Scranton, PA, 1949 - 1950

[daveklepper]

I told youthat I have a computer problem that apparently surfaces only with your messages and one other (former) correrspondant, and that to contact me, use a third party.  Here is my own "cleaned-up" version, and you are welcome to post your version in another postging below, if you believe it is an improvement on my work.

[Joseph Frank]

Dave -- I instructed you a short while ago to tell me what exactly in detail is your "problem" with / when  receiving my emails as no one else on these  forums nor on any email lists (yours and other lists) has informed me of any tech or other problems from or receiving my emails -- 

 

PS:  I already posted my cleaned up photo-version here on this thread (a LINK to open it) just previously, and sent you a day ago an email copy of it which you received and replied to me.  Open the photo link and compare.  You may use my better version as you wish. . 

Thanks - regards - Joe F

[daveklepper]

MThe server at the Yeshicva won't let me use your link.  The server is also probably related to the problems I have with email from yo.  You can post telf she picture itself  by using Imgur or another regular photo wesite.

The problem with your input into my email box is that I get a  disconnet from the web.

[Joseph Frank]

Dave -- below is the photo I corrected -- in link below from a photo hosting site.

Click the link, and click on the photo that comes up to get a larger size view.  Hope this works.

<< CLICK LINK (Downtown Scranton photo Joe Frank corrected)

Thanks for the info on the problem / issue via your Yeshiva server. 

Odd that after a year or so of our back and forth emails,  this issue only came up after my private email to you a few days ago about issues with some of your photo editing processes. You have never mentioned this "yeshiva server" issue as happening previous to that !!!  regards - Joe F

 

[daveklepper]

The Crypto experts at the Yeshiva's server do regard you as a threat.

The  experience with the photo on the Third Avene Lightweight thread of two Yonkers 301s  lined up at Gettys Square Sqare, the front on the Number 6 Line, and possibly similar incidents, may possibly be related.  Or not.  They have not  replied.

When I try to use the link, it dissapears from the screen,

I don't think I need your help in editing photos.  Others  can use the link and may think differently.

[daveklepper]

I do get lkots of help from Richard Allman.  He appreciates what I do in remedying gross imperfections, and I admire his ability at shading.  He found detail in this photo I did not knoiw was there:

Here we worked together for further improvement:

Similarly here:

 

[daveklepper]

But more work was needed on 410 Wyoming Avenue, Downtown, so herewith:

[anglecock]

It's sad to see the New Jersey Central Station sitting vacant and falling apart when it is sitting in the middle of town and would make a great resterant

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

The former Jersey City terminal is part of Liberty State Park so it is rather unlikely that it would be repackaged in such a way.

[daveklepper]

I think he is referring to the Scranton CNJ station, not the Jersey City Terminal.

[Joseph Frank]

Dave -- that comment is pure fantasy nonsense !!!.  Do please explain what and why specifically "Yeshiva's Crypto Experts" regard me as a threat -- and a threat to whom ?? . What is their specific reason they allegedly stated as a threat as you claim / wrote ?

(Isn't crypto related to crypto money-currency ??!)  

They don't know me and I don't know them and there is no basis nor reason for such a claim. 

Others I disussed your Yeshiva "threat" comment reply with,  all stated its likely just pure nonsense from you only. Suddenly this issue comes up only in the last week or so after more than a year or so of email friendly correspondence between you and I ??!! Unbelievable !   Regards - Joe F

[daveklepper]

The only explanaition I can give you is that certain photos, that I took 60 -75 tears ago and spent lots of time repairing, suddenly dissapeared from my computer.  Some are still missing.  Some were returned by others claiming the were screenshots.  Some i replaced by copying off this website, where I had posted them via Imgur.

This does not in anyway mean that you are responsible.  But one of your contacts, even one you have not heard from in some time, was using your contact with me to enter my computer.

The crypto experts at the server want to protect me.  That is my analysis of the situation.   And there is absolutely no way you csn convince me your contacts directly with me are benign.  Your friendshiop is simply not as important as my ability to use the computer at the Yeshiva with safety.  And there were instances when I had to do program repair work.

As far as the friendship itself, you accused me of doing a bad job of editing my photos and that I should send them to a professional or YOU.  I leave it to readers as to whether I am doing a bad job.

Other readers can contact me to learn who and why certain people would like me to be unable to communicate.  Recall that for years I had permission from three Orthodox Rabbis to help churches with acoustics problems, but one group feels they should be the sole contact netween religious Christians and Jews.  My favorite American song is "Simple Gifts." found in most Christian Hymnals and also enjoyed when I sing it at my Yeshiva.  Here are the words, also in Hebrew and Arabic:

FOR YOUR HOLIDAY JOY

 

'TIS THE GIFT TO BE SIMPLE HAMATTANAH LIHIYOT PASHUUT            ILHADIYYA TSIIR BASITTE

   'TIS THE GIFT TO BE FREE    HAMATTANAH LIHIYOT HOFSHII              ILHADIYYA TSIIR FADIYYE

'TIS THE GIIFT TO COME DOWN           HAMATTANAH LESHEVET                       ILHADDIYA TUQgUD

   WHERE YOU OUGHT TO BE                BAMAKOM HAHETOV SHELII                   FI LMAHAL MABSUTILI

AND WHEN YOU FIND YOURSELF       KISHETIMTSAA HAMAKOM                      WLAAMEN BITLAAQIIK

  IN THE PLACE JUST RIGHT    HAHETOV SHELHA                                  FI MAHALAK IDDURI

IT WILL BE IN THE VALLEY                   TIHIYYEH BAMAKOM                               BITSSIIR FI LWADI

  OF LOVE AND DELIGHT                       BI'AHAVAH VIHATZLIHAH                        ILHUBBI WISSURUURI

WHEN TRUE SIMPLICITY'S     KISHEHAPASHUT HANIHONAH     LAMMA LBASAATA SSAHIIHE

  ATTAINED                                            TIMTSAA                                                 BITLAAQI

TO BOW AND TO BEND                        HAHISHTAHAVUUT                   TISARREF ITTAANI

  YOU SHAN'T BE ASHAMED   LO TIHIYYEH LIHA DOHAH                       MISH ILAK gAATELI

TO TURN AND TO TURN                        LISAVOV, LISAVOV                                 TIDUUR WTIDUUR

  WILL BE THY DELIGHT                         YIHIYYEH LIHA ASHASHAH                     YSSIIR ILAK KAgKE

'TILL BY TURNING RIGHT AROUND       AD SHETISSAVOV BIMAAGUL                 LAHAD BITDUUR FI LHAWWAL

  YOU'LL COME OUT RIGHT.                   VITAITZAI YASHAAR                                WBITLAAg SSAHIIH

 

H = soft kh, like Hanukah and Haifa        H = hard kh, like "barukh atah..."     g =  Arabic Ayin, a very soft almost silent gh.   R =  the French r, almost an rgh.      Q = very soft, almost silent.   SH used together are one consonant

 

 

 

Thanks to the Shakers for the English Language song, and the Hebrew and Arabic interpretations and transliterations are in honor and memory of William Warfield and Aaron Copeland.  I thank the teachers who corrected my homework.

 

 

 

 

 

[daveklepper]

The previous two postings, Joe Frank's and my reply, are obviously off-topic.  I do not wish to see this thread locked, and hope to recover masny more intersting negatives to scan and  repair and post.  I can live  with the present c situation, but if the moderator sees a problem, if other readers see a prioblem, I'll be happy to use the edit botton to delete the content of all my off-topic posts on this thread if joe is prohibited from furthering his argument on this thread.

[daveklepper]

Now back to the "Electric City," Sc ranton:

Two on with a power plant seen from both directions, passing 501 each time.

Are not the tracks on this bridge actually DL&W, with the sign announcing what is located beyond?

Back downtown on Wyoming Avenue:

And tw on Green Ridge Suburban:

 

 

 

[Joseph Frank]

Hi Dave

 

Great set of current Scranton Photos you just posted.  I liked the one with the Laurel Line overpass and its lighted sign !

 

Well, per your reply, thats quite a bit better info on this Yeshiva issue..  Thanks for that heads-up and I will check it out -- I wonder which one of my contacts is causing this trouble to you.  You must realize it is not coming or caused directly from me.  I will do some research.

I understand your concern now and as you likely are aware, there are countless malevolent hackers who are everywhere worldwide and into everything commercial and residential, public and private. I am going to check with my NYC Transit Modelers Group forum to see if any of my 250 plus forum members have experienced any similar strange events as to what you have.

Photo editing -- my emails to you did NOT accuse at all, but in fact only SUGGESTED that you use someone you know who can do a cleaner job than that of some of your photo editing attempts.  I don't recall offering my services to you but if you asked me I would have done so in friendship.  But with this "Yeshiva" situation - well, perhaps not as such a good idea with the situation.  You stated that you have Rich Allman, whom I long know from EPTC CLUB ,  who does a good photo-editing job for you, and  thats a good start. I was only trying to help you. But readers can see your editing results quite plainly as I did.

PS: A heads up TO YOU also --- on your email friends contact list of which my email address is also seen at top portion upon,  you inserted your email address on the very bottom end of that list, and  quite as very long as its been seen, as typed in and installed by you ---as

" [e-mail] "  Its a BAD ADDRESS, that you typed incorrectly.  It is the same email list of recipients I see when I get your email postings to / via your contacts list --- and that I respond "reply all" to via that same list.  I suggest you correct that yahoo address or remove it and replace with a different one.

Finally, I am using this contact method HERE (forum) solely because you stated your server (Yeshiva) has an issue with emails from me to you.

I agree you and I should put this issue to rest here and now on the forum for the sake of the forum --- but you initiated it with the comments about the "Yeshiva Threat" - and I responded obviously solely to get more details.  Thanks for all the info and thanks for, and continue posting, all those great photos and your historical comments!!!  Regards - Joe F

[Overmod]

anglecock

It's sad to see the New Jersey Central Station sitting vacant and falling apart when it is sitting in the middle of town and would make a great restaurant

Pro Tip: It's either 'Central [Railroad] of New Jersey" or just "Jersey Central".

[pennytrains]

It's probably not either of you Joe and Dave but rather a bad actor far away from anyone either of you know personally that's piggybacking on your data feeds and stealing (hijacking) your intellectual properties.  I can think of several places where this sort of thing is not only tolerated, but outright encouraged.  If you "R"ead between the lines you may "C" what "I" am suggesting.  

[Joseph Frank]

Hi Pennytrains!

Thanks for your support and understanding. Should I think that R C I are the initials of 3 major countries (shown abreviated)  -  ie:  Rus - Chin - Iran -- heh .

Anyway, sorry to see Dave having experienced so much inconvenience over all this stuff. 

If you are not familiar with me,  here is my website of my O-Scale NY City Transit EL, Subway And Trolley Layout and  modeling -- link to here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/44268069@N00/albums

 

Regards - Joe F

[daveklepper]

Thanks Joe and Pennsylvania and everyone else.

Joe:   Rish Allman is probably the best third party for messages to me in the future.  Thers are also Russ Jackson and Jack May.

I will have no problem in writing you directly, simply be immediately deleting the message after it is sent.  I'm told that works OK for safety.

Sorry foir misinterpreting your suggestion as a demand.  But if you read what you sent, you may conclude that you couuld have phrased it just a bit more politely.  Thanks.

[daveklepper]

Another Dunmore Suburban  Line photo:

 

[daveklepper]

And sone work in improving the "Laural Line Bridge" photo: