CNN reporting Biden will use Amtrak. Find it hard to believe. Would expect Harris not to travel same train if it happens. Security ? Oh Boy!!!. It will take a 1000 focal length to take a picture if even that. Only official photos would be able to get close ?
Biden to take train to Washington for inauguration, moving forward to 'not be deterred' by neither violence nor virus - CNNPolitics
Mr. Biden rode his special train through Ohio before the election and now he'll take one to his innauguration. I think it's great to have an Amtrak-friendly, train-riding person become our President. It's also going to be a welcome thing to have a train-friendly Secretary of Transportation.
The Wilmington, Del to Washington D.C. ride on the NEC is about 90 min.
NKP guy Mr. Biden rode his special train through Ohio before the election and now he'll take one to his innauguration. I think it's great to have an Amtrak-friendly, train-riding person become our President. It's also going to be a welcome thing to have a train-friendly Secretary of Transportation.
Definitely. Let's just hope we've seen the last of the Capitol riot/insurrection mobs. Lincoln, Grant and Sherman would have been appalled to see rebel flags desecrating our Capitol.
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charlie hebdoDefinitely. Let's just hope we've seen the last of the Capitol riot/insurrection mobs. Lincoln, Grant and Sherman would have been appalled to see rebel flags desecrating our Capitol.
Thread was basically trains centric until this post.
The thread was discussing the inauguration, which occurs at the recently ransacked Capitol. Totally on topic since plans may need to be changed.
Is the Georgia 300 still available for Presidential use?
A shame the Ferdinand Magellan is on display down in Florida, with all that armour it would be perfect for the security-concious politician!
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SD70Dude Is the Georgia 300 still available for Presidential use? A shame the Ferdinand Magellan is on display down in Florida, with all that armour it would be perfect for the security-concious politician!
Given the state of American politics, every politician better be security-conscious! Unlike our more civilized neighbors to the north, politicians in the U.S. tend to be targets!
Many years ago, when I was a student at Penn State, I took a course in Canadian history. A surprising number of Canadians, including my roommate and best friend, were Penn State students, and they took the course. I don't remember that much about it, but I don't recall any Canadian prime minister or governor general being assassinated.
JPS1 SD70Dude Is the Georgia 300 still available for Presidential use? A shame the Ferdinand Magellan is on display down in Florida, with all that armour it would be perfect for the security-concious politician! Given the state of American politics, every politician better be security-concious! Unlike our more civilized neighbors to the north, we tend to shoot our politicans!
Given the state of American politics, every politician better be security-concious! Unlike our more civilized neighbors to the north, we tend to shoot our politicans!
We prefer to maroon them on ice floes.... ...Polar Bears do love pork!
Although plans may change and the train could be a diversion plans are definitely being made for a train for Biden. Here is preliminary FAA notice.
FEDERAL AVIATION DMINISTRATION (faasafety.gov)
A good train set might be 2 or 3 P-42s towing an electric the several Amfleet-2 coaches then a V-2 diners , 2 lounges, V-2 diner, 2 or 3 V-2 sleepers, 300, and then 10003. 300 for obvious reasons to our knowledgeable posters.
There will be a 4 or 5 car advance train, too, along with lots of military air overhead. Wish I lived closer for photos.
With everything that's been going on, don't expect him to go the way that they are publicizing.
They should rent #90 from the Strasburg Railroad to pull the train. NO-ONE's going to harm a train with a steam engine on the head end! Well, maybe Jesse James would, but he's dead!
Flintlock76 They should rent #90 from the Strasburg Railroad to pull the train. NO-ONE's going to harm a train with a steam engine on the head end!
Flintlock76 They should rent #90 from the Strasburg Railroad to pull the train. NO-ONE's going to harm a train with a steam engine on the head end! Well, maybe Jesse James would, but he's dead!
Let's have a little fun with this, Flintlock.
First preference: Mr. Biden's train is pulled by a fully-restored GG-1, which was made that way in less than a week by the application of old fashioned American know-how and our famous can-do spirit; vintage private cars make up the train.
Second preference: Mr. Biden's train is pulled by NKP 765, making a very grand entrance into Union Station, redolent of the America of when he and many of us here were young, enthusiastic, anything-is-possible kids; vintage private cars comprise the train.
Third preference: Mr. Biden's train is pulled by the best up-to-date equipment Amtrak has.
Which will look to the rest of the 21st century passenger train world as if Mr. Biden is arriving in Washington in a coach drawn by six bay horses with postilions. In other words, once again the world sees what we all know: Even on the NEC, to say nothing of the LD network, we are no longer "the Standard Railroad of the World," as we used to be and ought to be. Myself, I'd like to be proud of our state-of-the-art passenger trains, and I'm willing to pay my taxes to have the government invest in them.
So I wish Amtrak and Mr. Biden a happy and fruitful next four years.
If Amtrak has an operational new Acela trainset or two, that would be my first choice: 21st century equipment as we move forward.
NKP guy Third preference: Mr. Biden's train is pulled by the best up-to-date equipment Amtrak has. Which will look to the rest of the 21st century passenger train world as if Mr. Biden is arriving in Washington in a coach drawn by six bay horses with postilions. In other words, once again the world sees what we all know: Even on the NEC, to say nothing of the LD network, we are no longer "the Standard Railroad of the World," as we used to be and ought to be. Myself, I'd like to be proud of our state-of-the-art passenger trains, and I'm willing to pay my taxes to have the government invest in them. So I wish Amtrak and Mr. Biden a happy and fruitful next four years.
It is amusing to think that in this pandemic world, with the major change at the White House, that one would think the "rest of the world" would give a crap about the kind of train President Elect Biden shows up in.
Do foamers really think regular people care that much about trains?
An "expensive model collector"
n012944Do foamers really think regular people care that much about trains?
Real foamers don't CARE what other people think about trains!
NKP Guy, I LIKE your first two suggestions, but could live with the third.
And no, I don't think the rest of the world gives a flying (ahem) at a rollin' doughnut about what train Joe rides to DC, for a variety of reasons.
I go on record in complete agreement with Flintlock and n012944.
I like the image of Joe riding a new Acela to take the oath at the inauguratiion but not this year. When crazies storm the Capitol, deficate in its halls, steal documents and Pelosi's gavel, kill a Capitol policeman etc. It is not wise to tempt those who would do that, so not this year.
Probably most people don't care what method President Biden uses, but on here one hopes we can still express our opinions without such testy comments. And I agree that it is safer in a potentially dangerous DC to use a helicopter or one of the presidential limos for transportation.
Unless I miss my guess - 45 was never on a train either through his original campaign and for the time he has been in office.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Is there an existing B&O Capitol with E units for power? That's what he should ride!
Shock Control Is there an existing B&O Capitol with E units for power? That's what he should ride!
Not that I'm aware of, but there is Bennett Levin's Pennsy E8's. The downside is they're not set up for PTC and Bennett's not going to spend the money to do so, so they're sidelined for the time being.
There's also an F unit done in classic B&O colors on a tourist 'road in West Virginia who's name escapes me at the moment, but I seriously doubt it's set up for PTC as well, it never leaves home rails.
Yes, I know the steam engines suggested don't have PTC either, but the use of those was only us dreamers fantasizing a bit.
charlie hebdo Probably most people don't care what method President Biden uses, but on here one hopes we can still express our opinions without such testy comments.
Probably most people don't care what method President Biden uses, but on here one hopes we can still express our opinions without such testy comments.
So you hope that you can express your opinion, but someone can't express their opinions on what you said?
n012944 charlie hebdo Probably most people don't care what method President Biden uses, but on here one hopes we can still express our opinions without such testy comments. So you hope that you can express your opinion, but someone can't express their opinions on what you said?
Sure, go ahead as you already have, hopefully minus the vulgarity. I never said you or anyone else could not express their thoughts. Just follow the rules, don't engage in ad hominem attacks and attempt to not put words in others mouths as you also just did with a faux question.
Flintlock76 Yes, I know the steam engines suggested don't have PTC either, but the use of those was only us dreamers fantasizing a bit.
Did they equip 4014 with PTC or did they use a trailing unit?
rdamon Flintlock76 Yes, I know the steam engines suggested don't have PTC either, but the use of those was only us dreamers fantasizing a bit. Did they equip 4014 with PTC or did they use a trailing unit?
As far as I know only the trailing unit had PTC.
I've also heard trailing units referred to as "panic diesels" but that's another story.
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