Amtrak CAT failures

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Amtrak CAT failures
Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, January 11, 2019 10:17 AM

Today at Friday at 1100 .  Amtrak had a failure of their CAT between New Rochell and NYP.  It is not know exactly where as Amtrak has not specificed where.  Probably not the replaced CAT from New Rochelle and Gate where voltage changes from 12. 5 Kv 60 Hz but more likely the 12 Kv 25 Hz on into NYP.  However it does not appear that Sunnyside to NYP is affected ?  The failure  happened sometime before 0900 according to earlier Amtrak blogs.  The following link as of 1100 makes it appear that there is going to be extensive delays north of NYP.  No delays noted for MNRR aroun New Rochelle.

EDIT  Evidently Acela 2150 north bound last train thru at about 0840.

 

SERVICE DISRUPTION: Due to a catenary wire down east of New York (NYP) all service between New Haven and New York will be suspended for a minimum of 4 hours. Crews are working to restore power as quickly as possible. Updates to follow as more information becomes available.

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, January 11, 2019 10:32 AM

Amtrak is starting to flip some trains back to BOS

 

SERVICE DISRUPTION UPDATE: Metro North is cross honoring Amtrak tickets between New York and New Haven.

 

 

UPDATE: An on-time section of Acela 2150 is operating from New Haven (NHV) to Boston (BOS).

 

Edit: guess Amtrak will not bus NYP <> NYG ?

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, January 11, 2019 10:59 AM

Still more problems and changes.

  1. continue: UPDATE SERVICE DISRUPTION: Metro North (located in Grand Central Station) is cross honoring Amtrak tickets between New York and New Haven.

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    UPDATE SERVICE DISRUPTION: The following Trains will terminate: Acela Train 2155 and 2159 at New Haven; Acela Train 2153 at Stamford; Train 95 and 171 at New Haven; Train 141 at New Rochelle. Customers may use Metro North or speak with Customer Service for assistance.

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, January 11, 2019 2:16 PM

CAT restored at about 204 PM

 

UPDATE SERVICE DISRUPTION: Service has been restored between New York (NYP) and New Haven (NHV). Residual delays are to be expected. Westbound Train 83 will operate first followed by Acela 2163, Train 173, Acela 2165. Eastbound: Train 56, 174, Acela 2164, Train 176, Acela 2166.

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, August 12, 2019 11:27 PM

The MNRR replacement of CAT to Constant tension ( Caled auto tension by MNRR ) is not scheduled to be complete until mid 2021 FY,  Source Amtrak 5 year plan  page 24 !

http://nec-commission.com/app/uploads/2019/04/NEC-Capital-Investment-Plan-20-24.pdf 

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 1:57 AM

But the failure was not in MN territory and did not involve their catenary.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:59 AM

daveklepper
But the failure was not in MN territory and did not involve their catenary.

Perhaps then you can explain how there could be a catenary failure on the NEC 'between New Rochelle and NYP'  that is not 'in MN territory'.

Perhaps there is something there I don't see.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 2:04 PM

It's  Metro North cat.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 3:44 PM

The point that concers us is=======  CAT replacement on MNRR to constant tension ( called auto tension by MNRR ) is now scheduled to not finish until 3rd quarter FY 2021.  That is almost 2 years longer than originally planned.  now what is FY  2021 actual dates is unknown here.  What is a worry is that the replacement work closes up to 1 or 2 tracks so along with the Walk bridge work that has 2 tracks closed can really constrain MNRR and Amtrak trains.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 4:02 PM

Amtrak owns New Rochelle to Harold Tower in Woodside, Queens, and the LIRR,  two tracks, and Amtrak, two tracks, Woodside - Penn Sta.  Metro North doew not even operate on those tracks except when exchanging equipment with the fellow Metro Transit LIRR.  There are plans for New Haven line trains to run to :Penn, but at the present time the only users of the Hell Gate Bridge are Amtrak and the freight railroads CSX, CP, and P&W, for interchange with NY&A (LIRR-freight) at Fresh Pond Junction in Queens.

Currently all Metro North trains into Manhattan run only to GCT.

The catenary discussed is Amtrak's.

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 4:12 PM

Ooooops, there is always an exception, and MN did operate over the Hell Gate Btidge with dual-power NJT locos for special trains to and from the stadium in New Jersey, with the cooperation of Amtrak.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 5:11 PM

daveklepper

Amtrak owns New Rochelle to Harold Tower in Woodside, Queens, and the LIRR,  two tracks, and Amtrak, two tracks, Woodside - Penn Sta.  Metro North doew not even operate on those tracks except when exchanging equipment with the fellow Metro Transit LIRR.  There are plans for New Haven line trains to run to :Penn, but at the present time the only users of the Hell Gate Bridge are Amtrak and the freight railroads CSX, CP, and P&W, for interchange with NY&A (LIRR-freight) at Fresh Pond Junction in Queens.

Currently all Metro North trains into Manhattan run only to GCT.

The catenary discussed is Amtrak's.

 

 

Not.  The catenary is New Rochelle to the NY CT border. 

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 8:39 PM

blue streak 1

The MNRR replacement of CAT to Constant tension ( Caled auto tension by MNRR ) is not scheduled to be complete until mid 2021 FY,  Source Amtrak 5 year plan  page 24 !

http://nec-commission.com/app/uploads/2019/04/NEC-Capital-Investment-Plan-20-24.pdf 

 

The OP was about "Amtrak had a failure of their CAT between New Rochell and NYP. ", and then the subject got expanded to the MN line north of New Rochelle.  Other posters seem to be conflating the two.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:05 PM

I see that now.  Blue streak's posts were confusing.  Apologies due Dave.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:44 PM

Penn - N. Rochelle Amtrak with some LIRR Penn - Woodsided.   Woodlawn - N/ Rochelle - NY-CT Boarder, MN.  NY-CT Boarder - New Haven ConnDot  New Haven - Boston Amtrak

GCT - Mt. Vernon East, MN 3rd rail, overlap catenary Woodlawn - Mt. Vernon East 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, February 3, 2020 11:37 PM

Major failure of CAT in hudson river south tunnel.

first notice:

 
 
Amtrak Northeast
 
@AmtrakNECAlerts
 
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SERVICE ADVISORY: Due to rail congestion in the South Tube, expect delays in the New York (NYP) area.

next

 
 
 
Amtrak Northeast
 
@AmtrakNECAlerts
 
UPDATE: Delays continue in the New York (NYP) area due to an earlier disabled commuter train and overhead power issues in the South Tube. We will provide updates as information becomes available.
 
 
Now comes an admission
Amtrak Northeast
 
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UPDATE: Due to ongoing power issues in the South Tube, Trains will reverse and operate through the North Tube. Expect delays. We will provide updates as information becomes available.
 
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Train 187 will be delayed departing New York (NYP) due to residual delays due to earlier overhead power issues and commuter train interference. We will update when more information is available.
As of 2330 problem still slowing service last available blletin
 
 
 
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Train 243 is currently operating approximately 30mins late due to earlier commuter train interference and overhead power issues at New York (NYP).

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:30 AM

NJ trasit still issuing up to 60 minutes delays.

Feb 04, 2020  01:15:03 AM
NEC train #3895, the 12:46 a.m. arrival into Trenton, is up to 75 min. late due to earlier Amtrak overhead wire issues near PSNY.
Feb 03, 2020  11:57:44 PM
2/2: NJ TRANSIT rail tickets/passes are being cross-honored by PATH at Newark Penn, Hoboken and 33rd St., NJ TRANSIT Bus and private carriers.
Feb 03, 2020  11:57:39 PM
1/2: NJ TRANSIT rail service in and out of Penn Station New York is subject to up to 60-minute delays, with residual delays to trains enroute, due to earlier Amtrak overhead wire issues near PSNY.

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:01 PM
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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:21 PM

blue streak 1

One statement in the nj.com article got me - to the effect, with one tunnel shut down traffic is limited to 6 trains per hour.  WTF.  Maybe if you are going both directions on a train for train basis - since it was Rush Hour - everything would fleeted outbound and there would not be the down time of reverseing traffic,

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:37 PM

The exact nature of this power failure is unknown .

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Amtrak Northeast
 
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SERVICE ADVISORY: Due to earlier power issues, trains traveling in the New York (NYP) area may experience delays. Power has been restored. Residual delays may occur.
5:29 PM · Feb 12, 2020·Salesforce - Social Studio
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Feb 12, 2020  08:25:40 PM
Train service in and out of Penn Station New York is operating on or close to schedule with residual delays to trains still en route following an Amtrak overhead wire issue east of New York.

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