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Moorman talks to congress
Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:03 PM

Moorman lays it out in simple ( so congress can understand ) terms.  Note how he pursues North Portal bridge.  If Portal bridge fails or becomes inoperative for some long period of time that effectively shuts down the NEC as even one North river tunnel failure would not. 

Next priority appears to be the B&P new tunnels and Susquehanna river draw bridge which has a lot of openings, is subject to NS freights entering, and MARC train originations giving more 4 MTs .  You still have Bush River and Gunpowder river bridges to complete 4 MTs.   

http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/passenger/intercity/moorman-calls-for-amtrak-investment.html?channel=41

 

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Posted by ORNHOO on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 10:05 PM

Moorman also was interviewed on CNBC today:

 http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000593516&play=1

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Posted by oltmannd on Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:38 PM

$28B over 20 years sounds very doable.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:05 PM

So I would say this is good news and reflects on the advantages of having a former railroad CEO with a lifetime of experience at the helm of the ship with no real interest in the position long-term vs. a tenured government bureaucrat.

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Posted by conrailman on Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:40 PM

Did Wick finally get Congress with they Big Heads on the Hill, The Money that Amtrak needs to everything into a A shape or like last 30 years Big talk with little money every year??

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, February 17, 2017 8:52 AM

One month in and we have no real idea of what the legislative agenda of the new administration will be in so many areas, including tranportation in general and railroads in particular.

The devil of legislation is always in the details, not a 140 character tweet!

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Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, February 17, 2017 1:05 PM

BaltACD

One month in and we have no real idea of what the legislative agenda of the new administration will be in so many areas, including tranportation in general and railroads in particular.

The devil of legislation is always in the details, not a 140 character tweet!

Yes he scrimped on money on staff the last 4-5 months of the campaign
(compared with his opponent that spent lavishly) so they did zero work on policy prior to being elected and then he had to flesh out more of his cabinet picks which he spent a lot of time choosing.    No surprise they are 4-6 months behind.    Although I think he is ahead with heathcare as he is going to borrow heavily from Congress on that.

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Friday, February 17, 2017 1:37 PM

CMStPnP

 

 
BaltACD

One month in and we have no real idea of what the legislative agenda of the new administration will be in so many areas, including tranportation in general and railroads in particular.

The devil of legislation is always in the details, not a 140 character tweet!

 

Yes he scrimped on money on staff the last 4-5 months of the campaign
(compared with his opponent that spent lavishly) so they did zero work on policy prior to being elected and then he had to flesh out more of his cabinet picks which he spent a lot of time choosing.    No surprise they are 4-6 months behind.    Although I think he is ahead with heathcare as he is going to borrow heavily from Congress on that.

 

fortunately or unfortunately spending is in the hands of Congress. They are not  inclined to spend and borrow money for Trump's promise's. This includes infrastructure, Health care, a  21 billion wall or  another moonshot. He can tweet till he is blue in his face, won't happen.

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Posted by wanswheel on Friday, February 17, 2017 3:59 PM

Link to video of the hearing. Moorman is introduced at 43:18.

http://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/hearings?ID=059064F8-8D58-4725-98BC-61CC53DBCB08

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:33 PM

Here is an article that says Moorman's statement is half true.  It compares the population of the US in 1990 to today and number of riders then to today.  It also notes total % of Amtrak riders to total US trips has decreased.  Have to agree with their statements but what is their agenda ?

IMO although they say Moorman is half true they are half true in neglecting the fact of no total additional equipment allocated by Congress in the same time period. 

https://billypenn.com/2017/02/21/whats-missing-from-amtraks-claim-that-we-rely-more-than-ever-on-trains/

 

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Posted by ACY on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 2:03 PM

oltmannd

$28B over 20 years sounds very doable.

 

"Doable", yes. But it is an entirely different question whether this President or this Congress will throw anything but words at the problem. We'll see. 

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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:14 AM

blue streak 1

Here is an article that says Moorman's statement is half true.  It compares the population of the US in 1990 to today and number of riders then to today.  It also notes total % of Amtrak riders to total US trips has decreased.  Have to agree with their statements but what is their agenda ?

IMO although they say Moorman is half true they are half true in neglecting the fact of no total additional equipment allocated by Congress in the same time period. 

https://billypenn.com/2017/02/21/whats-missing-from-amtraks-claim-that-we-rely-more-than-ever-on-trains/

 

 

I do not know what their "agenda" (if any) is. I do see that the stagnation in passenger numbers the last few years has nothing to do with equipment allocated by Congress.  The key stat to support or refute that claim is load factor: "Trains were also emptier than in the previous year, with a 50.9 percent average load in 2016, compared to 51.3 percent in 2015."

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:29 AM

schlimm

 

 
blue streak 1

Here is an article that says Moorman's statement is half true.  It compares the population of the US in 1990 to today and number of riders then to today.  It also notes total % of Amtrak riders to total US trips has decreased.  Have to agree with their statements but what is their agenda ?

IMO although they say Moorman is half true they are half true in neglecting the fact of no total additional equipment allocated by Congress in the same time period. 

https://billypenn.com/2017/02/21/whats-missing-from-amtraks-claim-that-we-rely-more-than-ever-on-trains/

 

 

 

 

I do not know what their "agenda" (if any) is. I do see that the stagnation in passenger numbers the last few years has nothing to do with equipment allocated by Congress.  The key stat to support or refute that claim is load factor: "Trains were also emptier than in the previous year, with a 50.9 percent average load in 2016, compared to 51.3 percent in 2015."

 

I think Amtrak has been hurt some by the decreasing cost of gasoline.  Also the growth of ultra low price bus companies.  Their conclusion is he stated a half truth. Or perhaps he 1/2 way to becoming a politian.

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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:35 AM

ROBERT WILLISON

 

 
schlimm

 

 
blue streak 1

Here is an article that says Moorman's statement is half true.  It compares the population of the US in 1990 to today and number of riders then to today.  It also notes total % of Amtrak riders to total US trips has decreased.  Have to agree with their statements but what is their agenda ?

IMO although they say Moorman is half true they are half true in neglecting the fact of no total additional equipment allocated by Congress in the same time period. 

https://billypenn.com/2017/02/21/whats-missing-from-amtraks-claim-that-we-rely-more-than-ever-on-trains/

 

 

 

 

I do not know what their "agenda" (if any) is. I do see that the stagnation in passenger numbers the last few years has nothing to do with equipment allocated by Congress.  The key stat to support or refute that claim is load factor: "Trains were also emptier than in the previous year, with a 50.9 percent average load in 2016, compared to 51.3 percent in 2015."

 

 

 

I think Amtrak has been hurt some by the decreasing cost of gasoline.  Also the growth of ultra low price bus companies.  Their conclusion is he stated a half truth. Or perhaps he 1/2 way to becoming a politian.

 

 

Such a low load factor has been present for years.  To me, it suggests that Amtrak is running too many empty trains on routes with low demand while straining capacity on others.  Poor equipment allocation by Amtrak.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 5:03 PM

ROBERT WILLISON
I think Amtrak has been hurt some by the decreasing cost of gasoline.  Also the growth of ultra low price bus companies.  Their conclusion is he stated a half truth. Or perhaps he 1/2 way to becoming a politian.

Contrary to popular belief and numerous studies have shown this.   Not a lot of people who travel by LD train would consider the bus and vice versa.     Understood you can't convince all the readers of Trains Magazine Forums of this but it is shown in both NARP and DOT studies that only some of the passengers are transferrable and it is usually well below 50%.    Same goes for intercity.

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:49 PM

CMStPnP

 

 
ROBERT WILLISON
I think Amtrak has been hurt some by the decreasing cost of gasoline.  Also the growth of ultra low price bus companies.  Their conclusion is he stated a half truth. Or perhaps he 1/2 way to becoming a politian.

 

Contrary to popular belief and numerous studies have shown this.   Not a lot of people who travel by LD train would consider the bus and vice versa.     Understood you can't convince all the readers of Trains Magazine Forums of this but it is shown in both NARP and DOT studies that only some of the passengers are transferrable and it is usually well below 50%.    Same goes for intercity.

 

might want to check out company called megabus. A company that offers bus service not only in the US but throughout the world. They operate in many cities with no stations and tickets are bought on their web site. They  offer service between  NYC to Boston for as little as a dollar. They are highly competitive in every market they operate. Many articles have citing them as competing with not only with Amtrak but the legacy bus lines.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, February 24, 2017 3:46 AM

ROBERT WILLISON
might want to check out company called megabus. A company that offers bus service not only in the US but throughout the world. They operate in many cities with no stations and tickets are bought on their web site. They  offer service between  NYC to Boston for as little as a dollar. They are highly competitive in every market they operate. Many articles have citing them as competing with not only with Amtrak but the legacy bus lines.

I stand by what I stated.  Went over this ad nauseum back when I lived in Wisconsin with bus companies opposed to rail expansion.    Megabus is not the first deep discount bus operator in the states and I seriously doubt it has any impact on survey results.

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Friday, February 24, 2017 6:13 AM

CMStPnP
deep discount

CMStPnP

 

 
ROBERT WILLISON
might want to check out company called megabus. A company that offers bus service not only in the US but throughout the world. They operate in many cities with no stations and tickets are bought on their web site. They  offer service between  NYC to Boston for as little as a dollar. They are highly competitive in every market they operate. Many articles have citing them as competing with not only with Amtrak but the legacy bus lines.

 

I stand by what I stated.  Went over this ad nauseum back when I lived in Wisconsin with bus companies opposed to rail expansion.    Megabus is not the first deep discount bus operator in the states and I seriously doubt it has any impact on survey results.

 

 and I stand by my statement. I have family living in the Northeast. They live  in the city, have great jobs. Just like they use uber, they get on their phones, check the prices and hop the bus for Boston for a third less. Times they are a changing.

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, February 24, 2017 7:18 AM

ROBERT WILLISON

 

 
CMStPnP
deep discount

 

 
CMStPnP

 

 
ROBERT WILLISON
might want to check out company called megabus. A company that offers bus service not only in the US but throughout the world. They operate in many cities with no stations and tickets are bought on their web site. They  offer service between  NYC to Boston for as little as a dollar. They are highly competitive in every market they operate. Many articles have citing them as competing with not only with Amtrak but the legacy bus lines.

 

I stand by what I stated.  Went over this ad nauseum back when I lived in Wisconsin with bus companies opposed to rail expansion.    Megabus is not the first deep discount bus operator in the states and I seriously doubt it has any impact on survey results.

 

 

 and I stand by my statement. I have family living in the Northeast. They live  in the city, have great jobs. Just like they use uber, they get on their phones, check the prices and hop the bus for Boston for a third less. Times they are a changing.

 

 

And I'll second Robert.  Folks I know in WI use Megabus from the Twin Cities (it stops in Madison).  And I have seen Megabus arrive and depart at Union Station in Chicago with many passengers, mostly young.  I have no information of number of passengers carried, but they claim 50 million in the 10 years of US operation.

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Friday, February 24, 2017 9:06 AM

schlimm
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if you goggle megabus affect on Amtrak. Thier are articles and studies show how megabus has a affected not only Amtrak, other bus companies and on air lines. Good  reading quite enlightening.

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, February 24, 2017 9:46 AM

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Friday, February 24, 2017 12:45 PM

Hey can't open your last updated.What was thier conclusion s.

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, February 24, 2017 5:33 PM

It should open.  They make many observations, short and long-term outlook and no executive summary.  Here is one: 

1. Years of relatively flat traffic and passenger revenues culminated in targeted cuts by prominent carriers in 2016, but revenues from passenger operations appear on an upward trajectory and are likely to grow around three percent this year. Several factors, including an uptick in the price of fuel, suggest that market forces that have marginalized the growth in bus traffic are subsiding.

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Posted by JPS1 on Friday, February 24, 2017 5:44 PM

ROBERT WILLISON

Hey can't open your last updated.What was thier conclusion s. 

I was able to open the site and download the report.  It is a very interesting read.

I opened it with Chrome.  I also opened it with Firefox and Internet Explorer.  I have the latest version of all three browsers installed on my computer.  Chrome and Firefox opened it immediately; IE took a long time.  

If your only broswer is IE, download Chrome or Firefox.  Everyone should have a least two browsers on their computer. 

Make sure you browser is not blocking the site.  Try turning the pop-up blocker off.

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Friday, February 24, 2017 5:54 PM

Thanks guys won't open on my phone, I'll open tomorrow when I can fire up my puter.

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Posted by JIM COX1 on Monday, February 27, 2017 6:44 PM
I would not bet a plug nickel that you know what you're talking about.
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Posted by JIM COX1 on Monday, February 27, 2017 6:45 PM

ROBERT WILLISON

 

 
CMStPnP

 

 
BaltACD

One month in and we have no real idea of what the legislative agenda of the new administration will be in so many areas, including tranportation in general and railroads in particular.

The devil of legislation is always in the details, not a 140 character tweet!

 

Yes he scrimped on money on staff the last 4-5 months of the campaign
(compared with his opponent that spent lavishly) so they did zero work on policy prior to being elected and then he had to flesh out more of his cabinet picks which he spent a lot of time choosing.    No surprise they are 4-6 months behind.    Although I think he is ahead with heathcare as he is going to borrow heavily from Congress on that.

 

 

 

fortunately or unfortunately spending is in the hands of Congress. They are not  inclined to spend and borrow money for Trump's promise's. This includes infrastructure, Health care, a  21 billion wall or  another moonshot. He can tweet till he is blue in his face, won't happen.

 

 

ROBERT WILLISON

 

 
CMStPnP

 

 
BaltACD

One month in and we have no real idea of what the legislative agenda of the new administration will be in so many areas, including tranportation in general and railroads in particular.

The devil of legislation is always in the details, not a 140 character tweet!

 

Yes he scrimped on money on staff the last 4-5 months of the campaign
(compared with his opponent that spent lavishly) so they did zero work on policy prior to being elected and then he had to flesh out more of his cabinet picks which he spent a lot of time choosing.    No surprise they are 4-6 months behind.    Although I think he is ahead with heathcare as he is going to borrow heavily from Congress on that.

 

 

 

fortunately or unfortunately spending is in the hands of Congress. They are not  inclined to spend and borrow money for Trump's promise's. This includes infrastructure, Health care, a  21 billion wall or  another moonshot. He can tweet till he is blue in his face, won't happen.

 

 

ROBERT WILLISON

 

 
CMStPnP

 

 
BaltACD

One month in and we have no real idea of what the legislative agenda of the new administration will be in so many areas, including tranportation in general and railroads in particular.

The devil of legislation is always in the details, not a 140 character tweet!

 

Yes he scrimped on money on staff the last 4-5 months of the campaign
(compared with his opponent that spent lavishly) so they did zero work on policy prior to being elected and then he had to flesh out more of his cabinet picks which he spent a lot of time choosing.    No surprise they are 4-6 months behind.    Although I think he is ahead with heathcare as he is going to borrow heavily from Congress on that.

 

 

 

fortunately or unfortunately spending is in the hands of Congress. They are not  inclined to spend and borrow money for Trump's promise's. This includes infrastructure, Health care, a  21 billion wall or  another moonshot. He can tweet till he is blue in his face, won't happen.

 

 

ROBERT WILLISON

 

 
CMStPnP

 

 
BaltACD

One month in and we have no real idea of what the legislative agenda of the new administration will be in so many areas, including tranportation in general and railroads in particular.

The devil of legislation is always in the details, not a 140 character tweet!

 

Yes he scrimped on money on staff the last 4-5 months of the campaign
(compared with his opponent that spent lavishly) so they did zero work on policy prior to being elected and then he had to flesh out more of his cabinet picks which he spent a lot of time choosing.    No surprise they are 4-6 months behind.    Although I think he is ahead with heathcare as he is going to borrow heavily from Congress on that.

 

 

 

fortunately or unfortunately spending is in the hands of Congress. They are not  inclined to spend and borrow money for Trump's promise's. This includes infrastructure, Health care, a  21 billion wall or  another moonshot. He can tweet till he is blue in his face, won't happen.

 

 

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, February 27, 2017 9:34 PM

Judging by your bizarre posting style (triplicates?), you are hardly in a postion to insult other posters.

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Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:50 AM

schlimm

 

 
ROBERT WILLISON

 

 
schlimm

 

 
blue streak 1

Here is an article that says Moorman's statement is half true.  It compares the population of the US in 1990 to today and number of riders then to today.  It also notes total % of Amtrak riders to total US trips has decreased.  Have to agree with their statements but what is their agenda ?

IMO although they say Moorman is half true they are half true in neglecting the fact of no total additional equipment allocated by Congress in the same time period. 

https://billypenn.com/2017/02/21/whats-missing-from-amtraks-claim-that-we-rely-more-than-ever-on-trains/

 

 

 

 

I do not know what their "agenda" (if any) is. I do see that the stagnation in passenger numbers the last few years has nothing to do with equipment allocated by Congress.  The key stat to support or refute that claim is load factor: "Trains were also emptier than in the previous year, with a 50.9 percent average load in 2016, compared to 51.3 percent in 2015."

 

 

 

I think Amtrak has been hurt some by the decreasing cost of gasoline.  Also the growth of ultra low price bus companies.  Their conclusion is he stated a half truth. Or perhaps he 1/2 way to becoming a politian.

 

 

 

 

Such a low load factor has been present for years.  To me, it suggests that Amtrak is running too many empty trains on routes with low demand while straining capacity on others.  Poor equipment allocation by Amtrak.

 

Or, poor understanding of elasticity of demand, something Moorman says is Amtrak's top priority.

That is, understanding demand pricing.  Perhaps off-peak pricing needs to be reducued and peak pricing needs to be increased?

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:19 PM

oltmannd
 Or, poor understanding of elasticity of demand, something Moorman says is Amtrak's top priority. That is, understanding demand pricing.  Perhaps off-peak pricing needs to be reducued and peak pricing needs to be increased?

One would have to examine the load factor route by route to make an informed decision.  Demand pricing is not possible on most LD routes since the "service" is only one train/day.

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