Maybe they've been around awhile and I just haven't seen them. Noticed them while in St. Louis on one of the Chicago trains. Taller and boxier than the old Amfleet cars. Have a certain "Lionel" toy like appearance.
Horizon Stock maybe - they are boxier than Amfleets, and marginally taller (~4in). Been around since the late 1980s, also used by SEPTA.Also possibly Siemens Venture stock, also a bit boxy and marginally taller than Amfleet, around the midwest since 2020 I think? (looked again, wiki says 2022)
Siemans Venture Stock is more likely.
i have rode in them on River Runner to visit friend in KC. Now that train goes between Chi and KC with stop in St. Louis, where I live. They can be very cold, the restrooms are nice and large, wider aisles seats are not as comfy and the glass door between coaches are OK. I spent most of my time in cafe car talking to a conductor on that run that I know. Lady who boarded in Chi said they were comfy until she got to St. L and someone must have turned a/c down Glad I had a heavy sweater. I actually like the older coaches better than I do the new ones
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