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New York Gateway tunnels finally gets some serious money

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New York Gateway tunnels finally gets some serious money
Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, July 6, 2023 3:01 PM
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Posted by Overmod on Friday, July 7, 2023 7:47 AM

Who the hell cares?  It's a multibillion replication, with more curves, of the existing somewhat circuitous route to all the congested approach trackage.

It needed to be the original high-speed route curving southwest under the Hudson and the Palisades, whether or not the 'second spine' would include Newark or not.  This is just the same kind of boondoggle as leaving the CAHSR approach to San Francisco essentially at grade and operating around Caltrans.

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, July 8, 2023 9:05 AM

Overmod

 This is just the same kind of boondoggle as leaving the CAHSR approach to San Francisco essentially at grade and operating around Caltrans.

 

 

Oh, I don't know.  It gives San Francisco commuters faster commutes at little to no cost for those commuters or San Francisco.  And they don't have to wait forever (until the tracks hook up to the potential trackage in the California Valley).

I also suspect the cost of moving the existing depot location over to the new one will be at least  partially covered by CHSRA.

The City of San Francisco gets some fine transit improvements at a steep discount, if it is even paying at all.  And FAR ealier than needed by High Speed Rail.

 

That's called "planning".

 

Ed

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, July 8, 2023 10:58 AM

7j43k
 
Overmod

 This is just the same kind of boondoggle as leaving the CAHSR approach to San Francisco essentially at grade and operating around Caltrans. 

Oh, I don't know.  It gives San Francisco commuters faster commutes at little to no cost for those commuters or San Francisco.  And they don't have to wait forever (until the tracks hook up to the potential trackage in the California Valley).

I also suspect the cost of moving the existing depot location over to the new one will be at least  partially covered by CHSRA.

The City of San Francisco gets some fine transit improvements at a steep discount, if it is even paying at all.  And FAR ealier than needed by High Speed Rail. 

That's called "planning".

Ed

Isn't 'plan' a 4 letter bad word for some?  Especially those who intend to recreate the mistakes of the past!

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