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Did Amtrak use steam heat in the 1970s?

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Did Amtrak use steam heat in the 1970s?
Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:24 PM

When it inherited a cornocopia of cars from previose railroads? The EL commuter trains used steam heat in the 1970s up to the discontinutaion of the Erie Commuter Train to Youngstown Ohio

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, March 21, 2016 10:02 AM

Steam heat was the norm on May 1, 1971, with few exceptions.  The first HEP-equipped equipment was leased (later puchased) C&NW long-haul bi-levels with 2 or 3 C&NW F7A's to pull them in about 1973 assigned to various short-haul routes out of Chicago.  The conversion to HEP began about 1975.

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Monday, March 21, 2016 11:58 AM

Yes, but cars were eventually rebuilt with Head-End-Power (electric heat/lighting) supplied by the locomotive.  I'm not sure of the exact date, but I think all old cars were converted or retired by the mid 1980s.  Conversions and new HEP-equipped car orders started in the 70s though, there are multiple photos of the ancient GG1 electric locomotives hauling trains with a generator car to supply HEP to the train (GG1s had a steam generator, but no HEP inverter).

In Canada however, VIA Rail only started HEP conversions in the late 80s, and certain routes used steam-heated equipment until 1997.

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Posted by D.Carleton on Monday, March 21, 2016 12:35 PM

CandOforprogress2

When it inherited a cornocopia of cars from previose railroads? The EL commuter trains used steam heat in the 1970s up to the discontinutaion of the Erie Commuter Train to Youngstown Ohio

The final Amtrak steam heat train is held to be the Silver Star of March 10, 1982. Amtrak was not involved with the operation of the EL/CR commuter trains in Ohio.

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Posted by M636C on Monday, March 21, 2016 6:10 PM

The changeover was well under way by 1977.

I remember travelling on the Eastbound Empire Builder in September 1977 which was steam heated and we had four SDP40F locomotives heading back to La Grange to have their engines and alternators fitted to F40PHR locomotives.

In Spokane WA we passed a Westbound Empire Builder which had two F40PH locomotives and I think an ex-GN steam heating boiler car.

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Monday, March 21, 2016 7:34 PM

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Monday, March 21, 2016 10:54 PM

GG1s used by NJ transit had steam heat as far as I knew. Binghamton NY had a steam plant to keep sleeping cars warm while they waited for their next run so I would assume that GCT and Philly had a steam line to keep Amtrak hertigae car fleet warm overnight

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