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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 2, 2005 7:05 PM
Hello everybody. I'll take a Alexander's Ale, please. I have missed a lot and can't stay long. PBS is running like 4 hours of Great Railway Journeys tonight.
I returned home last night from 2 days of training for the freight railroad. They put me up in a motel and fed me for the time. The worst part was being away from the wife but if this works out I'll have more than truck driver to put on my resume.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 2, 2005 7:07 PM
Hello everybody. I'll take a Alexander's Ale, please. I have missed a lot and can't stay long. PBS is running like 4 hours of Great Railway Journeys tonight.
I returned home last night from 2 days of training for the freight railroad. They put me up in a motel and fed me for the time. The worst part was being away from the wife but if this works out I'll have more than truck driver to put on my resume.
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, June 2, 2005 7:08 PM
Well here`s a thing,I no sooner step through my front door than two officers of the R.C.M.P.,on special detatchment,are there to "escort" me to Milford Haven station where we are ushered aboard the only R.D.C.1 in R.C.M.P livery I`ve ever seen. This leaves the platform in the approved manner,then stops and reverses onto the former Royal Navy Armament Depot branch,into the tunnel under the bottom of town. It then drops down & right into the longest tunnel you can imagine before emerging between the Amtrak service area and Union Station on Can-Am land. I am then rushed by fast station-wagon to the Lotus Flower Motel,down near the freight depot,where I am being "protected from undue interference by witness` " prior to some manner of court appearance---I shall use this time to review posts,sleep,prepare whatever vaguely legal sounding arguments I can think of and try to devise a weekend special menu that uses all the fish I had ordered for F & C night before it became kangaroo court night,still numb from journey,back with proper stuff soon,regards to all,nick
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, June 2, 2005 8:35 PM
Evening all ........ whatillyahave? Hey - Nick's back along with earlydiesels - good seeing ya!

Suggest you both take a look at the SUMMARIES - they should catch you up in no time ......... earlydiesels When you get the chance, fill us in on the details - WHERE will you be working and for whom? ........ Nick I don't know what's going on with the RCMP, et al, but you will NOT be testifying before the Tribunal - so, I'm sending over a couple of the "boyz" to get you out of that place you're in. Must have been a mix up ........ Have a couple on me when you get here!

Enjoy the evening, guys - I hear some Johnny Cash coming from the Juke and it seems the pool tables are in constant use this Thursday evening. Fish 'n Chips night - my, my, isn't Boris jin fine shape this fine night? Even put on a "new" dirty apron, just for us ........

Before I forget, here's a bit of stuff about those LRC cars I rode between Montreal and Ottawa:

QUOTE: The LRC (Light, Rapid, Comfortable) was a joint project begun in the late 1960s by a consortium of Montreal Locomotive Works, Alcan and Dofasco. A demonstration train (one locomotive and coach) could be seen in Canada and the United States in 1973 and 1974. The LRC was the first train to incorporate successfully a banking system to increase speed and comfort around curves on conventional track.

Bombardier acquired MLW in 1975 and pushed ahead the LRC production model. Amtrak ordered ten coaches and two locomotives, and the LRC could be seen up and down the Northeast Corridor in the early 1980s. Up until the late 1990s, the Amtrak LRC coaches (in VIA paint) worked the Chicago-Toronto "International" service. In Canada the LRC had a tremendous impact. The LRC became the hallmark of VIA Rail Canada's improved Corridor services.

More than 20 years later, the LRC is still state-of-the-art technology, and one of only a handful of successful tilting trains in operation around the world.

Today almost all of VIA's original 100 LRC coaches are still in service.
from Rapido Trains Inc. web site




I'll catch up in tomorrow's SUMMARY .........

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, June 2, 2005 11:36 PM
Good evening everyone.All the book talk has indeed sent me to my collection to see if I could/can help out Ted's early railcar inquiries.The only references I have are from the Bytown Railway societies book on the Ottawa car Company.1892-1948. David G. Knowles author. This book shows shots with some text on every piece(class) of equipment they built over their tenure. Though primarily a streetcar/interurban/electric work equipment manufacturer, they did produce heavy weight passenger cars and an order of early Gas/electric railcars for the CNR built in 1931 these branchline railcars #9003-9010 were the forerunner of cn's RDC fleet one still exists at Delson Railway museum in Montreal.Suffice to say these cars are dead wringers for the doodle bugs built for US roads. Most were retired out in the mid fifties as they had poor mechanical reliability with the original gas motors/most were rebuilt later with a small diesel engine. This softcover is available from the Bytown society www.bytownrailwaysociety.ca There brachline magasune is a must for Canadian railfans as well. Tom if you like BCR RDC's try to get the BC book *** mentioned. It's the same size as Gregg Macdonnell's CPR book. The book is called the British Columbia Railway by J.F. Garden it was put out by FootprintPublishing Co of Revelstoke BC sorry no website listed for them. It was printed in '95 but I purchased my copy in 2000 they seem to be still readilly available up here. It covers BCR from it's PGE beginnings through to the mid nineties. Lots of steam early diesel(alcophiles paradice) and of coarse RDC's. Ted For Canadian videos. Greenfrog productions, GTVP,ray Nielson productions(though he is very ill so his video's may become scarce) and even the Trains series has done Two very good general purpose video's . Check our museum web site allot of good CDN videos traction and regular are listed there in the gift shop section.It will give you an idea of what's available. Well folks i'm off for now talk to you all later. Rob
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 8:38 AM
SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS
G'day all ...... Here we are at Friday again - tonight is Pizza night - the gals will be working (except for Ruthie) - steak & fries on the menu, along with our specials on the board under Nick's Picks. So, pull up a stool and enjoy! [tup] [;)]

To the posts:
QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 02 Jun 2005, 12:44:11
Good afternoon you all (that's Texan).

There is a second book of Morant's photos. It is called "Morant's Canada". Printed in the same format as his "Morant's Canadian Pacific". Both books are great! You can see why Canada's national anthum is titled "Oh Canada". Love the country.

CP says that Morant's negative of his snow photo of the Canadian at Morant's Curve is worn out and no additional photos can be pulled from it. I would love to have a copy, but I guess it is not to be. Tried to go to the point where Morant set up his camera to take the photo as in his book a large turnout area is there. A recent land slide has wiped out the turn out and you have to walk atleast 1/2 mile to get to his vantage point. At the point the highway department have put up concrete barriers and it is unsafe to be looking over the barriers at the curve. Darn!

All for now as I had better get back to work.

Just what I needed - MORE books! However, when it comes to Morant and his photo's - these are "must haves." [tup] [;)]

QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 02 Jun 2005, 16:48:38
Say, while awaiting the FINAL conclussions of the honorable Tribunal, I would like to "make so bold" as to request the generous patronage of Tom's "Our" Place/Provencial Court Room/"Associate Justices" Chambers/bistro extraordinaire/CanAm curio shop/photo dark room and table sports emporium [gasp]...where was I? Oh yes, might any of you chaps share your recommendations for video materials on Canadian, U.K. and U.S. roads? It seems there are a few coins remaining from my I.R.S. "refund" and there can be no better option than for educational/recreational items.

I have managed to "stockpile" more kits in HO than I can assemble in any reasonable time frame but my video (especially Canadian and U.K.) collection is particularly anaemic. Any references would be greatly appreciated and your trouble will bring tangible reward in the form of gratuitous 'rounds in return. As for the Eastern and Western Roads (U.S.), I am healthy, thanks just the same. The C.P. Banff, Kicking Horse Pass areas are touched-on in a few of the "Great Rail Journies" series. As is the final scheduled run of the coast-to-coast C.P. who's Host's name fails me for the moment (Journalist). No rush, anytime from now until this time yesterday will do nicely. lol

Speaking of "rounds!" Boris, while Tom is attending to civic matters, please let me "spring" for the house. Oh my stars and garters, he's going down stairs to the Well Spring. My error gentlemen. The girls are due presently, so all is "well" that ends 'well,' right? Oooh, "bad form!" When Tom returns, please hoist a shell for a "job well done" in appreciation for his "summaries," without which this thread would be no "thread a'tall. I know we all appreciate the time it takes to sort through these posts and do a "chronology," no easy thing. Just a little recognition for the "persona non grata" on the premises.

I like the title: Tom's "Our" Place/Provencial Court Room/"Associate Justices" Chambers/bistro extraordinaire/CanAm curio shop/photo dark room and table sports emporium .... might have a bit of trouble changing the sign out front. [tup] [;)]

Try this URL for books and videos: http://www.cprstore.com/store/books.htm#videos
If the CPR store doesn't have it, who will?

Again, thanx for the "vote of confidence" regarding the SUMMARIES .... nice to know they are being read. [tup] [;)]

QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 02 Jun 2005, 19:05:41
Hello everybody. I'll take a Alexander's Ale, please. I have missed a lot and can't stay long. PBS is running like 4 hours of Great Railway Journeys tonight.
I returned home last night from 2 days of training for the freight railroad. They put me up in a motel and fed me for the time. The worst part was being away from the wife but if this works out I'll have more than truck driver to put on my resume.

See response below ......... [tup] [;)]

QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 02 Jun 2005, 19:08:08
Well here`s a thing,I no sooner step through my front door than two officers of the R.C.M.P.,on special detatchment,are there to "escort" me to Milford Haven station where we are ushered aboard the only R.D.C.1 in R.C.M.P livery I`ve ever seen. This leaves the platform in the approved manner,then stops and reverses onto the former Royal Navy Armament Depot branch,into the tunnel under the bottom of town. It then drops down & right into the longest tunnel you can imagine before emerging between the Amtrak service area and Union Station on Can-Am land. I am then rushed by fast station-wagon to the Lotus Flower Motel,down near the freight depot,where I am being "protected from undue interference by witness` " prior to some manner of court appearance---I shall use this time to review posts,sleep,prepare whatever vaguely legal sounding arguments I can think of and try to devise a weekend special menu that uses all the fish I had ordered for F & C night before it became kangaroo court night,still numb from journey,back with proper stuff soon,regards to all, nick

Well, you never got back to us ........ however, see response below. [tup] [;)]

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jun 2005, 20:35:59
Evening all ........ whatillyahave? Hey - Nick's back along with earlydiesels - good seeing ya!

Suggest you both take a look at the SUMMARIES - they should catch you up in no time ......... earlydiesels When you get the chance, fill us in on the details - WHERE will you be working and for whom? ........ Nick I don't know what's going on with the RCMP, et al, but you will NOT be testifying before the Tribunal - so, I'm sending over a couple of the "boyz" to get you out of that place you're in. Must have been a mix up ........ Have a couple on me when you get here!

Enjoy the evening, guys - I hear some Johnny Cash coming from the Juke and it seems the pool tables are in constant use this Thursday evening. Fish 'n Chips night - my, my, isn't Boris in fine shape this fine night? Even put on a "new" dirty apron, just for us ........

Before I forget, here's a bit of stuff about those LRC cars I rode between Montreal and Ottawa:


The LRC (Light, Rapid, Comfortable) was a joint project begun in the late 1960s by a consortium of Montreal Locomotive Works, Alcan and Dofasco. A demonstration train (one locomotive and coach) could be seen in Canada and the United States in 1973 and 1974. The LRC was the first train to incorporate successfully a banking system to increase speed and comfort around curves on conventional track.

Bombardier acquired MLW in 1975 and pushed ahead the LRC production model. Amtrak ordered ten coaches and two locomotives, and the LRC could be seen up and down the Northeast Corridor in the early 1980s. Up until the late 1990s, the Amtrak LRC coaches (in VIA paint) worked the Chicago-Toronto "International" service. In Canada the LRC had a tremendous impact. The LRC became the hallmark of VIA Rail Canada's improved Corridor services.

More than 20 years later, the LRC is still state-of-the-art technology, and one of only a handful of successful tilting trains in operation around the world.

Today almost all of VIA's original 100 LRC coaches are still in service.
(from Rapido Trains Inc. web site)


I'll catch up in tomorrow's SUMMARY .........

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom (Siberianmo)


QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 02 Jun 2005, 23:36:17
Good evening everyone.

All the book talk has indeed sent me to my collection to see if I could/can help out Ted's early railcar inquiries.The only references I have are from the Bytown Railway societies book on the Ottawa car Company.1892-1948. David G. Knowles author. This book shows shots with some text on every piece(class) of equipment they built over their tenure. Though primarily a streetcar/interurban/electric work equipment manufacturer, they did produce heavy weight passenger cars and an order of early Gas/electric railcars for the CNR built in 1931 these branchline railcars #9003-9010 were the forerunner of cn's RDC fleet one still exists at Delson Railway museum in Montreal.Suffice to say these cars are dead wringers for the doodle bugs built for US roads. Most were retired out in the mid fifties as they had poor mechanical reliability with the original gas motors/most were rebuilt later with a small diesel engine. This softcover is available from the Bytown society www.bytownrailwaysociety.ca There brachline magasune is a must for Canadian railfans as well.

Tom if you like BCR RDC's try to get the BC book *** mentioned. It's the same size as Gregg Macdonnell's CPR book. The book is called the British Columbia Railway by J.F. Garden it was put out by FootprintPublishing Co of Revelstoke BC sorry no website listed for them. It was printed in '95 but I purchased my copy in 2000 they seem to be still readilly available up here. It covers BCR from it's PGE beginnings through to the mid nineties. Lots of steam early diesel(alcophiles paradice) and of coarse RDC's.

Ted For Canadian videos. Greenfrog productions, GTVP,ray Nielson productions(though he is very ill so his video's may become scarce) and even the Trains series has done Two very good general purpose video's . Check our museum web site allot of good CDN videos traction and regular are listed there in the gift shop section.It will give you an idea of what's available.

Well folks i'm off for now talk to you all later. Rob

Check out the URL http://www.cprstore.com/store/books.htm#videos if you haven't already .... lots of good stuff at the CPR store. As I 'speak,' I'm tracking down J. F. Garden's book - gotta have it!

Glad to you stopped by, although there's been a bit of a "coincidence" going on 'round here - you've been away, Nick's been gone, and so has Ruthie..... hmmmmm. Well, it's outta my hands - the Tribunal will sort it all out ! [8] [:-,]

See y'all later! [tup] [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 3, 2005 9:19 AM
Ah, it IS Friday!!! Let me get a cup of java to get the system started. Going to have fun riding trains in Great Britain next month. Have about a week of work at Thames Valley Park in Reading, about 25 miles west on London. Will be taking the Frist Great Western trains from Paddington to Reading every day. They are a little pricy at £20 per round trip, however, a hold over from my days on the DART board is a pass on FGW trains. Price is right and hotel rooms and restaurants are far better in London than Reading. Will be taking my wife with me. She will be seriously abusing the plastic while I work. Donations are appreciated. Please make checks payable to the Richard Watkins Welfare Fund.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 3, 2005 10:57 AM
Thanks for the input on the "seek and Ye shall find" A.P.B. I sent out last Post. This is the third time I've attempted sending but have been "bounced" due to power outages. [And Progress Energy wants a rate increase to boot] Nick, that must've been a gruelling trek on the "Under-the-Briny Speed Rail System." No need for dome cars, I dare say. I trust you will be swaping your powdered whig for the Head Chef's gear presently? Tom's superb Gourmand Pizza has been seeing me through pending your assuming "normal" status. I ordered a toasted English with cream cheese, topped with Nova Scotia while Boris was in earlier. Unfortunately, he returned ten minutes later declaring the "English" was busy in Court and he couldn't find a map of Nova Scotia anywhere. I don't want to tell you what "hit the counter" when I re-ordered for cream cheese on Rye. Rob, thanks again and you will be hearing from me very soon regarding public support for the Museum.

I'll return with a another vignette of some youthful train travels a.sa.p.! Meanwhile, let us hope for a speedy judgement from the honorable Provencial Tribunal. Good afternoon to all. Ted
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 12:02 PM
QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 03 June 2005, 09:19:59
Ah, it IS Friday!!! Let me get a cup of java to get the system started. Going to have fun riding trains in Great Britain next month. Have about a week of work at Thames Valley Park in Reading, about 25 miles west on London. Will be taking the Frist Great Western trains from Paddington to Reading every day. They are a little pricy at £20 per round trip, however, a hold over from my days on the DART board is a pass on FGW trains. Price is right and hotel rooms and restaurants are far better in London than Reading. Will be taking my wife with me. She will be seriously abusing the plastic while I work. Donations are appreciated. Please make checks payable to the Richard Watkins Welfare Fund.

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PS. Just kidding about the welfare fund.

Hey, it's lunchtime at "Our" Place ..... time for a hoagie/hero/sub/grinder with the freshest meats and cheeses in the territory. Also, freshly baked breads (all kinds) early this AM. So, whatillyahave?

Haven't been to Great Britain since 1971 and then the visit wasn't while on vacation. I was a "young" junior officer (33) assigned to one of our 378 ff Cutters and we were on a summer "Cadet Cruise." It was a great adventure for the CG Academy boys (that's what they were in those days ... a "boy's school) as we had 'em aboard for the seven weeks away from our homeport of Boston, MA. The regularly assigned officers and crew were narrowed down to about 1/3rd of normal complement in order to accommodate the Cadets. We ran 'em through all of the shipboard duties and through it all, my guess is the vast majority of 'em came away with good memories. I did. Got to see England, Norway, Germany and France during our European ports of call in Southhampton, Oslo, Lubeck and Brest. The ONLY train experience I had involved taking the train from a place in Germany called ULM to Paris, France. Spent 3 days there and then took another train to Brest to meet the ship - I was on 10 days leave, having departed my ship up in Lubeck, Germany. It was a "blast" - all of it. [#oops]Hmmmmmm, bit [#offtopic], sorry!

We EXPECT lots of pix from your vacation ... so plan on it! [tup] [;)]

I'm sure we can spare some quarters from the Juke Box jar over there for the RWWF ....... [tup] [;)]

QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 03 June 2005:57:03
Thanks for the input on the "seek and Ye shall find" A.P.B. I sent out last Post. This is the third time I've attempted sending but have been "bounced" due to power outages. [And Progress Energy wants a rate increase to boot]

[Nick, that must've been a gruelling trek on the "Under-the-Briny Speed Rail System." No need for dome cars, I dare say. I trust you will be swaping your powdered whig for the Head Chef's gear presently?

Tom's superb Gourmand Pizza has been seeing me through pending your assuming "normal" status. I ordered a toasted English with cream cheese, topped with Nova Scotia while Boris was in earlier. Unfortunately, he returned ten minutes later declaring the "English" was busy in Court and he couldn't find a map of Nova Scotia anywhere. I don't want to tell you what "hit the counter" when I re-ordered for cream cheese on Rye.

Rob thanks again and you will be hearing from me very soon regarding public support for the Museum.

I'll return with a another vignette of some youthful train travels a.sa.p.! Meanwhile, let us hope for a speedy judgement from the honorable Provencial Tribunal. Good afternoon to all. Ted

Glad the info provided helped ....... I'm not doing as well, as I cannot locate the book Rob referred me to British Columbia Railway by J.F. Garden. I can find the title on amazon.com and borders.com, but it is out of print and neither site has been able to locate any used copies. [:(]

Boris will be Boris and it's all a matter of adjusting - us to him. (Lord, help us all!) Where Nick found this guy, and why, will probably remain one of life's mysteries better left unexplained. Sorry.

So, whatillyahave? [tup] [;)]

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Posted by CFournier on Friday, June 3, 2005 1:28 PM
Hello there...Tom, just an inch of this fine Longmorn, please.
I have been busy doing what I do for a living in the Eastern Townships these days.
I may be of some help with prosecuting "The Ruthie case"[^] but then again, I like to leave my work at the office when I leave at night...
[soapbox]
While a was in Sherbrooke this week, I took a few pics of the old depot and the station, both boarded up and in bad shape. I wish I could post these pics but I still can't open an account at trainboard or elsewhere. Maybe I will send them to Tom and he could post them on the forum next week...[:D]
Tom, check this month's Railfan and Railroad (july issue) and you will find the cover to your liking my friend!!! "The last streamliner in the east" Via's Budd cars on the Ocean and Chaleur trains!![:P] All with nice pictures of these trains in the Maritimes and in Gaspesie.
And on top of that,( and too good to be true...) for the traction fans among this learned assembly [bow] a " last days of the trolley in New-York" p.36.
I have to go now, have a nice weekend everyone.
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Posted by CFournier on Friday, June 3, 2005 1:38 PM
Tom, Nick, I have not seen Annie lately, is she seeing someone else...[:(]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 1:53 PM
G'day Chris - Whatillyahave? Didn't notice you sitting over there on YOUR stool ....... been keeping my eye on Boris and the bunch of young ladies who stopped in for lunch ...... wonder IF they'll ever return[?]

Annie[?] She's been here - worked last night in fact. Stick around, she's on the schedule to work the back room tonight - Pizza night and steak & fries too. Haven't heard anything about HER - but we sure have our hands full (we wish) with Ruthie and her exploits.

Haven't seen hide nor hair of the Tribunal since they adjourned. Unconfirmed reports over at the all female university is that the sounds of [bonk] [bonk] [bonk] have been heard coming from the residence buildings along with Do what the nice Judge tells you - now let's try again. Haven't a clue what that's all about ...... [}:)]

So, whatillyahave? [tup] [;)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 1:59 PM
A new page has been reached, #21 ..... I'm going to use this occasion as a reminder to those who haven't responded:

2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST revised:
May 18th (Tom - 67) – July 15th (*** – 65) - July 25th (Chris - 51) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34)

C'mon "Our" Place customers - sign up and let's make this BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST more reflective of our regular customer base ........ Even Nick has yet to reveal his Natal Day and age, and HE's the Party Coordinator!

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Posted by CFournier on Friday, June 3, 2005 2:28 PM
Tom, just finished reading the july issue of "Railfan and railroad". great story about Via's Budd cars. I urge you to get your hands on a copy. Benchwork weekend again...
Where's my Longmorn?.[}:)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 2:38 PM
Chris Longmorn, a fine Scotch whisky ... how about a double? [;)]

Thanx for the tip about the VIA Budd cars article ....... [tup] [;)]

Stick around, I hear the decision of the Tribunal is about to be revealed.

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 2:44 PM
Oye, Oye, Oye, the EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE of “Our” Place is now in session. All rise for the procession of the Judges. (Hey! Boris, those are NOT long Kilts – and put them DOWN – Sheesh.

[bonk – bonk – bonk] (is THIS a gavel?) This Tribunal is now prepared to render its decision in the case Anonymous versus “Our” Place (or is it the other way ‘round[?]) Anyway, you may be seated.

Boris bring the Tribunal a hair of the dog a pitcher of something refreshing to drink.

Attorneys for both sides approach the bar bench.

Do you have any further material evidence to submit to the Tribunal[?]

No, your Tribunalship.

And are you ready for the decision of this august body[?]

You mean the decision will be revealed in August[?]

No, Boris you half-witted son of a gnat, this is June and we are ready to ……. Oh forget it.

All rise!

It is the decision of the Tribunal that one Ruthie was not forced, coerced, or otherwise duped into employment at The Coffee Shop. Rather, we find that Rob, aka: Trolleyboy did in fact inadvertently expose her – poor choice of words – did in fact introduce her to The Coffee Shop whereupon she found that her distant relatives, worked as waitresses, aka: servers. We also have found that one Nick an Associate Justice of this august body (keep quiet, Boris) was involved in that through his frequency of attendance at The Coffee Shop and ”Our” Place he too added to the inadvertent nature of Ruthie’s transgressions through references to her in both places. The matter of a newly born child has been clarified in that Ruthie was in fact recently visiting West Wales and was observed pushing a baby carriage, however, the report of one Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator revealed that the baby is that of Ruthie’s Mum, former Biker ‘itch and current Librarian at large. Ruthie therefore is as clean as the wind driven snow - of course that depends totally on the direction the wind is coming from, but that's another story.

It is the decision of the Tribunal that all records be expunged regarding any charges against all parties in this case and that the following judgment be carried out forthwith:

Rob, aka Trollyboy will be required to extricate Ruthie from further association with The Coffee Shop and that Nick assist in this endeavor. Evidence of completion will be filed with Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary whereupon this matter will be considered closed.

Case dismissed!

All rise! Oh, you are risen. Well, stay up until the Tribunal departs. (Hey, Boris bring a couple more of those pitchers to the back room, will ya[?])

Let's party!
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Posted by West Coast S on Friday, June 3, 2005 7:07 PM
Long time no see Tom and the gang..Dave from the left coast , can't indulge gotta report for VIP protection detail tomorrow , on a Saturday no less! Gotta stay alert, so how about some Ginger Ale? I've been gone a couple of weeks, my planned trip up north was a no go due to scheduling conflicts involving my occupation.

I see we have had some questionable ethics issues stain the honor of "Our Place" during my absence, ok who's responsible? We have ways of making you confess.

Tom, You are indeed quite the Baliwick, upon reading your argument, my initial thought was that the stuffed shirts had foreclosed on "Our Place" and transformed it into a haughty, up scale Coffe Bar / internet cafe and low cost-do it yourself law center. . Quit the legal argument you put forth, next time, notify me in detail as to the culprits and i'll put them on a international watch list .

Dave
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 7:50 PM
Hi Dave - Sorry you can't stick around this fine Friday evening .... as they say, "Duty calls."

We should exchange Emails one of these days .... apparently we have more than love of trains in common .......

By the way, how was that train watching trip you went on awhile ago? In case you haven't noticed, 'round here we share those tales! [tup] [;)]

When you get the chance, review the SUMMARIES - and those brown posts - you'll get the lowdown on what's been happenin' ........

No stuffed shirts or legal Beagles involved with the management 'round here ... just the same old crowd ....... stirring the pot (and I'm not referring to the growing kind). [}:)]

See ya! [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by West Coast S on Friday, June 3, 2005 8:21 PM
Ah yes Tom, trains, many tales of many adventures i'll bring the gang up to speed when I can devote time for a proper posting.. Until then..Off duty and leaving the building.

To be continued:

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, June 3, 2005 8:31 PM
First & foremost,apologies to the bench for interrupting the court whilst in session. I am recently arrived and will take a minute or two to catch up....................................O.K.,M`Lud,may I approach the bench...?..thank you,ah,Lucy....a bottle of Staropramen from the fridge in the back stores for me,a pale ale & a single malt for judge bloody jeffreys here,and the usual round for the house-go on give the track gang a drink as well-much appreciate the work done in my absence.....!............Will be running GO trains out to Barrie/Allendale soon,good effort boys !!!. Right, TOM,all evidence finally in,can state with authority natal day 5th March 1960,apparently 29 days late,a recurring pattern established early.....,LRC`s-useful modelling potential for #365 / #366 "International"-alternate VIA & AMTRAK power with a short car set . Will give some thought to Boris` past..... TED, Welcome back,we`ve missed the crystal clarity of your prose,I`m glad you can function without the "black bombers" as they are known locally, Am preparing brief roundup of express steam train timings over here r.e. your ref. "Thunderer"on line,also,transition from steam to diesel `Auto-trains`,will need to do sevaral day`s homework here....ROB..have been grubbing through my postcards`n`blurry photo`s collection and found ex TTC 4000 & G5098 + G5099,that I didnt know I had-no wonder the name seemed familiar...***..I get to ride in and out of Paddington fairly often,I`ll make out a list of all the "trackside industries" between there & Reading.(Which is a junction with the Southern Region) so you can choose which side of the carriage you want to sit on to take photo`s....... Lucy,same again my dear and dont forget to include yourself,....O.K, My lovely weekend away,up in steam train country;-what would you think the odd`s were of going all that way,to the house of a fellow train nut and ending up visiting a Zoo instead----Never underestimate the real boss......particulaly when She`s with her mother...........yes dear,of course dear,at once dear,------Gig in rugby club next door tomorrow so please disregard any postings,bound to get all excited again. Enjoy your weekends,pass some of that pizza,-here,Jeaneau,nice pizza--good dog!!! Be happy,nick
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 8:59 PM
Evening Nick - Man this place is hoppin' - Nice seeing you and all the guys enjoying Pizza Night. Looks like Boris is behaving somewhat better this Friday night - must've been that right hook he received from the brunette over in the corner booth in the back where it's dark ...... Once again, he thought she was a she, and it turned out she was a he. Boris does have that track record .... [}:)]

I'll get to your comments in the next SUMMARY - kinda busy here at the bar and really don't thave too much time for chit chat.

It will be interesting to learn how you and Rob plan to carry out the orders of the Tribunal. Of course, that will have to be handled between the two of you and Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary. Last time I noticed, he and Juneau (Siberian Husky) were playing tug-o-war with a garment that looks kinda like a sling shot made for bowling balls. Hmmmmmm.

Oh by the way, Carol says, absolutely NO pizza for Juneau - unless of course YOU want to pick up the results! [:(!]

Okay - I'll be right there .... see ya! [tup] [;)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 4, 2005 12:02 AM
SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS
A good (early) morning to you! Thought I’d get this SUMMARY finished BEFORE hitting the sack …. Got some things to attend to first thing off on Saturday …….

A VERY busy Friday for “Our” Place ….. [tup] [;)]
QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 03 June 2005, 09:19:59
Ah, it IS Friday!!! Let me get a cup of java to get the system started. Going to have fun riding trains in Great Britain next month. Have about a week of work at Thames Valley Park in Reading, about 25 miles west on London. Will be taking the Frist Great Western trains from Paddington to Reading every day. They are a little pricy at £20 per round trip, however, a hold over from my days on the DART board is a pass on FGW trains. Price is right and hotel rooms and restaurants are far better in London than Reading. Will be taking my wife with me. She will be seriously abusing the plastic while I work. Donations are appreciated. Please make checks payable to the Richard Watkins Welfare Fund.

***
PS. Just kidding about the welfare fund.


QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 03 June 2005, 10:57:03
Thanks for the input on the "seek and Ye shall find" A.P.B. I sent out last Post.

This is the third time I've attempted sending but have been "bounced" due to power outages. [And Progress Energy wants a rate increase to boot]

Nick, that must've been a grueling trek on the "Under-the-Briny Speed Rail System." No need for dome cars, I dare say. I trust you will be swapping your powdered whig for the Head Chef's gear presently?

Tom's superb Gourmand Pizza has been seeing me through pending your assuming "normal" status. I ordered a toasted English with cream cheese, topped with Nova Scotia while Boris was in earlier. Unfortunately, he returned ten minutes later declaring the "English" was busy in Court and he couldn't find a map of Nova Scotia anywhere. I don't want to tell you what "hit the counter" when I re-ordered for cream cheese on Rye.

Rob, thanks again and you will be hearing from me very soon regarding public support for the Museum.

I'll return with a another vignette of some youthful train travels a.sa.p.! Meanwhile, let us hope for a speedy judgment from the honorable Provencial Tribunal. Good afternoon to all. Ted


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 12:02:44
Quote wrwatkinsPosted: 03 June 2005, 09:19:59
Ah, it IS Friday!!! Let me get a cup of java to get the system started. Going to have fun riding trains in Great Britain next month. Have about a week of work at Thames Valley Park in Reading, about 25 miles west on London. Will be taking the First Great Western trains from Paddington to Reading every day. They are a little pricy at £20 per round trip, however, a hold over from my days on the DART board is a pass on FGW trains. Price is right and hotel rooms and restaurants are far better in London than Reading. Will be taking my wife with me. She will be seriously abusing the plastic while I work. Donations are appreciated. Please make checks payable to the Richard Watkins Welfare Fund.

***
PS. Just kidding about the welfare fund.
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Hey, it's lunchtime at "Our" Place ..... time for a hoagie/hero/sub/grinder with the freshest meats and cheeses in the territory. Also, freshly baked breads (all kinds) early this AM. So, whatillyahave?

Haven't been to Great Britain since 1971 and then the visit wasn't while on vacation. I was a "young" junior officer (33) assigned to one of our 378 ff Cutters and we were on a summer "Cadet Cruise." It was a great adventure for the CG Academy boys (that's what they were in those days ... a "boy's school) as we had 'em aboard for the seven weeks away from our homeport of Boston, MA. The regularly assigned officers and crew were narrowed down to about 1/3rd of normal complement in order to accommodate the Cadets. We ran 'em through all of the shipboard duties and through it all, my guess is the vast majority of 'em came away with good memories. I did. Got to see England, Norway, Germany and France during our European ports of call in Southampton, Oslo, Lubeck and Brest. The ONLY train experience I had involved taking the train from a place in Germany called ULM to Paris, France. Spent 3 days there and then took another train to Brest to meet the ship - I was on 10 days leave, having departed my ship up in Lubeck, Germany. It was a "blast" - all of it. [#oops] Hmmmmmm, a bit [#offtopic], sorry!

We EXPECT lots of pix from your vacation ... so plan on it! [tup] [;)]

I'm sure we can spare some quarters from the Juke Box jar over there for the RWWF ....... [tup] [;)][:(]
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QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 03 June 2005:57:03
Thanks for the input on the "seek and Ye shall find" A.P.B. I sent out last Post. This is the third time I've attempted sending but have been "bounced" due to power outages. [And Progress Energy wants a rate increase to boot]

Nick, that must've been a gruelling trek on the "Under-the-Briny Speed Rail System." No need for dome cars, I dare say. I trust you will be swaping your powdered whig for the Head Chef's gear presently?

Tom's superb Gourmand Pizza has been seeing me through pending your assuming "normal" status. I ordered a toasted English with cream cheese, topped with Nova Scotia while Boris was in earlier. Unfortunately, he returned ten minutes later declaring the "English" was busy in Court and he couldn't find a map of Nova Scotia anywhere. I don't want to tell you what "hit the counter" when I re-ordered for cream cheese on Rye.

Rob thanks again and you will be hearing from me very soon regarding public support for the Museum.

I'll return with a another vignette of some youthful train travels a.sa.p.! Meanwhile, let us hope for a speedy judgment from the honorable Provencial Tribunal. Good afternoon to all. Ted
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Glad the info provided helped ....... I'm not doing as well, as I cannot locate the book Rob referred me to British Columbia Railway by J.F. Garden. I can find the title on amazon.com and borders.com, but it is out of print and neither site has been able to locate any used copies. [:(]

Boris will be Boris and it's all a matter of adjusting - us to him. (Lord, help us all!) Where Nick found this guy, and why, will probably remain one of life's mysteries better left unexplained. Sorry.

So, whatillyahave? [tup] [;)]
Tom (Siberianmo)


QUOTE: CFournier Posted: 03 June 2005, 13:28:42
Hello there...Tom, just an inch of this fine Longmorn, please.
I have been busy doing what I do for a living in the Eastern Townships these days.
I may be of some help with prosecuting "The Ruthie case"[^] but then again, I like to leave my work at the office when I leave at night...
[soapbox]
While a was in Sherbrooke this week, I took a few pics of the old depot and the station, both boarded up and in bad shape. I wish I could post these pics but I still can't open an account at trainboard or elsewhere. Maybe I will send them to Tom and he could post them on the forum next week... [:D]
Tom, check this month's Railfan and Railroad (july issue) and you will find the cover to your liking my friend!!! "The last streamliner in the east" Via's Budd cars on the Ocean and Chaleur trains!! [:P] All with nice pictures of these trains in the Maritimes and in Gaspesie.
And on top of that,( and too good to be true...) for the traction fans among this learned assembly [bow] a " last days of the trolley in New-York" p.36.
I have to go now, have a nice weekend everyone.
Chris, in the sunny North Coast ltd.

Hey Chris! Don’t know how I missed this …. Sure didn’t show up when I was “on” …. Anyway … I think I’ve addressed most of what you’ve said further on down and by Email …. Should we ever require the services of an Attorney, I'll know WHO to call! .... Anyway, I checked out the Railfan and Railroad magazine on the net and will be looking for it at my LHS. Great cover photo and worth having for usre. Thanx again! Bon weekend to you too! [tup] [;)]

QUOTE: CFournier Posted: 03 June 2005, 13:38:05
Tom, Nick, I have not seen Annie lately, is she seeing someone else... [:(]
Chris, in the solitary North...


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 13:53:38
G'day Chris - Whatillyahave? Didn't notice you sitting over there on YOUR stool ....... been keeping my eye on Boris and the bunch of young ladies who stopped in for lunch ...... wonder IF they'll ever return[?]

Annie[?] She's been here - worked last night in fact. Stick around, she's on the schedule to work the back room tonight - Pizza night and steak & fries too. Haven't heard anything about HER - but we sure have our hands full (we wish) with Ruthie and her exploits.

Haven't seen hide nor hair of the Tribunal since they adjourned. Unconfirmed reports over at the all female university is that the sounds of [bonk] [bonk] [bonk] have been heard coming from the residence buildings along with Do what the nice Judge tells you - now let's try again. Haven't a clue what that's all about ...... [}:)]

So, whatillyahave? [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 13:59:15
A new page has been reached, #21 ..... I'm going to use this occasion as a reminder to those who haven't responded:

2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST revised:
May 18th (Tom - 67) – July 15th (*** – 65) - July 25th (Chris - 51) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34)

C'mon "Our" Place customers - sign up and let's make this BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST more reflective of our regular customer base ........ Even Nick has yet to reveal his Natal Day and age, and HE's the Party Coordinator!

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of "Our" Place


QUOTE: CFournier Posted: 03 June 2005, 14:28:21
Tom, just finished reading the july issue of "Railfan and railroad". great story about Via's Budd cars. I urge you to get your hands on a copy. Benchwork weekend again...
Where's my Longmorn?.
Chris in the French North


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 14:38:16
Chris Longmorn, a fine Scotch whisky ... how about a double? [;)]

Thanx for the tip about the VIA Budd cars article ....... [tup] [;)]

Stick around, I hear the decision of the Tribunal is about to be revealed.

Tom (Siberianmo)


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 14:44:57
Oye, Oye, Oye, the EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE of “Our” Place is now in session. All rise for the procession of the Judges. (Hey! Boris, those are NOT long Kilts – and put them DOWN – Sheesh.

[bonk – bonk – bonk] (is THIS a gavel?) This Tribunal is now prepared to render its decision in the case Anonymous versus “Our” Place (or is it the other way ‘round ) Anyway, you may be seated.

Boris bring the Tribuna a hair of the dog a pitcher of something refreshing to drink.

Attorneys for both sides approach the bar bench.

Do you have any further material evidence to submit to the Tribuna[?]

No, your Tribunalship.

And are you ready for the decision of this august body[?]

You mean the decision will be revealed in August[?]

No, Boris you half-witted son of a gnat, this is June and we are ready to ……. Oh forget it.

All rise!

It is the decision of the Tribunal that one Ruthie was not forced, coerced, or otherwise duped into employment at The Coffee Shop. Rather, we find that Rob, aka: Trolleyboy did in fact inadvertently expose her – poor choice of words – did in fact introduce her to The Coffee Shop whereupon she found that her distant relatives, worked as waitresses, aka: servers. We also have found that one Nick an Associate Justice of this august body (keep quiet, Boris) was involved in that through his frequency of attendance at The Coffee Shop and ”Our” Place he too added to the inadvertent nature of Ruthie’s transgressions through references to her in both places. The matter of a newly born child has been clarified in that Ruthie was in fact recently visiting West Wales and was observed pushing a baby carriage, however, the report of one Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator revealed that the baby is that of Ruthie’s Mum, former Biker ‘itch and current Librarian at large. Ruthie therefore is as clean as the wind driven snow - of course that depends totally on the direction the wind is coming from, but that's another story.

It is the decision of the Tribunal that all records be expunged regarding any charges against all parties in this case and that the following judgment be carried out forthwith:

Rob, aka Trollyboy will be required to extricate Ruthie from further association with The Coffee Shop and that Nick assist in this endeavor. Evidence of completion will be filed with Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary whereupon this matter will be considered closed.

Case dismissed!

All rise! Oh, you are risen. Well, stay up until the Tribunal departs. (Hey, Boris bring a couple more of those pitchers to the back room, will ya[?])

Let's party!


QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 03 June 2005, 19:07:29
Long time no see Tom and the gang..Dave from the left coast , can't indulge gotta report for VIP protection detail tomorrow , on a Saturday no less! Gotta stay alert, so how about some Ginger Ale? I've been gone a couple of weeks, my planned trip up north was a no go due to scheduling conflicts involving my occupation.

I see we have had some questionable ethics issues stain the honor of "Our Place" during my absence, ok who's responsible? We have ways of making you confess.

Tom, You are indeed quite the Baliwick, upon reading your argument, my initial thought was that the stuffed shirts had foreclosed on "Our Place" and transformed it into a haughty, up scale Coffe Bar / internet cafe and low cost-do it yourself law center. . Quit the legal argument you put forth, next time, notify me in detail as to the culprits and I'll put them on a international watch list .

Dave


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 19:50:42
Hi Dave - Sorry you can't stick around this fine Friday evening .... as they say, "Duty calls."

We should exchange Emails one of these days .... apparently we have more than love of trains in common .......

By the way, how was that train watching trip you went on awhile ago? In case you haven't noticed, 'round here we share those tales! [tup] [;)]

When you get the chance, review the SUMMARIES - and those brown posts - you'll get the lowdown on what's been happenin' ........

No stuffed shirts or legal Beagles involved with the management 'round here ... just the same old crowd ....... stirring the pot (and I'm not referring to the growing kind). [}:)]

See ya! [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)


QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 03 June 2005, 20:21:27
Ah yes Tom, trains, many tales of many adventures i'll bring the gang up to speed when I can devote time for a proper posting.. Until then..Off duty and leaving the building.

To be continued:

Dave


QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 03 June 2005, 20:31:31

First & foremost,apologies to the bench for interrupting the court whilst in session. I am recently arrived and will take a minute or two to catch up....................................

O.K.,M`Lud,may I approach the bench...?..thank you,

ah,Lucy....a bottle of Staropramen from the fridge in the back stores for me,a pale ale & a single malt for judge bloody jeffreys here,and the usual round for the house-go on give the track gang a drink as well-much appreciate the work done in my absence.....!............

Will be running GO trains out to Barrie/Allendale soon,good effort boys !!!.

Right, TOM,all evidence finally in,can state with authority natal day 5th March 1960,apparently 29 days late,a recurring pattern established early.....,

LRC`s-useful modelling potential for #365 / #366 "International"-alternate VIA & AMTRAK power with a short car set .

Will give some thought to Boris` past.....

TED, Welcome back,we`ve missed the crystal clarity of your prose,I`m glad you can function without the "black bombers" as they are known locally, Am preparing brief roundup of express steam train timings over here r.e. your ref. "Thunderer"on line,also,transition from steam to diesel `Auto-trains`,will need to do sevaral day`s homework here....

ROB..have been grubbing through my postcards`n`blurry photo`s collection and found ex TTC 4000 & G5098 + G5099,that I didnt know I had-no wonder the name seemed familiar...***..I get to ride in and out of Paddington fairly often,I`ll make out a list of all the "trackside industries" between there & Reading.(Which is a junction with the Southern Region) so you can choose which side of the carriage you want to sit on to take photo`s.......

Lucy,same again my dear and dont forget to include yourself,....

O.K, My lovely weekend away,up in steam train country;-what would you think the odd`s were of going all that way,to the house of a fellow train nut and ending up visiting a Zoo instead----Never underestimate the real boss......particulaly when She`s with her mother...........yes dear,of course dear,at once dear,------Gig in rugby club next door tomorrow so please disregard any postings,bound to get all excited again.

Enjoy your weekends,pass some of that pizza,-here,Juneau,nice pizza--good dog!!! Be happy,nick

Thanx for the Birthday information! [tup] [tup] [tup] [;)]

2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST revised: March 5th (Nick – 45) - May 18th (Tom - 67) – July 15th (*** – 65) - July 25th (Chris - 51) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34) [tup] [;)]

siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 20:59:25
Evening Nick - Man this place is hoppin' - Nice seeing you and all the guys enjoying Pizza Night. Looks like Boris is behaving somewhat better this Friday night - must've been that right hook he received from the brunette over in the corner booth in the back where it's dark ...... Once again, he thought she was a she, and it turned out she was a he. Boris does have that track record .... [}:)]

I'll get to your comments in the next SUMMARY - kinda busy here at the bar and really don't thave too much time for chit chat.

It will be interesting to learn how you and Rob plan to carry out the orders of the Tribunal. Of course, that will have to be handled between the two of you and Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary. Last time I noticed, he and Juneau (Siberian Husky) were playing tug-o-war with a garment that looks kinda like a sling shot made for bowling balls. Hmmmmmm.

Oh by the way, Carol says, absolutely NO pizza for Juneau - unless of course YOU want to pick up the results! [:(!]

Okay - I'll be right there .... see ya! [tup] [;)]
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That's it for me .......... see ya! [|)]

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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, June 4, 2005 1:01 AM
Good eveninng again everyone.TomI will attempt again to remove Ruthie from the clutches of her customers and cousins attempted to a few pages ago over at CS but things had been busy and hectic over there. I actually saw a for sale copy of the BC book tonight at Niagara central hobbies in st Catharines on (my hometown,hometown) try www.niagaracentralhobbies .com They don't sell on the internet but i beleave that if you call them they will do mail order. Sorry I didn't peek at the price. Normally sold for around $80 CDN.Another good book is Across The Canadian Shield, good photo's of n Ontario CNR action in the 50's early deisel's and the Super Continental passenger trains good stuff.Books by Alan Lill and Robert Wanner it was published by the CN Lines Speacial Intrest Group in 1998. ( niagara Central has one or two copies of this left as well) well I'm off for now thanks for the link for the video's Tom as well.[tup] talk to you all later. Rob
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 4, 2005 11:26 AM
It is really great to have "Our Bunch" back at "Our" Place, isn't it? The brief absence of a few "key" and highly esteemed players brings the promise of many future "rails tales." Thanks for the feed-back on the "transition" (steam-Deisel/elcectrification) periods in Canada, U.K. and U.S. Tom, if you please, a 'round for all. When you consider the passenger cars e.g., "slam door" (U.K.) to the "B-29" obsevation car (Milwaukee Road) along with the fledgling Diesel (petroleum distillation process) and fading steam (turbines); the "transition era" may not be so far afield as it seems. Hopefully, it all comes together for greater appreciation and enjoyment for everyone.

"All is well that ends well" appears to be the result of, an otherwise baffling, convaluted, thread of litigation. Here is to a "job well done" by all who participated including Boris, although kissing the Magistrate's ring may have been bit uncustomary. Any road, we can only wi***hat other note worthy trials should be so merciful, right? Nick, I owe you. First, for the ill-fated tet-a-tet involving your culinary labors. Second, for addressing you as "...in northeast Wales" at an earlier posting; my profound apologies! Perhaps we had best leave the "first" faux pas for some future date "to be determined." I've been seeing a Hungarian Lass from time to time. Is there any chance that "stuffed Cabbage" might be in your planning menues? Tom, splendid job of keeping the Paparazzi at bay.

Well friends all, may I offer a toast for a Summer of good hunting, reading and viewing in our own respective manner of enjoyment. Happy rails, Ted

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 4, 2005 3:04 PM
G'day all! A rather quiet Saturday thus far. Cindy watched the bar this morning. Who is she, you ask? Just a friend from round the bend .... she teaches over at the all female college. [:-,] Since our regular gals have the day shift off, she's offered to help me out from time to time, just as long as Boris isn't on the loose. [}:)]

QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 04 June 2005, 01:01:14
Good eveninng again everyone.

Tom I will attempt again to remove Ruthie from the clutches of her customers and cousins attempted to a few pages ago over at CS but things had been busy and hectic over there.

I actually saw a for sale copy of the BC book tonight at Niagara central hobbies in St Catharines on (my hometown, hometown) try www.niagaracentralhobbies .com They don't sell on the internet but i beleave that if you call them they will do mail order. Sorry I didn't peek at the price. Normally sold for around $80 CDN.

Another good book is Across The Canadian Shield, good photo's of Ontario CNR action in the 50's early deisel's and the Super Continental passenger trains good stuff. Books by Alan Lill and Robert Wanner it was published by the CN Lines Special Interest Group in 1998. (Niagara Central has one or two copies of this left as well)

well I'm off for now thanks for the link for the video's Tom as well. talk to you all later. Rob

Hey Rob! I can't keep up with the conversations [?] over on the CS - just too much, too often for me. I've kinda restricted my comings and goings to whenever I have something that I feel someone might really be interested in.

Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary stopped by just before I closed up and gave me these business cards ..... I left one for you and Nick right over there by the mail boxes for our regulars. He asked that you communicate with him regarding Ruthie. I'm sure between you and Nick this will get quickly resolved and fade into "Our" Place history. [;)]

I really, really wanted to find that British Columbia Railway book. Spent a bit of time searching for it ...... I have an idea and will send you an Email soon regarding my "scheme." Also, I haven't forgotten about that F7 for my HO Canadian National "smoothsides" in white/black. I'd like to find an appropriately colored loco for the consist - even if it will be in my display case. I run 'em for commemorative ops and the like. Aren't we model train people just a bit "over the top"? [;)] Thanx, though for the tip and URL (it didn't come up - but I'll try again later).

In my recent experiences with books - especially hardcover - they just don't stay on the market long enough. Something published even a year ago, goes out of print fast. My limited library would grow to require another room in the house IF I acted on all of the recommendations coming in! Appreciate them, though! [tup] [;)]

QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 04 June 2005, 11:26:11
It is really great to have "Our Bunch" back at "Our" Place, isn't it? The brief absence of a few "key" and highly esteemed players brings the promise of many future "rails tales."

Thanks for the feed-back on the "transition" (steam-Deisel/elcectrification) periods in Canada, U.K. and U.S.

Tom, if you please, a 'round for all.

When you consider the passenger cars e.g., "slam door" (U.K.) to the "B-29" obsevation car (Milwaukee Road) along with the fledgling Diesel (petroleum distillation process) and fading steam (turbines); the "transition era" may not be so far afield as it seems. Hopefully, it all comes together for greater appreciation and enjoyment for everyone.

"All is well that ends well" appears to be the result of, an otherwise baffling, convaluted, thread of litigation. Here is to a "job well done" by all who participated including Boris, although kissing the Magistrate's ring may have been bit uncustomary. Any road, we can only wi***hat other note worthy trials should be so merciful, right?

Nick, I owe you. First, for the ill-fated tet-a-tet involving your culinary labors. Second, for addressing you as "...in northeast Wales" at an earlier posting; my profound apologies! Perhaps we had best leave the "first" faux pas for some future date "to be determined." I've been seeing a Hungarian Lass from time to time. Is there any chance that "stuffed Cabbage" might be in your planning menues?

Tom, splendid job of keeping the Paparazzi at bay.

Well friends all, may I offer a toast for a Summer of good hunting, reading and viewing in our own respective manner of enjoyment. Happy rails, Ted

[yeah] It IS good having most of the "gang" back in action at "Our" Place. Yesterday was something - lots of customers - and some good info too. Of course, the Tribunal's completion of their work must have been the capstone as I could feel the collective [sigh] of relief when they announced their findings. Could've heard a bra pin drop before that happened. [}:)]

One of my earlier model railroads was in the transition era, although I mine was all diesel with the exception of a "yard goat" steamer. Love that period of railroading. I modeled - or tried to - a make believe place in the Berkshires where the NYC - PRR - B&M and NH could have come together - but most probably didn't. Those roads were (and are) memorable to me in that I grew up in the northeast and traveled 'em all at different points in my young life. Today, all the loco's and rolling stock are on display - reitred, you know - within my wall mounted display cases in the Can-Am trainroom. The new layout is "today" - somewhere from 1990 to present day will do ......... and features VIA Rail, BC Rail and Amtrak passenger ops, along with CN, CP/CP Rail freights. Love it (also)! [tup] [;)]

Before Nick responds to your stuffed cabbage suggestion - ONLY IF IT IS COOKED AND EATEN OUT ON THE BACK PATIO! Most probably would help to chase off the critters, insects and relatives of Boris! [swg]

Regarding those Paparazzi - they did make an effort to provide coverage of the Tribunal's sessions, however, Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary and his stallwart mates, were able to convince them that the proceedings were being held over in the next town down the line. Last I saw any of 'em was as they were boarding the northbound local ........ return trip should be in another day or two. [}:)]

Here's to what I hope will be the start of a great summer season for all - albeit just a bit early - but a toast is a toast! [^]

See ya later ......... [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, June 4, 2005 10:45 PM
Good evening folks.Ruthie situation has been solved.I found a new girl to work at the CS abd the gang have taken to her,soooo sheeee's back.Tom try .ca for that url or just a search for Niagara Central Hobbies. I know they have both books still. I've been shopping there for years. Ray the owner is a good guy. I await your e-mail plan.Talk to yuo all later. Rob
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 5, 2005 6:21 AM
Ah, a peaceful, quiet Sunday basking in the balmy breezes of a sub-tropical early morning. This is the sort of morning Carol (my late wife) and I detrained in Sanford, Fl. (Dec. 1973) to visit my in-laws in North Port, Fl. We rode the Auto Train (no kin to the U.K. variety) from Largo, Md. which departed early the previous day. Lunch and dinner on the train were served buffet style with steam tables and micro-wave ovens instead of the usual full menue on a typical dining car (more is the pity). There were movies available in several cars on the train. We opted to relax in our full length vista dome car and enjoy the sunset. Stereo headphones offered a variety of musical choices and I chose Classical just as Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings" began. With the twilight setting, Barber's music, a J & B Scotch in hand and the "mystique" of the rhythmic motion of the train; I was transfixed to another deminsion. That rare moment lingers in my mind as something totally unique about train travel. It is still possible today but much more "rare." The coastal views the next morning had a calming, almost sedating effect until our arrival at Sanford. Then, of course the "spell" was shattered with waiting for my car to be unloaded and the subsequent drive to my Inlaw's home.

I was impressed with the West Coast of Florida as oppossed to the Atlantic side which smacks of "high dollar" tourism at its' most obnoxious pitch (my opinion only). We had a nice visit with her folks but all I could think about was our return journey. The "return," as you can imagine, was Summer giving way to Winter and maybe not quite as pleasant but we escaped motoring through one of the worst blizzards to hit the Carolinas in decades. The dark, gloomy, heavy clouds over Virginia reminded us that we were, indeed, back home again. That, and the "white knuckle" sprint through D.C. traffic toward Baltimore plus shoveling out the drive way before opening the "Castle" door; brought on the decision to retire in warmer climes.

Well, I hear snoring emanating from one or two easy chairs, so my tale has "hit the mark" this day. I'll be seeing you tomorrow, hopfully with something for a proper toast...I mean, Post! Ted
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, June 5, 2005 8:56 AM
Good Sunday Morning! Yes, we are CLOSED on Sundays, however, there are always "things" to take care of 'round here, without the welcomed interruptions of a business day.

As always, you can drop off your messages by using the mail slots on either set of doors .... I'll find 'em.

No need for a "formal" SUMMARY today, but I can catch up on the comments .........

QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 04 Jun 2005, 22:45:24
Good evening folks.

Ruthie situation has been solved. I found a new girl to work at the CS abd the gang have taken to her,soooo sheeee's back.

Tom try .ca for that url or just a search for Niagara Central Hobbies. I know they have both books still. I've been shopping there for years. Ray the owner is a good guy. I await your e-mail plan.

Talk to you all later. Rob

Bureaucracies being what they are, the Tribunal has set up a "procedure" whereby one Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary MUST be the intermediary between parties of the first part and the Tribunal, adjunct of the Executive Committee [aka: Kangaroo Court]. Once in receipt of your resoultion plan, and a review - certified by Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary along with concurrence from Nick, party of the first and second parts, closure (I HATE that word .......) may be obtained.

The URL, www.niagracentralhobbies.ca only gets me an error message, as did .com - but that's okay. I think you'll like my plan ......

Enjoy this fine Sunday! [tup] [;)]

QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 05 June 2005, 06:21:56
Ah, a peaceful, quiet Sunday basking in the balmy breezes of a sub-tropical early morning. This is the sort of morning Carol (my late wife) and I detrained in Sanford, Fl. (Dec. 1973) to visit my in-laws in North Port, Fl. We rode the Auto Train (no kin to the U.K. variety) from Largo, Md. which departed early the previous day. Lunch and dinner on the train were served buffet style with steam tables and micro-wave ovens instead of the usual full menue on a typical dining car (more is the pity). There were movies available in several cars on the train. We opted to relax in our full length vista dome car and enjoy the sunset. Stereo headphones offered a variety of musical choices and I chose Classical just as Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings" began. With the twilight setting, Barber's music, a J & B Scotch in hand and the "mystique" of the rhythmic motion of the train; I was transfixed to another deminsion. That rare moment lingers in my mind as something totally unique about train travel. It is still possible today but much more "rare." The coastal views the next morning had a calming, almost sedating effect until our arrival at Sanford. Then, of course the "spell" was shattered with waiting for my car to be unloaded and the subsequent drive to my Inlaw's home.

I was impressed with the West Coast of Florida as oppossed to the Atlantic side which smacks of "high dollar" tourism at its' most obnoxious pitch (my opinion only). We had a nice visit with her folks but all I could think about was our return journey. The "return," as you can imagine, was Summer giving way to Winter and maybe not quite as pleasant but we escaped motoring through one of the worst blizzards to hit the Carolinas in decades. The dark, gloomy, heavy clouds over Virginia reminded us that we were, indeed, back home again. That, and the "white knuckle" sprint through D.C. traffic toward Baltimore plus shoveling out the drive way before opening the "Castle" door; brought on the decision to retire in warmer climes.

Well, I hear snoring emanating from one or two easy chairs, so my tale has "hit the mark" this day. I'll be seeing you tomorrow, hopfully with something for a proper toast...I mean, Post! Ted

Really appreciate the description of your experiences aboard the Auto Train. That's a trip we've thought about, but always seem to put off. My Carol and I are NOT "into" trps of any kind where lots of children may be involved. Now before I get catogorized as the Grinch let me continue .... simply put, Been there, done that (in a previous life). I fully understand that the majority of southbound riders are heading off to Orlando and the wonders of amusement parks - Been there, done that many time over (in a previous life) don't need to do it again. Nevertheless, riding trains - taking in the sights from a comfortable setting - and those Superliner lounge cars aren't bad - are things that memories are made of. (Sorry, Dean Martin - Memories Are Made of This - circa: mid-50's).

My preference for sightseeing is also the Gulf Coast, up on the panhandle as well as the western shore. Been awhile since we've been to the Sunshine State and never aboard a train. Perhaps one day ........

Also enjoyed the descriptions of "reality" once off the the train, in Florida and back home. Oh, how I can relate to THAT ........

Enjoy your Sunday! [tup] [;)]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Sunday, June 5, 2005 7:33 PM
Hey Tom,Just popped in to tidy round the kitchen & do the orders`n`stuff. Cindy,Hi-a pleasure to meet you,You will find us a company of gentlemen,although keep an eye on the one in the filthy "whites" with the impenetrable accent.....A quick heads-up for the boys,over on MR w/end photo fun,pge 2 ,there`s a guy over in Germany who`se done some nice work on a set of Bombardier double deckers and an F-unit ( plus a pretty impressive setting.)-thoughts anyone ? Apologies To Juneau,both for mis-spelling her name and compromising her digestion. Tom,Rob seems to have acted with the skills of a born diplomat, I feel he has presented us with a perfect solution to a potentially thorny issue,Rob-our thanks for a job well done !!!. Ted- All manner of dolmado`s and other stuffed leaves are available on request, I would advise the minced lamb & peppers with wild rice and the feta,monkfish & bulgar wheat as fillings with Our Place`s mediterranean platter as an accompaniment................So,to business,-British express train performances,all statistics are taken from "Speed records on Britains railways" by O.S.Nock,a leading authority for many years. One or two brief notes first,unlike `your` side we dont run East/West or North/South. We have Up & Down-Up always being towards London. Thus the Up Brighton Belle is northbound whilst the up Flying Scotsman southbound.........go figure!...Also,in the period under scrutiny, the twenties & thirties, the myriad small companies that made up the network had recently been merged into the "big four" (LMS,LNER,GWR & Southern) and the new bosses were eager to restore and improve upon,pre-war timings. So,one from each region over the next week-an old fashioned serial.! For tonight,the 2.30pm up from Cheltenham to Paddington-the celebrated "Cheltenham Flyer"-in honour of ***,who will be travelling the route soon. The first data to hand are from 1923,and give a 75 min. start to stop over 77.3 miles-61.8 mph. The road in question ( Brunel`s billiard table ) is either flat or falling slightly away and was without speed restrictions. the load was 8 or 9 cars( about 270+ tons) hauled by a "saint" class 2 cyl. 4-6-0. schedules accelerated in 1929 bringing max speeds up to 86-87 mph behind "castle" class 4-cyl 4-6-0`s 1931,Blue Riband for worlds fastest passes to Canadian Pacific Toronto-Montreal service,Sept 1931-welcome home !--sample timing,15 sept `31-engine 5000 "Launceston Castle",train weight 230 tons,run time 58 mins,average speed 80.25 mph,hit 90 max the following day. 5 june`32,5006 "Tregenna Castle" hit 92 mph for 14.5 miles Didcot/Tilehurst running up,whilst at the same time, 5005 "Manorbier Castle" ,210 tons,running down set a British record start-to-stop for steam which still stands at 81.68 mph 30 june `37 5039 "Rhuddlan Castle",235 tons,avge.88.9 mph max. 95 mph testing speed indicator equipment but shut back before reaching Southall,thus missing record.....O.K -thats the Great Western in a thumb-nail print,more to follow. Well I have to say this is a pleasantly tranquil environment after the rigours of last night. As previously noted,gig in club next door,--good points, I work there so get unlimited credit plus extreme tolerence when I get a bit wobbly, we always get the music night slots there, bad points, on music nights the whole place goes completely crazy,the closest analogy I can think of is the scene in the first Star Wars film where Obi-Wan takes Luke into the spaceport bar-last night we were performing in competition with a two hour long rolling brawl in the car park amongst some of the `start early with vodka in the bus shelter` crowd which had the neighbours bringing out picnic tables & pot-luck suppers and awarding points for style & content,oh to be young & dull again...better go,seem to have written small novel,be well guys,nick
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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, June 5, 2005 11:39 PM
Good evening gentlemen.NickI'm glad you approve of my sollution ,and there's been nary a mention of Ruthie at the CS today or yesterday. Jane her replacement hes one them over.My thoughts are that it is likly her former occupation as an ummm DANCER has worked it's magic.Boris give me her picture back,wow I thought he was going to bite me.Has he had his shots?TomI'm sure that I will love your plan likley eligant and well thought out,BTW have you sent it yet?If you have I did not yet reveive it if you haven't then I'm awaiting it with baited breath.They are a "dot com" I was able to go to the site this afternoon,they are on a small cheap local service so that could be why you keep getting an error message.speaking of classics heather and I and likely her folks are looking at an early summer steam excursion on the South somcoe Railway at Tottenham(near orangeville ontario) They have CPR136 back working this year(100+year old 4-4-0) If any of you saw CBC's the national dream 136 was the steamer used for the mini series.I'm happy to report that our museum numbers have been up for the year so far and that L&PS 8 is close to returning to service. She is the "queen" of our fleet( a 1915 Jewet car company interurban car) We missed her badly last year, she had an entaglement with the yard wire early last summer and snapped a couple of ears off her working pan.While she was haveing the pan rebuilt we noticed that the one controller and a couple of resistor banks needed some attention,so since she was down we decided to fix all her ills. Her return will give MS&C 107 a bit of a break. We like to have two or three of each type of car available for service as this cuts down on down time do too maintenance and repair.it also gives us more selection for the general public.Last year was a thin year car wise with 8 out and both our operating whitt's were in Toronto being movie stars. Everyone go see Cinderellaman the streetcars in the movie are our two whitts 2424.and 2894 and the TTC's whit 2766.well I'm off for now will chack in tomorrow.Rob BTW here's a shot of L&PS car #8 at barn two

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