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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, January 12, 2018 8:31 PM

Overmod, I agree with you. That someone plays with whatever controls are available to him as a passenger is more an indication that he has no sense of responsibility to other people; that he rested the immediate effort to stop him gives an impression that he is somewhat childish, especially since unarmed people were able to subdue him.

I am concerned by the fact that there are people in this country who want to wreak damage on anyone who disagrees with them--but I do not see, from the account, that this man is such.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 12, 2018 6:54 PM

charlie hebdo
The complaints about sourcing seem to be an odd attempt at distraction from the content. Most terrorism in the US is not by aliens.

This is likely true, but in this particular case it is difficult to figure out, except as emergent political expediency, how a nut tinkering with train brakes becomes a 'terrorist'. 

Reminds me a little about a comment, I almost remember the source, that translated "An IRA flying column has been dispatched north" as being "one man in a dirty raincoat has boarded the Enterprise and we pray that gun of his works."  Some "terrorism" is just stupidity; some is just expedient labeling of people and beliefs we don't like.  I doubt a 'real' terrorist, or even a motivated extremist, would have been so easily subdued by 'conductors'.

My complaint about 'sourcing', at least, was based on the original site loading modal restrictions along with the usual shovelware selection of ad cookies and trackers 'without my permission'.  It's not just that I do not, and will not, tolerate spam just to read some newsworker prose; it's that posting a link to such content without warning exposes others, some of whom are probably not fully computer-literate, to the avalanche of opportunistic exploitation.  All when five or six sentences adequately paraphrase what laughable amount of 'news' is actually contained therein.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, January 12, 2018 6:02 PM

Here's a recent example of an unprovoked attack on a policeman by a member of a white supremacist gang:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aryan-nations-gang-member-put-top-10-wanted/story?id=52313521

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, January 12, 2018 11:57 AM

CMStPnP

 

 
Shock Control
How about revealing what the Website is first?

 

It's just another online newspaper weblink like the first.....and both are fairly harmless.   

Reproducing the content or summarizing the content in too much detail is usually a copyright infringement, hence I use links to the original content.

 

 

It was in a local (suburban) newspaper.  

https://patch.com/missouri/stcharles/st-charles-white-supremacist-hijacks-amtrak-train

The complaints about sourcing seem to be an odd attempt at distraction from the content.  Most terrorism in the US is not by aliens.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:48 PM

As one reader, I appreciate the time saved when posters put the information, by one means or another, directly in the posting.  What I usually do is use the copy button with the mouse's blue function to copy into MSword, then copy from MS word into the post.  If I can, depending on whether or not I am at a wideband server and can access imgur, I add the photos as jpgs again using the mouse's blue function and copy to place in one of my pictures files, then imgur to the posting.

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Posted by Shock Control on Friday, January 5, 2018 5:40 PM

CMStPnP

 

 
Shock Control
How about revealing what the Website is first?

 

It's just another online newspaper weblink like the first.....and both are fairly harmless.   

Reproducing the content or summarizing the content in too much detail is usually a copyright infringement, hence I use links to the original content.

I wasn't asking for the latter, but would have been less work for you to paste the link than to type your response.  Some of us have learned the hard way not to click on hyperlinked text.

The only references I saw earlier were the link in the original post and others from Faux News.  

 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, January 5, 2018 3:53 PM

Shock Control
How about revealing what the Website is first?

It's just another online newspaper weblink like the first.....and both are fairly harmless.   

Reproducing the content or summarizing the content in too much detail is usually a copyright infringement, hence I use links to the original content.

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Posted by Shock Control on Friday, January 5, 2018 3:23 PM

petitnj

How about revealing what the Website is first?

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Friday, January 5, 2018 3:04 PM

This is what the article said.

The FBI says an armed 26-year-old Missouri man who breached a secured area to stop an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October has links to a white supremacist group and expressed an interest in "killing black people," according to court documents unsealed Wednesday.

Taylor Michael Wilson, of St. Charles, Missouri, is charged in U.S. District Court in Lincoln with terrorism attacks and other violence against railroad carriers and mass transportation systems.

In an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski said there was probable cause to believe that electronic devices possessed by Wilson and firearms owned by him "have been used for or obtained in anticipation of engaging in or planning to engage in criminal offenses against the United States."

 

Just before 2 a.m. on Oct. 22, an assistant conductor felt the train braking, searched for what was causing it and found Wilson in the engineer's seat of the follow engine "playing with the controls," Czaplewski wrote.

The conductor, and others, subdued Wilson, then held him and waited for deputies from Furnas and Harlan counties to arrive in Oxford, 23 miles southwest of Holdrege, where the eastbound California Zephyr with about 175 people aboard stopped.

No injuries were reported.

Czaplewski said Wilson, who has a permit in Missouri to carry a concealed handgun, had a loaded .38-caliber handgun in his waistband, a speed loader in his pocket and a National Socialist Movement business card on him when he was arrested.

He also had a backpack with three more speed loaders, a box of ammunition, a knife, tin snips, scissors and a ventilation mask inside.

Wilson, who was traveling from Sacramento, California, to St. Louis, later was charged in Furnas County with felony criminal mischief and use of a deadly weapon during the commission of a felony.

His $100,000 bond was posted on Dec. 11 and he was released.

Two days later, according to the federal case, FBI agents searched Wilson's home in Missouri and found a hidden compartment with a handmade shield, as well as: "a tactical vest, 11 AR-15 (rifle) ammunition magazines with approximately 190 rounds of .223 ammunition, one drum-style ammunition magazine for a rifle, firearms tactical accessories (lights), 100 rounds of 9 mm ammunition, approximately 840 rounds of 5.45x39 rifle ammunition, white supremacy documents and paperwork, several additional handgun and rifle magazines, gunpowder, ammunition-reloading supplies, and a pressure plate."

 

Czaplewski said they also found 15 firearms, including a fully-automatic rifle, ammunition and firearms magazines, and a tactical body armor carrier with ceramic ballistic plates.

In the newly unsealed federal case, Czaplewski wrote that investigators had found videos and PDF files on Wilson's phone of a white supremacist banner over a highway, other alt-right postings and documents related to how to kill people.

He said an acquaintance contacted by the FBI said that Wilson had been acting strange since June and had joined an "alt-right" neo-Nazi group that he found while researching white supremacy forums online.

Czaplewski said agents believe Wilson had traveled with members of the group to the Unite the Right rally at Charlottesville, Virginia, in August, where a woman was killed and 19 injured when a man used his vehicle to ram a crowd of counter-protesters.

An informant told the FBI that Wilson has expressed an interest in "killing black people" and others besides whites, and they suspect Wilson was responsible for a road rage incident in April 2016 in St. Charles where a man pointed a gun at a black woman for no apparent reason while driving on Interstate 70, Czaplewski said.

Wilson now is in federal custody. He was arrested Dec. 23, a day after the complaint was filed under seal in federal court in Nebraska.

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Posted by petitnj on Friday, January 5, 2018 2:57 PM
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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 5, 2018 1:15 PM

Summarize the points of the article, please: I won't go to sites that use ransomware or force undetermined ad-content links on my browser.

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Attempted hijacking of California Zephyr
Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, January 5, 2018 12:16 PM

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