Thank you wanswheel! Very interesting architecture.
OK, my curiosity was piqued, so I looked up Miesian architecture.
Well, so THAT'S where Motel 6 got it's look from!
Assuming my little joke was true and Bauhaus killed Mr. Murchison, Miesian would have had him spinning in his grave at 1500 RPM.
Different tastes, and they DO change.
Well, Jacksonville Terminal does resemble Penn Station some.
Tallest building in Wilmington, designed by Kenneth McKenzie Murchison, Jr., who of course was named for his father:
CSSHEGEWISCH Firelock76 Poor guy probably dropped dead when he got his first glimpse of "Bauhaus" architecture. The clean straightforward lines of Miesian architecture have much to be said for them.
Firelock76 Poor guy probably dropped dead when he got his first glimpse of "Bauhaus" architecture.
Poor guy probably dropped dead when he got his first glimpse of "Bauhaus" architecture.
The clean straightforward lines of Miesian architecture have much to be said for them.
I agree. Murchison's designs are mostly pretty clumsy derivative designs, some looking like mix and [not]match.
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Wizlish Deggesty Are you referring to the German schluss ess? That's what it called back when I studied German. I almost spelled it right; not quite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F As it turns out, what the letterform actually represents (as preserved in the name) is a long-S-to-z ligature, not a double S which is what it now usually represents.
Deggesty Are you referring to the German schluss ess? That's what it called back when I studied German.
I almost spelled it right; not quite:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F
As it turns out, what the letterform actually represents (as preserved in the name) is a long-S-to-z ligature, not a double S which is what it now usually represents.
Just saw this, although the poster seems to have departed. I believe the ß and ss are both used in modern texts depending on typeface, pretty much interchangeably, so Strasse or Straße.
Of course, there's nothing for style like the older Fraktur typefaces.
Murchison’s tomb probably should be at his busiest station: LIRR Jamaica
NY Times, Dec. 16, 1938
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DeggestyAre you referring to the German schluss ess? That's what it called back when I studied German.
See the discussion of Heyse near the bottom for what the schluss-s use is.
(Personally I'd love to hear schlimm's and Juniatha's opinions on the finer use of this.)
Wizlish It's the same thing as the mathematical symbol for the integral sign, a long s (think of summation, sigma, with an infinite number of steps...) except that the descender is truncated to make the thing fit in a normal font cabinet. The ligature for double 's' survives in German as the ess-tset (not sure how it's actually spelled) which when you look at it carefully is the long 's' and trailing normal 's' together.
It's the same thing as the mathematical symbol for the integral sign, a long s (think of summation, sigma, with an infinite number of steps...) except that the descender is truncated to make the thing fit in a normal font cabinet.
The ligature for double 's' survives in German as the ess-tset (not sure how it's actually spelled) which when you look at it carefully is the long 's' and trailing normal 's' together.
Johnny
That "s" that looked like an "f" in 18th Century manuscripts was called the "long s" and was used only at the beginning of a word or the middle, but never as the last letter. Use of the same slowly began to end by the end of the 18th Century and was gone by the end of the War of 1812, except by some older folks who couldn't break the habit.
Why'd they use it? That's fomething I've never been able to afcertain. Just the ftyle of the times I fuppofe.
Ah--my memory was not faulty as to the name of the letter "Thorn."
Now, another (off-topic) oddity: in writings earlier than about the middle of the 18th century, the letter "s" when within a word resembled the letter "f"--one not really familiar with the styling has to look closely to see that it has no crossbar; the bar is on one side only of the verticle stroke. When we were readng a portion of Treasure Island in 9th or 10th grade English, at least one of my classmates, when looking at the map of where the treasure was located pronounced "treassure" (sic) as "treaffure."
wanswheel
A note: you may have noticed near the bottom of the piece is "ye year...." The first word began with a letter that we do not use anymore; it looked somewhat like a "y"--but it was a different letter (I have forgotten its name--"thorn," perhaps? which was pronounced as "th." So, "Ye Olde Chemist's Shoppe" is pronounced "The Olde Chemist's Shoppe."
Incidentally, if King George V sent a letter to his cousin Nicholas, Czar of all the Russias, and the mail service was swift enough, Nicky received the letter before it was written, for the Russians, the same as certain other people in the East (who more or less ignored the Pope), still used the Julian Calendar.
This also explains why the October Revolution is/was celebrated in November rather than in October, for the Bolsheviks adopted the Gregorian calendar, yet kept the same day.
I rode one of Ross Rowland's C&O 614 / Jersey Transit steam excursions out of Hoboken Terminal, and spiffy place is just putting it mildly.
I almost swooned considering all the history that place has seen.
NJT used to hold yearly rail festivals there as well, the last one being in (I think) 2003. They don't do them anymore citing expense, which is too bad. I've got a video of one of them and it looks like they threw one hell of a party!
Hoboken terminal is a spiffy place. I took a train out of there to Basking Ridge in October of 1991 and a GG1 was in the yards nearby.
Mr. Murchison certainly had an uncanny resemblance to the General, but for those like me who remember the 80's miniseries, Barry Bostwick IS George Washington!
Thanks for that intersting post Wanswheel!
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