Historical questions from 1953

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Historical questions from 1953
Posted by A McIntosh on Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:40 PM

The decision of the NRHS to hold the 2019 convention in Salt Lake City prompted me to seek out answers to some questions. In 1953, the year before I was born, my grandmother rode the train from our home in Summerville, SC near Charleston to visit her brother, my Uncle Harry, a mining engineer living and working in Salt Lake City. She would have boarded the Carolina Special in Summervill on the first leg of the trip. My questions are as follows:

 1. Did the Carolina Special continue through to Chicago from Cincinnatti on New York Central's Big Four? Which station would it have used in Chicago?

 2. From my Grandmother's recollection, she probably rode the Union Pacific train to Salt Lake City. Besides the City of San Francisco, what other trains on the C&NW/UP  were available? I don't have access to an Official Guide of that year. I have thought of re-tracing this route as much as it exists under Amtrak using the Silver Meteor to Capitol Limited to California Zephyr, but I may just end up flying out there, perhaps on Delta.   

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, July 12, 2018 1:31 PM

In February of 1953, there was an eight section five double bedrrom sleeper from Charleston to Chicago that arrived at the Central Station at 3:00 in the afternoon.

If she traveled sleeper, unless she spent the night in Chicago, she could not have taken the California Zephyr, which left the Union Station at 3:30 in the afternoon. If she traveled coach, she had to change in Cincinnati, taking either the Reilly, which gave her an hour and a half in Cincinnati and arrived in Chicago at 1:00, or the Chicago Special which gave her forty minutes more in Cincinnati and arrived in Chicago at 3:00.

The City of Los Angeles left the North Western station at 7:15 in the evening, and arrived in Salt Lake City at 7:10 the next evening, The Gold Coast left, also from the North Western station, at 8:00 in the evening, and arrived in Salt Lake City the second morning. Both trains and the CZ had coaches and a variety of sleeping accommodations.

As it is, unless she took the California Zephyr, you cannot retrace any of her route.

 

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Posted by A McIntosh on Thursday, July 12, 2018 7:03 PM

Deggesty

In February of 1953, there was an eight section five double bedrrom sleeper from Charleston to Chicago that arrived at the Central Station at 3:00 in the afternoon.

If she traveled sleeper, unless she spent the night in Chicago, she could not have taken the California Zephyr, which left the Union Station at 3:30 in the afternoon. If she traveled coach, she had to change in Cincinnati, taking either the Reilly, which gave her an hour and a half in Cincinnati and arrived in Chicago at 1:00, or the Chicago Special which gave her forty minutes more in Cincinnati and arrived in Chicago at 3:00.

The City of Los Angeles left the North Western station at 7:15 in the evening, and arrived in Salt Lake City at 7:10 the next evening, The Gold Coast left, also from the North Western station, at 8:00 in the evening, and arrived in Salt Lake City the second morning. Both trains and the CZ had coaches and a variety of sleeping accommodations.

As it is, unless she took the California Zephyr, you cannot retrace any of her route.

 

 

Thanks for the reply. I believe my Dad would have helped make the travel arrangements and would have insisted that his mother, my grandmother, travel in a Pullman.

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