads` by the Dozen #1.
Nick. Enjoyed your set of pics and another great tasty selection on the menu.
Rob. I`ve found that no matter what you never seem to to have enough room at all , ever! Enjoyed all your great selection of pics.
CM3. Was in on a quick visit, tried the Google links to the Windsor & Hantsport RR, some nice pics and info.
Pete. Not many of the shipyard workers in Wallsend used pushbikes`, it is quite a hilly place and also a very wet place during the winter, I think they saved all their energy for all the hard labour that they had to do, the buses ran about every 5 minutes` at peak times and the North Tyneside electric trains were very frequent too. Enjoyed your KC trip report with the pics and the pics of the GWR No 4575 2-6-2T.
Eric. Nice to see you in on a quick visit. Take things` easy.
See ya, Allan
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Wow, a lot of loud music here tonight! Hey, Leon what is going on? Oh, really!? No, no, I wouldn't do that. Let them have fun. A Filet Mignon with mushrooms, please! Fries and a cold Tui. Oh, make sure to let Cindy know that all drinks are on me tomorrow.
This took some time to go through, but it was interesting and fun!
Tom – Even though I have seen the Polar Express layout in operation it’s interesting to see the progress step by step when you built it! Nice photos!Nice heralds! I think I like the UP herald the best!A good variation of locomotives on those magazine covers! Steam locomotive, a diesel, an electric and a tiny inspection engine! I remember those posters from last September! Well worth seeing again! I think Amtrak’s dirty windows is not as much that they don’t care, it is probably more of saving money. Cutting the costs.Sorry I didn’t make it at daytime today, but I found a very sick cat in the backyard this morning and took it to the vet. Took a lot of time (and money) and the cat had to be put to sleep. A good portion of the day was lost. Thanks for the Kansas City Southern article! Interesting! I am surprised to see how short Kansas City Southern’s train No. 1 is in that photo from 1940! Just three cars! I like the KCS’ paint scheme on those EMD locos. Very classic! Also very classic drumheads! Pete – I guess the Southern and other Regions could always use borrowed locomotives for trains for which they had lamp brackets enough and in the right positions. Or they just added necessary brackets. Thanks for the trip report! Did you manage to get any pictures of the SP locomotive with SP numbers? Good variation of BNSF/Santa Fe liveries in your pictures!Santa Fe F45 #5980 in “Kodachrome” scheme from 1985. Not quite classic, but still...Looking at the pictures of the SDR train I wonder if that “overpass” visible in the top picture was built just for trainbuffs taking pictures of trains? It looks like a very temporary construction. Rob – Increasing the possible speed limit from 25 to 70 mph will certainly help keeping the trains on time. But, as you mentioned, it is sad to see such a good looking bridge go. I am not sure when those German passenger cars and cab car were built, but probably in the mid 60’s. I have mixed feelings about those advertising body wraps on locomotives. I think that reddish VIA F40 doesn’t look too bad, but I prefer normal paint schemes. Very nice layout in your photos. Was that your own layout? Why did it go to “greener pastures”? Looks good enough to me as is (was)!CM3 – I found some photos of the inside of the Traveler’s Rest car. See link below.http://www.gnrhs.org/spokane_3.htmhttp://www.gnrhs.org/geg_day3_07.JPGIt looks pretty nice! Thanks for the info on New York Central’s servie to Florida! But going to Cincinnati from Buffalo to catch a train to Florida reminds me of flying today. Like flying from Phoenix to Omaha via Minneapolis. Nick – Very interesting mix of trains in your 6-pack of photos! Canadian and British! I can also see a Kenworth 18-wheeler! Very nice layout! Nice garden railway! Do you have any more photos of it?I feel the same about that photo showing the track from the shed leading to the diamond!I wonder how many people they trapped in that Man Trap? Must have been pretty painful for the victims. Thanks for the picture of Prince of Wales! That picture shows pretty well how wide the loco is. Allan – So most of the NZ railroad bridges are metal? At least on the North Island? I am always taking it easy! I hope.
Eric
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Saturday once again ‘n time to jump start the weekend with a mugga Joe - pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
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Next up on the Birthday Watch List!
March 31st (Lars - 68) - Gone but not forgotten!
MOON PIE (March 21 - April 20) You're the type that spends a lot of time on the front porch. A cinch to recognize the physical appearance of Moon Pies. Big and round are the key words here. You should marry anybody who you can get remotely interested in the idea. A Chitlin would be a good mate but it's not going to be easy. You always have a big smile and are happy. This might be the year to think about aerobics. Maybe not.
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Friday March 28th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 4 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:18 AM ‘n 3:18 PM: Turned the Page to FOUR ‘n there was the Wolfman!
A surprise morning visit - but a welcome one at that - ‘specially in these times.
Two fine fotos in what appears to be a rather manicured setting - leave it to the Brits to add some CLASS! Anyway, wonder why that chap on the platform was running along side the loco Perhaps he was trying to get the attention of the engineer to let him know that he forgot something - the train left at the station! <grin>
Back in mid-day with a fine < I3 > Post! Don't know how you do it, for we haven't had very much dialogue lately - but you seem to find all kinds of topics to expound upon.
Have no idea which of those liveries came first - the multi-colored or the predominately black <I prefer the latter> but in either case, KCS did it "right." An eye-catching paint scheme, fer sure, fer sure. The Southern Belle was known as "The Sweetheart of American trains" ‘n it's easy to see why.
Given the finite resources available, it probably is best to let the past "go" with preservation relegated to film, fotos ‘n the mind. It is heartbreaking to see a deteriorating remnant of "back in the day" <ie: train station - roundhouse>. Also equally saddening to visit what used to be a bustling hub for passenger trains, reduced to that of a mausoleum with very few visitors. Don't get me wrong, I'm ALL FOR preservation of these things - but the practicalities jump outatcha - just can't be done.
Thanx for the visits ‘n ROUND!
Page 4 - Allan <Gunneral> at 8:31 PM: Saturday nite visit from our Resident Downunder Kiwi Connection! Makes it all "right" . . .
We had some chimney work done a few years back - tuckpointing, cleaning ‘n other repairs. Never knew just how much is involved with the maintenance of a chimney. The things we take for granted, eh Home ownership is nothing more than a vehicle for one's savings to be liquidated - over ‘n over ‘n over . . . <grin> <groan>
There was a time in my earlier days <daze> where it would've been most unusual for me to require the services of a physician. Ha! No more . . . My mind says one thing, whereas the old body is sending a far different message. My bride is a tough <old> bird who doesn't look or act her age <thank the Lawd!> . . . and does seem to rebound far quicker than I. No doubt a subject for authors to pontificate, eh
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n TUIs!
Saturday - March 29th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 4 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:57 AM: Back to the late, late or early, early visits. As said before - better than no visit!
There are things in life that really destroy me - one is witnessing an animal in distress. It tears me up to see an injured bird, squirrel or other creature that you know will leave this earth in agony. Really says a lot about a person who is so unselfish as to give of themselves ‘n their resources to help the helpless in the animal kingdom.
Five to our friend Eric!
Yeah, I picked up on that KCS short consist as well . . . without any further details, hard to guess what the "deal" was back then. Good observation!
You give far too much credit to the lunkheads who are being paid to maintain those Amtrak trains <okay, not ALL lunkheads>. I've traveled aboard many that have been neglected in the cleanliness department and for sure in the maintenance area. I've been aboard cars that have been placed in the consist backwards with apparently no regard to the impact that has on the traveler <business class-café car, for example>. I've seen restrooms that you KNOW haven't seen disinfectant, much less soap ‘n water for ions. I've witnessed table tops in the café car that are so sticky with the remnants of spills and the like all pointing to a lazy car attendant who doesn't <or won't> use the on board equipment to clean them. No, there are people who don't give a Rat's Patoot ‘n they should be ever thankful that I'm not their boss. <arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh>
I'll be honest ‘n say that I'm NOT looking forward to those aspects of traveling aboard Amtrak to Oregon later this spring. There are times when I feel that it would be best <for my mindset> to cancel the itinerary rather than put up with the incompetence ‘n uncaring. It may happen . . . It's not within in me to "reward" those who barely do their jobs - to thank people who are getting paid to perform ABOVE the level - not at the margin or below.
Enjoyed the 1st link . . .
Very nice effort with your < I3 > Post ‘n appreciate the ROUNDS for Saturday!
Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
A bacon and egg sarnie with a cup of your famous coffee please CINDY.
TOM Many thanks for the Classic Drumheads by the Dozen encore. They certainly added class to the golden age of railroading. I must admit I do like the simple design and the colors used on the C&NW North Western Limited drumhead.
The ex Great Western stations in Devon and Cornwall always seemed to be well kept with flowerbeds etc. I don't know what that guy was doing apart from wanting to star in my photo.
I agree I prefer the predominantly black livery on the KCS locomotives it really seems to suit those classic diesels.
I would think the cars that will be used on your Oregon trip will be in better outside condition than the one I had Wednesday. I really hope you get a good crew, as you say, the attitude of the staff makes a whole world of difference to the enjoyment of the trip. I hope you have as good a people as the bride and I had on our trip on the Southwest Chief and the staff on Wednesday seemed genuinely upset that track work had delayed the train into Jeff City.
Very good words for Eric.
ALLAN Hope the repairs to the chimney went well.
One good thing about the works at Rugby was that it was alongside the River Avon and at the bottom of a steep hill from the town where most of the workers came from so it was easy getting there but getting home meant pushing the bike back up the hill.
Thanks for the kind words on the photos.
As there been much said about England recent Cricket Test Series win over there
ERIC It was VERY good thing you did to help that poor cat although it could not be saved it did not have to suffer longer.
The SP diesel was coming off the branch line at Pleasant Hill and was hard to get a photo and I think with the state of the windows it would not have come out well at all. I did make a note of the locomotive's number it was # 9375. I noticed the SP used the same style of the numbers has the Great Western did on their cast cab side number plates.
I not sure what was going on with that footbridge at Totnes, I wonder if that was the temporary structure while the original footbridge was being repaired. I remember a while back there was a square fenced off area near the end of a platform at Sheffield station with a sign that read "Trainspotters Compound" or words like that.
Thanks for the photo of the Santa Fe F45 in that interesting livery, was that livery applied to many locomotives do you know.
Many thanks for the link to the inside of the Traveler's Rest car, there is also some good Great Northern models in the link.
This is the last of the photos from the Rocket 150 from Rainhill.
EX LMS Ivatt 2-6-0 introduced in 1947, these locos had the nickname of 'Flying Pigs'. The only survivor of a class of 162, No 43106 is hauling a BR Mk1 carriage.
Now for the biggest passenger locomotives of three of the Big Four.
LNER class A4 No 4498(BR No. 60007) Sir Nigel Gresley, the 100th LNER pacific built, named after their designer. The A4s were introduced in 1935.
Star of the LMS, Princess Coronation class(or Semis to us) of 1938, 4-6-2 No 46229 Duchess of Hamilton. This loco appeared as 6220 Coronation on a tour of North America in 1939.
Southern Railway Merchant Navy class 4-6-2 No. 35028 Clan Line. These locos first appeared in 1941 with an air-smoothed casing and chain driven valve gear, the class of 30 locos were rebuilt in their present form starting in 1956. 35028 is carring the Golden Arrow drumhead style headboard. The train was a Pullman from London to Dover where passengers, after crosssing the Channel, joined the French SNCF 'Fletche d 'Or' express to Paris.
War Department 2-10-0 No.600 Gordon. These locos were built for service in WWII. This loco was never in BR service although 25 of the same type were together with 733 of a simular 2-8-0 design.
The last steam locomotive built for BR in March 1960 class 9F 2-10-0 No. 92220 Evening Star. It is hard to believe that it is longer than from when the photo was taken to now than between 92220's building and the cavalcade.
A unsung hero of British steam locomtives a humble industrial loco.'Austerity' 0-6-0 Saddle Tank Robert. The locomotives for the cavalcade were kept in sidings at the National Coal Board's Bold Colliery, not far from Rainhill and Robert was still being used there. It was good to see Robert in the cavalcade. Although the loco has been preservered Bold Colliery has long closed. .
Hope you enjoy the photos..
Well CINDY time for a Bathams and a round please..
Predictably not much going on, but one of our stalwarts did swing by . . .
Customer Acknoweldgment <since my last narrative>:
Page 4 - Pete <pwolfe> at 1:05 PM: Wolfman was "in" with a fine spate of Brit steam fotos w/explanations . . . always much more meaningful when one takes the time 'n makes the effort to provide a write-up!
I've run across some fine Amtrak people over the decades of traveling aboard their trains - but also have encountered many disappointments. The latter tarnishes the idea of rail travel in the U.S. for me - always has, always will. Amtrak has been a sinking ship since inception 'n one need not spend too much time wondering about the motivation for those who KNOW they are headed for a siding as opposed to a full career. It's a long, sad truism <as I see it> which only detracts from what should be a fun experience for the paying traveler. I don't like having to embark upon such a journey with a "crap shoot" mentality - will it or won't it, kind of thing. 'Nuf of this . . .
Some see the glass half full, others half empty - while still others don't the see the glass at all. <Now THAT is prophetic, eh >
Enjoyed eavesdropping your comments. Thanx for the ROUND!
North American steam for this Photo Posting Saturday . . . .
PRR Mikado 2-8-2 #520 at Strasburg, PA RR Museum (1983) (creative commons)
USRA Heavy Mikado 2-8-2 #6001 (public domain)
CN #6307 4-8-4 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
C&O 2-6-6-2 #1285 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
SP&S - 2-8-2 #366 Mikado (courtesy: www.yesteryeardepot.com - foto: Fred C. Stoes)
GTW 4-8-4 U-4-B (foto credit: Richard Leonard)
NKP 2-8-4 #760 (from: Paul Eilenburger collection/yesteryeardepot.com)
Wheeling & Lake Erie 2-6-6-2 #8003 (from: yesteryeardepot.com - foto credit: unknown)
Emporium Theatre selections tomorrow . . . .
Good afternoon Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Cindy, I haven't seen you for a very long time! You look gorgeous today,as always! To eat? Ohh, I'll have a Top Sirloin steak with all the trimmings you have. Baked potatoe and a cold Keith's.
Ha, I managed to stop by early today! I can't stop for too long though. Have some more stuff to do today.
Tom – Obviously we have the same feelings about animals. I just can’t stand seeing a suffering animal. Cleaning inside should never be canceled in order to cut costs. Especially not restrooms or tables. Sticky tables in a café car makes you wonder how the kitchen part is looking. Very interesting pictures of North American steam! Especially the GTW 4-8-4. I can’t recall I have seen that before. Kind of streamlined. Oil burner.
Recieved mail yesterday, thank you! Will respond in a day or two.Pete – The Kodachrome livery was applied to over 300 Santa Fe locomotives. That was when Santa Fe and Southern Pacific were going to merge in the mid 80's. The merger was stopped by ICC in July 1986 and after that Santa Fe gradually repainted those locomotives back to blue and yellow. It was all done by the end of 1990. Thanks for the photos from Rainhill! It must have been something else to see all those steam locomotives running by. Did they show any diesel locomotives at all?
I have some pictures from North Freedom, WI.
Western Coal & Coke #1, 4-6-0, built 1912.
Chicago & North Western #1385, 4-6-0, built 1907.
#1385, North Freedom.
Ooops, I can't find the info on this little locomotive. It is no longer in North Freedom.
North Freedom station building.
Evening all (as dear old Sgt Dixon used to say)-just a quickie before the main post-some pix,primarily for PETE,but might prove to be of general interest....
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Here we have Totnes station as of last summer-the essential feel of the place is the same but contempory light industrial architecture is continuing it`s remorseless advance
Got yer fish supper..? -Well here`s Dawlish promenade on a typical Brit june day -Missisnick and small monkey homing in on ice cream stand......general note-the bridge on the right is the only access and is about 8 feet high-the noise of an express or freight passing at full bore is difficult to describe........
A rather better view showing the station as well
The promenade has many benches,perfectly located for the discerning al-fresco diner ( the sea view is pretty groovy as well
O.K-back directly-just wanted to get those in before I forget...........
Right then,Leon-the frock really suits you,not many chaps can wear that shade but you carry it well,now when you`ve finished your nails perhaps we might have some drinks-oh,Cindy ..errr-look...errr.. sorry, I havn`t felt quite right since last nights post-gig takeaway ( Ishmaels Whale-meat kebab house will have no more of my custom,believe me.......)
Hmmmm-O.K-right then boys,the latest zeppelin flight brought extra goodies -a whole range of Jugoslavian Slivovitz (caution -this stuff is FIERCE ) we have plain,with honey,with herbs or peppered -there is a tray of shots just coming from the freezer ( steady Boris )--either down it in one and roll into foetal position or dilute with a suitable mixer (vodka) and drink it in two,then curl up.----The Slovenians have a shot of this with a beer chaser and a mug of coffee so black it absorbs light, on their way to work-auto repair shops flourish.
Right a mixed bag of pix to enjoy whilst you sample the wares and I carry on playing catch up....
Now-in the midst of PETE`s excellent cavalcade memoir we had a shot of Drwsllyn Castle in light steam -here is the same beauty lifting at least 10 fully laden coaches out of Fishguard & Goodwick ( Wdig in Welsh ) Harbour on rail that was a lot greasier than it looked after rain earlier
"As I was walking over,the Cork & Kerry mountains"-one for the boss man -here is the view south-west from the aforementioned mountains down onto Bantry Bay-I would like to think that this is where the Highwayman narrator of the song "met with Captain Farrell and took all of his money"............ahh-such whimsy
Like Mel Brooks` `Waco Kid` I can`t shoot into the sun,but I was already tresspassing and didn`t fancy trying to cross the tracks just for the light-in the background we have the evening Rosslare-Waterford service which appeared to be stabling-it had eased out of the station ,then reversed back in. In the foreground are stored suger beet wagons-the actual object of the shot as the last freight traffic on the emerald isle-pic was in the M.O.W & general storage yard west of the stn & nth of the wharf lines
Turn 90 degrees right and you have -some distinctly un-British looking bulkhead flats-and I`ve just noticed,a cement silo on the left......
Now here`s a mixed bag-top left we have the Festiniog Railway`s original #4 `Palmerston` (George England works,about 1865 or so ) at a gala day at Newcastle Emlyn on the Teifi valley rly,
Top right we have `Prince of Wales`s` sister engine `Owain Glendower` ( the last true prince of Wales...apparently..) just coming off shed to take the morning train up to Devils Bridge-a rare blue sky day in Aberystwyth...
Bottom right and we are back with PETE`s cavalcade shots-he mentioned the little engine on the flat behind the `Princess`-well here she is -the Earl & the Countess at Llanfair Caereinion-lovely graceful little things with the B/P design ringing out loud and clear
And bottom left-still a mystery-she sits outside the Welsh Highland (1964) yard at Portmadoc-has the look of a Flanders engine about her,but the front and back headlights suggest subsequent overseas service-would be delighted to know more....
The joint line lives on.......................
Continuing PETE`s then and now theme for the South Devon-Here is Buckfastleigh about ten years ago
And here is a shot from another delightful summers day ten years on...............
And here-for no good reason at all,other than that I rather like them ,is an otter in the adjacent sanctuary(well-come on now,you can`t look at train pix ALL day surely ....)
PETE-this is the current `prairie` allocation-had to squeeze in to get this one-was pi**ing down by this stage-gotta love British weather -have recently seen some footage of this one out on the line with blood & custard coaches-suprisingly elegant-I guess a good design works in any colour (shut it Leon-I`ve apologised once-dont milk it already)
Now ERIC asked to see more of the Compton Down Rly-well here you are dear boy-a pleasure to share
And more of the same....
And to stretch the boundaries one last time-from the place that brought you the man trap ,an agricultural engine-unlike most of its time,this is not a self propelled machine,but a mobile power plant for all sorts of hideously dangerous looking machinery-the fly-wheel on the far side transmitted the power via belt drive-a tractor would pull it to the appropriate field,the boiler would be filled and a fire lit and off you go.....right-enough diversions,time to go play the catch up game-will be back as soon as time allows........
Leon, give me a number 1, that is all I can eat now. Coffee, please!
Back again for another short visit
Nick – A bunch of summer photos. Is it the same line passing through Totnes as well as Dawlish? At least the same type of train. I was going to ask if there is any freight service but I just noticed that you mentioned something about the noise when freight trains are running across that bridge.
I found some more pictures I wanted to show today, not classic but it is Saturday only once a week so what the heck. These are showing the X2000 on TV (one of countless times) in the US. I don’t remember what show it was. Test equipment with recorders of different kind.A look inside the cab. Yours truly to the left.
ERIC-delighted that your hardy Northern European constitution survived the Slivovitz experiment -In answer to your question,yes-both stations were part of the same grand plan-indeed,there was more to this than meets the eye-not only was the original line laid out on the 7ft gauge but it was also planned to be part of Brunel`s `atmospheric railway`-a wonderfully bizarre idea-the trains would be drawn along by a paddle in a more or less sealed tube by vacuum created at regular pumping stations (the pic of Totnes seems to show one behind the platform on the right,the best preserved example is,I understand ,at Starcross
Since the change to the standard gauge (1896) all the Great Western broad gauge stations have enjoyed a wonderful `spacious` feel
Now they play host to all manner of strange stuff that I have no better idea than yourself about-down here in the far west all we have is a moderately regular service of R.D.C`s (every 2 hours) with oil trains running out at night and the odd steam special
Right -I`m starting to ramble-looks like catch up is gonna have to wait until tomorrow
Boris-I`m putting you in charge of Pizzas and Steaks (lord forgive me) -don`t let me down
Reminder: "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs.
Was a "different" sort of a Saturday ‘round here as two of our crew came through with multiple Posts to provide a fine topping to an otherwise slow day at the Tavern by the Tracks. Many thanx to Eric ‘n Nick for stepping up. Of course, kudos to our friend Pete, who seems to be always ready for ‘nother one with some chat thrown in!
Page 4 - Eric <EricX2000> at 3:28 PM: A rare Saturday DAYLITE visit from our Resident Desert RETIRED Swede!
North Freedom, WI fotos fit well within our Saturday Photo Posting Day! theme. Many thanx! Looks like a place to visit - but there'd have to be ‘nother reason to make such a drive. Cheese! Now, why didn't I think of that
Surely isn't everyday one gets to see a steam loco getting water from the tower . . . a scene most common "way back in the day."
Many thanx for the visit ‘n Saturday drinks!!
Page 4 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:30 PM <12:30 AM Sunday GMT>: Just when we thought day was done, along comes our Resident Londoner in Wales to keep things hoppin' at the Saloon by the Siding!
Sgt Dixon Is he with the Mentor Village Constabulary ‘n Home Guard Anyway <drumroll> those fotos are top drawer, Mate. Lots to gander at whilst the imagination runs wild. Figured that was your lady in the fotos - somehow getting to "know" her ‘round here.
Can only imagine the sensation one has when a passing express is high-balling along that bridge adjacent to the station platform. Interesting arrangement . . .
Nice shot of that coach <?> at the station - looks like a rather modern car - I need to get my ticket ‘n climb aboard! Destination? Who cares!
Many thanx for the spate of Pix ‘n descriptions!
Page 4 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:51 PM <2:51 AM Sunday GMT>: Back for ‘nother go at it with some mighty fine fotos w/explanations.
Your description of the Slivovitz makes me wonder why anyone would drink it! With a vodka chaser no less! Sounds more appropriate for paint removal ‘n that sort of thing. <yikes>
Any locomotive with "The Red Dragon" emblazoned on it's "nose" requires some elaboration!
Finally got to see the Cork ‘n Kerry mountains made famous by one of my favorite drinking songs . . . aren't they all <drinking songs, that is!> Anyway, a very picturesque scene indeed. The mind takes one back to times before highways ‘n the like. Probably shudda shot Farrell on the spot . . . <uh oh>
Sugar beet wagons almost look out of scale in comparison to the passenger coaches . . . color scheme "grabs" ya with those coaches.
Yeah, those flats definitely appear to be more north American than Brit or Euro.
Only the Brits could come up with loco's in that distinctive toy-like design. <although LGB has modeled quite a few German locos of similar design> Liked the spate - most interesting ‘n eye catching!
Shots of Buckfastleigh are top shelf! Tell us a bit about that steam roller contraption!
Otter fit in quite well in a not-so-subliminal attempt to grab the "inner self," or something like that . . .
Blood ‘n custard?!? Hmmmmm - pretty appropriate I'd say!
Many thanx for all the effort in putting together your foto-extravaganza on an otherwise slow Saturday. Five to our man Nick!
Page 4 - Eric <EricX2000> at 8:54 PM: We must be on the same mental wave length, for I was thinking of requesting some X2000 fotos from you. You have a treasure-troves-worth of ‘em ‘n it's past due for Posting ‘em at "Our" Place III.
By the by, X2000 definitely falls into the category of CLASSIC ‘round here. So, let ‘er rip, Mate!
Thanx for visit #2!
Page 4 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 9:33 PM <3:33 AM Sunday GMT>: The man is back to complete a trifecta on Saturday <Sunday where he resides!> <quad wow!> Must be an "off nite" for the band, either that or it's insomnia time at Nick's Haus! <grin>
Enjoy the remainder of the weekend, Mate!
Emporium Theatre selections up next . . .
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . March 30th thru April 5th: Anger Mangement (2003) Starring: Adam Sandler, Jack Nicholson, Marisa Tomei, Luis Guzmán & Jonathan Loughran - and - ENCORE PRESENTATION of Eight Men Out (1988) Starring: Jace Alexander, John Cusack & Gordon Clapp. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Monkey Businessmen (1946).
Anger Management (2003)
PLOT SUMMARY: Dave Buznik (Adam Sandler) is a businessman who works for a pet clothing company out of New York City. He's got an abrasive boss (Kurt Fuller) who frequently takes credit for his work and steps on him in return. He's got a loving girlfriend, Linda (Marisa Tomei), whose best friend is her condescending college ex, Andrew (Allen Covert). But when a misunderstanding aboard an airplane goes haywire, Dave is sentenced to anger management therapy, headed by Dr. Buddy Rydell (Jack Nicholson), who is an unpredictable, psychopathic character. "Goosfraba", an Eskimo word, is brought up in Dave's first anger management lesson to calm the group down. Buddy takes a special interest in his newest patient by virtually taking over his life - living with him, following him around, constantly tormenting and humiliating him, including embarrassing him in public, and reporting him to court every time he is involved with an injustice, with unjust accusations which an obnoxious judge keeps accusing him of herself. As the relationship between Dave and Buddy becomes more tense, it's Dave that may seriously need to look at himself, and Buddy might be the only one who can save him from a problem he recognizes right away in his patient, that could only get worse.
Dave Buznik (Adam Sandler) is a businessman who works for a pet clothing company out of New York City. He's got an abrasive boss (Kurt Fuller) who frequently takes credit for his work and steps on him in return. He's got a loving girlfriend, Linda (Marisa Tomei), whose best friend is her condescending college ex, Andrew (Allen Covert). But when a misunderstanding aboard an airplane goes haywire, Dave is sentenced to anger management therapy, headed by Dr. Buddy Rydell (Jack Nicholson), who is an unpredictable, psychopathic character. "Goosfraba", an Eskimo word, is brought up in Dave's first anger management lesson to calm the group down. Buddy takes a special interest in his newest patient by virtually taking over his life - living with him, following him around, constantly tormenting and humiliating him, including embarrassing him in public, and reporting him to court every time he is involved with an injustice, with unjust accusations which an obnoxious judge keeps accusing him of herself. As the relationship between Dave and Buddy becomes more tense, it's Dave that may seriously need to look at himself, and Buddy might be the only one who can save him from a problem he recognizes right away in his patient, that could only get worse.
Eight Men Out (1988)
PLOT SUMMARY: Eight Men Out is an American dramatic sports film, released in 1988, based on 8 Men Out, published in 1963, by Eliot Asinof. It was written and directed by John Sayles.It is a dramatization of Major League Baseball's 1919 Black Sox scandal, in which eight members of the Chicago White Sox conspired with gamblers to intentionally lose the World Series. Much of the movie was filmed at the old Bush Stadium in Indianapolis, Indiana. <from: wikipedia.com>John Cusack (Con Air) and Charlie Sheen (Major League) lead a "superb ensemble of actors" (Newsweek) delivering "striking performances" (The New York Times) in this "mesmerizing story" (Los Angeles Times) about the infamous 1919 Chicago White Sox scandal, certainly one of the saddest chapters in the annals of professional sports. Buck Weaver (Cusack) and Hap Felsch (Sheen) are young idealistic players with the Chicago White Sox, a pennant-winning team owned by Charles Comiskey Â- a penny-pinching, hands-on manager who underpays his players and treats them with disdain. And when gamblers and hustlers discover that Comiskey's demoralized players are ripe for a money-making scheme, one by one the team members agree to throw the World Series. But when the White Sox are defeated, a couple of sports writers smell a fix and a national scandal explodes, ripping the cover off America's favorite pastime. <from: amazon.com> SHORT: The Three Stooges - Monkey Businessmen (1946)
Eight Men Out is an American dramatic sports film, released in 1988, based on 8 Men Out, published in 1963, by Eliot Asinof. It was written and directed by John Sayles.It is a dramatization of Major League Baseball's 1919 Black Sox scandal, in which eight members of the Chicago White Sox conspired with gamblers to intentionally lose the World Series. Much of the movie was filmed at the old Bush Stadium in Indianapolis, Indiana. <from: wikipedia.com>John Cusack (Con Air) and Charlie Sheen (Major League) lead a "superb ensemble of actors" (Newsweek) delivering "striking performances" (The New York Times) in this "mesmerizing story" (Los Angeles Times) about the infamous 1919 Chicago White Sox scandal, certainly one of the saddest chapters in the annals of professional sports. Buck Weaver (Cusack) and Hap Felsch (Sheen) are young idealistic players with the Chicago White Sox, a pennant-winning team owned by Charles Comiskey Â- a penny-pinching, hands-on manager who underpays his players and treats them with disdain. And when gamblers and hustlers discover that Comiskey's demoralized players are ripe for a money-making scheme, one by one the team members agree to throw the World Series. But when the White Sox are defeated, a couple of sports writers smell a fix and a national scandal explodes, ripping the cover off America's favorite pastime.
It is a dramatization of Major League Baseball's 1919 Black Sox scandal, in which eight members of the Chicago White Sox conspired with gamblers to intentionally lose the World Series. Much of the movie was filmed at the old Bush Stadium in Indianapolis, Indiana. <from: wikipedia.com>
<from: amazon.com>
SHORT: The Three Stooges - Monkey Businessmen (1946)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges are electricians who are fired after messing up a job. They decide to go away for a long rest and check into Doc Mallard's Rest Home and Clinic. The Stooges soon learn that Doc Mallard is a quack and his clinic is designed to gyp people out of their money. The boys escape from the mad doctor and cure a man's bum foot in the process, resulting in a $1,000 reward.
The Stooges are electricians who are fired after messing up a job. They decide to go away for a long rest and check into Doc Mallard's Rest Home and Clinic. The Stooges soon learn that Doc Mallard is a quack and his clinic is designed to gyp people out of their money. The boys escape from the mad doctor and cure a man's bum foot in the process, resulting in a $1,000 reward.
Enjoy the weekend! Tom
Good Sunday afternoon everyone. Just in to clean off the desk as it were. Boris why is Spike on my desk,Oh you think he'll make a fine paperwieght just put him in his pen.Anyway sorry gents it's been a busy typr weekend ( one I had off ) so the bride and I were everywhere and anywhere. if I see another antique shop I think I'll have to hurt somebody(He grabs one of Nicks new shots and bloody near goes bind) note to self don't listen to anything Boris or Leon recomends
Tom-Sorry to see you have to man the fort almost single handedly this weekend. Great stuff though loved the KCS material and the drumheads.This weeks movies seem to be good choices as well.I lkove both of them
Are you sure that we have black belts or are they just ouir white belts hoplessly stained with the choc pudding from Molly's pit As a nice touch she allows Boris to clean out the pit at the end of each session so don't accept anything made with chocolate from him
Eric-Some fine photo's, even got your own mugg in the one I see To answer your question I moved the layout simply because I moved so down it went. the new one's not even remotely ready to be photogenic yet.[sign] Procrastination with a capitol "P" I tell you <uh oh >
Pete-Some fine fine steam photo's the last couple days sir loved them all. I haven't taken any shots of those bridges in their new home ( trainclub I once belonged to )I should get down there one day but I never seem to get the right days off.Love the big brit Pacific's,I think the "semis" are my faovourite though as I've never been one to really love streamlinning on steam engines.
English Elelctri sold a few loco's to the CNR ( electrics ) for the Mount Royal line in ML and the original electrification of the Sarnia GT tunnels.I aggree with you though all in house design provides for a better quality product at the end.
Nick-Fine pile o pictures sir ( yes even the otter ) did you throw some shellfish to him or her No Boris we don't need another mascot,the pens in your shed smell bad enough
Loved the shots of that raised passenger plateform and station with teh boardwalk underneath.I can almost smell the fish n chips,mingling with the sents of the railroad.You and Pete did save the day yesterday 5x for both of you. a pint or two for each of you on me the next time your in.
Rob
Howdy folks just back again. Here are the photo's ( some of them ) that I was going to spring on everyone yesterday. These are shots of the "G" cars the day they arrived at the musuem in the summer of 1991. And definatly before they got "tagged" this past fall.
Leon, it`s now 1.10pm on Monday 31st March here in NZ, so please fill the glasses` with the ever usual Tui`s for a very special toast to our great mate LARS on his Birthday today!
LARS. A VERY TO YOU MY FRIEND! Have a really great day today and have lots of everything thats good. You are greatly missed here, thats for sure!
To Tom, Eric, Pete, CM3, Rob and Nick, nice lot of loco pics from you all, and all the info too. Have to go up to Napier again tomorrow, Tuesday here, so will acknowledge all your great posts` on Wednesday.
See if I can squeeze this message through the slot. Yeah!
Early morning March 31st,Happy Birthday to Lars, Our Manager Emeritus!!!
Hope you will have a Great Day!!!! Ruth is waiting for you!!!
Nick – Atmospheric railway, that sounds interesting. Using vacuum!? Hmmm. I think I am glad we have the kind of trains we have today. You posted quite a few more pictures yesterday! Very interesting! Thanks for the extra Compton Down Railway photos! Wish I had a similar one in my backyard! Tom – You almost forgot about cheese!? A very good reason to go to Wisconsin and North Freedom! I’m scanning some more of my photos of the X2000 so there will be some in a near future. Below is one you have seen before. Anger Management. Never heard about that movie, but I’ll be happy to see it and Eight Men Out. And, of course, the Three Stooges!Rob – Capital P or not, I am sure your layout will be very nice in the future! Everything takes its time. Thanks for the photos of the “G” car arriving to the museum! Do they still look like they did after they were tagged?Allan – Good to see you, you are certainly well ahead of us! I’ll see you again on Wednesday!X2000 heading for Santa Barbara, CA. July, 1993.
Now, the party can start!!! All drinks on me this special day!
Only 45 days until Our Place 3rd Annual Rendezvous!
A smile to begin the week!
When pushing the chocolate drink Yoo -Hoo, he was asked, "Is Yoo-Hoo hyphenated?" He said, "No ma'am , it isn't even carbonated!"
Monday has rolled ‘round once again for the start of a new work week <for many>. A nice way to put a jump in your start is to spend a bit of time here at the Watering Hole by the Wayside - begin by filling up your coffee mug, grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! That should do it!
Watched quite a few college NCAA round-ball games over the past several days ‘n must say that I still "have it" for basketball - BUT only when the games are meaningful. I'm a Tar Heals fan - have been for decades ‘n really don't know why! <grin> The Celtics-Suns pro game of a few days back was a gudun too. Reminded me of the old days when the guys from Boston were always on top.
TODAY! March 31st (Lars - 68) - Gone but not forgotten!
Sunday - March 30th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 4 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 5:20 PM ‘n 5:45 PM: A most appreciated duo of Sunday visits from our Manager!
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do - not to worry, weekends are for wives to drag hubbies ‘round by the rings on their noses! <ooooooops> But, the "trade off" - well, this IS a family Thread, eh <grin>
Spate of four museum fotos look super-fine - thanx!
Page 4 - Allan <Gunneral> at 7:25 PM <1:25 PM Monday NZ time>: Another surprise in the form of a visit from our Resident Downunder NZ Kiwi Connection! Not bad for a day when we're closed . . . but ALWAYS welcome "thru the slot."
Monday - March 31st: <all times Central daylite>
Page 4 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:50 AM: The beginning of the Anger Management movie pretty much says it all - "XXX happens" in life. It's a rather funny flick, worth the view.
We'll be looking forward to some X2000 fotos - the more the betterER!
Always liked that shot in SoCal . . . I've seen that spot a few times - but from the highway. Spent more than a few occasions in that area back in 1986-88.
Springing for the drinks on Lars' B'day, eh Well, that's a most generous thing to do!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Morning Ruth , my my there's a spring in your step today ( wonder why ) and she's in her tightest and brightest out fit too Methinks Leon may be comming in early today,can't be sure thoughAnyhow if you can pul your self off the ceiling I'll have my usual number three and a thermos of teh high octane BK blast
First and foremost wishes for the Larsman always in the forefront of all our collective minds
Eric-Well capitol P or not it will rise again,thanks for your confidence ( it just may rise once I'm retired though <uh oh > ) hey at least by that point all the equipment will be antique's Love that shot from Santa Barabara
The G cars got a quick re-paint over the tagging,more work still needs to be done to them but at least the big pufy blue scrawlling is gone,I'd love to get my hands on those lil buggers but I digress.
Tom-Sure felt like a nose ring The scary thing is seeing alot of things that we have thrown out over the years and the prices they now command at the antique shops I couldda retired twice over at thirty
Good to hear that the wife didn't have to walk or swim home,on the upsside I think spring might almost be hear. It supposed to be sixty degres tomorrow ( and rain )
Allan-Good to see you in last night ( morning for you ) still the heck out of me but no matter. I hope the chimmny repair wasn't too awfull and that no unwanted critters moved in while they were doing it. No boris you can't keep any critters they find in there you have enough.
I think Tom Boris and Leon need two walks in the gorge on Sunday's <sheesh>
Anyhow folks I'll have to grab the thermos and run the punch clock beckons.
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. The telegraph line to the outside has been restored and it is working. Every time I hear that the "computers will be down," I think of the Titanic. We are still in our weather of perpetually cloudy, sleet, maybe some rain, etc.
Let's see what we have this morning.
First off; Happy Birthday to Manager Emeritus, Lars.
Pete visited with lots of information and a trip report. "Unpatched" SP engines are getting scarcer and scarcer, but there will be a few that will probably escape the net for awhile longer. This happened down here as we got power lettered for Atlanta & West Point (fascinating operation) and Western Maryland roaming the area long after those roads had been swallowed up in the great CSX absorption. Enjoyed the South Devon pictures, and the Merchant Navy 4-6-2 as well. Eric provided a good answer re the Kodachrome color scheme. SP and ATSF both had power in those colors for the merger that never was.
Nick was by with extensive comments and a fine selection of pictures - enjoyed them, sir!
Allan - Glad that the links worked. We did chimney stuff about two yrs ago as part of our monstrous five-phase house project. We still have a phase to go which is already scehduled. Would have been done sooner expcept for a new sewer line (ALWAYS, ALWAYS, on our side of the property line - SNARGH!) and then a water heater which decided to expire.
Eric - I searched all over for Travelers Rest interior shots, but obviously not in the right places. Buffalo to Cincinnati is not all that round about; go to Cleveland and turn left; it was all NYC track from Buffalo to Cincinnati b4 the train was handed off to the Southern. Nice 4-6-0 pictures. One of the prettiest steam locomotives ever, IMHO, was an SP&S 10-wheeler.
Rob - Baldwin and Lima both built their own diesels.
BLW products were incredibly durable and when properly treated would pull just about anything. Exception, of course, being their Centipede, which was a mechanic's nightmare, although it did well enough when maintained. NdeM, PRR, and SAL had Centipedes. Last Baldwins I saw running were on the Lehigh Valley. They also had road units (Sharks) in a variety of configurations.
Lima Hamilton was another story.
NYC had Lima road switchers, and PRR had Lima transfer locomotives.
Some of these models did fairly well while others were not really powerful enough to "do the needful." NYC had some which operated in commuter service near the city and also in passenger service in the Boston area; they were just now strong enough to get the job done.
Lima switchers were owned by the following: Cincinnati Union Terminal. NYC (CR&I), Rock Island, Armco Steel, B&O, Erie, NKP, TP&W, NYNH&H, TRRA, and Wabash.
Know what you mean re tagging.
OSP has visited us with a nice selection of drumheads and heralds. He also sent pictures. The C&O 2-6-6-2 was commonly used on mine shifters and lasted a long time in active service.
KCS material was good to see again. Some of their trains were short as they originated in diefferent places and then were combined. Somewhere on the 2nd thread resides all of the KCS stuff I did awhile back; it's in there.
Nice choice of movies; "Eight Men Out" is a keeper. So is the book.
As an aside, I think you'll find the "Builder" several cuts above what you are used to traveling.
E-mail rec'd and I'm "thinking in my mind" about your remarks.
Work safe
Fine start to this Monday morning with Rob 'n CM3 Shane dropping by . . . nice way to begin the week!
For all in receipt of my "core" Email . . . there is no "requirement" to respond. Appreciate the responses received AND also for including the "core" in the address. Thanx!
Good news! RR BOOK RELAY 2007-08 is en route my haus from New Zealand! Covered some ground - Jefferson City, MO to Chesterfield, MO to Staten Island, NY to Chesterfield, MO to Berkley, WV to Phoenix, AZ to Waipukurau, New Zealand en route Chesterfield, MO.
Now Arriving on Track Number One
Heralds - Drumheads - Ads - Covers 'n Stuff #2
Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Railway
The Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway (AAR reporting marks ATSF), often abbreviated as Santa Fe, was one of the largest railroads in the United States. The company was first chartered in February 1859. Although the railway was named in part for the capital of New Mexico, its main line never reached there as the terrain made it too difficult to lay the necessary tracks (Santa Fe was ultimately served by a branch line from Lamy, New Mexico). The Santa Fe's first tracks reached the Kansas/Colorado state line in 1873, and connected to Pueblo, Colorado in 1876. In order to help fuel the railroad's profitability, the Santa Fe set up real estate offices and sold farm land from the land grants that the railroad was awarded by Congress; these new farms would create a demand for transportation (both freight and passenger service) that was, quite conveniently, offered by the Santa Fe.
Ever the innovator, Santa Fe was one of the pioneers in intermodal freight service, an enterprise that (at one time or another) included a tugboat fleet and an airline, the short-lived Santa Fe Skyway. A bus line allowed the company to extend passenger transportation service to areas not accessible by rail, and ferry boats on the San Francisco Bay allowed travellers to complete their westward journeys all the way to the Pacific Ocean. The Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway officially ceased operations on December 31, 1996 when it merged with the Burlington Northern Railroad to form the Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway. <from: wikipedia.com>
Southern Pacific Railroad
The Southern Pacific Railroad (AAR reporting marks SP) was an American railroad. The railroad was founded as a land holding company in 1865, forming part of the Central Pacific Railroad empire. Southern Pacific's total route mileage has varied significantly over the years. In 1929, the system showed 13,848 miles (22,286 km) of track (in contrast to 8,991 miles (14,470 km) of track in 1994). By 1900, the Southern Pacific Company had grown into a major railroad system which incorporated many smaller companies, such as the Texas and New Orleans Railroad and Morgan's Louisiana and Texas Railroad, and which extended from New Orleans through Texas to El Paso, across New Mexico and through Tucson, to Los Angeles, throughout most of California including San Francisco and Sacramento; it absorbed the Central Pacific Railroad extending eastward across Nevada to Ogden, Utah and had lines reaching north throughout and across Oregon to Portland.
On August 9, 1988, the Interstate Commerce Commission approved the purchase of the Southern Pacific by Rio Grande Industries, the company that controlled the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad. The Rio Grande officially took control of the Southern Pacific on October 13, 1988. After the purchase, the combined railroad kept the Southern Pacific name due to its brand recognition in the railroad industry and with customers of both constituent railroads. The Southern Pacific subsequently was taken over by the Union Pacific Railroad in 1996 following years of financial problems. The railroad is also noteworthy for being the defendant in the landmark 1886 United States Supreme Court case Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad which is often interpreted as having established certain corporate rights under the Constitution of the United States. <from: wikipedia.com>
Union Pacific Railroad
The Union Pacific Railroad (AAR reporting marks UP UPY)headquartered in Omaha, Nebraska, is the largest railroad network in the United States. James R. Young is president, CEO and Chairman.
UP's route map covers most of the central and western United States west of Chicago and New Orleans. As of 2005, UP operates on 32,426 miles (52,185 km) of track, of which it owns outright 26,949 miles (43,370 km), both numbers representing the highest amount of any railroad currently operating in the United States. It has achieved this size thanks to purchasing a large number of other railroads, notably the Missouri Pacific, Chicago and North Western, Western Pacific, Missouri-Kansas-Texas, and the Rio Grande (including the Southern Pacific). Currently, Union Pacific owns 26% of Ferromex while Grupo Mexico owns the remaining 74%.
UP's chief railroad competitor is the BNSF Railway, which covers much of the same territory.
The Union Pacific Railroad was incorporated on July 1, 1862 in the wake of the Pacific Railroad Act of 1862. Under the guidance of its dominant stockholder Thomas C. Durant the first rails were laid in Omaha, Nebraska. They were part of the railroads that came together at Promontory Summit, Utah, in 1869 as the first transcontinental railroad in North America. Subsequently, UP took over the Utah Central extending south from Ogden, Utah, through Salt Lake City, and the Utah & Northern, extending from Ogden through Idaho into Montana, and it built or absorbed local lines that gave it access to Denver and to Portland, Oregon, and the Pacific Northwest. It acquired the Kansas Pacific (originally called the Union Pacific, Eastern Division, though in essence a separate railroad). It also owned narrow gauge trackage into the heart of the Colorado Rockies and a standard gauge line south from Denver across New Mexico into Texas. <from: wikipedia.com>
Missed the first one Scroll back to Page 2 . . .
In a bit early todayas they are forecasting bad weather here later this afternoon.
A pint of Holden's and a round please RUTH, to celebrate Senior Manager Lars. As Allan says you are greatly missed, but you know the door of the bar is always open to you and your stool is waiting and you will be very if you do get the chance to call in and see us at anytime
TOM. Great to talk to you and a good Saturday afternoon and evening at the bar.
It seems to me whether the glass is half full or half empty depends on whose round it is next
Glad you enjoyed the steam locomotives at Rainhill. Many thanks for those great North American steam locomotives; they seem to portray well the sense of power. The USRA 2-8-2 is quite a good looking locomotive where these the ones built in wartime.
Another good week at the Emporium. Anger Management sounds a good film with Jack Nicholson. We have talked about the 1919 White SOX scandal at the bar and it would be good to see the film Eight Men Out of it. Of course the Stooges as well.
I see the book is heading back to Missouri, as well as the places it has visited in the relay it has traveled across the Atlantic from England as well, as you say a well-traveled book. The black bag will be getting jealous.
Many thanks for the next part of the Heralds, Drumheads, Ads, covers and stuffTwo railroads that have merged and one that has kept the same name from its beginning. The Santa Fe certainly saw the future with its introduction of the intermodel service.
The amount of track the UP operates now after the mergers really is staggering. It was a good idea of UP to paint 6 of it's new diesels in the colors of the fallen flags.
Hope the bad weather they are forecasting does not reach your area.
ERIC I have tried to find a list of the locomotives that appeared at Rainhill but have had no luck yet. It was a friend of mine I went to Rainhill with who took the photos as my camera failed on the day and I seem to remember my friend had problems with his as well. There were some diesels in the cavalcade and at least one electric locomotive, which was towed.
While doing the Rainhill photos I remember why the replica Rocket was not in the cavalcade the day we were there, it was that it had slipped off the track in the Bold Colliery sidings and if I recall right one of the consists that a diesel was hauling in the cavalcade was a breakdown crane which was used to put Rocket back on the track the loco suffering no or very little damage
Thanks for the info on the Kodachrome livery, It makes one wonder what companies there would be running the U.S. trains today if the Santa Fe and SP merger had been allowed to go ahead.
Great set of photos from North Freedom WI. They have a couple of good-looking 4-6-0s there. I wonder where that Diesel #5 went to and many thanks for the X2000 photos, I will look forward to the ones you are scanning. Many thanks for the beers today.
Talking about getting a photo of the SP diesel on my trip Wednesday, an Our Place coincedence this small SP diesel although with UP numbers, was in the yard here Saturday.
NICK Many thanks for those great photos. I see in first one the footbridge in Totnes station looks fairly new so it could have the work seen in my earlier photo of No 4588 at the station.
Good photo of the class 153 DMUs at Dawlish these units seem popular in Devon and Cornwall, although I read recently that they were going to re-introduce the 4-wheel Pacer units back on to the branch lines in the area despite them not doing too well the first time, mainly on the tight curves on the branches.
Great photo of 5051 leaving Fishguard Harbour it must have been a great sound as well lifting the 10-coach train on a greasy rail.
Glad you were able to capture the beet wagons in your photo and those flats do have a North American look about them. Yes we were not able to find out what that narrow gauge locomotive at Portmadoc (WHR) is. I wonder if perhaps it could have been a visiting engine from a mainland Europe preserved line.
Yes we are very fortunate that those two magnificent S&D 2-8-0s found their way to Barry scrapyard and were able to be saved.
Liked the shots from Buckfastleigh I guess the otters in the sanctuary are used to cameras now, I think that was the area that inspired Henry Williamson to write his Tarka The Otter book. Yes it seems a lot of preserved railways in the UK have taken the Stones song to heart and have Paint(ed) it Black. It is strange how black does really suit some locomotive classes and not others but I have to admit a clean black engine really goes well with Blood and Custard coaches.
They are great models and scenery on the Compton Down Railway.
ROB Thanks for the kind words and the pints. The LMS No. 46229 Duchess of Hamilton in the photo is at the present having a streamlined casing fitted to her so she will be in as built condition; the casing was removed from the Duchesses soon after WWII. When it is done 46229 is due to be exhibited in the NRM at York alongside the A4 Mallard.
It was interesting about those English Electric locomotives for the Mount Royal line, do you know if there are any photos of them at work there.
Many thanks for the photos of the G cars. They are the ones that were built by Metro Cammell if I recall correctly. It seems as though the who done the vandalism have not been caught yet.
ALLAN Thanks for the kind words and I shall look forward to your post Wednesday. Another good win for the TOON this weekend.
CM3 Yes that is the first SP diesel still with the SP number I have seen for a while, but as in the photo earlier that is the first smaller SP diesel, although with UP numbers, I can recall seeing here.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. The Merchant Navy class has some very attractive nameplates; in the center of the plate, was the shipping company's name around the outside with the flag of the company in the center. There were right hand and left hand plates so the flag appeared to be flying towards the rear of the locomotive.
Many thanks for the info on the Baldwin and Lima diesels
It seem as though the storms are rolling in so I will have another of Eric's Beers please RUTH.
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Ruth my deAH, ‘tis YOUR man - the Larsman ‘n I see you're ready for our <ahem> admin work . . . Nice to see that you've "dressed for the occasion." <blush> Sure would like a frosty cold stein of Shaefer . . .
Figured I'd bettAH stop by today, for I KNEW our Cap'n wouldn't let the B'day pass without ensuring a bit of recognition. Many thanks to youse guyz for the B'day greetings. At this stage of life - I'm not counting the years, they just seem to make the cake top heavy (with candles)!! <grin>
Boris, I know that Eric has set up the bar on his tab - but ring the bell ‘n make sure that the guyz get topped off a few times on me! Yeah, that's a century note . . . put the change in the party fund, after Ruth gets her tip of course! And of course, grab yourself a LARGE jar of PPF - but make sure the crittAHs get some vittles in the form of treats for Awk (seed tray) - Frostbite (bucket of ice cubes) - Spike (tree bark) - Artie (field mouse - out on the back porch PULEEZE) ‘n Juneau (chew bone). Oooooops, can't forget Tex ‘n his saucer of brine from the pickle barrel.
Speaking of which - let me have a couple of those extra crunch LARGE pickles along with a special hero sandwich <on hard bread!> of ham ‘n Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH. Ummmmmmm - been awhile . . . .
Really have enjoyed the new thread ‘n congratulate all of you for keeping the place operating. In my discussion with Da Bossman, it has been an uphill struggle at times, but youse guyz are keeping things going. That certainly sez some good things about our stalwarts (as Da Bossman likes to say!>.
Without a doubt I've missed this place 'n the fine crew that man's those stools. Wish I could participate in the manner of days past . . . just doesn't look very promising. But I do appreciate the well wishes from my friends 'n you all need to KNOW how much your words mean to me. I know you MEAN 'em . . .
Life around my hut has been pretty much relegated to a routine of taking care of mama bear, which is no big deal, especially now that she's been put on a treatment schedule that seems to have stabilized the worst of things. I'm so happy to report that the dizziness ‘n stumbling (falling too) has been treated successfully. Apparently it all had to do with female "things" - hormones or whatever. Anyway, a new definition to "dizzy broad" . . . she's at least over that portion of all that has gone wrong these past several months. I wasn't going to put this up at the bar, but figured, "why not??" It's just us guyz ‘n I don't particularly give a rat's patoot about those who "peek in" to ‘take' rather than give . . . do you Thought not!
Noticed that the "hits" are approaching 1,000 for the reborn-reborn bar. But then again, if you check out the visits we've amassed at bar #1 ‘n #2 - my guess is we're close to half a million. Now THAT's something for a relatively small group of DEDICATED bar flies!
5- to Pete, Eric, Shane, Rob, Allan ‘n Nick - youse guyz deserve ‘em! And of course Da Bossman is included in those accolades!
Wish I could "hang" a bit longAH - but really can't. Also very sorry that my visit has to be reduced to something far less than an inclusive offering. <groan>
Gotta go "fetch" the Mrs. in about 20 minutes. She has daily appointments - but fortunately, they are fairly close to the hut. Then there's some home treatments, etc. Life is "different" these days - and that's putting it mildly. But not to be concerned boyz - it could be worse. I'm just thankful she's still with me ‘n my family. So we "does what we does" to ensure her well being. Ain't that what this thing called marriage is supposed to be about Youbetchaboots!
I'll be here on April the 12th for our 3rd Year Anniversary and hope each of you will too. It will be a successful day IF we can get our "regulars" to show up during the daytime . . . that would pretty much be like old times, huh
Santa Fe - Streamlined observation cars
Santa Fe - Locomotive development
The Sunset Limited
Southern Pacific Daylight Locomotives
Union Pacific Diesels
The Challenger Locomotives
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Let's GO Mets! <this IS next year!>
See ALL of youse guyz on the 12th . . . .
Lars
Heard SENIOR MANAGER LARS had called in and was buying the drinks(I can smell a free beer a mile away) so I had to call back in. No I won't say a thing about your rosy red glow RUTH.
Really glad the dizziness problem as been sorted out with your better half and I know she is in very good hands.
Many thanks for the kind words,it is indeed remarkable how TOM's bar as attracted like minded folks who love to talk classic trains with some humour thrown in.
Many Thanks for those great book covers to compliment Tom' post this morning. On my trip to Kansas City last week, passing through a town there was a van parked near the track with BOOKMOBILE written above the windshild and I immediatly though of you.
Really Great to see you in the bar and have a .
HEY THERE ITS -THE LARSMAN !!!!
Many happy returns old mate-it`s mighty fine to see you,albeit briefly-sounds like you are sailing some pretty turbulent waters just now-few things worse than seeing one`s life partner suffering and needless to say all our thoughts are with you both-at risk of sounding like more of a dippy hippy than I am,the best advice I can offer is STAY POSITIVE !!-not all of lifes little suprises are bad......
Any time you are passing,drop in for a brew or three and if you feel the need to howl at the moon or otherwise unload,drop me an E-mail-more than happy to be a sounding board and offer any advice I can-
Anyway,grab the best of the day mate and all the best to you both.............
Nick
Time to catch up on the Posts ‘n get a leg up on the acknowledgments . . . Really nice turn-out for Lars' B'day . . . thanx to all!
Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):
Page 5 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:48 AM: Nice round of chat from our Manager - returned from a busy personal weekend. Best kind, eh
Page 5 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:24 AM: Cards opener got rained out with the Birds in the lead at that. <ugh> They never should have played it to begin with - forecast was for precisely what happened ‘n considering Tuesday was supposed to be an off day anyway . . . <geesh> So, they get a "re-do" tomorrow nite . . .
Thanx for the response to my Rendezvous III Email . . .
Computers "down" ‘n the Titantic - an interesting circuitry . . . hmmmmmm.
I've been told by more than a few Amtrak train folks that the Empire Builder is the ‘flag ship' of the fleet. I certainly hope so . . .
Yes, both "Our" Place I ‘n "Our" Place II contains zillions of bits ‘n bytes regarding KCS ‘n many other fallen flag passenger roads . . . certainly worth seeking out.
Page 5 - Pete <pwolfe> at 1:47 PM: Don't know what it is about thunder storms ‘n ‘puters, but I'm guessing you expect a "zap" if at the keyboard. Better safe than sorry, eh I generally secure all the electronics ‘round here when things are forecast for the severe . . .
Some links for the USRA 2-8-2 locos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USRA_Heavy_Mikado
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USRA_Light_Mikado
Yeah, when you crank in the fact that "the book" began it's "life" in the UK, it surely has traveled the world, eh
Another fine < > Post - great for eavesdropping! Three good snaps too . . .
Page 5 - Lars <LoveDomes> at 2:43 PM: Hoped we'd see you on YOUR B'day ‘n you didn't disappoint! The guys have asked about you quite often ‘n there's little doubt you remain part of the make-up of this place of OURS!
A fine spate of fotos that do indeed go quite well with my morning offering of this ‘n that . . . thanx! That's the way things used to operate ‘round here - someone dropped off a topic ‘n others picked up on it. Wish we'd see more of that . . .
As discussed by fone - some encouraging news from the homefront. Hope things remain heading in that direction. Got a laff outta your remark about "dizzy broad" - still smiling in fact.
Regarding the "hits" at the bar: Pete ‘n I have discussed this so many times with pretty much the same conclusion. Only a small percentage of those frequenting these Forums are "into" the things we like to do ‘n the way we like to do ‘em. The numbers suggest all kinds of theories - but there's no point in dwelling on it.
April 12th, being a Saturday, surely shouldn't pose a problem to the working guys - I mean who works the entire 24 hours I'm hoping too that we'll get our regulars to appear during the daytime hours - that would be fun. Perhaps even get some "real time" exchanges going . . .
Thanx for the well wishes . . . I had planned on taking "off" the afternoon, as today is ALSO a Natal Day in my Haus. Just returned from dinner with my "older" better half! <uh oh> No, no, no - not older than Moi - but older today than yesterday <in years!>
Page 5 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 4:13 PM <22:13 PM GMT>: Most warm greetings to our Manager Emeritus on his Natal Day! Nicely done . . .
See y'all in the ‘morrow . . .
Well gents,like my fellow Brit PETE,I too will happily wade through knee-deep floods for a free half of shandy with a bag of nuts thrown in ( I`m a cheap date but great value for money ) so-Leon,set`em up me old mate and lets get stuck in-last man standing please turn off the lights..........
As usual,just when I am trying to catch up we have a rush on -for every post I answer 2 new ones come in-and so much good stuff-just gonna try for a random selection tonight so please dont be offended if I dont manage to touch all bases.....
Here we are back at Portmadoc,at the W.H.R depot (apart from top left ,which is Newcastle Emlyn )-the common thread is the vans,which all appear to be from the former Royal Navy armament depot not far from here-the giveaway being the roof hatches which were used to lower sea mines into the vehicles
A selection from Didcot (home of the Great Western Society )-also a busy junction with a big freight consumer in the form of the local power station-Wisconsin Central colours and G.M power much in evidence
More Welsh slim line-the first of the "Great little trains of Wales" to be preserved-to the general public they are `Tal-Y-Lyn`(L) & `Dolgoch` (R) -to those of us who grew up with Thomas the tank engine (and I learned to read with those delightful little volumes) they will always be Skarloey & Rheneas-the little old engines from Edwards branch line-for my money Tal-Y-Lyn is one of the most photogenic engines I have seen-145 years old and still doing the biz
Right back again-sorry about that,had a bit of a `moment` there-must be all the celebrations going on,for `tis my lil sisters as well-as we speak ,she and Fabio ( her Sicilian "businessman" gentleman friend ) are no doubt painting the town red- a faintly worrying scenario ....Right ,to work you lazy hippy................
ROB-must confess I am in two camps with the `tagging` issue-for the post Orwellian concrete nightmares that pass for cities in these days of madness,I can admire it as `urban art`-however,when applied to lovingly restored old vehicles we move rapidly into electrodes on nipples territory.....................................
CM3- Glad you enjoyed the pix mate -Now,ongoing building work-it`s up there with death,taxes & lost data as the great constants in this life-I shall say no more
TOM--Many happy returns to Carol-21 again -have a wonderful day dear lady-and many more to come.........Now then-can there be a more iconic image than a warbonnet F-unit ????-how many of the millions of train sets produced every year have an F7 in that oh-so-classy livery on the point ?????????-----Although I am very taken with that K.C.S mostly black scheme.........Sad to say,George Dixon is unlikely to ever wear the uniform of Mentor County-was a T.V show from the saturday nights of my earliest childhood-a forerunner of C.S.I wherever,suffice it to say that the good guys always won,the baddies always repented and we were all home in time for a warm milky drink before bedtime-and all in black & white
The Red Dragon (Draig Goch) used to be the principal train connecting west Wales with London-the dragon reference refers to the Welsh flag which features the aforementioned beast on a horizontally divided white & green background ( I suspect some reference to the druids sacred holly ( green leaves ) & misteltoe (white berries ) here)
ALLAN-Have a safe journey mate-catch up when you get back-looks like `The Toon` are starting to make it happen-2 in a row--most of my brothers-in-law are Spurs fans ,so mustn`t crow too loud
ERIC-As a feeder of 3 cats myself (one doesn`t own them as you do with dogs-they choose to allow you to take care of them.......hmmm)-full marks for doing the decent thing there mate -nuff said........that cab shot of you in the x2000 looks like they caught you off guard -a very sleek bit of kit there-and fine pix of stuff from back home over recent weeks-good job -Glad you enjoyed the Compton Down pix-is a cracking little line-you should see the mans workshop-built to the shape and proportion of a Tal-Y-Lyn passenger car but about 5 times bigger-treat
PETE-I do hope they dont bring the pacers back ANYWHERE-lets face it they are badly designed buses with train wheels and do the system no credit-although they seem to be popular on the new valley lines network out of Newport & Cardiff....would much rather watch a castle on full song-closest I have found on the W.H.R mystery engine is it looks like the Hunslet side tanks built for the R.O.D for use in Flanders circa 1916-18....doors still open on that one-perhaps one of our (apparently) many silent visitors could offer an opinion.....Thanks for putting me right on the Warship details-looks like I had two halves of an idea and both half wrong-about par for the course really..........Have seen `Paint it black` played live (as well as playing it ourselves a few dozen times ) and its a beauty-the tension between Keiths delicate melody and Charlie`s monster floor-tom based beat is quite something ( the other 50,000 people in the stadium seemed to be of the same mind....)
Right then chaps,as we seem to have slipped smoothly into all fools day I am tempted to evoke the ghost of DOUG and finish with a joke-sadly none of the ones I can call to mind are fit for mixed company so I shall sneak off to the pile of festering blankets that I call bed and love and leave you all .....
Take care now one and all,speak soon
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