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If you think the Acela too wide thing was bad...

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If you think the Acela too wide thing was bad...
Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:00 AM

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Posted by NKP guy on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:27 PM

Yikes!  That's what I call a very expensive mistake!

As Fiorello LaGuardia said, "When I make a mistake, it's a beaut!"

 

 

 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:10 PM

Can it be in this new computerized hi-tech age no-one knows how to use a tape measure anymore?

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:37 PM

That article kinda makes it sound like they are trying to use the locomotive's air compressor to create a vacuum.  No wonder there are leaks and problems, why would anyone be that stupid!??  Do at least a cursory background check before buying new equipment!

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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:27 AM
I'm thinking a whole lot has to go wrong to have this happen. Unqualified political appointee at the top, no equipment specification review process, equipment supplier acting stupid.

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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:29 AM
...and then there's the whole issue of vacuum braking in 21st Century passenger railroading. .

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:37 PM

oltmannd
I'm thinking a whole lot has to go wrong to have this happen. Unqualified political appointee at the top, no equipment specification review process, equipment supplier acting stupid.

Just checked the wrong option box on the order form.  No big deal.

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Posted by Paul Milenkovic on Thursday, April 14, 2016 12:33 PM

oltmannd
...and then there's the whole issue of vacuum braking in 21st Century passenger railroading. .
 

Vacuum brakes are indeed automatic brakes, so are they that much "worse" than the other kinds of non-EP brakes?

Yes, they need much bigger brake cylinders for the same force and they are non-standard and they have failure modes.  But automatic (i.e. Westinghouse) airbrakes are not completely without failure modes either.

Buffer-and-screw couplers are also obsolete, but they are not the safety nightmare of link-and-pin?

If GM "killed the electric car", what am I doing standing next to an EV-1, a half a block from the WSOR tracks?

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Posted by RME on Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:41 PM

Paul Milenkovic
Buffer-and-screw couplers are also obsolete, but they are not the safety nightmare of link-and-pin?

Almost all the 'safety nightmare of link-and-pin' was "macho" railroaders' refusal to use simple lifting sticks to position the link correctly. 

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, April 15, 2016 8:28 AM

RME

 

 
Paul Milenkovic
Buffer-and-screw couplers are also obsolete, but they are not the safety nightmare of link-and-pin?

 

Almost all the 'safety nightmare of link-and-pin' was "macho" railroaders' refusal to use simple lifting sticks to position the link correctly. 

 

I don't have the numbers handy now, but a few years ago this was mentioned on here in relation to the footdragging of the rails in adopting new safety appliances.  The numbers of serious accidents involving coupling (loss of appendages, death) dropped dramatically once the Janney-style coupler was mandated and adopted.

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